Re: [Sugar-devel] Mago announced

2009-06-12 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/12/2009 08:06 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > http://ubuntutesting.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/mago-a-desktop-testing-initiative/ > > Once we switch unnecessary usage of hippo and add some hooks to it, > we'll be able to use the same infrastructure. > > Regards, > > Tomeu Nice! You mean get rid of hi

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Linuxtag - Getting involved [---Update---]

2009-06-13 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/12/2009 06:49 PM, David Farning wrote: > Has Rita from Etoys gotten a hold of you? I believe that she was > interested in having some of the squeak developers stay with the Sugar > team? You mean a hacking session? Have not heard anything about this yet. We share the same booth if you mean

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Jukebox-11

2009-06-13 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/04/2009 08:22 PM, Sugar Labs Activities wrote: > Url: > http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4045 > > Release notes: > http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4045#addon-advanced > > Reviewer comments: > Trusted activity > > > Sugar Labs Activities > http://activities.sugarlabs.org I installe

[Sugar-devel] Sugarizing of Web apps --- Thursday 18.06.09 - 14.00 (UTC) --- #sugar-meeting

2009-06-15 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hey, at this weeks sugar developer meeting we will welcome: *Lucian Branescu Mihaila* He is working on this years GSoC project to "Sugarize Web applications". Lucian will present his project and we then see which are the open questions and how we want to move on with it. Designers are more tha

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Show Must Go On - SoaS for the XO-1

2009-06-17 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/17/2009 11:34 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:30, Sean DALY wrote: >> In my view it's never a mistake to indicate that a procedure will wipe all >> data. >> >> We all have a learning curve and the first time I lost all my Journal >> entries including photos on an XO I w

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Server-devel] Meshnode product...

2009-06-17 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/15/2009 10:15 AM, Sean DALY wrote: > Thanks for that Sameer > > I'm sure that color scheme isn't accidental :-) > > They say it's Debian-based > > Simon - Do you think it would be useful or interesting to borrow one > of these for LinuxTag? Could you or someone on the sugar-devel team > possi

[Sugar-devel] Linuxtag - What is left to do to make it a success?

2009-06-18 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hey, I have updated our Linuxtag page yesterday with the latest news. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Events/LinuxTag2009 Upside: Our presence is getting into shape - and we have quite an interesting program together already. Downside: Arbeit zieht arbeit nach sich!* There are some

Re: [Sugar-devel] Linuxtag - What is left to do to make it a success?

2009-06-18 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/18/2009 10:57 AM, Sascha Silbe wrote: > On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 08:59:53AM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote: > >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Events/LinuxTag2009 > Quoting that page: > >> Not permitted by Linuxtag: > >> * wireless access points

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Important: Please test the new Snapshot!

2009-06-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/20/2009 04:54 PM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > On 20.06.2009, at 03:24, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: > >> Hi everybody, >> >> I'm happy to announce eventually the availability of a new SoaS >> snapshot, which is one of the last snapshots on our way to the v1 >> "Strawberry" release. I think it shou

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Implement tabs support

2009-06-21 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/17/2009 07:20 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > Hi, > > attached are two patches that add tabs to Browse. One of the is for > hulahop and the other is for Browse. > > Thanks, > > Tomeu Hi Tomeu, first - thanks for these great patches. Some high level observations: - they worked for me out of the b

Re: [Sugar-devel] Linuxtag - What is left to do to make it a success?

2009-06-21 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/18/2009 11:13 AM, Simon Schampijer wrote: > On 06/18/2009 10:57 AM, Sascha Silbe wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 08:59:53AM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote: >> >>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Events/LinuxTag2009 >> Quoting that page: &g

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Important: Please test the new Snapshot!

2009-06-21 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/21/2009 02:20 AM, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: > A new snapshot is underway, building right now. As the build process > takes rather long, I'll upload and announce it tomorrow morning. > > Changes will include the new openchrome driver (fixes #730) and an > updated Pippy version (from 25 to 31).

