Re: [Sugar-devel] Develop.xo

[Gonzalo Odiard]

You are right Ignacio, we need use json.
Will release a new release soon.

Gonzalo


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Yogesh Maheshwari wrote:

> Yes
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 2:00 AM, Ignacio Rodríguez wrote:
>
>> > Thanks all it started working.
>>
>> How? (just the try .. ?)
>>
>>
>> 2014-02-26 18:30 GMT-02:00 Yogesh Maheshwari :
>>
>> Thanks all it started working.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:48 AM, Ignacio Rodríguez 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Adding Gonzalo as CC

 Gonzalo, why not:

 "try:
 ...import simplejson as json
 except:
 ...import json
 " ?


 2014-02-26 18:15 GMT-02:00 Yogesh Maheshwari :

 Hi,
>
> I can't find link to develop 60, and also the content of my log file
> is similar to above.
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:38 AM, Athar Haque wrote:
>
>> Hi .
>>
>> This is the content of the log file.
>>
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>   File
>> "/home/broot/sugar-build/build/out/install/bin/sugar-activity", line 164,
>> in 
>> main()
>>   File
>> "/home/broot/sugar-build/build/out/install/bin/sugar-activity", line 122,
>> in main
>> module = __import__(module_name)
>>   File
>> "/home/broot/sugar-build/activities/Develop.activity/develop_app.py", 
>> line
>> 19, in 
>> import simplejson
>> ImportError: No module named simplejson
>> Exited with status 1, pid 8676 data (None, ',
>> mode 'w' at 0xac3de90>, 'd874e32e63ee3db381c8dde652188910ae451503')
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:04 AM, Ignacio Rodríguez <
>> nachoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Please attach the log!
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-02-26 15:51 GMT-02:00 Athar Haque :
>>>
>>> Hi ,

 Even I am having the same problem . I tried installing it but was
 unable to run it . On launching the activity from the list view, 
 "Failed to
 start " error came up .

 Can anyone help me with this .


 On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Yogesh Maheshwari <
 yogi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi ,
> I tried installing develop.xo but I am unable to run it in the
> virtual environment.
> The error shown is "Failed to start".
> Could anyone please help me with it.
>
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [b2g] Introducing B2G to x86

[Paul Fox]

james wrote:
 > On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:55:36AM +0100, Christian Stroetmann wrote:
 > > For sure, there is the One Tablet Per Child (OTPC) respectively One
 > > Pad Per Child (OPPC) project by my business division intellitablet
 > > since July 2012 (see [1]).
 > > You are contracted by OLPC? So, please could you take a look and
 > > tell me when the OLPC announced their tablet computer.
 > 
 > No, I do not have access to those records.
 > 
 > Relying only on public record, http://blog.laptop.org/ the multi-child
 > XO Tablet manufactured by Vivitar and OLPC was announced as available
 > for retail sale at Walmart.com on July 16 2013.  There was an
 > announcement before that on January 9 2013 associated with CES.
 > 
 > I don't see how this is relevant to sugar-devel@ mailing list.
 > 
 > > [1] intelliTablet Announcement One Tablet Per Child (OTPC) and One
 > > Pad Per Child (OPPC/OP²C) #1
 > > www.ontomax.com/newsarchive/2012/july.htm#17.July.2012

from the pictures at that link, it seems to be related to the XO-3,
which, while under developmentd for a very long time, was never
released, nor produced in more than prototype quantities.  and, it was a
very different beast than the "XO Tablet" produced by vivitar.  (i
know that james knows this -- i'm just clarifying for others.)

paul


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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [b2g] Introducing B2G to x86

[James Cameron]

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:55:36AM +0100, Christian Stroetmann wrote:
> For sure, there is the One Tablet Per Child (OTPC) respectively One
> Pad Per Child (OPPC) project by my business division intellitablet
> since July 2012 (see [1]).
> You are contracted by OLPC? So, please could you take a look and
> tell me when the OLPC announced their tablet computer.

No, I do not have access to those records.

Relying only on public record, http://blog.laptop.org/ the multi-child
XO Tablet manufactured by Vivitar and OLPC was announced as available
for retail sale at Walmart.com on July 16 2013.  There was an
announcement before that on January 9 2013 associated with CES.

I don't see how this is relevant to sugar-devel@ mailing list.

> [1] intelliTablet Announcement One Tablet Per Child (OTPC) and One
> Pad Per Child (OPPC/OP²C) #1
> www.ontomax.com/newsarchive/2012/july.htm#17.July.2012

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [b2g] Introducing B2G to x86

[Bastien]

Christian Stroetmann  writes:

> For sure, there is the One Tablet Per Child (OTPC) respectively One
> Pad Per Child (OPPC) project by my business division intellitablet
> since July 2012 (see [1]).

A trademark is not just about adding (TM) after a bunch of other
trademarks.

I doubt you officially registered "One Tablet Per Child".

I mean... "One LEGO Laptop Per Child (TM)"... a new trademark with
LEGO within it, seriously?

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [b2g] Introducing B2G to x86

[Christian Stroetmann]

On Thu, 27.02.2014 00:45, James Cameron wrote:


On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:33:05AM +0100, Christian Stroetmann wrote:

On Wed 26.02.2014 23:03, James Cameron wrote:


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:33:52PM +0100, Christian Stroetmann wrote:

On Wed, 26.02.2014 22:30, James Cameron wrote:

On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:02:36PM +0100, Christian Stroetmann wrote:

The One Tablet Per Child (OTPC) project is very well known by the OLPC
headquarter as the XO-1 with touchscreen is.

The XO-1 never had a touchscreen, and I'm not aware of any OTPC project.


Because OLPC simply called it XO-4.

No, it is called XO-4 Touch, and is not a tablet, but a laptop.
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO-4_Touch


Are you the OLPC headquarter?

I am contracted by them and work closely with them, and have for many
years.


Who said that the XO-1 and XO-4 are tablets?

You said "The One Tablet Per Child (OTPC) project is very well known
by the OLPC headquarter as the XO-1 with touchscreen is.".

