I think 8pm Boston is 1am Tuesday UTC.
Tony
Where: irc.freenode.net #sugar-meeting (chat.sugarlabs.org)
When: Monday, 2 November 23:00 UTC (Boston 8PM*) [1]
Who: Sugar Oversight Board and Sugar community members
What: Discussion about membership and the upcoming election, the new
website
Hi
It depends on whether you are a touch typist. The touch typist will
be looking at the screen and will see the autocomplete. The non touch
typist willl be looking at the keyboard and will not notice it.
Tony
I don't think that selecting the text is the right approach. If I am a
slow
And finally a 1.75 image
http://bender.sugarlabs.org:3000/images/xo1.75/1/
installed image ok
Browse works
downloaded and installed terminal and turtle blocks ok
default font a bit big
Tony
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And finally a 1.75 image
http://bender.sugarlabs.org:3000/images/xo1.75/1/
installed image ok
Browse works
downloaded and installed terminal and turtle blocks ok
default font a bit big
A few things don't work, presumably just not included in the image:
Gnome
Write: import error abiword
Hi
From a user perspective a notification is in a layer above the
Activity canvas so it doesn't seem right to change to the home canvas.
At least that's my mental model.
Tony
I implemented a solution to #4756: Maximum Activities notification
doesn't display [1] [2]. My approach was to
Hola Franco
When I click Introduction
error:
Unable to load page 0.0.0.0:36722/book_data/
Message corrupt
Tony
Activity Homepage:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4740
Sugar Platform:
0.100 - 0.100
Download Now:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/28937/learn_to_code-1.xo
Hi
You say For this GUI to reach a wider user base, parental controls
are therefore needed.
Can you please expand on this. Why are these controls needed? In which
circumstances would they be enabled? Which releases would be controlled?
Historically, Sugar and OLPC have been based on a
Hola!
I got a notify_user() to work OK using the Develop Gtk3 template.
Looks like the Activity needs to be Gtk3. I have amended the wiki to
say Gtk3 required.
Gracias
Hola Tony!
From activities you can send these notifications using:
self.notify_user(summary:str, body:str)
There is
Thanks
How and when are notifications generated? I want to test the new
feature - notification system.
Tony
Hello Everyone,
I have created images for all XO models, with the updated sugar packages
that were provided by Gonzalo. These images are based on OLPC-AU au1b
images.
Please
Thanks
So am I right to say that currently Sugar and its Activities never
generate notifications and the only way to generate one is to run a
test script?
Tony
You have information about how to test here:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Notification_System
By the way, I have
Gonzalo
I made you the owner of this bug because I think you are the most
recent maintainer of Develop. Hope that's OK
Tony
#4745: Develop 40 sugargame template error in activity.info
-+--
Reporter: tonyforster
Hi
Could someone with the permissions please make the ASLO page for Develop
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4058
have a home page link to
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Develop
Thanks
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Hi
Does it run on XO4 hardware? I got
[olpc@xo-92-f0-ca Documents]$ python ta3d.py
freeglut (foo): OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display ':0.0'
Tony
Dear All,
I have drafted my GSoC 2014 proposal for the project : Turtle Art 3D
Thanks Sam
Its not a XO-4 or ARM issue, I get the same on XO-1.5.
Tony
I don't think xo4 has opengl. I tried to use a clutter based app and I got
a crash :(
Maybe there are some drivers, or otherwise you'll need to make 3d from the
ground up.
Have fun
On Mar 22, 2014 9:10 PM,
Anubhav
A very interesting project with the potential to make a major
contribution to the community.
A couple of products worth looking at, particularly for their UI and
how child friendly they are:
Star Logo TNG is 3D http://education.mit.edu/projects/starlogo-tng
Kahootz was a 3D
Sameer
In Terminal type gedit
navigate to home/olpc/Activities/[laptopname]copy_of_Clock.activity
edit the source
note in Sugar 0.100 you have the permissions to access the Activities
directory, in some old Sugars and maybe future Sugars you do not
chmod 777 Activities sets read and write
Hola
I will be at Edujam. I am in Paraguay 7-13 October. I would like to
discuss Android at the hackaton.
