Very sad news indeed.
Here at OLPC France we have lovely memories of his kindness and his
willingness to always make things better for kids and for the Sugar
community in general.
Sincere condolences, and a warm hello to all.
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refox: the Mother Ship of a large community
sharing a distinct set of values. Part of this community works on a
great software, Firefox, but others work on other tools and all "make
the web a better place" by producing free software and by pushing for
open standard as much as possible.
new energies and new initiatives around powerful ideas such
as the Journal, the portfolio, collaboration, etc., and I think these
ideas would prove even more stronger if they were not implemented in
just one platform.
I hope everyone can read this as a constructive proposal.
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on't think it's an effective way of
dealing with the lack of contributors.
I think Sugar Labs is still very needed, maybe more than ever, but I
do believe the focus needs a small switch: not a U-turn, just a slight
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y issues, there is
https://sustainoss.org and also a list of articles I maintain here:
https://bzg.github.io/opensource-challenges/
As you can see, this is quite a complex issue, I doubt any simple
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w "deployments" in new
countries?
...
That's what comes on the top of my head right now.
Maybe I'll get some answers for these questions by just asking them on
this list, but a State of Sugar could answer other questions of course.
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we didn't receive any answer to this question: "how to get in touch
with schools or places in south america where XO are still in used?"
This would be very helpful to have, if not direct contacts, at least
some ideas on how to find them.
Thanks again!
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about IT, IT domain in need of qualified people, etc…)
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Hi Joel,
great to read you want to try setting up a Sugarizer server.
On top of James' guidance, if you feel like asking anything
in the process of setting up the server, please do so with no
hesitation: we're here to assist you.
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> Hope this answers your query.
Yes it does -- thanks for taking the time for the detailed answer.
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James Cameron writes:
> It is https://github.com/amanharitsh123/sugarizer-school-box and was
> forked in February, then diverged from upstream in May. 6936833 is
> the point of divergence.
Thanks - I guess the documentation needs to be further clarified.
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been updated since feb. 27th so I'm not sure.
Anyway, thanks for putting efforts into writing more documentation,
that's always where things fall short.
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Hi Aman,
this is great work, thank you.
If I may ask, why the initial image is so big? Can you detail a bit
what takes so much place?
Also, is there a documented way to customize the image?
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tanding.
> What I think everyone agrees is that we want to sort this out so
> that both the code bases can move forward.
Indeed! On the Sugarizer side, we are taking this very seriously.
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Hi Tony,
Tony Anderson writes:
> Attached is a spreadsheet which shows the current status (subject to
> clerical error).
Ouch. I see a lot of "MII" (missing in inaction?) in this list.
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e they just work?
>
> No, they mostly no longer work because libraries they depend on are no
> longer available.
Okay.
>> So who is Sugar currently developed for?
>
> I've no clear answer to that.
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>
> Sugar Labs, SFC, Google, and One Laptop per Child (OLPC, Inc).
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C association still somehow involved?
Sorry if those questions sound naive, I'm just trying to catch up
and understand better the ecosystem at large.
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sounds like a good idea.
Also, on a more general level: we tend to focus on gathering code
repos while the problem often stems out of sparsed developers.
So perhaps this all should be about *gathering developers* first,
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potential contributors.
While I recognize enforcing a central authority is not good, there is
still value in encouraging people to use https://github.com/sugarlabs
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as much as I appreciate efforts to be completely transparent on those
issues, would you mind having the discussion on a single mailing list?
Receiving those emails twice is a bit stressful.
Thanks!
And a big hugs to all paid or unpaid Sugar/OLPC *volunteers* <3
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Hi sugaristas,
is there an API to access content from aslo?
The purpose is to retrieve information from all activities
to display them on an offline web page. And maybe to play
with a nicer way of searching through all this content.
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Dear all,
here is the PDF for Walter's keynote on saturday:
http://people.sugarlabs.org/walter/olpc-france-sugar-camp-2014-walter-bender.pdf
If anyone wants the TurtleArt sources, just ask him :)
Thanks again Walter for this nice kickoff!
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a, please go ahead. Here is the mail of the
Kiwix author:
Emmanuel Engelhart
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for
the english Vikidia to the Kiwix team.
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about the project at the SugarCamp meeting in Paris -- come and
meet them!
http://www.amiando.com/sugarcamp3.html
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All this is completely off-topic on this list and I'm personally done
with the good laugh I had, so I suggest we move to something else.