What you said was wrong to me, because the XO-1 never had a
touchscreen, and also because there is no project "One Tablet Per
Child (OTPC)" at the moment, and when there was such a project (a
pilot in Ethiopia) it did not use XO-1.

For sure, there is the One Tablet Per Child (OTPC) respectively One Pad 
Per Child (OPPC) project by my business division intellitablet since 
July 2012 (see [1]).
You are contracted by OLPC? So, please could you take a look and tell me 
when the OLPC announced their tablet computer.


[1] intelliTablet Announcement One Tablet Per Child (OTPC) and One Pad 
Per Child (OPPC/OP²C) #1 
www.ontomax.com/newsarchive/2012/july.htm#17.July.2012

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [b2g] Introducing B2G to x86

[James Cameron]

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:40:34AM +0100, Christian Stroetmann wrote:
> On Wed, 26.02.2014 22:30, James Cameron wrote:
> 
> >On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:33:52PM +0100, Christian Stroetmann wrote:
> >>On Wed, 26.02.2014 22:30, James Cameron wrote:
> >>>On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:02:36PM +0100, Christian Stroetmann wrote:
> The One Tablet Per Child (OTPC) project is very well known by the OLPC
> headquarter as the XO-1 with touchscreen is.
> >>>The XO-1 never had a touchscreen, and I'm not aware of any OTPC project.
> >>>
> >>Because OLPC simply called it XO-4.
> >No, it is called XO-4 Touch, and is not a tablet, but a laptop.
> >http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO-4_Touch
> >
> >>Are you the OLPC headquarter?
> >I am contracted by them and work closely with them, and have for many
> >years.
> >
> I'm sorry to say, but now I'm totally confused:

Perhaps this is a language barrier.  Can you access a translator?

> On Thu, 27.02.2014 00:01, James Cameron wrote to laptop.org:
> 
> > An Android 4.3.1 (Jelly Bean) build for the XO-4 laptop.
> >
> > OLPC is preparing an Android, Sugar and Gnome dual-boot system for the
> > XO-4.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [b2g] Introducing B2G to x86

[James Cameron]

On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:33:05AM +0100, Christian Stroetmann wrote:
> On Wed 26.02.2014 23:03, James Cameron wrote:
> 
> >On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:33:52PM +0100, Christian Stroetmann wrote:
> >>On Wed, 26.02.2014 22:30, James Cameron wrote:
> >>>On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:02:36PM +0100, Christian Stroetmann wrote:
> The One Tablet Per Child (OTPC) project is very well known by the OLPC
> headquarter as the XO-1 with touchscreen is.
> >>>The XO-1 never had a touchscreen, and I'm not aware of any OTPC project.
> >>>
> >>Because OLPC simply called it XO-4.
> >No, it is called XO-4 Touch, and is not a tablet, but a laptop.
> >http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO-4_Touch
> >
> >>Are you the OLPC headquarter?
> >I am contracted by them and work closely with them, and have for many
> >years.
> >
> Who said that the XO-1 and XO-4 are tablets?

You said "The One Tablet Per Child (OTPC) project is very well known
by the OLPC headquarter as the XO-1 with touchscreen is.".

What you said was wrong to me, because the XO-1 never had a
touchscreen, and also because there is no project "One Tablet Per
Child (OTPC)" at the moment, and when there was such a project (a
pilot in Ethiopia) it did not use XO-1.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [b2g] Introducing B2G to x86

[Christian Stroetmann]

On Wed, 26.02.2014 22:30, James Cameron wrote:


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:33:52PM +0100, Christian Stroetmann wrote:

On Wed, 26.02.2014 22:30, James Cameron wrote:

On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:02:36PM +0100, Christian Stroetmann wrote:

The One Tablet Per Child (OTPC) project is very well known by the OLPC
headquarter as the XO-1 with touchscreen is.

The XO-1 never had a touchscreen, and I'm not aware of any OTPC project.


Because OLPC simply called it XO-4.

No, it is called XO-4 Touch, and is not a tablet, but a laptop.
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO-4_Touch


Are you the OLPC headquarter?

I am contracted by them and work closely with them, and have for many
years.


I'm sorry to say, but now I'm totally confused:

On Thu, 27.02.2014 00:01, James Cameron wrote to laptop.org:


 An Android 4.3.1 (Jelly Bean) build for the XO-4 laptop.

 OLPC is preparing an Android, Sugar and Gnome dual-boot system for the
 XO-4.



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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [b2g] Introducing B2G to x86

[Christian Stroetmann]

On Wed 26.02.2014 23:03, James Cameron wrote:


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:33:52PM +0100, Christian Stroetmann wrote:

On Wed, 26.02.2014 22:30, James Cameron wrote:

On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:02:36PM +0100, Christian Stroetmann wrote:

The One Tablet Per Child (OTPC) project is very well known by the OLPC
headquarter as the XO-1 with touchscreen is.

The XO-1 never had a touchscreen, and I'm not aware of any OTPC project.


Because OLPC simply called it XO-4.

No, it is called XO-4 Touch, and is not a tablet, but a laptop.
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO-4_Touch


Are you the OLPC headquarter?

I am contracted by them and work closely with them, and have for many
years.


Who said that the XO-1 and XO-4 are tablets?

Nevertheless, thanks for the clarifications so that we all can dream on.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [b2g] Introducing B2G to x86

[James Cameron]

On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:33:52PM +0100, Christian Stroetmann wrote:
> On Wed, 26.02.2014 22:30, James Cameron wrote:
> >On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:02:36PM +0100, Christian Stroetmann wrote:
> >>The One Tablet Per Child (OTPC) project is very well known by the OLPC
> >>headquarter as the XO-1 with touchscreen is.
> >The XO-1 never had a touchscreen, and I'm not aware of any OTPC project.
> >
> Because OLPC simply called it XO-4.

No, it is called XO-4 Touch, and is not a tablet, but a laptop.
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO-4_Touch

> Are you the OLPC headquarter?