Tony
In the context of the next eduJam [1] in Paraguay, we plan do a hackaton.
Who plans be there, and what topics do you would like discuss/hack?
Gonzalo
[1]
Hi
Spirituality for Kids seems to be closely associated with the Kabbalah Center.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabbalah_Centre
Tony
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 4:35 PM, James Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote:
Walter,
Several points in your digest got my attention. First, I like the
1 Android kernel + Ported linux libraries + Sugar
2 Android kernel + Datastore/Collaboration replacement + Sugar rewritten in
HTML
3 Full Android + Datastore/Collaboration replacement + Sugar activities
rewritten in HTML
4 Full Android + Datastore/Collaboration replacement + Sugar activities
Thanks to everybody who has contributed to the discussion so far, particularly
to Sean for his well researched post on Android developments.
The choices as I understand:
0) Do not have an Android transition plan
1) A suite of Activities with a common look and feel but leave things like file
Hi
When the XO was first designed it was an open choice for operating system,
desktop and file manager. Some innovative choices were made to optimise the
experience of new young users. Some I think were good, some bad.
I think Android is the likely educational future. It is not an open choice
Gonzalo
Thanks, Tuxmath on 0.96+ is a problem for the East Timor deployment. I want to
be clear what you are recommending, before I pass the info on to them.
Install your Tuxmath version and sudo yum install tuxmath
Is that right?
Or is the tuxmath packaged in fedora already part of Sugar 0.96?
Hi
You have looked at http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ ?
Tony
Hello,
Matt and I are taking the Humanitarian and Open Source development class at
Rochester Institute of Technology. We need to pick a portion of the OLPC
project to work on, and we chose to do development on Sugar itself.
Hello,
I expect what Simon is asking is some more information to back up this
statement:
Both individual users and deployments need to be able to set a proxy for
Sugar and activities to use.
Hi
To access internet in Australian government schools you need to use a proxy. I
am not sure
If the laptop is take home, the user would want to be able to access
the internet in public libraries, Macdonalds restaurants, shopping
malls, cafes, home etc. To do this they need to be able to disable
the proxy.
This might be a rarer requirement in this deployment, but it would be
Alan
even better
thanks
Tony
I change the .ta to this automatic version that begins in 1 and continues..
see .ta attached..
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http://www.datapointed.net/visualizations/math/factorization/animated-diagrams/
Beautiful, thanks for sharing. If anyone does code this up, please allow
for stepping (rather than playing) and allow kids to enter numbers and
factors, so they can guess and look for patterns. Or kids could
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 05:17:02PM +1100, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote:
Is there any way for them to install gcc?
I've had a quick look at gcc 4.7.2 sources and they appear to support
the usual --prefix method of configuring, so that they might be
installed in the directories of a
Sure Tony,
Thanks for your valuable comments. I will look into the changes. Also, I
will look for method that takes the children through steps to install gcc
if its not there already.
Thanks,
A couple more ideas, it might be better to compile with the -lm switch so you
can use math functions
I am for option 1.
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Thanks James
If I understand,
A developer makes a version of gcc that can run from
~/Activities/oopsy.activity , this is included in oopsy.xo bundle(maybe 2
versions x86 and ARM), at install time (optionally oopsy checks for the
presence of gcc and if not present then) oopsy installs gcc at
Kartik
Thanks for creating this Sugar Activity, well done.
Some comments, the users may be very inexperienced programmers so anything that
helps them is worthwhile. The list of example programs on the left require a
double click to load, Sugar does not generally have double clicks so this
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Agustin Zubiaga Sanchez a...@sugarlabs.org
wrote:
Hi everybody,
Now, if we download or copy a .xo to the journal, it is installed
automatically and doesn't informs to the user that the activity is being
installed.