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] Implement tabs support

2009-06-21 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/21/2009 11:36 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 10:43, Simon Schampijer wrote: >> On 06/17/2009 07:20 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> attached are two patches that add tabs to Browse. One of the is for >>> hulaho

[Sugar-devel] Pippy - font size

2009-06-21 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, who can do this change and provide us with a new version of Pippy? http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/607#comment:13 Would be awesome to get this done as quickly as possible as we generate our final image of the Soas release today or tomorrow. Thanks, Simon ___

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Important: Please test the new Snapshot!

2009-06-21 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/21/2009 10:56 AM, Simon Schampijer wrote: > On 06/21/2009 02:20 AM, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: >> A new snapshot is underway, building right now. As the build process >> takes rather long, I'll upload and announce it tomorrow morning. >> >> Changes will i

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Linuxtag - What is left to do to make it a success?

2009-06-21 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/21/2009 03:55 PM, Caroline Meeks wrote: > Don't forget to have a supply of boot-helper CDs. It can be much less > frustrating then trying to figure out the Bios for some machines. /me has 15 boot helper cds with latest kernel cheers, Simon ___

[Sugar-devel] Etoys - export as video

2009-06-21 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, are there ways to export an animation one has done in etoys into a ogg file for example? Would one do a screencast, maybe? Thanks, Simon ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-deve

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Important: Please test the new Snapshot!

2009-06-21 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/21/2009 11:21 PM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote: > Ton, > > Tamtam activities are not working on soas as per > http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/607, > so i guess this change is intentional. Right, we first have to find and fix the issues - otherwise people will be disappointed. And the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Reporting bugs from the field on my iphone

2009-06-22 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/22/2009 11:29 PM, Caroline Meeks wrote: > One problem I have is that when I am at a school or conference I often don't > have time to stop, gather info, grab the keyboard from the person trying > sugar, log into the tracker and file a ticket. I am not a friend of those automatic bug filers.

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-artwork-0.98.5

2013-05-22 Thread Simon Schampijer
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-artwork/sugar-artwork-0.98.5.tar.bz2 == News == * Release 0.98.5 (Simon Schampijer) * Added function prototypes for theme_* to satisfy f19's gcc (William Orr) * Remove black background in Browse tab pages - SL

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-toolkit-gtk3-0.98.6

2013-05-22 Thread Simon Schampijer
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-toolkit-gtk3/sugar-toolkit-gtk3-0.98.6.tar.bz2 == News == * Release 0.98.6 (Simon Schampijer) * Use gettext algorithm to determine locale for activity.linfo (Walter Bender) * Replaced deprecated GObject methods with

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-0.98.8

2013-05-22 Thread Simon Schampijer
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar/sugar-0.98.8.tar.bz2 == News == * Release 0.98.8 (Simon Schampijer) * Update Sucrose version for 0.98.8 (Simon Schampijer) * use read_byte_async (Walter Bender) * Complete port to introspection; fix problem with language

Re: [Sugar-devel] [sugar-build] Anyone running sugar-build on i386 distros?

2013-05-24 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/24/2013 03:49 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Hi, I'm wondering if anyone at all is using sugar-build on i386. I suppose everyone has x86_64 hardware these days but maybe people are still installing i386 distros, it's the Ubuntu default for example. It's just that maintaing i386 buildbot slaves

Re: [Sugar-devel] Error doing ./osbuild build

2013-05-28 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/28/2013 01:16 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: On Tuesday, 28 May 2013, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: [..] * Split the compilation, one part to compile sugar and another to compile sugar-web, sugar-web is more unstable, and have a lot of issues. This would add more maintenance, buildbot etc work that

[Sugar-devel] How to deploy the webactivity libraries

2013-05-29 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, we talked yesterday on irc about how to handle the deployment of the webactivity libraries like sugar-html-graphics. We came up with three basic ways of dealing with it. It follows a summary. Please comment, fill in the missing items. It is an interesting item that needs discussion and re

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to deploy the webactivity libraries