I am contracted by them and work closely with them, and have for many
years.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [b2g] Introducing B2G to x86

[Christian Stroetmann]

On Wed, 26.02.2014 22:30, James Cameron wrote:

On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:02:36PM +0100, Christian Stroetmann wrote:

The One Tablet Per Child (OTPC) project is very well known by the OLPC
headquarter as the XO-1 with touchscreen is.

The XO-1 never had a touchscreen, and I'm not aware of any OTPC project.


Because OLPC simply called it XO-4.

Are you the OLPC headquarter?
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [b2g] Introducing B2G to x86

[James Cameron]

On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:02:36PM +0100, Christian Stroetmann wrote:
> The One Tablet Per Child (OTPC) project is very well known by the OLPC
> headquarter as the XO-1 with touchscreen is.

The XO-1 never had a touchscreen, and I'm not aware of any OTPC project.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-web can't find web socket port

[Lionel Laské]

Okay. So I've included the 0.0.0.0 test into the pull request [1] that
merge Sugarizer with Sugar Web.
It will be easy to go back to the protocol test when webkit2 version for
the XO will be available.

Lionel.

[1] https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-web/pull/110


2014-02-25 23:14 GMT+01:00 Daniel Narvaez :

> IMO sugarizer and standalone should be both supported modes. Being able to
> just load a single activity in a browser is great.
>
> I think what I suggested in a previous thread was to use a well know local
> storage key to detect that we are inside sugarizer. Open to other
> approaches if anyone has better ideas...
>
> I'm not sure about 0.0.0.0 for webkit1, ideally a local web server would
> normally use standalone mode... But I guess it's fine as a short time hack.
> Hopefully we will get webkit2 on the XO at some point.
>
>
> On Tuesday, 25 February 2014, Lionel Laské  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>  > What means "Standalone" ?
>>>
>>> Standalone means
>>>
>>> http://developer.sugarlabs.org/web-architecture.md.html#web%20activities%20standalone
>>>
>>> Ok. Thanks for the explanation.
>>
>>
>>>  > FYI the method return true because env.getURLScheme() return "http",
>>> so the test condition is false.
>>> > Does it mean that the test condition should not be this ?
>>>
>>> It means you are using WebkitGTK1.  We encourage web development in
>>> WebkitGTK2.  The WK1 is a fallback.
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Any suggestion about this method is welcome.
>>>
>>> I suggest you do web development on sugar-build.  I guess some day XOs
>>> will come with latest Fedora.  We can't rely in old Webkit because it
>>> limits development.
>>
>>
>> Hmm, I'm using the latest build of Sugar 0.100 here [1].
>> Does it means that there is no way to test WK2 on a real XO ?
>>
>> The reason I'm working to merge Sugarizer with Sugar Web is precisely to
>> allow a developer to write web activities for the XO without using
>> sugar-build. Today, because of the WK1 issue and this Standalone test it
>> means that the generated activity will never work on the XO-4 with Sugar
>> 0.100 :-(
>>
>> Except if you think it's a bad idea, my suggestion is to completely
>> remove the "isStandalone" test.
>> In fact, with the new "isSugarizer" test that I'm working on, I think we
>> could consider that Sugarizer supersede the Standalone mode, so the test is
>> not need.
>>
>> Does it make sense for you ?
>>
>>   Lionel.
>>
>>
>> [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.100/Testing
>>
>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [b2g] Introducing B2G to x86

[Christian Stroetmann]

Bonjour Lionel

The status of the project is that for example you can directly put your 
Sugar Web on it, if you have a sound software architecture, or said in 
other words, if you have not used JS libraries that are specific to a 
web browser engine, though in general I have not seen such a library in 
the past.


Also, my first action was to develop this whole concept, inclusive this 
software architecture last year.


I have registered the Sugarfox at Mozilla Firefox OS. Let me simply call 
the issue with the marks as irrelevant here.


The One Tablet Per Child (OTPC) project is very well known by the OLPC 
headquarter as the XO-1 with touchscreen is.




Have fun
Christian Stroetmann



Hi Christian,

2014-02-26 16:33 GMT+01:00 >:



I would like to inform you all about the following points:
1. We have registered our project Sugarfox (TM), publicated on the 9th
of October 2013 ([1]), at Mozilla Firefox OS and its related
marketplace
with the creation of a partner account for our company with the
following short description:

Sugarfox brings the learning environment Sugar in its web version
based
on HTML and JS together with the Firefox OS.


Interesting. But what is exactly the status of this project ?
I'm very surprised that your first action was to register "Sugarfox" 
like you apparently registered hundred of others marks [1] like... 
"One tablet per child" :-)


   Lionel.


[1] http://www.ontomax.com/about/disclaimer.htm


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Re: [Sugar-devel] Develop.xo

[Yogesh Maheshwari]

Yes



On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 2:00 AM, Ignacio Rodríguez wrote:

> > Thanks all it started working.
>
> How? (just the try .. ?)
>
>
> 2014-02-26 18:30 GMT-02:00 Yogesh Maheshwari :
>
> Thanks all it started working.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:48 AM, Ignacio Rodríguez 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Adding Gonzalo as CC
>>>
>>> Gonzalo, why not:
>>>
>>> "try:
>>> ...import simplejson as json
>>> except:
>>> ...import json
>>> " ?
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-02-26 18:15 GMT-02:00 Yogesh Maheshwari :
>>>
>>> Hi,

 I can't find link to develop 60, and also the content of my log file is
 similar to above.