Is this a change in 13.1.0? I
Hi
As a beginner, I found creating a Sugar Activity difficult. More difficult than
creating a program to run from Terminal or Pippy. You might get better value
using Pygame and writing something that can run from Pippy. The goal could be
to create more Pippy built in samples.
If you are going
Hi!
I'm sorry if this has been asked before but I woud like to know how to
catch touch events or e-book mode programmatically?
ebook: /dev/input/event3 (XO-1.75) event4 (XO-1.0 - 1.5)
from http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Turtle_Art#Device_I.2FO
Tony
USB flash drive
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 06:08:26PM +1100, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote:
I repeated these tests
Thanks!
XO-1.75 and XO-4
OS14
Huawei E160E modem
Imation 8GB memory stick
Is this actually a Memory Stick or do you mean a USB flash drive?
Hi James,
I agree that the frame icon for the modem may not be present if power
managament was enabled,
The frame does work with the Power Management option unchecked. What does
the frame icon for the modem mean?
see http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Gsm_share_state0.png
which shows
I repeated these tests
XO-1.75 and XO-4
OS14
Huawei E160E modem
Imation 8GB memory stick
I was unable to replicate the fault described by Ajay, the modem appeared in
the frame, both plugged in after boot and before boot
but for both laptops
In the first test, memory stick and modem plugged in
Ajay
You do not say which OS you are using or whether its Sugar or Gnome desktop.
For most of 13.1.0 the modem dongle has not been appearing in the Sugar frame.
It was fixed at OS11 I think but I have not tested it a lot to see if its
always there in the frame.
Tony
I have heard from other
See also http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/12161
Tony
Hi folks,
I made a simple Sugar activity to test the XO-4's multi-touch screen:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4611/
It works fine most of the time. Sometimes the touch contact ends unexpectedly
without lifting
Added a link from http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Write
Tony
On 31/10/2012 13:04, Walter Bender wrote:
Could you please put these instructions in the wiki? It would be
useful beyond sugar-devel.
Hi
I have an Activity which has:
self.textview = gtk.TextView()
self.textview.connect(key_press_event, self.keypress_cb)
I am only getting key_press_event from the OSK from enter and backspace
I only open the OSK when clicking in the textview if I have first clicked on
Thanks
I will look at the error log more carefully when crashing
Its been one of the last things in the log when crashing and I assumed it was
the cause
Tony
2012/5/23 fors...@ozonline.com.au:
Flavio
I also get 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'set_invoker'
on the XO-1.75, Browse on
Another thing that I'd like to mention is the language. This list is
in English, and it would be good if we can respect that. I wouldn't
like to start reading emails in German or Chineese (I don't have any
problem with those languages, but I don't understand a word :P )
Thanks for raising
Flavio
I also get 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'set_invoker'
on the XO-1.75, Browse on Webkit
See Ticket #3503 comment 5
I don't know if the disable JIT fix will be relevant to this.
Tony
/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/gobject/constants.py:24: Warning:
g_boxed_type_register_static:
Tested the os9 build for a few basic tests, reports below:
...
? Pippy
? warnings in the terminal console before any example related text
appears (annoying)
...
See http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/3492
Pippy -import pippy produces warnings
Tony
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Pilas
is interesting, I have translated the English documentation
I can only get it to execute in immediate mode, I expect you can run it from
Pippy or Terminal/python but I get import errors when I try
Tony
Paul
Keeping the dongle powered also happens with automatic power management on the
1.75 (ie 15 seconds with no input). Same problem though, keyboard or trackpad
input to wake up powers down the dongle.