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doubt you officially registered "One Tablet Per Child".
I mean... "One LEGO Laptop Per Child (TM)"... a new trademark with
LEGO within it, seriously?
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fficult. I've been through this
already and will help.
Anyway, let's not let this spoil our pleasure, and congrats again!
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Hi Lionel,
would be nice to see if the sugarizer passes the librejs tests:
see http://www.gnu.org/software/librejs/
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know how
it can help Sugar concretely, as I don't even know if Sugar "easy"
bugs are already listed somewhere.
Maybe someone more familiar wih Sugar can have a look.
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Hi Manuel,
Manuel Quiñones writes:
> That will work.
Okay, thanks!
> We can also have FR / EN / .. selector in the site header.
Indeed -- a link in the header would be useful.
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Hi all,
I'd like to start translating sugar-docs into french.
What method? Adding the pages in a "fr/" subdirectory?
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Lionel Laské writes:
> I've decided to name it "Sugarizer" and package it as a dedicated web
> site:
>
>http://sugarizer.org
Nice! Time to organize a small "Sugar on the Web" workshop in France
I guess :)
A happy xmas/
Sean DALY writes:
> I feel that 0.100 is even more unmarketable than 0.98.
Agreed. Mathematically, it reads like a regression. Instead of
reaching some definite level of maturity, it gives the signal that
Sugar is in its early alpha (which is clearly wrong IMHO.)
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for education, than to market a software
suite on Android. In this later case, we are just marketing Android.
I'm done with the rant. And of course, I would not feel so strongly
about this if I was not aware about everyone's effort about Sugar.
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> another platform first, and then the activities can follow. Otherwise, it's
> just a bunch of random apps, of which there are plenty already in the
> various app stores.
Bit +1. Android seems a distraction so far. Let's built on what
Sugar differs: great UI ideas.
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get a sense of what current devs are comfortable
with? If they are comfortable with using MarkDown, I'd favor
using this.
Such feedback would be interesting anyway.
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7;s easier to feed a translator with them, and it can then be
converted into Mallard (for internal browsing), or HTML (for online
documentation) or... anything else.
Storing directly in Mallard would be a mistake IMHO.
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nt is the network part and some Dbus dependent
> software.
I have very little time right now for this, I will continue to use
Sugar in a VM and hope someone can improve ArchLinux support.
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SyntaxError: invalid syntax
make: *** [build] Erreur 1
I would *love* to install Sugar this way!
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>
> Send me or copy/paste the log file if you wanted me to have a quick
> look.
My bad. I clicked on "Ignore version check" before downloading this
Activity. I will report problems on other Activities when I encounter
them.
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> can use the 'Advanced' search button on the main ASLO:
>
> [cid]
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suited for small Orgs with no money. It is good for well-established
Orgs like the Wikimedia Foundation and others, but not for small ones.
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> Click the link, trust me, you won't regret it :-)
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Chris Leonard writes:
> Please write it up on the wiki and we will try to get some GCI
> contributors to work on it.
>
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/GoogleCodeIn2012/GCI2012_Brainstorming
Done on the page above as (9).
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rking on it, maybe he needs some help?
What about upgrading to a more recent version of the software?
Would be nice to know how one can help here.
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ave a field in the global search form which lets
you filter the results by Sugar version.
Is it something that is available somehow?
Maybe create temporary collections of activities based on whether they
are compatible with Sugar versions?
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> consistency.
I'll give it a try -- but this will perhaps just make me want to write
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Chris Leonard writes:
> There is always working off-line with Virtaal, which is an excellent
> option.
Thanks for the pointer (I'm using po-mode in Emacs, which is good
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s a plan to improve this, because so far I'm really reluctant
to engage newbies/non-techies into t.sl.o, they will feel the pain,
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Hi,
I wanted to help with the translation but the server is very slow,
if not completely unresponsive sometimes.
Is it just me?
Anything that can be done to improve the situation?
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even from .docx!) into this raw text
content.
Then think on how to reformat/reuse it later on.
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once the zim file is
> made it looks nice :-)
Emmanuel (cc'ed) is the author of Kiwix and he can help creating .zim
files -- provided that you ask him :)
Please first check that your zim is not already there:
http://www.kiwix.org/index.php/Main_Page/en#Wikiped
Hi all,
does anyone from Sugar follows the Gcompris english mailing
list for developers?
