[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Sugar Journal - Erase confirmation

2010-09-20 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
In Sugar's Journal, the per-entry Erase menu choice does not ask for any confirmation prior to deleting an object. This presents the risk of accidentally deleting something, especially since the View Details menu choice is immediately above it I searched bugs.sugarlabs.org looking to see if

Re: [Sugar-devel] Weekly test request reminders? (was Re: Priorities for testing)

2010-09-29 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
Are there any plans to provide remote participation via Skype or similar to these talks? Contrary to popular opinion, not everyone who works for OLPC will be going to San Fransisco next month :) --- Samuel Greenfeld QA Engineer, OLPC Association On 9/29/2010 4:24 PM, Tabitha Roder wrote

[Sugar-devel] Joining the QA Teams

2010-09-30 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
Hello; I'm Samuel Greenfeld, and I started work in September as a Lead QA Engineer for the OLPC Association. I am based out of the Miami, Florida OLPC office, where Martin Langhoff also works. I am currently the primary (and only) QA tester hired by the OLPC Association. James Cameron

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH v5 sugar] Pulsing icon delayed by 5 seconds or so SL#2080

2010-10-28 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
I was wondering about this as well. I am more of a backend programmer, but the most obvious thing that stands out to me is that Sugar activities do not seem to regularly change their launch icons. They are not like system tray or Sugar frame icons which alter themselves to tell us

Re: [Sugar-devel] Problem with Read activity and screen rotate feature

2010-11-17 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
It was a design decision (at least initially) to not rotate the Game Buttons, as users might associate their symbols (square, circle, etc.) to mean certain things. If there is a compelling reason to do this perhaps it should be revisited. I admit that this does not work well for all

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities not compatible with Sugar-0.90

2011-01-19 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
The wiki approach has been tried with http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities (which probably needs a bit of a legal/deadlink/does not work with newer OSes/etc. cleanup) but ended up a bit of a mess. I'm not certain if permissions would help much. To split this page up properly in a wiki would

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Labs Bug: 2485

2011-02-03 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
Personally I don't think this would break a multi-line fancy name unless the desired effect is to override the centering of every line. How they added the extra linefeeds in the middle would be another discussion and point we need to know. If we do want to support fancy names, etc., we are

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH sugar 2/2] Send XO serial numbers with anonymous reports

2011-02-04 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
It's worth noting that a processor serial number (along with any other persistent identifier) falls under personal information and requires anyone using this code that is either based in the United States or working with children in the United States to obey the Children's Online Privacy

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Labs Bug: 2485

2011-02-04 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
I know the journal does not have the limitations that the file system underneath it does. The journal also does do some escaping, and at some point I need to look at that in more detail. I would be a bit cautious on trusting Wikipedia on this though for export purposes. The FAT/VFAT file

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [PATCH sugar-toolkit] Insert activity root path in front of the reset of sys.path

2011-02-06 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
Not that would cause much of a slowdown, or that this would handle the (hopefully unlikely) case where Python gains modules named identically to Activity ones, but: What are we trying to solve here? Are activities bundling third-party Python libraries which have to be preferred in most

Re: [Sugar-devel] determine origin of file selected from an object chooser?

2011-02-10 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
As far as I know there really is no need; when your activity saves state (when exiting, etc.), it should save the copied file as part of the activity's journal entry. At least this is how it has always worked with Jukebox Read. (As a side note, the Journal description for a copied item often

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [DESIGN] Reflect internet connectivity in the 'Network' frame icon

2011-02-10 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
I'm pretty certain that the latest versions of Windows attempt to do determine if they have Internet or just local access, contacting a Microsoft server to see if they can reach it. However I would not recommend doing this unless you have the resources of Microsoft, or the permission to use the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Dextrose] [DESIGN] Reflect internet connectivity in the 'Network' frame icon