2013-05-29 Thread Simon Schampijer
r library is installed in the system for usage. Thanks, Simon For hosted activities I think the right solution is loading from a web url, but we don't even have to worry about that case until we actually have a permission system in place. On 29 May 2013 12:29, Simon Schampijer wrote

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to deploy the webactivity libraries

2013-05-30 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/29/2013 08:17 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Since I'm the one proposing the implementation, and I'm actually not too keen about the idea itself, let me take a step back before I get blamed for it forever :) My feeling is that we should *not* implement this for 0.100 but rather consider (very c

Re: [Sugar-devel] Broken build, terminal

2013-05-30 Thread Simon Schampijer
quot;, line 424, in write_file text, attr = page.vt.get_text(is_selected, None) AttributeError: 'Terminal' object has no attribute 'get_text' Caused by commit b90dac1ad2b8916b123e71b73848636f83fa9fe7 Author: Simon Schampijer Date: Sat Nov 3 15:17:09 2012 +0100 Get back

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-toolkit-gtk3-0.98.7

2013-05-30 Thread Simon Schampijer
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-toolkit-gtk3/sugar-toolkit-gtk3-0.98.7.tar.bz2 == News == * Release 0.98.7 (Simon Schampijer) * Add a binding for gconf_client_set_list (using strings) (Daniel Narvaez) ___ Sugar

Re: [Sugar-devel] Broken build, terminal

2013-05-30 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/30/2013 12:00 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: The upstream bug seems to have no activity? https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=690610 Right, that is why I have no clue what fix Gonzalo means. Anyhow, he will let us know. Simon ___ Sugar-dev

Re: [Sugar-devel] Broken build, terminal

2013-05-31 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 05/31/2013 09:39 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Hello, the build is still broken because of this issue. Can we please fix or revert asap? Build bugs should be fixed with the highest priority because they affects everyone, not just your activity. Pushed a tmp-workaround to get the build going: h

[Sugar-devel] Renaming HTML ---> Web

2013-05-31 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, we an informal discussion we agreed on calling the activities that are "coded in a browser-supported programming language (such as JavaScript, combined with a browser-rendered markup language like HTML) and reliant on a common web browser to render the application executable [1]": Web act

Re: [Sugar-devel] Hacking web activities on Windows/OS X

2013-06-02 Thread Simon Schampijer
Am 02.06.2013 um 23:52 schrieb Daniel Narvaez : > Hello, > > it seems like we could increase a lot the number of potential contributors by > making it easy to hack on web activities and libraries on Windows and OS X. > Not many people are running Linux and installing it is not the easiest tas

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gtk3 sugar on Android

2013-06-05 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/03/2013 01:15 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Hi, It seems like things are coming together pretty nicely for a port of gtk3 sugar on Android. * libhybris is making progress http://mer-project.blogspot.fi/2013/05/wayland-utilizing-android-gpu-drivers.html * Gtk3 has been ported to wayland. T

Re: [Sugar-devel] Web activities and i10n

2013-06-06 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/06/2013 01:17 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Hello, I setup a fork of webL10n. I amdified it and replaced API with the gaia one minus the b2g specific stuff. https://github.com/sugarlabs/webL10n I do not see any changes from you there, why do we need the for again? Simon ___

Re: [Sugar-devel] Web activities and i10n

2013-06-06 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/06/2013 11:34 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: On Thursday, 6 June 2013, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 06/06/2013 01:17 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Hello, I setup a fork of webL10n. I amdified it and replaced API with the gaia one minus the b2g specific stuff. https://github.com/sugarlabs

Re: [Sugar-devel] Web activities and i10n

2013-06-06 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/06/2013 11:38 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: I'm not sure they really need to be on a branch btw. I've doing that to keep master the same of upstream. But maybe fetching the upstream repo on another remote gives everything you need. Yes, maybe using the master branch for the changes is a bit m

Re: [Sugar-devel] Licensing of the javascript libraries

2013-06-13 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/13/2013 01:32 AM, Manuel Quiñones wrote: 2013/6/7 Daniel Narvaez : I'm still undecided really but since it's important to make a call soon, my vote goes for Apache, both for sugar-web and for activities we develop. I'm far from expert on licenses, but given Daniel Narvaez description, I