 On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:38 AM, Athar Haque wrote:

> Hi .
>
> This is the content of the log file.
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/home/broot/sugar-build/build/out/install/bin/sugar-activity",
> line 164, in 
> main()
>   File "/home/broot/sugar-build/build/out/install/bin/sugar-activity",
> line 122, in main
> module = __import__(module_name)
>   File
> "/home/broot/sugar-build/activities/Develop.activity/develop_app.py", line
> 19, in 
> import simplejson
> ImportError: No module named simplejson
> Exited with status 1, pid 8676 data (None, ', mode
> 'w' at 0xac3de90>, 'd874e32e63ee3db381c8dde652188910ae451503')
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:04 AM, Ignacio Rodríguez <
> nachoe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Please attach the log!
>>
>>
>> 2014-02-26 15:51 GMT-02:00 Athar Haque :
>>
>> Hi ,
>>>
>>> Even I am having the same problem . I tried installing it but was
>>> unable to run it . On launching the activity from the list view, 
>>> "Failed to
>>> start " error came up .
>>>
>>> Can anyone help me with this .
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Yogesh Maheshwari <
>>> yogi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hi ,
 I tried installing develop.xo but I am unable to run it in the
 virtual environment.
 The error shown is "Failed to start".
 Could anyone please help me with it.



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Re: [Sugar-devel] Develop.xo

[Ignacio Rodríguez]

> Thanks all it started working.

How? (just the try .. ?)


2014-02-26 18:30 GMT-02:00 Yogesh Maheshwari :

> Thanks all it started working.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:48 AM, Ignacio Rodríguez wrote:
>
>> Adding Gonzalo as CC
>>
>> Gonzalo, why not:
>>
>> "try:
>> ...import simplejson as json
>> except:
>> ...import json
>> " ?
>>
>>
>> 2014-02-26 18:15 GMT-02:00 Yogesh Maheshwari :
>>
>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I can't find link to develop 60, and also the content of my log file is
>>> similar to above.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:38 AM, Athar Haque wrote:
>>>
 Hi .

 This is the content of the log file.

 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/home/broot/sugar-build/build/out/install/bin/sugar-activity",
 line 164, in 
 main()
   File "/home/broot/sugar-build/build/out/install/bin/sugar-activity",
 line 122, in main
 module = __import__(module_name)
   File
 "/home/broot/sugar-build/activities/Develop.activity/develop_app.py", line
 19, in 
 import simplejson
 ImportError: No module named simplejson
 Exited with status 1, pid 8676 data (None, ', mode
 'w' at 0xac3de90>, 'd874e32e63ee3db381c8dde652188910ae451503')



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 nachoe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Please attach the log!
>
>
> 2014-02-26 15:51 GMT-02:00 Athar Haque :
>
> Hi ,
>>
>> Even I am having the same problem . I tried installing it but was
>> unable to run it . On launching the activity from the list view, "Failed 
>> to
>> start " error came up .
>>
>> Can anyone help me with this .
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Yogesh Maheshwari <
>> yogi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi ,
>>> I tried installing develop.xo but I am unable to run it in the
>>> virtual environment.
>>> The error shown is "Failed to start".
>>> Could anyone please help me with it.
>>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Develop.xo

[Yogesh Maheshwari]

Thanks all it started working.



On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:48 AM, Ignacio Rodríguez wrote:

> Adding Gonzalo as CC
>
> Gonzalo, why not:
>
> "try:
> ...import simplejson as json
> except:
> ...import json
> " ?
>
>
> 2014-02-26 18:15 GMT-02:00 Yogesh Maheshwari :
>
> Hi,
>>
>> I can't find link to develop 60, and also the content of my log file is
>> similar to above.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:38 AM, Athar Haque  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi .
>>>
>>> This is the content of the log file.
>>>
>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>   File "/home/broot/sugar-build/build/out/install/bin/sugar-activity",
>>> line 164, in 
>>> main()
>>>   File "/home/broot/sugar-build/build/out/install/bin/sugar-activity",
>>> line 122, in main
>>> module = __import__(module_name)
>>>   File
>>> "/home/broot/sugar-build/activities/Develop.activity/develop_app.py", line
>>> 19, in 
>>> import simplejson
>>> ImportError: No module named simplejson
>>> Exited with status 1, pid 8676 data (None, ', mode
>>> 'w' at 0xac3de90>, 'd874e32e63ee3db381c8dde652188910ae451503')
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:04 AM, Ignacio Rodríguez >> > wrote:
>>>
 Please attach the log!


 2014-02-26 15:51 GMT-02:00 Athar Haque :

 Hi ,
>
> Even I am having the same problem . I tried installing it but was
> unable to run it . On launching the activity from the list view, "Failed 
> to
> start " error came up .
>
> Can anyone help me with this .
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Yogesh Maheshwari  > wrote:
>
>> Hi ,
>> I tried installing develop.xo but I am unable to run it in the
>> virtual environment.
>> The error shown is "Failed to start".
>> Could anyone please help me with it.
>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [b2g] Introducing B2G to x86

[Lionel Laské]

Hi Christian,

2014-02-26 16:33 GMT+01:00 :
>
>
> I would like to inform you all about the following points:
> 1. We have registered our project Sugarfox (TM), publicated on the 9th
> of October 2013 ([1]), at Mozilla Firefox OS and its related marketplace
> with the creation of a partner account for our company with the
> following short description:
>
> Sugarfox brings the learning environment Sugar in its web version based
> on HTML and JS together with the Firefox OS.
>
>
Interesting. But what is exactly the status of this project ?
I'm very surprised that your first action was to register "Sugarfox" like
you apparently registered hundred of others marks [1] like... "One tablet
per child" :-)

   Lionel.


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Re: [Sugar-devel] Develop.xo

[Ignacio Rodríguez]

Adding Gonzalo as CC

Gonzalo, why not:

"try:
...import simplejson as json
except:
...import json
" ?