2011-02-10 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
I believe (but am not 100% certain) that I read somewhere that the Microsoft approach uses HTTP. This likely is because if you are using an HTTP proxy, you may not have external DNS resolution or pinging ability. As far routers go, I don't know how many of them try to be smart and indicate

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Reflect internet connectivity in the 'Network' frame icon

2011-02-13 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
For the schoolserver (and other jabber-based environments), wouldn't the best check be to see if there is a working gabble connection and that we are not on salut? It seems like a lot of people are trying to guess how deployments like to configure their networks (DNS, ICMP ping support to

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Reflect internet connectivity in the 'Network' frame icon

2011-02-16 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
There also is the possibility of a false positive if we check too little. Some networks might like to act like everything is available when that is not the case. Captive portals such as those seemingly found at pretty much every university and hotel I've gone to lately come to mind, and these

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Global create-new/modify icon

2011-03-11 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
I've noticed that many programs tend to show an icon of the document type as a button or menu hint used to create a new document, often with a small star overlaid near a corner (usually top right) of the icon to indicate the new functionality. On 03/10/11 12:16, Simon Schampijer wrote: Hi,

[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Frame activation while Sugar control panels are open

2011-03-15 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
While I had the Frame control panel open in Sugar (in 0.92/11.2.0), I found myself trying to touch various corners and sides of the screen to see how various settings would behave. {In reality this is not possible; a restart is needed for some reason to change the frame activation settings.}

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH sugar] Language: restore undo functionality in control panel section #10754

2011-03-16 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
Tested-by: Samuel Greenfeld greenf...@laptop.org On 03/16/11 11:03, Simon Schampijer wrote: The control panel has a builtin undo functionality that does call the set_* method of the model. As we have different formats of setting a language we need to compensate for that. --- extensions

Re: [Sugar-devel] Interesting USB-pluggable robots, controller boards, and sensors

2011-03-17 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
It sounds like what is desired is an update of a 10+ year-old thing I helped design called MIPPET -- Module for Input/Output Programming Projects Enhancing Teaching [1]. The interface we used was the parallel port, which made things easy at the time since USB 1.0 was in its infancy. There

[Sugar-devel] TamTam Usage Patterns

2011-03-30 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
I am in the process of trying to test the various TamTam activities (TamTam Mini, TamTam Edit, etc.) for the upcoming OLPC 11.2.0 OS release. Does anyone have any field experience with how popular and/or widely used the various TamTam activities are that can pass that information along so I know

[Sugar-devel] Minimal set of firewall ports for Salut/Gabble to work

2011-04-23 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
I have a small farm of virtual machines at home that I have been using to check out Fedora updates. Recently I was asked to look at some Sugar packages, so I tried to look at those using Salut for communication, only to be blocked by Fedora's default firewall. I looked at a Sugar on a Stick

Re: [Sugar-devel] AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'startswith'

2011-04-26 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
I already helped him with this. The issue was the ~/.i18n file missing due to olpc-utils not being in the build, and Sugar/various applications' inability to compensate ( http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10682 - although some progress has been made on this). Chris compensated for this by adding an

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH sugar] Anly approve and not handle channels in the shell, part of OLPC #10738

2011-04-29 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
Sorry about that; yes it was tested. Tested-by: Samuel Greenfeld greenf...@laptop.org On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.dewrote: On 04/15/2011 06:47 PM, Sascha Silbe wrote: Excerpts from Simon Schampijer's message of Thu Apr 14 19:42:05 +0200 2011: We

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] EduJAM day 2 Tour of Uruguay

2011-05-03 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
I would not personally know the history, but tap-to-click is intentionally disabled for the Synaptics touchpad in newer (10.1.x?) OLPC software builds for XOs. You should be able to edit /etc/modprobe.d/olpc-psmouse.conf to re-enable it: http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10119 However, be aware that

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar in Fedora 14

2011-05-14 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
That's because sugar-presence-service-0.90.2-1.fc14 {which fixes this} needs to be approved to move from testing to stable. If you install it from updates-testing it should work correctly without the file. In general there are a few things one needs to do to get Sugar working beyond