Re: [Sugar-devel] Licensing of the javascript libraries

2013-06-13 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/13/2013 11:29 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: On 13 June 2013 11:26, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 06/13/2013 01:32 AM, Manuel Quiñones wrote: 2013/6/7 Daniel Narvaez : I'm still undecided really but since it's important to make a call soon, my vote goes for Apache, both for sug

Re: [Sugar-devel] Use ObjectChooser filtering by activity

2013-06-17 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/13/2013 06:35 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: On 13 June 2013 18:26, Daniel Narvaez wrote: On 13 June 2013 18:23, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: That is the reason is better modify the behavior of the activity filter, than allow any random list of mime types. I'm not sure to understand this. You

Re: [Sugar-devel] Use ObjectChooser filtering by activity

2013-06-17 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/17/2013 03:37 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: I like the idea of disabling the filter in this objectchooser. On 17 June 2013 15:34, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 06/13/2013 06:35 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: On 13 June 2013 18:26, Daniel Narvaez wrote: On 13 June 2013 18:23, Gonzalo Odiard

Re: [Sugar-devel] About customization of xo icon

2013-06-19 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/16/2013 07:19 AM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: I think we should decide if changing the xo icon is a feature we _really_ want include in sugar. I am not sure if add too much value, but probably can add confusion, more if is applied in all the places where the xo icons is used , like the actual im

Re: [Sugar-devel] rethinking your icon customization patch

2013-06-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
This thread is about the technical solving of the issue, did we agree on making this change, really? I am not at all convinced. What do people think about my proposal with adding a picture/drawing per kid that is part of the Palette then? We can see if we want to transfer this compressed to th

Re: [Sugar-devel] rethinking your icon customization patch

2013-06-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/20/2013 12:16 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: On Thursday, 20 June 2013, Simon Schampijer wrote: This thread is about the technical solving of the issue, did we agree on making this change, really? I am not at all convinced. The technical solution proposed here has pretty strong

Re: [Sugar-devel] rethinking your icon customization patch

2013-06-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 06/20/2013 01:28 PM, Walter Bender wrote: I agree that the technical solution we have come up with to a large extent obviates the need for consensus around whether or not to implement this feature as it pushes it to the user space in the from of an activity. (Gonzalo and I have been discussing

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Icon for toolkit

2013-08-21 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 08/21/2013 03:44 PM, Manuel Quiñones wrote: 2013/8/21 Walter Bender : I like the Join_Developer approach, although it seems a bit overly complex. Yes. I will try removing the buddy, keeping only the tools. Mind that we already have the icon for the control panel using the screw-wrench, t

[Sugar-devel] Getting involved: "Real person to help you get started"

2013-10-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, we had been giving new comers an extra hand when approaching the Sugar community by giving them contacts they could ask for entry points and such. I have been doing this for some time but can not keep up with it anymore. If someone else wants to take that role he can list himself at [1].

[Sugar-devel] Sucrose 0.87.2 Tarballs Due

2009-12-19 Thread Simon Schampijer
Dear Sucrose Maintainers, please provide source tarballs for the Sucrose 0.87.2 unstable release [1] by the end of the 21th of December 2009 and announce them as explained at [2]. This is a good moment to clean up the review queue and land the first Features that are ready. A Soas image (based

[Sugar-devel] Opportunity: Getting involved, maintaining the Write Activity

2009-12-20 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hey, the Sugar Labs community is proud to hand out this great opportunity of involvement in Sugar and maintaining a key activity of the Sugar learning platform: The famous Write activity! [1] Learners of all backgrounds and ages use the Write activity in their daily work. Write is an important

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-toolkit-0.87.2

2009-12-21 Thread Simon Schampijer
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-toolkit/sugar-toolkit-0.87.2.tar.bz2 == News == * font configuration through gconf #1584 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/li

[Sugar-devel] Linuxtag 2010

2010-01-04 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, the dates for the Linuxtag 2010 has been determined: 9th until 12th June. The Linuxtag is again taking place in Berlin, Germany. Last year we had a quite successful presentation at Linuxtag. We had a booth, gave talks, gave radio interviews etc With last year's experience and resources we

