Re: [Sugar-devel] Google Season of Docs

2021-02-16 Thread Walter Bender
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 7:34 PM James Cameron  wrote:
>
> Thanks.  I agree.
>
> Would a technical writer alone be suitable, or must a technical writer
> be combined with a teacher?  There's a risk that by placing domain
> specific limitations on the project, we make it harder for GSoD to
> choose us.

I think we can provide the pedagogical support via mentoring much the
way we provide programming support via mentoring.

We have some very experienced people, e.g., Claudia, in our ranks.

>
> What mode of delivery is best suited to teachers; written manuals,
> lesson plans, onscreen walkthroughs, or stand up lectures?  There's a
> risk that GSoD candidates will concentrate on written documentation.

I think lesson plans are a great place to start and can serve as a
backbone for the modalities.

>
> How do we emphasise constructivism, constructionism, or constructivist
> teaching methods?  Is there a degree or certification we can require?

I don't think the writer needs to come with those skills but can learn
from some good examples from the contructionsist community.

>
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 06:52:53PM -0500, Walter Bender wrote:
> > Apologies for my late response to this thread.
> >
> > Regarding documentation, I think we have a major hole to fill in
> > Sugar, Music Blocks, and Sugarizer: supporting materials for teachers.
> > While we have docs for the individual components, we could go a long
> > ways towards giving some structure to a teacher who might want to
> > build a comprehensive program out of any of our major subsystems.
> >
> > -walter
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 4:31 AM James Cameron  wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes.  Please make a list of content if none is available and content
> > > that should be demystified?
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 10:07:45AM +0100, Samson Goddy wrote:
> > > > Anyone can correct me if I am wrong. But the point of Season of Docs is
> > > >
> > > > 1. Generate content if none is available.
> > > > 2. Very important is looking at the existing content and demystify it 
> > > > to the
> > > > nearest minimum (Sugar Labs needs this)
> > > >
> > > > The idea for a technical writer is to simplify and transfer information 
> > > > between
> > > > Sugar Labs and anyone consuming the content.
> > > >
> > > > To you, the content may look fine because you may not be the target, or 
> > > > in this
> > > > case, you are an author of some of the tools generated.
> > > >
> > > > Having great doc is a demanding requirement for onboarding in open 
> > > > source, and
> > > > unfortunately, I can't say Sugar Labs has one(simplifications).
> > > >
> > > > Also a completely different from GSoC.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021, 9:59 AM James Cameron <[1]qu...@laptop.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > My first question was the most important.
> > > >
> > > > I can't think of any documentation Sugar Labs needs that we haven't
> > > > already got in some form or other across our sprawling web presence.
> > > >
> > > > I recommend against proceeding unless some documentation is needed.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 09:42:40AM +0100, Samson Goddy wrote:
> > > > > Hello James,
> > > > >
> > > > > I read the documentation, yes it looks like a grant based program 
> > > > this
> > > > time
> > > > > around.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just as I mentioned last year, I would love to admin the program, 
> > > > or be
> > > > one of
> > > > > the admins.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am working on a system in place already.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021, 9:33 AM James Cameron 
> > > > <[1][2]qu...@laptop.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Indeed.  So the question becomes;
> > > > >
> > > > > - what documentation does Sugar Labs need (e.g. for 
> > > > Sugarizer, Music
> > > > >   Blocks, or Sugar); this forms part of a project proposal,
> > > > >
> > > > > - who will recruit, evaluate, and onboard a technical writer?
> > > > >
> > > > > - who will administer the program in Sugar Labs?
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > [2][3]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/admin-guide
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 08:48:21AM +0100, Favour Kelvin wrote:
> > > > > > It is being organized differently this year; we have to 
> > > > apply for a
> > > > grant
> > > > > and
> > > > > > then we find the writer we reach out directly to the writer 
> > > > we want
> > > > to
> > > > > work
> > > > > > with, at least that is how I understood it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1][3][4]https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/
> > > > > > 
> > > > the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html?
> > > > m=1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [2][4][5]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/
> > > 

[Sugar-devel] SLOB meeting reminder

2021-02-16 Thread Walter Bender
The next meeting of the Sugar Labs oversight board is on Wednesday, 17
February at 19:30 UTC (2:30 PM on the US East Coast).

We agreed to meet in the #sugar room of matrix.org so please be sure
to have a matrix client available. (I use element, which is available
at element.io.)

Please contact me if you have any questions.

regards.

-walter

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