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] XO power management hindering collaboration

2011-05-15 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
In what build(s) is this occurring? And are you using a schoolserver or not? OLPC release 10.1.3 fixed some issues with XO 1.5's waking up in response to multicast traffic on the network. This is necessary for Salut/under the tree usage to work with power management. XO-1's with 10.1.3 are

Re: [Sugar-devel] Lego WeDo with Scratch

2011-05-17 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
With the planned 11.2.0 release, the WeDo plugin should come included enabled by default. Current 11.2.0 development builds include it. I tested it a bit with a two-sensor+motor WeDo kit, although for some reason I could only get it to control two devices at a time (passing a sensor through the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH Browse 0/2] Add support for Export as PDF

2011-06-26 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
On a slightly different note: what mechanism will be provided in Sugar to set the page size, if there is none already?What is going to be the default page size (A4, Letter, etc.)? And what printing margins are going to be used as the default, and presumed to be supported by all printers?

Re: [Sugar-devel] Moving to GTK3 and GObject Introspection

2011-08-06 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
The change I would like to see in the API (if we do not have it already) is to ensure that we have full ATK accessibility support for all Sugar controls. Not only would this allow screen readers, etc. to parse Sugar applications and the main window system, but it would make automated testing of

[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Stop start-up icon pulsing when an activity fails to start

2011-09-06 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
I would like to propose that we stop pulsing the animated icons (in the main screen area as well as the upper toolbar frame) when an activity fails to start, and Sugar already knows to display a message stating this happened. When this happens the animated icons should either be switched to the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Google Earth-1

2011-10-31 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
There is some debate to that on various mailing lists. Some of the support libraries used are known to be be LGPL or GPL based, but in the case of one GPL program (gpsbabel) is known to be isolated as a seperate executable. Other items like Qt potentially could have be licensed via alternative

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH 2/2 sugar] Create new owner keys as RSA keys instead of DSA

2011-11-15 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
My last two jobs significantly involved encryption, but I am not that good of an amateur cryptographer. Has anyone in the security field (such as Ivan Krstić) reviewed this proposal? Are there any potential performance impacts by switching key types for slower systems such as the XO-1? We may

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Browse PDF handling

2012-02-02 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
Something to watch out for is that many websites already like to open a separate tab or window for PDF documents, sometimes via Javascript and sometimes by setting the target frame/window. Sometimes these sites directly link the PDF file; other times they attempt to include it inline. If we

[Sugar-devel] Fedora Sugar Test Day - Test case content, location

2012-02-16 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
On March 22 there will be a Sugar test day for Fedora 17. This means that the Fedora community in general will be gathering to look at Sugar and see what issues we have close to the end of the Sugar 0.96 cycle. To help keep track of what was found and tell people where to look, we ideally should

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Testing] Fedora Sugar Test Day - Test case content, location

2012-02-16 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
The issue of using a dedicated software product to track test cases results has come up from time to time. The situation as I understand it is that OLPC in general prefers to use the resources of other {often upstream} partners whenever possible. It is felt by some people that we would spend

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Testing] Fedora Sugar Test Day - Test case content, location

2012-02-17 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
, rihowa...@gmail.com rihowa...@gmail.comwrote: On Feb 16, 2012, at 11:36 AM, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: On March 22 there will be a Sugar test day for Fedora 17. This means that the Fedora community in general will be gathering to look at Sugar and see what issues we have close to the end

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Testing] Fedora Sugar Test Day - Test case content, location

2012-02-18 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
their skill levels are so we can better tune our approach. On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 5:04 AM, Tabitha Roder tabi...@tabitha.net.nzwrote: On 17 February 2012 08:36, Samuel Greenfeld greenf...@laptop.org wrote: On March 22 there will be a Sugar test day for Fedora 17. This means

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Testing] Fedora Sugar Test Day - Test case content, location

2012-02-26 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Sridhar Dhanapalan srid...@laptop.org.auwrote: On 18 February 2012 21:04, Tabitha Roder tabi...@tabitha.net.nz wrote: On the topic of tracking testing, we have looked at a number of options here in NZ and I think Australia also looked at a number of options.