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Linuxtag 2010

2010-01-05 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 01/05/2010 03:10 AM, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: > Hi Simon, > > as also mentioned over on the OLPC Germany list I have put the dates > into my calendar and added myself to the wiki page. However I will only > be able to confirm my attendance in April at the earliest as it very > much depends on

[Sugar-devel] Etoys: toolbar

2010-01-06 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, Some thoughts that came up today - I will turn into bugs or discard after feedback. Is there a reason the etoys save a copy (keep as) button is not colored like in other activities? Is there a reason the stop button is not the most right one like in other activities? The secondary option

[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] 'Resume' vs 'Start a new' Activity

2010-01-07 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, I have observed certain difficulties with the 'resume' and 'start a new' activity concept. At the moment we have the following situation: *** Current Situation: In the Home View you can resume an activity and start a new one. The option to start a new activity is in the palette of the activ

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] 'Resume' vs 'Start a new' Activity

2010-01-07 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi Vijit, On 01/07/2010 12:45 PM, vijit singh wrote: > Hello Simon, > > Yes, I believe that's a good point. It's a bit confusing at times. I myself > got confused a few times in the beginning when I switched over from sugar > 0.82 to 0.84 and was in a habit of clicking the activity icon at once as

Re: [Sugar-devel] Etoys: toolbar

2010-01-07 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi Bert, thanks for the quick feedback. On 01/06/2010 04:10 PM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > On 06.01.2010, at 11:54, Simon Schampijer wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Some thoughts that came up today - I will turn into bugs or discard >> after feedback. >> >> Is

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] 'Resume' vs 'Start a new' Activity

2010-01-07 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi Walter, >>> I have observed certain difficulties with the 'resume' and 'start a new' >>> activity concept. At the moment we have the following situation: >>> >>> *** Current Situation: >>> In the Home View you can resume an activity and start a new one. The >>> option to start a new activity is

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] 'Resume' vs 'Start a new' Activity

2010-01-07 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 01/07/2010 05:19 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > Simon Schampijer wrote: >> When they resume a previous activity, and they wanted to start a new >> one, I have seen learners erasing the previous content and keep on >> working in that activity. > > This is the purpos

[Sugar-devel] Sucrose 0.87.3 Tarballs Due

2010-01-10 Thread Simon Schampijer
Dear Sucrose Maintainers, please provide source tarballs for the Sucrose 0.87.3 unstable release [1] by the end of the 11th of January 2010 and announce them as explained at [2]. This is a good moment to clean up the review queue and land the first Features that are ready. A Soas image (based

[Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.87.2 Development Release

2010-01-10 Thread Simon Schampijer
Dear Sugar Community, I found out today that I never really announced the 0.87.2 release. Here it goes: this is the second development release in the 0.88 release cycle - see the schedule [1] for more details. The detailed changes and where to download the sources can be found in release notes

[Sugar-devel] Feature cleanup meeting: 11.01.10 14:00 UTC

2010-01-10 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, we will meet in #sugar-meeting tomorrow to clean up the Features for 0.88. As the Feature Freeze is approaching [1] we should be clear what we want/can deliver and focus on a few items. #sugar-meeting --- 11.01.10 --- 14:00 UTC You are welcom to join and help, we will send out a summary to

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [DESIGN] 'Resume' vs 'Start a new' Activity

2010-01-10 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 01/08/2010 04:02 PM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > On 08.01.2010, at 15:41, Edward Cherlin wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 05:39, Gerald Ardito wrote: >>> I am interested in this discussion. >>> I am managing a deployment of 140 XOs/SOAS (mostly XOs) and this issue comes >>> up a lot with the s

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] 'Resume' vs 'Start a new' Activity

2010-01-10 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 01/08/2010 12:38 PM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > On 08.01.2010, at 08:56, Simon Schampijer wrote: >> >> On 01/07/2010 05:19 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: >>> Simon Schampijer wrote: >>>> When they resume a previous activity, and they wanted to start a new &g

