Re: [Sugar-devel] Volunteer help wanted: Elections officer, marketing, story-telling, and more

[Samson Goddy]

Hello Devin,

I am happy about this:

I am so glad to do most of this, including supporting the website as I used
to FYI I am in the process of submitting a talk for PyconAfrica, with the
aim of bringing people to contribute to Sugar Labs.

On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 3:16 PM Devin Ulibarri  wrote:

> Dear Sugar community members,
>
> Sugar Labs is growing, and we need volunteer help with various tasks.
>
> To help keep track of the various roles and tasks where help is needed, I
> created the following page on our wiki:
> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Help_Wanted
> Some of the roles that I'd like to highlight are:
>
>- Elections Officer: Help run elections for Sugar Labs' board members;
>This role will receive support from myself, as ED, and the board.
>- Website help: sugarlabs.org is a static site, created with Jeckyll.
>We could use some help updating it, improving it, and documenting a 
> workflow
>- New volunteers for our Marketing Team: Help us bring Sugar Labs to
>the people!
>- Sugar Labs stories: Did participating in the Sugar Labs community
>have a positive impact on your life? If so, we'd like to help you tell that
>story. Simply send an approx. three paragraph draft, and we'll help you
>edit and publish it.
>- Don't have any time for the above? Well, the easiest way to support
>with your time is to follow us on social media and share/boost our posts.
>Help us spread the word!
>
> Best,
>
> Devin
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Google Season of Docs

[Samson Goddy]

Anyone can correct me if I am wrong. But the point of Season of Docs is

1. Generate content if none is available.
2. Very important is looking at the existing content and demystify it to
the nearest minimum (Sugar Labs needs this)

The idea for a technical writer is to simplify and transfer information
between Sugar Labs and anyone consuming the content.

To you, the content may look fine because you may not be the target, or in
this case, you are an author of some of the tools generated.

Having great doc is a demanding requirement for onboarding in open source,
and unfortunately, I can't say Sugar Labs has one(simplifications).

Also a completely different from GSoC.


On Wed, Feb 10, 2021, 9:59 AM James Cameron  wrote:

> My first question was the most important.
>
> I can't think of any documentation Sugar Labs needs that we haven't
> already got in some form or other across our sprawling web presence.
>
> I recommend against proceeding unless some documentation is needed.
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 09:42:40AM +0100, Samson Goddy wrote:
> > Hello James,
> >
> > I read the documentation, yes it looks like a grant based program this
> time
> > around.
> >
> > Just as I mentioned last year, I would love to admin the program, or be
> one of
> > the admins.
> >
> > I am working on a system in place already.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021, 9:33 AM James Cameron <[1]qu...@laptop.org> wrote:
> >
> > Indeed.  So the question becomes;
> >
> > - what documentation does Sugar Labs need (e.g. for Sugarizer, Music
> >   Blocks, or Sugar); this forms part of a project proposal,
> >
> > - who will recruit, evaluate, and onboard a technical writer?
> >
> > - who will administer the program in Sugar Labs?
> >
> > [2]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/admin-guide
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 08:48:21AM +0100, Favour Kelvin wrote:
> > > It is being organized differently this year; we have to apply for
> a grant
> > and
> > > then we find the writer we reach out directly to the writer we
> want to
> > work
> > > with, at least that is how I understood it.
> > >
> > > [1][3]https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/
> > >
> the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html?m=1
> > >
> > > [2][4]
> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/tech-writer-guide
> > >
> > > On Wed, 10 Feb 2021, 06:18 Saumya Mishra, <[3][5]
> 2017...@iiitdmj.ac.in>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I think it is a great idea. Sugar labs should take part in
> GSoD.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Saumya Mishra
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 7:05 AM James Cameron <[4][6]
> qu...@laptop.org
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > It's back.  Can we win a slot this year?  Ideas welcome.
> > >
> > > [5][7]https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/
> > >
> >  the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html
> > > [6][8]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs
> > >
> > > --
> > > James Cameron
> > > [7][9]https://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > > ___
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> > >
> > > References:
> > >
> > > [1] [14]https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/
> >
>  the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html?m=1
> > > [2] [15]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/
> > tech-writer-guide
> > > [3] mailto:[16]2017...@iiitdmj.ac.in
> > > [4] mailto:[17]qu...@laptop.org
> > > [5] [18]https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/
> > the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html
> > > [6] [19]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs
> > > [7] [20]https://quozl.linux

Re: [Sugar-devel] Google Season of Docs

[Samson Goddy]

Hello James,

I read the documentation, yes it looks like a grant based program this time
around.