[Sugar-devel] Sugar Fedora Test Day - 2012-03-22

2012-03-20 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
On Thursday March 22 there will be a Fedora test day for Sugar [*]. Sugar is an educational graphical user environment designed for use by children. It is used by several educational groups, including the One Laptop per Child project as part of their Fedora remix, as well as the Sugar-on-a-Stick

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity Packaging Wish List

2012-03-23 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
We should do a bit of merging - I created https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_sugar_activity_list since the Fedora 13 column made me think the list was unmaintained. (Misspellings in that list are from actual package descriptions - I did not correct most of them.) Keeping the version

Re: [Sugar-devel] Wanting to know a bit of (NetworkManager) workflow upon resume-from-suspend

2012-05-02 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
It's worth noting that half the battle can be won by overriding the following XO-1 specific line in OLPC OS Builder's kspost.50.xo1-tweaks.inc: gconftool-2 --direct --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults --type bool --set /desktop/sugar/network/adhoc false Setting this to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Unit testing an activity

2012-05-03 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
Logging isn't quite the question being asked. This was discussed on IRC a bit. Taylor is potentially getting school credit for working on the video chat activity this semester. Part of Taylor's independent study agreement requires him/her to write unit tests to verify the proper operation of

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH Sugar] Inhibit power suspend while playing text to speech - OLPC #11830

2012-05-18 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
Powerd (/usr/sbin/powerd) itself is not that hard to read; it is just a shell script. On XOs, powerd is willing to aggressively suspend the system (and enable the DCON) if certain criteria are met which seem to indicate that the XO is not in use. These criteria include: - CPU usage below a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [sugar 0.96, NM 0.9 PATCH] sl#3727: Return cached secrets, present in 'settings' themselves.

2012-06-25 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
I would pull back to the Enterprise scenario here and note there are APs and smarter networks which will temporarily blacklist if not ban a client device after repeated failed association attempts. There also are networks (although somewhat rare) which change their passwords daily to ensure that

Re: [Sugar-devel] test automation

2012-07-01 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
There are a few unit and system tests scattered throughout the Sugar source code tree. I have some of them checked out at the office, but I do not recall where they all are at home. Personally I have been caught with a bit of a Catch-22: I need to write automation to save time doing manual

Re: [Sugar-devel] test automation

2012-07-01 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: On 1 July 2012 14:31, Samuel Greenfeld greenf...@laptop.org wrote: It was unclear though if I was enabling AT-SPI correctly or if Dogtail was falsely thinking that it was turned on properly. This setting differs

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-toolkit-gtk3's Sphinx documentation

2012-07-05 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
Sugarlabs already has a sphinx instance, although it is a bit out of date: http://doc.sugarlabs.org/sphinx/ It also has a epydoc instance: http://doc.sugarlabs.org/epydocs/ (a.k.a api.sugarlabs.org) I previously kept a Doxygen parsing of the Sugar toolkit, largely because I know how to make nice

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Proposal: Multi-Selection and Batch Operations on Journal entries

2012-07-18 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
I see in the final screenshots that all of the selected items are deselected. Is this automatic, or does the user have to choose the deselect all button to do this? Personally I would prefer if the checkboxes remain selected in the source view (if not an erase operation that removes the item).