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] 'Resume' vs 'Start a new' Activity

2010-01-10 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 01/08/2010 12:54 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 17:19, Benjamin M. Schwartz > wrote: >> Simon Schampijer wrote: >>> When they resume a previous activity, and they wanted to start a new >>> one, I have seen learners erasing the previous content a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] 'Resume' vs 'Start a new' Activity

2010-01-10 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 01/08/2010 04:09 PM, Michael Stone wrote: > Simon, > >> Most of the kids click on the activity icon when they want to start a >> new activity. > > Would you care to try patches to show both "start new" and "resume" > icons on > the home view (and maybe in the journal too)? First I hope to reach

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] 'Resume' vs 'Start a new' Activity

2010-01-10 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 01/10/2010 10:33 PM, Michael Stone wrote: > Simon wrote: >> Michael wrote: >>> Would you care to try patches to show both "start new" and "resume" >>> icons on the home view (and maybe in the journal too)? >> >> First I hope to reach consensus here about the approach to take. Can >> you elaborat

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] 'Resume' vs 'Start a new' Activity

2010-01-11 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 01/11/2010 09:37 AM, Sascha Silbe wrote: > On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 06:37:35PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > >> As a straw-man, the ring view would now display two concentric circles of >> icons. The inner ring would have consist of colored "resumable" >> activities and >> would have occasional h

[Sugar-devel] A small server-based setup

2010-01-11 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, I have a school with a few machines on which, of course, I want to run Sugar. The clients should be straight forward what I do not have much knowledge about is the server, maybe someone can comment. * Clients: As the learners are familiar with Ubuntu already, I will go for Sugar on Ubuntu.

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS with Sugar 0.87.2 coming to a system near you

2010-01-11 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 12/28/2009 09:14 PM, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: > Hi everybody, > > by popular request, there's now a Sugar on a Stick snapshot with the > latest Sugar development release available. Please note that this > snapshot is already part of our way to Sugar on a Stick v3. > > It's still based on F12 fo

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Fonts-configuration

2010-01-11 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 01/10/2010 07:00 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: > Hello, > I just wanted to announce that I would be more than happy to do the > remaining work to be done for > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Font_configuration > The main work involved is to implement a xsettings manager which will > be mo

Re: [Sugar-devel] [FEATURE] Enhanced Gettext

2010-01-11 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 01/05/2010 11:35 AM, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: > Hello, > > Below is a proposal which I hope to get into Sugar 0.88. Note that > this does not address Glucose translations. > URL: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Enhanced_Gettext > > Thanks, > Sayamindu Hi Sayamindu, thanks for bringing t

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS with Sugar 0.87.2 coming to a system near you

2010-01-11 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 01/11/2010 01:10 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 13:00, Simon Schampijer wrote: >> On 12/28/2009 09:14 PM, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: >>> Hi everybody, >>> >>> by popular request, there's now a Sugar on a Stick snapshot with the >&

[Sugar-devel] Feature cleanup meeting: 11.01.10 --- Summary

2010-01-11 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, today we went through the list of Features proposed for the 0.88 release and pending Feature requests. I will summarize here the outcome: *** Accepted: Enhanced Color Selector: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Enhanced_color_selector ---> in review process, first patch has been review

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] 'Resume' vs 'Start a new' Activity

2010-01-11 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 01/11/2010 06:12 PM, Wade Brainerd wrote: > My feeling regarding all this is that the problem is deeper than > finding a way to Resume Latest or Start New from the home screen. > > IMO, the whole idea of Resume Latest is broken and needs to be > ditched. The Journal is the place to resume activ

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] 'Resume' vs 'Start a new' Activity

2010-01-11 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 01/11/2010 06:40 PM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > On 11.01.2010, at 18:12, Wade Brainerd wrote: >> >> My feeling regarding all this is that the problem is deeper than >> finding a way to Resume Latest or Start New from the home screen. >> >> IMO, the whole idea of Resume Latest is broken and needs

[Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] 0.88 Schedule Adjustment

2010-01-12 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, in order to reflect the current 0.88 Feature Situation the 0.88 schedule [1] has been adjusted. Basically the API/ABI, Feature, UI and String Freeze have been delayed by one week. Features are accepted one more week, too. The Hard code Freeze stays the 15th of March and the final release d

[Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] 0.88 Feature acceptance ends the 18th of January 2010

2010-01-12 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, acceptance of the Features for the Sucrose 0.88 Release ends the 18th of January 2010 [1]. To propose a Feature you need to follow the Features/Policy [2]. The Feature Policy describes the steps a Feature owner needs to fulfill to propose the Feature to be part of a Sucrose release cycle a

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-toolkit-0.87.3

2010-01-12 Thread Simon Schampijer
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-toolkit/sugar-toolkit-0.87.3.tar.bz2 == News == Sascha Silbe: locate rainbow using PATH instead of hardcoding the location (#1436) Sascha Silbe: don't use rainbow if it has been uninstalled, but the config file remains (#1

Re: [Sugar-devel] Please tag tarball releases in git repository, e.g. Sugar 0.87.2

2010-01-13 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 01/12/2010 05:51 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > Ping! Thanks for pinging me again, and thanks for the patch. Has been pushed. Regards, Simon ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-base-0.87.2

2010-01-13 Thread Simon Schampijer
== Source == http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-base/sugar-base-0.87.2.tar.bz2 ==News== sugar.logger.trace(): lots of debug output (silbe) ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/l

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS with Sugar 0.87.2 coming to a system near you

2010-01-13 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 01/11/2010 05:26 PM, Jim Simmons wrote: > Simon, > > Get IA Books does allow you to change the format of the book from the > default of DjVu. That drop down is disabled until you actually have a > book selected for downloading. Once you have selected a book from the > list it should enable its

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] 'Resume' vs 'Start a new' Activity

2010-01-13 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi Gary, thanks very much for your feedback. On 01/13/2010 02:15 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: On 11 Jan 2010, at 20:44, Walter Bender wrote: On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 01/11/2010 06:12 PM, Wade Brainerd wrote: My feeling regarding all this is that the problem

[Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.87.3 Development Release

2010-01-13 Thread Simon Schampijer
Dear Sugar Community, this is the third development release in the 0.88 release cycle - see the schedule [1] for more details. Please note that the schedule has been adjusted lately. See [2] for more info. The detailed changes and where to download the sources can be found in the release notes

[Sugar-devel] [Opportunity] Control Panel Font configuration --- Developer needed

2010-01-13 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, the Font configuration [1] does need a control panel configuration panel to rock even more! This is a great task for someone to get into sugar shell programming. I would say, this is a medium to low level of difficulty coders task. With the extension structure this is a fun thing to do, an

[Sugar-devel] [Opportunity] Please do not ignore, this is not a Test!

2010-01-13 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, you are still looking for a fun task in the new year? You like to help Sugar to become a better quality product? Sugar is more than an ingredient of your Sunday cake to you? ---> Then you need to become involved with the Sugar Quality assurance aka testing! Sugar has a 6 months release cy

Re: [Sugar-devel] [POLL] Dotted Activity Versions

2010-01-14 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 01/14/2010 05:06 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 19:45, Aleksey Lim wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 06:44:36PM +0100, Simon Schampijer wrote: >>> *** Pending >>> Dotted activity Versions: >>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Dotted_

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN][FEATURE] 3G modem support

2010-01-14 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 12/11/2009 08:36 PM, mabe...@paraguayeduca.org wrote: > It has been discussed before and i have been working on it with Daniel > Castelo from Uruguay. > > This is the link of the formal proposal, I will be updating it soon. > > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/3G_Support Hi Martin & Daniel

Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking feedback on sketch of a new color selector

2010-01-15 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi Walter, as far as I know there are no more design decisions to make for this Feature. Can you update the Feature page, espacially the detailed description to the latest state? Do we have the shortcut and is it possible to have the random selection? If there are open questions we can clear t