Just as I mentioned last year, I would love to admin the program, or be one
of the admins.

I am working on a system in place already.


Regards

On Wed, Feb 10, 2021, 9:33 AM James Cameron  wrote:

> Indeed.  So the question becomes;
>
> - what documentation does Sugar Labs need (e.g. for Sugarizer, Music
>   Blocks, or Sugar); this forms part of a project proposal,
>
> - who will recruit, evaluate, and onboard a technical writer?
>
> - who will administer the program in Sugar Labs?
>
> https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/admin-guide
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 08:48:21AM +0100, Favour Kelvin wrote:
> > It is being organised differently this year, we have to apply for a
> grant and
> > then we find the writer we reach out directly to the writer we want to
> work
> > with, at least that is how I understood it.
> >
> > [1]https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/
> > the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html?m=1
> >
> > [2]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/tech-writer-guide
> >
> > On Wed, 10 Feb 2021, 06:18 Saumya Mishra, <[3]2017...@iiitdmj.ac.in>
> wrote:
> >
> > I think it is a great idea. Sugar labs should take part in GSoD.
> >
> > Regards
> > Saumya Mishra
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 7:05 AM James Cameron <[4]qu...@laptop.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > It's back.  Can we win a slot this year?  Ideas welcome.
> >
> > [5]https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/
> >
>  the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html
> > [6]https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs
> >
> > --
> > James Cameron
> > [7]https://quozl.linux.org.au/
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> > References:
> >
> > [1]
> https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html?m=1
> > [2] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/tech-writer-guide
> > [3] mailto:2017...@iiitdmj.ac.in
> > [4] mailto:qu...@laptop.org
> > [5]
> https://opensource.googleblog.com/2021/02/the-2021-season-of-docs-application-for-organizations-is-open.html
> > [6] https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs
> > [7] https://quozl.linux.org.au/
> > [8] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [9] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
> > [10] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [11] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] GCI discontinued - backup plan

[Samson Goddy]

Yes, Walter mentioned it at some point, looking forward in helping too.


Regards

On Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 6:43 PM Samson Goddy 
wrote:

> Yes, Walter mentioned it at some point, looking forward in helping too.
>
>
> Regards
>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 6:32 PM Jui Pradhan  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I'm aware that GCI has been discontinued and sugarlabs was a
>> participating organization before. Generally, it was around December and
>> January.
>> I remember reading a mail about the discussion on "how we might continue
>> the concept without formal support".
>> Has anything been finalized yet? Also, I would be happy to help. Do let
>> me know.
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Regards,
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Tom Gilliard

[Samson Goddy]

This is really sad for us a community, losing a very important person is no
easy for anyone. My regards to Tom's family and grateful for the work he
contributed.


- Samson
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 9:48 PM Walter Bender  wrote:

> I am saddened by the news that Tom Gilliard (satellit), long time Sugar
> contributor has passed away after a long illness.
>
> Tom was one of our most dedicated and diligent testers of Sugar builds (on
> a wide variety of GNU/Linux platforms) and a great advocate who will be
> missed.
>
> Tom's wife Virginia can be reached at sandykayak...@gmail.com
>
> -walter
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Music Blocks in the Playstore (Walter Bender)

[Samson Goddy]

Awesome, I think it needs to be properly documented then.


I need to do further testing using this tips, thanks.


Regards

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 9:26 PM Sumit Srivastava 
wrote:

> Hi Samson,
>
> It works offline if you allow it to connect once after downloading the
> APK, which seems good because you already have internet access while
> accessing the play store. Yes, it's linked to the website but is accessible
> offline.
>
>
> Try this:
>
> Install
> Load once
> Turn off the internet
> Close app
> Restart the app
> App should work now, please post if it doesn't.
>
> Best,
> Sumit
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 1:26 AM Walter Bender 
> wrote:
>
>> Oh. We need to fix that. @Favour Kelvin 
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 3:50 PM Samson Goddy 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Awesome job,
>>>
>>> I just tested it on my tablet running Android 10 and It doesn't run
>>> offline, the APK is linked to the website. But this is a right step to
>>> something better.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 8:42 PM Lionel Laské 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good job.
>>>>
>>>> BTW I'm surprised that the package size is only 1Mb.
>>>> Is it linked to the web site? Is it able to work offline ?
>>>>
>>>> Regards.
>>>>
>>>>   Lionel.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le mar. 21 juil. 2020 à 18:00, 
>>>> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 06:21:59 -0400
>>>>> From: Walter Bender 
>>>>> To: Sugar-dev Devel 
>>>>> Subject: [Sugar-devel] Music Blocks in the Playstore
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>> >>>> uzx...@mail.gmail.com>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks to the efforts of Favour Kelvin, Music Blocks is now in the
>>>>> Google
>>>>> Play Store!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=my.musicblock.sugarlab
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks Favour.
>>>>>
>>>>> regards.
>>>>>
>>>>> -walter
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Music Blocks in the Playstore (Walter Bender)