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Proposal: Lease expiry information display in My Settings - About My Computer

2012-07-19 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
Personally I think this would be a reasonable feature. But prior to this discussion I have never heard of the word expiry before. In US English the synonym expiration tends to be used much more often. I do not know what the preferred international form is. --- SJG On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at

Re: [Sugar-devel] [sugar 0.98 patch] sl#3528: Keep the Sugar keyword untranslated

2012-08-03 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
This patch presumes that grammatical order is the same across all translated languages. The diff implies this might always have been the case for the first sentence. Unfortunately this is not necessarily true: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_order Personally I think this could be better

Re: [Sugar-devel] Problem downloading a lease.sig file on an XO

2012-09-12 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
This might be a better question for the OLPC development lists. On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Juan Cubillo jcubi...@fundacionqt.orgwrote: Hello, Our project would like to give kids the posibility of downloading a lease.sig file and unlock a friends or family XO without having to contact

Re: [Sugar-devel] Query regarding Drag and Drop

2012-11-06 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
It's a bug: http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/3999 On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 12:37 AM, Ajay Garg a...@activitycentral.com wrote: Hi all. I have been checking the drag-and-drop thing on the os* images; as of os9, I observe :: * I start to drag a journal-entry to one of the mount-points.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity Collaboration: Join Option on same XO

2012-12-04 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
At least historically, if you clicked the Join button and were already joined to an activity (or sharing it) you would be switched back to viewing the shared activity. Potentially more of an issue is that if you resume a Journal entry for a previously shared session, activities will attempt to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Flashing Upstream Image allows to listen to boot-up sound ... but none other

2012-12-18 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
Is the CSN XO unlocked with a permanent developer key? Which OS are you testing? Restarting to enable flash writing is a sign that the XO was secured, and that the flash command would have to be run again after the restart to allow a firmware update to proceed. If you have a developer key for

Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT] Peer XOs NOT shown in Neighborhood view when Power Management is enabled

2012-12-18 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
It sounds like you are having issues with multicast packet wakeups, which have always been a bit of a sore spot. I presume you are using ad-hoc networking, and have not left the XOs idling to the point they shutdown their screen turns black and the wifi card is turned off (~20 minutes?). If this

Re: [Sugar-devel] [XO-1 FIRMWARE UPGRADE] Unable to find host error and 404 error

2012-12-21 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
As the instructions say, the string VERSION needs to be replaced with the version of firmware you wish to download. In any case if you are using a reasonably current OLPC release (12.1.0 or 13.1.0) you should not have to worry about manually upgrading the firmware. Most XO laptop images contain

Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT] Peer XOs NOT shown in Neighborhood view when Power Management is enabled

2013-01-01 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 09:48 -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 5:14 AM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: Think I found the problem, in powerd we're setting WOL based on this string: if grep -qi :

Re: [Sugar-devel] [TRANSIENT] Peer XOs NOT shown in Neighborhood view when Power Management is enabled

2013-01-02 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote: samuel wrote: On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote: On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 09:48 -0500, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 5:14 AM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote:

Re: [Sugar-devel] Is gabble not working correctly?

2013-01-08 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
Thanks for the report. This has been confirmed and filed as http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4369 I will get some debugging information on the ticket in a bit. On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 11:48 AM, rihowa...@gmail.com rihowa...@gmail.comwrote: Jerry, I had been meaning to send an email

Re: [Sugar-devel] OLPC ext3 image for Qemu- Error 404

2013-01-23 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
OLPC has not provided qemu images for a while, so that wiki page is outdated. If you want a premade update-to-date Sugar virtual machine, you can go to http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Emulator_image_files and download one from there. Alternatively you can go to http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/

Re: [Sugar-devel] Google Summer of Code - Slots assigned

2013-05-08 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
If you want to do anything public discussing the Summer of Code proposals, you need to be careful while doing so. Google does not want students notified of acceptance or rejection until they announce it for every student on Monday, 27 May. The tracking system is setup so Sugar Labs can draft

Re: [Sugar-devel] IRC chanserv command

2013-06-30 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
The +n (no external messages from users not on the channel) is an anti-spam measure and a default for all newly-created Freenode channels. So you might not want to remove it, even if the IRC server will let you. --- SJG On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Sugar-devel] Yet another project to port Sugar to Android ?