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gcompris-devel
I just subscribed to this list and to the french one, will
try to contact potential contributors to Gcompris/Sugar.
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we can but him in touch with Bruno? That way Bruno will just have
to interact with the mentor (lowering the psychological threshold
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se was able to do this.)
He doesn't have a XO 1.5.
We are right now preparing a project in France that takes all our
XO 1.5 -- so we will not be able to hand him a XO 1.5 over, unless
we get another one.
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but not that much for developers docs.
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> Congratulations Pablo, keep up the good work.
+100!
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bserve the moon and learn basic
astronomy.
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within some core Activities
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ot;glossary" of the functions available in this activity, as a reference
> accompanying a more formal user manual (either online or online).
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imple howto in a how/
directory would be nice.
Even for us, lucky connected chaps, most applications come
with offline documentation...
I'm done with my last 2cts :)
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the FLOSS/DOCS presentation in which I summarize
the background ideas and motivations for this proposal:
http://lumiere.ens.fr/~guerry/the-four-letters-word-of-floss-docs.html
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Looks quite good actually.
Best,
Sugar_Introduction.po
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encourage la réflexion, et vous pourrez y évaluer les progrès de l'enfant ayant á l'esprit une évaluation "portfolio" (portefeuille de compétences). Vous pourrez également l'utiliser comme catalyseur en vue d'une discussion avec votre enfant ou votre étudiant. Nous encourageons l'utilisation du champ de description via la Vue détaillée du Journal pour annoter ou commenter les entrées.
Le Cadre
Index
Personnaliser Sugar
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> IMHO Telescope sounds good.
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http://www.slideshare.net/cgueret/semanticxo-connecting-the-xo-with-the-worlds-largest-information-network
Since some work about extending the Journal is at stake, I thought
this might be of general interest to the list.
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Bastien Guerry - reformat the OLPC Deployment Guide
The OLPC Wiki gives access to the PDF version of the [2011 OLPC
Deployment Guide]. I took this guide, converted
The project I have been mentioning in my previous email will
surely use Ubuntu 10.4.
The Sugar version you get with Ubuntu 10.4 is 0.88.
Any way to have a more recent version of Sugar available?
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suggest moves. I am
> thinking for example of Sokoban.
Mhh... yes. Abacus would be great too!
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What set of meaningful activities would you pick up?
Hope you're still here. And thanks in advance for any answer!
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² http://www.kiwix.org/
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> With people coming in from all over the world, it would be great to have
> a key signing event.
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Dear all,
I'm quite excited by the list of participants for this second SugarCamp
in Paris (sept. 10th and 11th):
Antoine Michelot, Christian Fortunat Kakoba Mugisho, Bastien Guerry,
Christoph Derndorfer, Clément Monjou, Daniel Drake, David Bourguignon,
Gabriel Vieira, Gary M
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Aloha all,
this is the current list of people who plan to attend the 2nd SugarCamp
in Paris, september 10-11:
Antoine Michelot
Bastien Guerry
Christian Fortunat KAKOBA MUGISHO
Christoph Derndorfer
Jonathan Ragot
Kevin (shaiton) Raymond
Lionel LASKE
Luke Faraone
Melina Gallopin
OLPC: http://www.laptop.org
OLPC France: http://olpc-france.org
Sugar Labs: http://sugarlabs.org
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This should include not only
> Pootle-hosted (and upstream strings), but contributions to
> longer-form efforts like FLOSSManuals e-books.
Noted -- thanks.
I plan to stabilize the schedule before next week, so please all
send your suggestions and comments!
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ut complete sugarization might be
extra work that they cannot afford for now. Eric, please correct me if
I'm wrong.
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xt meeting -- hopefully we can work on a
short-term solution (local GetBooks + OPDS) and a long-term one
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d be interesting
> to the design team. If there's now two reasons for an activity to be
> present, this makes it more complex for the learner.
>
> I don't have a strong opinion either way.
Me neither. I was more pointing something that sounded conceptually
rele
James Cameron writes:
> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 02:57:47PM +0200, Bastien wrote:
>> - such an accidental blank screen could display a warning about ongoing
>> search bringing no result;
>
> Yes, and that's what the Journal now does. The list view does not.
It would
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