[Samson Goddy]

Awesome job,

I just tested it on my tablet running Android 10 and It doesn't run
offline, the APK is linked to the website. But this is a right step to
something better.


Regards

On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 8:42 PM Lionel Laské  wrote:

>
> Good job.
>
> BTW I'm surprised that the package size is only 1Mb.
> Is it linked to the web site? Is it able to work offline ?
>
> Regards.
>
>   Lionel.
>
>
>
> Le mar. 21 juil. 2020 à 18:00, 
> a écrit :
>
>>
>> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2020 06:21:59 -0400
>> From: Walter Bender 
>> To: Sugar-dev Devel 
>> Subject: [Sugar-devel] Music Blocks in the Playstore
>> Message-ID:
>> > uzx...@mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Thanks to the efforts of Favour Kelvin, Music Blocks is now in the Google
>> Play Store!!!
>>
>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=my.musicblock.sugarlab
>>
>> thanks Favour.
>>
>> regards.
>>
>> -walter
>>
>> --
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Re: [Sugar-devel] MIDI input in Music Blocks

[Samson Goddy]

Sounds amazing, nice job Saksahm.

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 11:47 PM Sumit Srivastava 
wrote:

> Well done Saksham!
>
> On Sun, Jul 5, 2020, 4:13 AM Walter Bender 
> wrote:
>
>> One fun advance in GSOC is that Music Blocks now takes Midi input, so you
>> can write code by playing a Midi keyboard. I finally had a chance to test
>> it today -- my grandson has a Midi-2-USB cable for his electronic keyboard.
>> Worked great.
>>
>> Tip of the hat to Saksahm.
>>
>> -walter
>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] Music Blocks in Peru

[Samson Goddy]

Seems logical that they adopt sugarizer and Congratulations Walter on MB.


Regards

On Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 4:12 PM Lionel Laské  wrote:

>
> Good news. Congrats!
> Could explain a recent increase of Sugarizer download coming from Peru on
> Play store:
> https://twitter.com/SugarizerApp/status/1256162599168851974?s=20
>
> Regards.
>
>   Lionel.
>
> https://twitter.com/SugarizerApp/status/1256162599168851974?s=20
> https://twitter.com/SugarizerApp/status/1256162599168851974?s=20
> https://twitter.com/SugarizerApp/status/1256162599168851974?s=20
>
> Le ven. 3 juil. 2020 à 15:03, Walter Bender  a
> écrit :
>
>> Not sure it merits discussion at the SLOB meeting, but I wanted to give
>> everyone a heads up that the ministry of education in Peru will be
>> distributing on the order of 80 Android tablets to children in the
>> coming months. They will be including Music Blocks (translated into Aymara
>> and Quechua). I've been discussing the possibility of including Sugarizer
>> in future releases as well.
>>
>> regards.
>>
>> -walter
>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Debian Advocacy for Sugar - Update - 19-June-2020

[Samson Goddy]

Nice work

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020, 4:39 PM Saumya Mishra <2017...@iiitdmj.ac.in> wrote:

> Hello Shaan,
>
> Nice work. I have also tested fructose activities on Ubuntu 20.04 with
> sucrose package version 0.117 , Some of the errors you mentioned are
> reproducible in following activities in Browse, Calculate and in write. I
> would suggest opening issues in GitHub repositories so that if someone
> wants to work on activities , he/she can solve them.
>
> Thanks
> Saumya
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 7:52 PM shaansubbaiah.c...@bmsce.ac.in <
> shaansubbaiah.c...@bmsce.ac.in> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>> This took quite a while, long post ahead. Testing the Fructose activities:
>> Sugar Debian
>> 0.117-3 Buster / 10.4, (unstable packages)
>>
>> Tick ✓ Cross ✕
>> Activity Start/Stop Functions Save/Restore Collaboration Interface Other
>> Browse ✕ Debian #963068  ✓ (Search bar
>> doesn’t work very well, described below) ✓ ✕ (Error in Host’s log,
>> doesn’t work, described below) ✓ Collapsing the Bookmarks bar lags/
>> causes multiple refreshes?
>> Calculate ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ (Nothing thats not tracked on Github) ✓
>> Chat ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓
>> Image Viewer ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ ✓
>> Jukebox ✓ ✓ ✓ - ✕ Multiple issues, mostly due to the OpenGL Renderer,
>> described below ✓
>> Log ✓ ✓ ✓ (Saving log as a zip) - ✓ ✓
>> Pippy ✓ ✓ ✓ - ✓ Dark mode is not applied to Pippy tabs created after
>> Dark Mode is enabled.
>> Read ✓ ✓ (Sometimes last 2 characters in a txt file are missing.
>> Described below ) ✓ ✕ (Stuck at ‘Receiving book’) ✓ ✓
>> Terminal ✓ ✓ ✓ - ✓ Warning in the activity log, described below
>> Write ✓ ✓ ✓ ✕ #40, Reported by Saumya
>>  ✓ 1. TTS ends
>> halfway through the last word.
>> 2. Default font differs for guest in collaboration #43
>> 
>> --
>>
>> *Terminal*
>>
>> /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/sugar3/activity/activityinstance.py:60: 
>> Warning: value "((GtkInputPurpose) 10)
>> " of type 'GtkInputPurpose' is invalid or out of range for property 
>> 'input-purpose' of type 'GtkInputPurpose'
>>   activity.show()
>> 1592556015.448473 DEBUG root: Activity.__canvas_map_cb
>> /usr/share/sugar/activities/Terminal.activity/terminal.py:378: Warning: 
>> value "((GtkInputPurpose) 10)" of typ
>> e 'GtkInputPurpose' is invalid or out of range for property 'input-purpose' 
>> of type 'GtkInputPurpose'
>>   index = self._notebook.append_page(box, tablabel)
>> /usr/share/sugar/activities/Terminal.activity/terminal.py:453: Warning: 
>> value "((GtkInputPurpose) 10)" of typ
>> e 'GtkInputPurpose' is invalid or out of range for property 'input-purpose' 
>> of type 'GtkInputPurpose'
>>   self._notebook.props.page = index
>>
>> *Browse*
>> All tests apart from the start/stop were done after installing
>> libglib2.0-dev package which prevented the activity from opening.
>>
>>1. Typing something in the search bar and clicking the search button
>>or hitting Enter doesn’t do anything; whereas searching through the 
>> address
>>bar works.
>>2. Typing in the address bar causes several (possibly 100’s) of
>>warnings in the activity log
>>
>>(sugar-activity3:7184): Gtk-WARNING **: 16:25:08.511: Failed to set text 
>> from markup due to error parsing mar
>>kup: Error on line 2: Entity did not end with a semicolon; most likely 
>> you used an ampersand character withou
>>t intending to start an entity — escape ampersand as &
>>
>>
>> *Jukebox*
>>
>>1. Moving the OpenGL renderer window around creates a Windows XP-like
>>Solitare effect
>>2. Closing the OpenGL renderer window throws an error in the Jukebox
>>log
>>
>>1592561580.133608 ERROR root: ERROR MESSAGE: gst-resource-error-quark: 
>> Quit requested (3)
>>1592561580.133807 ERROR root: ERROR DETAIL: gstglimagesink.c(1781): 
>> gst_glimage_sink_show_frame (): /GstPipel
>>
>> ine:pipeline0/GstPlayBin:playbin0/GstPlaySink:playsink/GstBin:vbin/GstAutoVideoSink:videosink/GstGLImageSinkB
>>in:videosink-actual-sink-glimage/GstGLImageSink:sink
>>
>>3. Seeking ahead or back causes the OpenGL visualization to freeze,
>>takes quite some time to recover, or doesn’t recover at all.
>>4.
>>
>>Clicking the full-screen button causes another OpenGL visualization
>>of the same size to spawn on the left of the previous visualization, which
>>is now frozen.
>>5.
>>
>>Sometimes while closing and playing songs in the playlist a huge
>>amount of warnings appear in the jukebox log, not sure how to reproduce
>>properly.
>>
>> 1592562307.413873 ERROR root: ERROR MESSAGE: gst-resource-error-quark: Quit 
>> requested (3)
>> 1592562307.414180 ERROR root: ERROR DETAIL: gstglimagesink.c(1781): 
>> gst_glimage_sink_show_frame (): 
>> /GstPipeline:pipeline0/GstPlayBin:playbin0/GstPlaySink:playsink/GstBin:vbin/GstAutoVideoSink:videosink/GstGLImageSinkBin:videosink-actual-

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] FYI: GCI is discontinued

[Samson Goddy]

I am interested in helping to work on this idea too and I think it will be
a good idea to get this going.