2013-07-01 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
Although I cannot comment officially, my understanding is that these really are not that separate. What you have at the moment are a few things called Sugar: - Sugar on Linux - Sugar on Android (sometimes including the Dreams UI for the XO Learning environment) - Sugar on HTML5 (an

Re: [Sugar-devel] adding a new CA root certificate

2013-08-21 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
Unlike Firefox (which has its own PKI and certificate authority support), Webkit uses the system CA database. You therefore should add the desired CA to the directory of system CA certificates, the location of which varies a bit by distribution and version. With Fedora 19 (not yet used for a XO

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity Central's Sugar related priorities.

2013-10-07 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
Disclaimer: These are my personal views, and are not the official views of OLPC. - It should be fine to discuss anything Sugar-related on the sugarlabs.org development lists. Sugar Labs does not use any OLPC hosting services, and is an independent group as part of the Software

Re: [Sugar-devel] Have we achieved consensus among activite Sugar developers?

2013-11-04 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
I think you realized but failed to emphasize an important point: There is not a single community rallying around Sugar at this time. Instead, I see at least two if not more. Each has its own expectations and social norms, yet claims to speak for (and sometimes control) the Sugar world as a

Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4

2013-11-08 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
If these are the SKU 311 units the Manufacturing Data on the wiki implies they have membrane keyboards. If so I don't see any reason using the keyboard manufacturing tags used for previous Nepali manufacturing runs (or used testing out the settings in /etc/sysconfig/keyboard manually) shouldn't

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [b2g] Introducing B2G to x86

2014-02-27 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
Christian: This is an email mailing list primarily made of volunteers. To the best of my knowledge no one involved with this email thread so far (including me) is authorized to act on their own on behalf of Sugar Labs or OLPC. Likewise, no individual you are speaking with likely can legally

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC'14 Proposal: Turtle Art 3D

2014-03-22 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
To the best of my recollection, most if not all of the XO laptop series does not have hardware 3D support for Linux. The drivers simply were not made, partially because turning on the 3D engine drains power faster. You could try doing things through mesa's software OpenGL implementation,

Re: [Sugar-devel] API-string freeze break request

2014-05-08 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
Personally I think the odds that someone would do a disassociation attack to monitor or SSH into the laptops of Sugar-age students are low enough that it isn't worth designing for. I do not know of any consumer product which currently tries to guard against being forced to search for another

Re: [Sugar-devel] [support-gang] Does wireless missed scans problem apply in XO-1 to XO-1.5 via ad-hoc ?

2014-06-18 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
The Mayan numeral Ad-hoc icon for a network should appear on a XO-1 -- but only if another nearby computer without mesh capability (such as an XO-1.5) has connected to that Ad-hoc network first. There may be a delay before a XO-1 which is configured to default to mesh networking sees the ad-hoc

Re: [Sugar-devel] Device's Universally Unique Identifier

2014-07-24 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
Just be careful with what you do with unique identifiers. Having a unique identifier for a device is often considered the same as uniquely identifying a child. Many countries have laws about what can be collected from younger children without permission from their parent or school. This

[Sugar-devel] Community OS 14.1.0 Version 2

2015-03-05 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
I have updated the XO-1/1.5/1.75/4 images I previously made. The updated images can be found at http://www.greenfeld.org/xo/community/builds/14.1.0/build_2/ Again, these images are not supported by OLPC. It would be useful to know who actually might actually deploy these images, as there has

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community OS 14.1.0 Version 2

2015-03-05 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
it in 2013-2014. It would be good to make something available that is more up to date, even if it's not an official update. Regards, Sebastian El 05/03/15 a las 07:06, James Cameron escibió: On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 06:55:13AM -0500, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: The updated images can be found

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community OS 14.1.0 Version 2

2015-03-05 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
AM, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: No this isn't the build that runs off an SD card. If there is that much interest I will re-build the XO-1 image with the additional SD card image tonight. Apart from the XO-1, the olpc-os-builder configurations I am using are basically what you see in OLPC's