It takes 35 seconds for the dongle to appear in the frame, then user input is
required,
Paul
Tried this with a XO-1.75 and a XO-1.5 both running OS31
Tried a Huawei mobile dongle, a memory stick and a mouse
The only case where a USB device remains powered during sleep is the mobile
dongle on the 1.75
Tony
fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote:
Thanks
I have noticed another
Thanks
I have noticed another issue with the mobile dongle. OS31, XO-1.75
Press the power button once and wait for sleep. The dongle remains powered on
(which is a good or bad thing depending on your point of view), then press the
power button to wake the laptop, the dongle is briefly turned
David
This message was sent with a gsm dongle on an xo-1
modem:Huawei E160E
carrier:Locked to Dodo (an Optus reseller)
XO-1
OS31 development which is same as os884 signed
in my settings, enter username, password, leave *99# unaltered, dodolns1,
blank, blank
turn off power management,
Yes
As predicted, Measure's stereo input on the XO-1.5 worked and the biggest
problem was the triggering
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3vKVTW1LQA
Tony
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 5:26 AM, Dominik Granada dgran...@frks.pl wrote:
Hi,
did anyone try to repeat Ch. Stoll sound wave measurement
Can somebody please restart the server wiki.sugarlabs.org
(I suspect I crashed it, Browse fails to download pages if you dont wave the
mouse around, that resulted me leaving it with a file rename form open for 15
minutes and I suspect something timed out)
*Documentation TBD in
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/ClassroomBroadcast
I have edited this documentation
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fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote:
Thanks Paul
thanks for testing!
The logic appears to be buggy, see #11487: XO-1.75 OS12 backlight
is off when you come back inside
okay, more testing is needed. as you noted, it's quite hard to tell
when it's on and off. i'll see if i can
Thanks Paul
The logic appears to be buggy, see #11487: XO-1.75 OS12 backlight is off when
you come back inside
As it stands, neither the monochrome nor colour modes are OK in full sunlight.
The colour mode causes a significant loss of resolution for reading small black
text and even more
out of curiosity: What is the advantage of using this activity over
VNCLauncher (http://activities.sugarlabs.org/de/sugar/addon/4311)?
Out of curiosity, i tried VNCLauncher on OS880
Firstly, I was able to install the client - TigerVNC (though you need root to
do it)
and run it
sudo yum
The shift from colour to monochrome is noticable and would be annoying if it
happened a lot, for example as clouds pass, trees and people move.
If the hysterisis, the difference between cutin and cutout brightness is large,
the change in mode will happen a lot less frequently and not be
Neither of these Activities have an ASLO link to a wiki page
It looks like both require extra software to be installed and this is beyond
the skills of the average teacher without guidance
A wiki page describing the steps to get these Activities working would be good,
Being able to display
Does this help?
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Human_Interface_Guidelines
Tony
Is Sugar themed in this way?
http://art.gnome.org/themes/metacity
(understanding that mutter will make this obsolete, what I am trying to
figure out is...)
Where is the equivalent description of the look and
(2) Should I add my Physics toolbar plugin to the release or leave it
as a separate install... If you haven't tried it, it is really fun.
But perhaps a distraction?
I can confirm that it is really fun. It means that you can create
machines with a precision that is not possible in Physics.
On 27 October 2011 08:43, Erik Blankinship er...@mediamods.com wrote:
Is there a way for an xo bundle to install a font to the system (for cairo
to use)?
Maybe you could include a script that copies the fonts to ~/.fonts ?
Then a potential problem is that when you uninstall the Activity
On 31 October 2011 13:13, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote:
On 27 October 2011 08:43, Erik Blankinship er...@mediamods.com wrote:
Is there a way for an xo bundle to install a font to the system (for
cairo
to use)?
Maybe you could include a script that copies the fonts to ~/.fonts ?
(added IAEP to the distribution because this is more about the education than
the tech)
simon wrote:
Ok, the reason why I brought this up is that git is one of our main
tools for development and if we ever want kids to start developing...