2014-02-26 18:15 GMT-02:00 Yogesh Maheshwari :

> Hi,
>
> I can't find link to develop 60, and also the content of my log file is
> similar to above.
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:38 AM, Athar Haque  wrote:
>
>> Hi .
>>
>> This is the content of the log file.
>>
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>   File "/home/broot/sugar-build/build/out/install/bin/sugar-activity",
>> line 164, in 
>> main()
>>   File "/home/broot/sugar-build/build/out/install/bin/sugar-activity",
>> line 122, in main
>> module = __import__(module_name)
>>   File
>> "/home/broot/sugar-build/activities/Develop.activity/develop_app.py", line
>> 19, in 
>> import simplejson
>> ImportError: No module named simplejson
>> Exited with status 1, pid 8676 data (None, ', mode
>> 'w' at 0xac3de90>, 'd874e32e63ee3db381c8dde652188910ae451503')
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:04 AM, Ignacio Rodríguez 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Please attach the log!
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-02-26 15:51 GMT-02:00 Athar Haque :
>>>
>>> Hi ,

 Even I am having the same problem . I tried installing it but was
 unable to run it . On launching the activity from the list view, "Failed to
 start " error came up .

 Can anyone help me with this .


 On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Yogesh Maheshwari 
 wrote:

> Hi ,
> I tried installing develop.xo but I am unable to run it in the virtual
> environment.
> The error shown is "Failed to start".
> Could anyone please help me with it.
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Develop.xo

[Yogesh Maheshwari]

Hi,

I can't find link to develop 60, and also the content of my log file is
similar to above.


On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:38 AM, Athar Haque  wrote:

> Hi .
>
> This is the content of the log file.
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/home/broot/sugar-build/build/out/install/bin/sugar-activity",
> line 164, in 
> main()
>   File "/home/broot/sugar-build/build/out/install/bin/sugar-activity",
> line 122, in main
> module = __import__(module_name)
>   File
> "/home/broot/sugar-build/activities/Develop.activity/develop_app.py", line
> 19, in 
> import simplejson
> ImportError: No module named simplejson
> Exited with status 1, pid 8676 data (None, ', mode 'w'
> at 0xac3de90>, 'd874e32e63ee3db381c8dde652188910ae451503')
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:04 AM, Ignacio Rodríguez 
> wrote:
>
>> Please attach the log!
>>
>>
>> 2014-02-26 15:51 GMT-02:00 Athar Haque :
>>
>> Hi ,
>>>
>>> Even I am having the same problem . I tried installing it but was unable
>>> to run it . On launching the activity from the list view, "Failed to start
>>> " error came up .
>>>
>>> Can anyone help me with this .
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Yogesh Maheshwari 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi ,
 I tried installing develop.xo but I am unable to run it in the virtual
 environment.
 The error shown is "Failed to start".
 Could anyone please help me with it.



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Re: [Sugar-devel] Develop.xo

[Athar Haque]

Hi .

This is the content of the log file.

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/home/broot/sugar-build/build/out/install/bin/sugar-activity", line
164, in 
main()
  File "/home/broot/sugar-build/build/out/install/bin/sugar-activity", line
122, in main
module = __import__(module_name)
  File
"/home/broot/sugar-build/activities/Develop.activity/develop_app.py", line
19, in 
import simplejson
ImportError: No module named simplejson
Exited with status 1, pid 8676 data (None, ', mode 'w'
at 0xac3de90>, 'd874e32e63ee3db381c8dde652188910ae451503')



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> Please attach the log!
>
>
> 2014-02-26 15:51 GMT-02:00 Athar Haque :
>
> Hi ,
>>
>> Even I am having the same problem . I tried installing it but was unable
>> to run it . On launching the activity from the list view, "Failed to start
>> " error came up .
>>
>> Can anyone help me with this .
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Yogesh Maheshwari wrote:
>>
>>> Hi ,
>>> I tried installing develop.xo but I am unable to run it in the virtual
>>> environment.
>>> The error shown is "Failed to start".
>>> Could anyone please help me with it.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Develop.xo

[Sam Parkinson]

Also make sure you are running develop 60 or newer (from
activities.sugarlabs.org) since that doesn't seem to crash on newer
environs.
On Feb 27, 2014 5:34 AM, "Ignacio Rodríguez"  wrote:

> Please attach the log!
>
>
> 2014-02-26 15:51 GMT-02:00 Athar Haque :
>
>> Hi ,
>>
>> Even I am having the same problem . I tried installing it but was unable
>> to run it . On launching the activity from the list view, "Failed to start
>> " error came up .
>>
>> Can anyone help me with this .
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Yogesh Maheshwari wrote:
>>
>>> Hi ,
>>> I tried installing develop.xo but I am unable to run it in the virtual
>>> environment.
>>> The error shown is "Failed to start".
>>> Could anyone please help me with it.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Develop.xo

[Ignacio Rodríguez]

Please attach the log!


2014-02-26 15:51 GMT-02:00 Athar Haque :

> Hi ,
>
> Even I am having the same problem . I tried installing it but was unable
> to run it . On launching the activity from the list view, "Failed to start
> " error came up .
>
> Can anyone help me with this .
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Yogesh Maheshwari wrote:
>
>> Hi ,
>> I tried installing develop.xo but I am unable to run it in the virtual
>> environment.
>> The error shown is "Failed to start".
>> Could anyone please help me with it.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Develop.xo

[Athar Haque]

Hi ,

Even I am having the same problem . I tried installing it but was unable to
run it . On launching the activity from the list view, "Failed to start "
error came up .

Can anyone help me with this .


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> Hi ,
> I tried installing develop.xo but I am unable to run it in the virtual
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Develop.xo

[Yogesh Maheshwari]

Hi ,
I tried installing develop.xo but I am unable to run it in the virtual
environment.
The error shown is "Failed to start".
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Re: [Sugar-devel] HTML 5 chapters for "Make Your Own Sugar Activities!"

[James Simmons]

Sai,

I agree with you that the Booki software in FLOSS Manuals isn't all it
could be. It's caused me a lot of frustration too. The good thing about it
is that it gives you a way to work in a Wiki where the content isn't
automatically published to the whole world. The public website is generated
from the Wiki as static pages. You only publish when the content is ready
to publish. You can also create PDFs in the sizes needed for book
publishing, plus EPUBs for e-books (which can be easily converted to Kindle
books). That is the brilliant thing about it. The page editing lacks a lot.
It is just as bad today as it was two years ago.