[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] 0.88 Meeting --- 16. Jan 2010 (16:00 UTC)

2010-01-15 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, this weekend we will have a design meeting to clear the open design questions for the 0.88 release. Of course highest priority have the 0.88 Features and some feedback from the field that has been discussed on the mailing list. If I miss something in the list on [1], please let me know. *

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Mockups of Home view showing "Start new" ring and separate row of icons for resume

2010-01-16 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 01/16/2010 04:14 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: > Hi folks, > > Some quick mockups of a Home view idea mentioned in previous discussions. > Just intended as extra material for todays irc design meeting. > > 1) Ring of activity icons reverts to the "Start new" behaviour; Journal icon > is always show

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN][FEATURE] 3G modem support

2010-01-16 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 01/15/2010 02:36 PM, Daniel Castelo wrote: > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 5:48 AM, Simon Schampijerwrote: > >> On 12/11/2009 08:36 PM, mabe...@paraguayeduca.org wrote: >>> It has been discussed before and i have been working on it with Daniel >>> Castelo from Uruguay. >>> >>> This is the link of the

[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] [MINUTES] 0.88 Meeting --- 16. Jan 2010 (16:00 UTC)

2010-01-16 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, we had quite a productive design meeting today. First, thanks everyone for attending. We hope to do those design meetings again more regularly with the long term goal to establish a process to enhance the Sugar learning platform. Topics: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/0.88_Meeti

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] Mockups of Home view showing "Start new" ring and separate row of icons for resume

2010-01-17 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 01/16/2010 05:39 PM, Gerald Ardito wrote: > I think the the two ring idea might work really well with students. I can > show the two options to my 5th graders and see what they prefer, if that > would help. Feedback from the field is always helpful. In the design meeting those two options were

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] 'Resume' vs 'Start a new' Activity

2010-01-17 Thread Simon Schampijer
In yesterday's design meeting [1] we discussed this issue. The outcome was the following (full logs can be found at [2]): The design team tried to find a solution to keep the distinction between the Home View and the Journal clear: The Journal is the place to resume previous work. The Home View

Re: [Sugar-devel] [NEW FEATURE] write to the journal whenever you want

2010-01-17 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 12/14/2009 03:23 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 15:49, Walter Bender wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Gary C Martin wrote: >>> Hi Walter, >>> >>> On 19 Nov 2009, at 19:32, Walter Bender wrote: >>> Many of us love the Naming Alert, but even more seem to despise

Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking feedback on sketch of a new color selector

2010-01-17 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 01/15/2010 03:48 PM, Gerald Ardito wrote: > Walter and Caroline, > > I have had a completely different experience with color picking. When we > give the XOs to the students for the first time, they love picking their > names and colors. It is not disruptive at all. The students report that they

Re: [Sugar-devel] [POLL] Dotted Activity Versions

2010-01-17 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 01/14/2010 09:24 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: > On 14 Jan 2010, at 19:14, Simon Schampijer wrote: > >> On 01/14/2010 05:06 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 19:45, Aleksey Lim wrote: >>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 06:44:36PM +0100, Simon Sc

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] multiple selection in the journal

2010-01-17 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 12/20/2009 11:39 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > Hi, > > often have heard from the field about the need to select multiple > entries and delete them. Should we add a checkbox to every entry in > the list, or allow the user to select with shift-click and ctrl-click? > Or anything else? > > Thanks, > >

[Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] 0.88 API/ABI Freeze Jan the 25th 2010

2010-01-17 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, we have an API/ABI Freeze Jan the 25th 2010 [1]. If new API is added or changed it has to be done by that date. If your Feature adds/changes new API you have to land it before that date, or at least land the API changes. Regards, Simon [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.88/Roadmap#Sch

Re: [Sugar-devel] [NEW FEATURE] write to the journal whenever you want

2010-01-17 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 01/17/2010 01:30 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 13:21, Bert Freudenberg wrote: >> On 17.01.2010, at 11:53, Simon Schampijer wrote: >>> >>> ==Write to Journal anytime== >>> Instead of the naming alert when you close an activity *for the f

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