The idea that including git has educational
Anish
Telescope 11 fails to start on XO-1.75 OS881
Tony
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/bin/sugar-activity, line 21, in module
main.main()
File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sugar/activity/main.py, line 158, in
main
create_activity_instance(activity_constructor,
Hi
The full context for [1] is
self.ps_watcher.log('Calling Buddy %s.GetProperties()', object_path)
in general, everything within the quote marks except %s is translatable but
this appears to be some kind of programming diagnostic message and the
universal language of programming is English
Looking into it further
I have looked at the Analyze output and the diagnostic print out had the text
from [1] preceded by a line
GetBuddies() returned dbus
where GetBuddies() is a procedure name in the program which is invariant in
different languages
On that basis, it makes more sense
maybe translate none of the strings that appear in the log window
just translate table headings where it makes sense in the context of a French
speaking programmer?
Hi Chris, Gary, Tony
Le dimanche 18 septembre 2011 Ã 09:17 +1000, fors...@ozonline.com.au a
écrit :
Hi
The full
- which should be the wording of the option Firefox has ('Open Link in
New Tab')?
or just 'Open in New Tab'
- which icon should the option have (maybe a '+', maybe the Browse icon
with a +...)?
the suggestion of 'right arrow +' sounded good
- which order should the items have? The
the close icon is
not sugarized. The coloring of the tabs is not in a Sugar style and the
text does not elipsize - hence the tabs can have different sizes (see
Firefox for an example here).
Yes. Another problem is that sometimes pages have no title. The tab is very
small then and very
I updated Sugar Commander this morning. You can find the new version at:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8919415/SugarCommander-8.xo
I put the Description entry in the Journal entry file and give the entry a
MIME of text/plain.
Thanks James
Tested OK on 0.84, 0.88 and 0.92
I think that being
PS It would be fun if you could export the Journal as a text file.
The Journal entry IS a text file.
Sorry
I should have explained myself better
Not the journal entry, the journal itself, the whole journal
then you could do an analysis of what you did when accross all Activities
Tony
I have a new version of Sugar Commander which leaves a Journal entry behind.
Tested OK on 0.84.31 0.88 and 0.92
I think the Journal entry is useful
The scrollbar for description also scrolls title and tags, given that the
description will get longer and longer, the title and tags will scroll
I could use a pointer to the
install for the version having the issue.
I can't find 868au now but 869au is at
http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/olpc-au/XO/F11/10.1.3/
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Do you know what Sugar version is using Tony?
Gonzalo
os868au Sugar 0.84.31
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Hi Sugar and olpc world
What are people doing to celebrate Software Freedom Day this year?
We are having an event in our city (Auckland, NZ) and are planning to show
the XOs and if I can get some USBs then give out Sugar on a Stick. I am
hoping to find a good printer to get some posters
Sridhar
This problem also happens in sugar 0.88 373pyg
Tony
We have found a problem that could lead to data loss in the field.
General summary:
A shares an activity
B connects to A's shared instance
Collaborative work is done by A and B
A closes the activity
B continues to
Sridhar
Just thought of another option
Turtle Art can broadcast a slideshow to other laptops in a shared session
Tony
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Am I correct that removing the installed activity makes this happen?
It seems to.
Some activities (eg turtleart) are protected and cannot easily be
removed to allow a downgrade. In this case
switch to Gnome
chmod 777 Activities
in file browser show hidden files
remove Activity's
Anish
If someone can get the night mode on the camera to work, it might turn
out to be an interesting experiment ;-)
I was able to alter the camera controls, crank up the gain and get to
the noise limit but may not have enabled a specific 'night mode'
http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2651
Kevin
Thats good! Please document somewhere all the steps you took.
We should bring all the robotics/sensor stuff together somewhere. (I saw there
was free Linux software for the Picaxe too). Deployments can then choose what
I/O hardware suits them.
Tony
I have a Ti Launchpad (a $4.30 USD
copied to sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
Tony:
Here in Uruguay (as you probably already know) the �Buti� Project works
in
XO robotics through Arduino. This is certainly the most realistic option.
I liked the 'PICAXE', which I did not know!.
When I bought the LM567 also
Quoting Sridhar Dhanapalan srid...@laptop.org.au:
Is there a good way to record screencasts of a Sugar session on an XO?