I use Open Office to create my published books other than my two FLOSS
Manuals. If you don't need to collaborate on the web it works very well.

I'm willing to deal with FM if somebody else creates the content. You can
paste HTML from other sources into FM if it is simple HTML without styles,
font tags, etc. I wrote a utility in Python using Beautiful Soup which
takes the HTML generated by a word processor and strips out the extra junk.
I use it to create e-books from Open Office documents.

As for a whole book on HTML 5 Activities, that might be a good idea but
what I had in mind was something on how to take an HTML 5 application and
put a Sugar Activity wrapper around it that can save and restore with the
Journal, maybe do some collaboration, etc. In MYOSA I have a chapter on
PyGame which doesn't actually teach you to use PyGame, but instead shows
you how to take a PyGame application and put an Activity wrapper around it
using sugargame. There are other good resources for learning PyGame and
HTML 5.

It sounds like we may have a Sugar specific HTML 5 library being developed
and that would be out of scope, other than pointing the reader to
information about it.

James Simmons



On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Sai Vineet  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Yes we need a Web Activity chapter. But a whole book would be probably
> nicer, since the whole method of development changes in Web Activities. Do
> we have docs for sugar-web? I haven't found any ... I think we should make
> a new book on Web Activities.
>
> Also I would like to say that editing books on FLOSS manuals is a pain. I
> tried doing it during GCI, but it didn't work in Chrome, and worked
> sometimes in Firefox but mostly not. I think that may be the reason for
> people not contributing much. It would be better if it's shifted somewhere
> else, maybe something like developer.sugarlabs.org?
>
> Regards,
> Vineet.
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:15 PM, James Simmons wrote:
>
>> During the 2012 Google code-in Lionel wrote a nice chapter for MYOSA on
>> making Activities using HTML 5 and WebKit. I have been slowly and steadily
>> updating the other chapters in the book to use Sugar 3 and GTK 3. I have
>> not updated the website with the latest changes because I don't want the
>> book to be in a half-done state, but I have been making steady progress.
>>
>> One thing I have noticed from lurking on this mailing list is that HTML 5
>> and Sugar have made a lot of progress since that chapter was written. I get
>> the impression that what is written there may already be obsolete. I also
>> feel that I'm not the guy who can fix that. I did a fair amount of Activity
>> development before writing MYOSA but I've drifted away from it since then.
>>
>> I believe that HTML 5 is going to be a big deal for Sugar and that MYOSA
>> needs to have some new or updated chapters to reflect that. I am hoping
>> that some of you might contribute this content.
>>
>> As for my own updates, some of them might be published in a couple of
>> weeks.
>>
>
> Nice!
>
>
>> Working on this book has been a rewarding experience for me. I consider
>> it part of my own Constructionist education. Since finishing it I have been
>> involved in writing or publishing many other books. I have transcribed
>> books for Project Gutenberg and Project Gutenberg Canada. I have scanned a
>> bunch of books for the Internet Archive, using a scanner I designed and
>> built myself. I updated a memoir of my days among the Hare Krishnas that
>> had been on a shelf for 30 years and published it, getting five star
>> reviews on Amazon. I have formatted for publishing a twelve volume
>> illustrated English edition of *The Mahabharata*, the great epic of
>> India. I have written a science fiction novel and am working on a second
>> one.
>>
>> I am not suggesting that contributing HTML 5 chapters to this book will
>> change your life. However, it definitely changed mine.
>>
>> James Simmons
>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] HTML 5 chapters for "Make Your Own Sugar Activities!"

[Manuel Quiñones]

Maybe a nice task for GSOC?

2014-02-26 13:45 GMT-03:00 James Simmons :
> During the 2012 Google code-in Lionel wrote a nice chapter for MYOSA on
> making Activities using HTML 5 and WebKit. I have been slowly and steadily
> updating the other chapters in the book to use Sugar 3 and GTK 3. I have not
> updated the website with the latest changes because I don't want the book to
> be in a half-done state, but I have been making steady progress.
>
> One thing I have noticed from lurking on this mailing list is that HTML 5
> and Sugar have made a lot of progress since that chapter was written. I get
> the impression that what is written there may already be obsolete. I also
> feel that I'm not the guy who can fix that. I did a fair amount of Activity
> development before writing MYOSA but I've drifted away from it since then.
>
> I believe that HTML 5 is going to be a big deal for Sugar and that MYOSA
> needs to have some new or updated chapters to reflect that. I am hoping that
> some of you might contribute this content.
>
> As for my own updates, some of them might be published in a couple of weeks.
>
> Working on this book has been a rewarding experience for me. I consider it
> part of my own Constructionist education. Since finishing it I have been
> involved in writing or publishing many other books. I have transcribed books
> for Project Gutenberg and Project Gutenberg Canada. I have scanned a bunch
> of books for the Internet Archive, using a scanner I designed and built
> myself. I updated a memoir of my days among the Hare Krishnas that had been
> on a shelf for 30 years and published it, getting five star reviews on
> Amazon. I have formatted for publishing a twelve volume illustrated English
> edition of The Mahabharata, the great epic of India. I have written a
> science fiction novel and am working on a second one.
>
> I am not suggesting that contributing HTML 5 chapters to this book will
> change your life. However, it definitely changed mine.
>
> James Simmons
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] HTML 5 chapters for "Make Your Own Sugar Activities!"

[Sai Vineet]

Hi,

Yes we need a Web Activity chapter. But a whole book would be probably
nicer, since the whole method of development changes in Web Activities. Do
we have docs for sugar-web? I haven't found any ... I think we should make
a new book on Web Activities.

Also I would like to say that editing books on FLOSS manuals is a pain. I
tried doing it during GCI, but it didn't work in Chrome, and worked
sometimes in Firefox but mostly not. I think that may be the reason for
people not contributing much. It would be better if it's shifted somewhere
else, maybe something like developer.sugarlabs.org?

Regards,
Vineet.