Re: [Sugar-devel] Planning for the future (Samuel Greenfeld)

2015-02-25 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
for the Web I will give to every children the same opportunities I gave to XO users. Best regards from France. Lionel. Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 18:36:34 -0500 From: Samuel Greenfeld sam...@greenfeld.org To: IAEP SugarLabs i...@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] OLPC Software

2015-02-25 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
I am not certain if this is what you are referring to, but olpc-switch-desktop is at http://dev.laptop.org/git/projects/olpc-switch-desktop/ On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com wrote: I'm wondering where the component called OLPC Software currently

Re: [Sugar-devel] XO Fedora 22 Beta work

2015-04-25 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
...@ausil.us wrote: On Saturday, April 25, 2015 10:36:49 PM Peter Robinson wrote: On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 5:10 AM, Samuel Greenfeld sam...@greenfeld.org wrote: At James' suggestion I looked a bit into a Fedora 22 beta build. I have found the following problems so far getting the RPM

[Sugar-devel] Fedora Flock Conference

2015-04-24 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
Are we planning to do anything with Sugar at the Fedora Flock Conference (August 12-15, Rochester NY - www.flocktofedora.org) this year? The call for talks just ended although it might be possible to sneak one in. Depending on interest there may be a bus from the RedHat Westford, MA office to

[Sugar-devel] XO Fedora 22 Beta work

2015-04-24 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
At James' suggestion I looked a bit into a Fedora 22 beta build. I have found the following problems so far getting the RPM dependencies worked out: - olpc-library needs to depend on python-jinja2, not python-jinja. The olpc-library RPM also was removed from Fedora, perhaps due to lack of

[Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

2015-05-05 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
I saw some discussion last week about the community XO software builds. This seems to be something which gets many people excited. However according to my web server, there have not been very many downloads of them. If I may ask: - Who actually is using/testing these images? - Why? -

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

2015-05-08 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
There are at least two types of deployments/customers that Sugar has. The first is the small, volunteer group. To them, it doesn't matter what OS they actually are using, or (to some extent) how well tested things are. They just want to come in, try something with their students, and if they

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

2015-05-06 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
I will try to answer some questions. But my last two points will only raise new ones. 1. There are a few purposes for the community build. The first is that for a while, all the OLPC builds announced seemed to be private ones available upon request. It therefore was necessary to see

Re: [Sugar-devel] Community XO software builds

2015-05-06 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
06, 2015 at 09:29:46PM -0400, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: It might be possible for this new builder to be eventually taught to handle XOs. There was no significant interest in my previous builder uxo, which already knows how to handle XOs. The recent posts on devel@ of people trying something

Re: [Sugar-devel] SOAS Fedora 22 Final Release: Collaboration in Activities

2015-05-20 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
This keeps coming up. I believe that due to changes in telepathy, collaboration (at least for Jabber) has not worked for the past few Fedora releases. Given collaboration is supposed to be one of the core features of Sugar, this makes it hard to promote. On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 12:36 AM, James

Re: [Sugar-devel] Docker in Sugar/XO laptop

2015-05-27 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
It may be possible, but not officially supported: http://mwhiteley.com/linux-containers/2013/08/31/docker-on-i386.html On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 7:51 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: Docker requires amd64, and none of the XO laptops are 64-bit, so it would not work. Docker also

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar all-hands meeting

2015-05-27 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: I don't see how changing the communication media used for the meeting will get more people involved. In particular audio/video chat is worst than text when there are more people. But I agree we need more people in the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar all-hands meeting

2015-05-26 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
is on Monday. Anyone in the community is, as always, welcome to suggest discussion topics. -walter On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Samuel Greenfeld sam...@greenfeld.org wrote: I know there have been various board and development meetings for Sugar. But I would like to propose having an all