The best I can find is this:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Screencast
I wrote most of that page. Screencast was buggy but I could make it
work, Sugar or
Using Browse 108.4, as distributed with OLPC OS 10.1.3, how can I
change the home page? I want the home page button to go to somewhere
else.
this might work:
webactivity.py
(3 / 1)
357 357 if os.path.isfile(_LIBRARY_PATH):
358 358
Hi
Maybe there are two concepts and two icons. One is 'create a new document' and
the other 'expose the inner workings'. A more extreme example, in the Sliderule
Activity, you can create custom sliderules with fragments of Python code. Thats
inner workings. Is a new Memorise game more like a
Hi
I think it is a good idea if students can also create lists, its another way to
learn literacy.
You are presumably concerned that students will 'cheat' by
a)looking in the word list
b)substitute an easier word list
The solutions might be
a)allow teachers and students to create encrypted
Turtle Art Arduino, at least when I last ran it, requires Firmata software in
the Arduino. So the Arduino is acting as a dumb I/O expansion board and is not
being programmed as an autonomous robot. The user is programming in TurtleArt.
I used the Arduino Duemilanove but I don't think the
The release notes describe V106 as the 'Birthday' release.
Happy birthdays, Walter and Raul
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Chat also has text to speech
it might be tapping into some common library?
Tony
The Sugar Speak activity provides a keyboard to speech function. The
learner types words, then presses enter. The text is spoken.
I'm personally not aware of a general purpose text to speech function
for the rest
Thank Mikus. Thats fantastic. Turtle Art now has text to speech
http://tonyforster.blogspot.com/2011/02/turtle-art-text-to-speech.html
Tony
Haven't sugarized espeak, but can run it from the command line:
espeak hello --stdout | aplay
mikus
I went to delete Read 88 to try to restore Read 87 and found that
erase has been disabled.
An unfortunate side effect of protected activities is that you cant downgrade
the version
The fix is to go to Gnome and delete the relevant directory in
/home/olpcActivities
Tony
Interesting...can you elaborate? (crystal radio was a childhood
obsession of mine...)
Sameer
see
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt/Using_Turtle_Art_Sensors#The_XO_as_an_audio_amplifier
I was able to build a crystal radio from XO, wire, cardboard, plastic sheet and
foil
Thanks Gary
quick and dirty is good
I will try it
Tony
Hi Tony,
On 1 Dec 2010, at 07:41, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote:
Hi all
Its been suggested that the XO could be turned into a crystal radio.
Any suggestions of an easy way to get data from the microphone socket to
the speaker?
Hi all
Its been suggested that the XO could be turned into a crystal radio.
Any suggestions of an easy way to get data from the microphone socket to the
speaker?
Tony
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Hi
Sorry if I do not fully understand this. The proposal is that an ErrorAlert
will be created which must be dismissed by its OK button. Is there any
possibility that a large number of errors can be created, each needing to be
manually dismissed?
We can improve the helpfulness of this
** Ideally we should try harder to better layer complexity in the
Write, Calculate, et al UIs so that you need to drill down to the
more complex features while the common/novice features are exposed
early at the top level — but it seams there's only so far you can
take this (Write and
Tested on 0.84, the journal is not ruined.
Tested on 0.90 the journal is not ruined
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Quoting Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com:
I have a partial draft of a textbook on the subject at
http://www.booki.cc/discovering-discovery/ It encourages XO owners to
explore on their own and find out what questions they have before we
give them answers.
I like the idea. It encourages users
Please use these builds only for reporting back 0.90 issues. There are
surely issues that are due to integration issues. Leave them for now.
How do I tell what an integration issue is? Do you only want bugs on new
features and not regressions?
Tony
Thanks S Page
That was very helpful
I have logged it as bug #2388
Tony
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 10:44 PM, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote:
I have created a Pippy program to map sea surface temperature.
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Tonyforster#Sea_Surface_Temperature_Mapping
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