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:15 PM, James Simmons  wrote:

> During the 2012 Google code-in Lionel wrote a nice chapter for MYOSA on
> making Activities using HTML 5 and WebKit. I have been slowly and steadily
> updating the other chapters in the book to use Sugar 3 and GTK 3. I have
> not updated the website with the latest changes because I don't want the
> book to be in a half-done state, but I have been making steady progress.
>
> One thing I have noticed from lurking on this mailing list is that HTML 5
> and Sugar have made a lot of progress since that chapter was written. I get
> the impression that what is written there may already be obsolete. I also
> feel that I'm not the guy who can fix that. I did a fair amount of Activity
> development before writing MYOSA but I've drifted away from it since then.
>
> I believe that HTML 5 is going to be a big deal for Sugar and that MYOSA
> needs to have some new or updated chapters to reflect that. I am hoping
> that some of you might contribute this content.
>
> As for my own updates, some of them might be published in a couple of
> weeks.
>

Nice!


> Working on this book has been a rewarding experience for me. I consider it
> part of my own Constructionist education. Since finishing it I have been
> involved in writing or publishing many other books. I have transcribed
> books for Project Gutenberg and Project Gutenberg Canada. I have scanned a
> bunch of books for the Internet Archive, using a scanner I designed and
> built myself. I updated a memoir of my days among the Hare Krishnas that
> had been on a shelf for 30 years and published it, getting five star
> reviews on Amazon. I have formatted for publishing a twelve volume
> illustrated English edition of *The Mahabharata*, the great epic of
> India. I have written a science fiction novel and am working on a second
> one.
>
> I am not suggesting that contributing HTML 5 chapters to this book will
> change your life. However, it definitely changed mine.
>
> James Simmons
>
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[Sugar-devel] HTML 5 chapters for "Make Your Own Sugar Activities!"

[James Simmons]

During the 2012 Google code-in Lionel wrote a nice chapter for MYOSA on
making Activities using HTML 5 and WebKit. I have been slowly and steadily
updating the other chapters in the book to use Sugar 3 and GTK 3. I have
not updated the website with the latest changes because I don't want the
book to be in a half-done state, but I have been making steady progress.

One thing I have noticed from lurking on this mailing list is that HTML 5
and Sugar have made a lot of progress since that chapter was written. I get
the impression that what is written there may already be obsolete. I also
feel that I'm not the guy who can fix that. I did a fair amount of Activity
development before writing MYOSA but I've drifted away from it since then.

I believe that HTML 5 is going to be a big deal for Sugar and that MYOSA
needs to have some new or updated chapters to reflect that. I am hoping
that some of you might contribute this content.

As for my own updates, some of them might be published in a couple of weeks.

Working on this book has been a rewarding experience for me. I consider it
part of my own Constructionist education. Since finishing it I have been
involved in writing or publishing many other books. I have transcribed
books for Project Gutenberg and Project Gutenberg Canada. I have scanned a
bunch of books for the Internet Archive, using a scanner I designed and
built myself. I updated a memoir of my days among the Hare Krishnas that
had been on a shelf for 30 years and published it, getting five star
reviews on Amazon. I have formatted for publishing a twelve volume
illustrated English edition of *The Mahabharata*, the great epic of India.
I have written a science fiction novel and am working on a second one.

I am not suggesting that contributing HTML 5 chapters to this book will
change your life. However, it definitely changed mine.

James Simmons
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [b2g] Introducing B2G to x86

[Christian Stroetmann]

A little correction:

Boot to Web (B2W)
Boot to WebKit (B2WK)

Sorry for the confusion.



Best regards
Christian Stroetmann

Aloha

I would like to inform you all about the following points:
1. We have registered our project Sugarfox (TM), publicated on the 9th 
of October 2013 ([1]), at Mozilla Firefox OS and its related 
marketplace with the creation of a partner account for our company 
with the following short description:


Sugarfox brings the learning environment Sugar in its web version 
based on HTML and JS together with the Firefox OS.


2. To port Boot to Gecko (B2G) respectively Firefox OS on X86 was 
already started around the year 2012 by some Mozilla supporters 
(actually looking for the old informations led to [2]).
3. Because you are developing Sugar Web Activities on the web browser 
(rendering) engine WebKit, it might be better to take our other 
proposed project Boot to WebKit (B2W; [3]) for a fully HTML, CSS and 
JavaScript based Sugar, though this should not be needed at all due to 
the interoperability of the applied web technologies.


Personally and honestly, I am not very interested in programming for 
Sugarfox, because of another related project that is the updated 
respectively extended version of B2W now called Boot to WebCore, which 
should get our C++Core based on the Cling C/C++ interpreter besides 
the still optionally available JavaScriptCore. For sure, this could 
become another option for the Sugar learning environment. 
Nevertheless, you can ask me everything related with software 
technology, software architecture and so on.




Have fun
Christian Stroetmann

[1] www.ontomax.com/newsarchive/2013/october.htm#09.October.2013
[2] Hacking Gaia 
developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox_OS/Platform/Gaia/Hacking
[3] Boot to WebKit and Boot to WebCore 
www.ontonics.com/innovation/pipeline.htm#boottowebkit


This is a very interesting development as a possible base 
platform for a future fully html based Sugar. B2G always felt like 
the perfect platform for it, if not because it wouldn't (fully) work 
on a normal Linux distro.


-- Forwarded message --
From: *Hugh Tay* mailto:h...@hadronization.com>>
Date: Tuesday, 25 February 2014
Subject: [b2g] Introducing B2G to x86
To: dev-...@lists.mozilla.org 


Hello everyone,


I would like to initiate a new open-source community project to port 
FireFox OS to the Intel/AMD x86-64 platform.


I'm thinking along the lines of the port for RasPi that Oleg Romashin 
developed - executing Gecko on top of a vanilla Linux kernel with 
only the essential drivers/libraries loaded.


Supposedly this method would let us run FF-OS on an x86 PC like other 
Linux distros; e.g. Ubuntu, Fedora; just that its UI would be Gecko 
instead of KDE or Gnome.