[Sugar-devel] Sugar all-hands meeting

2015-05-26 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
I know there have been various board and development meetings for Sugar. But I would like to propose having an all-hands meeting where anyone in the Sugar community as well as related groups (deployments, schoolserver, etc.) could raise a topic and attend. If there are few enough people, we

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Announcing] UNSTABLE 0.107.1 release (feature freeze)

2016-01-05 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
In general, many widely used Sugar distributions are based on Operating Systems that are at least a few years old and full of security holes. Bringing them up to date for computers like XOs that need updated hardware drivers would require a fair amount of effort. (Hence the move by some groups

Re: [Sugar-devel] Documents and Journal paths on sugar-build

2016-05-25 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
The one problem with extended attributes is that almost everything touching and/or archiving the files needs to be aware of them. Some utilities may lack this functionality, and others have to be told to actively back these up. By means of example, XO laptops have to work around the fact that

Re: [Sugar-devel] Smart way to get $$ for posting videos on youtube

2016-06-01 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
Ignoring if Sugar Labs wishes to be associated with ads for a second, we probably should look into getting all Sugar Labs and potentially Sugarizer media-publishing accounts turned into service or corporate accounts where no single individual is in charge. That way access to those services

Re: [Sugar-devel] Smart way to get $$ for posting videos on youtube

2016-06-01 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
2016 at 7:09 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > > On 1 June 2016 at 17:07, Samuel Greenfeld <sam...@greenfeld.org> wrote: > >> I would have to ask to see what they are using. > > > Please do! :) > _

Re: [Sugar-devel] Default Collaboration Server

2016-01-18 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
I don't see this as a change disabling gabble so much as a change where no default jabber server is specified. This forces salut (ad-hoc) to be used until a jabber server is specified. Given pretty much everyone who uses gabble outside of testing uses their own local jabber server and not Sugar

Re: [Sugar-devel] Default Collaboration Server

2016-01-18 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
utomatic)? So far as I know, the XO uses salut > for ad hoc links and gabble with ejabberd. Generally, if it isn't broken, > don't fix it. > > Tony > > > On 01/19/2016 01:27 AM, Samuel Greenfeld wrote: > > I don't see this as a change disabling gabble so much as a change whe

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC proposal status

2016-02-21 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
Just for the record: The XO laptop backup mechanism for Sugar creates separate "datastore--MM-DD_HH:MM" directories for each backup. If I recall correctly, the schoolserver also periodically looks through these backups, hardlinks identical items to save space, and prunes backups beyond a set

Re: [Sugar-devel] The future of Sugar on XO-1s {Windows}

2016-04-15 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
A more direct way to support Windows would be to use the Windows port of the GTK toolkit. This has been done before: https://blogs.gnome.org/kittykat/2014/01/29/developing-gtk-3-apps-with-python-on-windows/ A GTK expert might be able to point us to the current preferred approach. On Wed, Apr

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar on Surface Pro (Microsoft Partnership)

2017-04-01 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
Looking around, I found the following code online: http://www.greenfeld.org/1April2017/SugarNET.png It doesn't seem to do much more than my previous port did [*], but it at least compiles. [*] http://www.greenfeld.org/1April2011/ On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Samson Goddy

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar on Surface Pro (Microsoft Partnership)

2017-04-01 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
in Visual Studio within five minutes.) On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Samson Goddy <samsongo...@gmail.com> wrote: > Look nice, that is awesome. Did you finish it? > > On Apr 1, 2017 10:19 PM, "Samuel Greenfeld" <sam...@greenfeld.org> wrote: > >> Looking a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar on Surface Pro (Microsoft Partnership)

2017-04-02 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
t Unity and Xfce on WSL so I think it > might actually be possible to run Sugar. > > [1] - https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/wsl/2016/07/08/bash-on- > ubuntu-on-windows-10-anniversary-update/ > > [2] - https://github.com/microsoft/bashonwindows/issues/637 > > Regards, >

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