This way we should also be able to reduce our dependence on Android 
as the backbone of FireFox OS.


Perhaps further down the line we could also take advantage of UEFI 
booting and B2G in < 10 seconds?


Would anyone be interested in contributing to this effort?

Looking forward to an exciting time ahead!


Hugh
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [b2g] Introducing B2G to x86

[Christian Stroetmann]

Am 26.02.2014 16:30, schrieb Christian Stroetmann:

Aloha

I would like to inform you all about the following points:
1. We have registered our project Sugarfox (TM), publicated on the 9th 
of October 2013 ([1]), at Mozilla Firefox OS and its related 
marketplace with the creation of a partner account for our company 
with the following short description:


Sugarfox brings the learning environment Sugar in its web version 
based on HTML and JS together with the Firefox OS.


2. To port Boot to Gecko (B2G) respectively Firefox OS on X86 was 
already started around the year 2012 by some Mozilla supporters 
(actually looking for the old informations led to [2]).
3. Because you are developing Sugar Web Activities on the web browser 
(rendering) engine WebKit, it might be better to take our other 
proposed project Boot to WebKit (B2W; [3]) for a fully HTML, CSS and 
JavaScript based Sugar, though this should not be needed at all due to 
the interoperability of the applied web technologies.


Personally and honestly, I am not very interested in programming for 
Sugarfox, because of another related project that is the updated 
respectively extended version of B2W now called Boot to WebCore, which 
should get our C++Core based on the Cling C/C++ interpreter besides 
the still optionally available JavaScriptCore. For sure, this could 
become another option for the Sugar learning environment. 
Nevertheless, you can ask me everything related with software 
technology, software architecture and so on.




Have fun
Christian Stroetmann

[1] www.ontomax.com/newsarchive/2013/october.htm#09.October.2013
[2] Hacking Gaia 
developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox_OS/Platform/Gaia/Hacking
[3] Boot to WebKit and Boot to WebCore 
www.ontonics.com/innovation/pipeline.htm#boottowebkit


This is a very interesting development as a possible base 
platform for a future fully html based Sugar. B2G always felt like 
the perfect platform for it, if not because it wouldn't (fully) work 
on a normal Linux distro.


-- Forwarded message --
From: *Hugh Tay* mailto:h...@hadronization.com>>
Date: Tuesday, 25 February 2014
Subject: [b2g] Introducing B2G to x86
To: dev-...@lists.mozilla.org 


Hello everyone,


I would like to initiate a new open-source community project to port 
FireFox OS to the Intel/AMD x86-64 platform.


I'm thinking along the lines of the port for RasPi that Oleg Romashin 
developed - executing Gecko on top of a vanilla Linux kernel with 
only the essential drivers/libraries loaded.


Supposedly this method would let us run FF-OS on an x86 PC like other 
Linux distros; e.g. Ubuntu, Fedora; just that its UI would be Gecko 
instead of KDE or Gnome.


This way we should also be able to reduce our dependence on Android 
as the backbone of FireFox OS.


Perhaps further down the line we could also take advantage of UEFI 
booting and B2G in < 10 seconds?


Would anyone be interested in contributing to this effort?

Looking forward to an exciting time ahead!


Hugh
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [b2g] Introducing B2G to x86

[Christian Stroetmann]

Aloha

I would like to inform you all about the following points:
1. We have registered our project Sugarfox (TM), publicated on the 9th 
of October 2013 ([1]), at Mozilla Firefox OS and its related marketplace 
with the creation of a partner account for our company with the 
following short description:


Sugarfox brings the learning environment Sugar in its web version based 
on HTML and JS together with the Firefox OS.


2. To port Boot to Gecko (B2G) respectively Firefox OS on X86 was 
already started around the year 2012 by some Mozilla supporters 
(actually looking for the old informations led to [2]).
3. Because you are developing Sugar Web Activities on the web browser 
(rendering) engine WebKit, it might be better to take our other proposed 
project Boot to WebKit (B2W; [3]) for a fully HTML, CSS and JavaScript 
based Sugar, though this should not be needed at all due to the 
interoperability of the applied web technologies.


Personally and honestly, I am not very interested in programming for 
Sugarfox, because of another related project that is the updated 
respectively extended version of B2W now called Boot to WebCore, which 
should get our C++Core based on the Cling C/C++ interpreter besides the 
still optionally available JavaScriptCore. For sure, this could become 
another option for the Sugar learning environment. Nevertheless, you can 
ask me everything related with software technology, software 
architecture and so on.




Have fun
Christian Stroetmann

[1] www.ontomax.com/newsarchive/2013/october.htm#09.October.2013
[2] Hacking Gaia 
developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox_OS/Platform/Gaia/Hacking
[3] Boot to WebKit and Boot to WebCore 
www.ontonics.com/innovation/pipeline.htm#boottowebkit


This is a very interesting development as a possible base platform for 
a future fully html based Sugar. B2G always felt like the perfect 
platform for it, if not because it wouldn't (fully) work on a normal 
Linux distro.


-- Forwarded message --
From: *Hugh Tay* mailto:h...@hadronization.com>>
Date: Tuesday, 25 February 2014
Subject: [b2g] Introducing B2G to x86
To: dev-...@lists.mozilla.org 


Hello everyone,


I would like to initiate a new open-source community project to port 
FireFox OS to the Intel/AMD x86-64 platform.


I'm thinking along the lines of the port for RasPi that Oleg Romashin 
developed - executing Gecko on top of a vanilla Linux kernel with only 
the essential drivers/libraries loaded.


Supposedly this method would let us run FF-OS on an x86 PC like other 
Linux distros; e.g. Ubuntu, Fedora; just that its UI would be Gecko 
instead of KDE or Gnome.


This way we should also be able to reduce our dependence on Android as 
the backbone of FireFox OS.


Perhaps further down the line we could also take advantage of UEFI 
booting and B2G in < 10 seconds?


Would anyone be interested in contributing to this effort?

Looking forward to an exciting time ahead!


Hugh
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