Regards

On Thu, Jun 11, 2020, 1:50 PM Walter Bender  wrote:

> A few of us have been discussing how we might continue the concept without
> formal Google support. Stay tuned.
>
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 2:58 AM Hrishi Patel 
> wrote:
>
>> That is extremely sad. I read that email, I have so many good memories
>> with GCI.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2020, 2:25 AM Devin Ulibarri 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Members of the GCI Mentors mailing list received this message today
>>> from Stephanie T. of Google.
>>>
>>> Some of you may not be on that list, but interested to know so I am
>>> copying it here.
>>>
>>> Thanks to everyone for all their efforts (and hacking) over the years
>>> for GCI with SL!
>>>
>>> > Hi GCI Mentors and Org Admins,
>>> >
>>> > Google Code-in concluded 10 amazing, productive, exhilarating years
>>> > in January. This program has been a success because of the amazing
>>> > energy and passion all of you have exhibited; volunteering dozens,
>>> > hundreds, and in some cases, thousands(!) of hours to help 14,700+
>>> > teenagers, from 115+ countries, complete a whopping 76,200+ open
>>> > source tasks, during the past 10 years!
>>> >
>>> > We wanted all of you to be among the first to know that Google Code-
>>> > in 2019 was our final Google Code-in contest. We've been looking hard
>>> > at our portfolio of programs and as open source evolves, our programs
>>> > need to evolve too. We've decided to focus our efforts on Google
>>> > Summer of Code and programs like Season of Docs that meet projects'
>>> > sustainability needs going into the next 10 years of open source.
>>> >
>>> > We want to thank you all for being inspiring role models to these
>>> > students. Many of you were GCI or GSoC students yourselves and have
>>> > been paying it forward for years by helping teenagers discover their
>>> > passion for open source software development. The extent of your
>>> > support was something many didn’t expect when they first started out
>>> > trying to complete a few tasks to earn a Google T-shirt.
>>> >
>>> > You have welcomed students into your communities and shown them how
>>> > open source is making the world a better place and how they can be a
>>> > part of that. You all have inspired, taught, listened, and made a
>>> > difference in the lives of thousands of students. THANK YOU! These
>>> > students have brought fresh new perspectives and ideas into your
>>> > communities, inspiring long-term committers with their enthusiasm,
>>> > curiosity and skills.
>>> >
>>> > Many of you have been mentors for all 10 years of GCI (plus GHOP!),
>>> > while others came into the GCI family just this past year. Regardless
>>> > of when you joined, thank you all for showing immense kindness,
>>> > patience, dedication, organization and guidance to the students, the
>>> > other mentors in our GCI community, and to me and the rest of our
>>> > team over the years.
>>> >
>>> > These past 10 years of Google Code-in have been an exciting,
>>> > adrenaline pumping adventure – thanks for coming along on the ride
>>> > with us!
>>> >
>>> > We will continue to be dedicated to helping open source communities
>>> > be sustainable and finding new contributors is an essential part of
>>> > those efforts. While Google Code-in is now officially retired, we
>>> > look forward to finding new ways to support your communities.
>>> >
>>> > Best,
>>> > Stephanie Taylor
>>> > GCI Program Lead
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Community Bonding Period - Music Blocks JS Export

[Samson Goddy]

This is great.

On Sun, May 31, 2020, 12:08 PM Walter Bender 
wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 1:39 AM Anindya Kundu 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Coming to the end of the Community Bonding period, I want to sum up my
>> initial progress on my project during the period, and my plans ahead as the
>> official Coding Period begins.
>>
>> I had several meetings with my mentor, Walter, and other members of the
>> Music Blocks group for this year's GSoC. Walter walked me through some of
>> the complex functions, and we discussed on how to proceed.
>>
>> During the period, I've worked on the ES6 port, to clean up the code and
>> make it ready for further work. Specifically, I've completely refactored
>> logo.js and turtle.js, which are most important to my project. In
>> addition, I've done a lot of cleanup w.r.t whitespaces, comments, short
>> statements, etc. And, I'm satisfied that the files are in a good condition
>> for me to start with. In addition, I've separated out note execution
>> related behaviour to an external class named NoteController.
>>
>> In the upcoming weeks, I'll primarily be focused on separation of Model,
>> View, and Controller from logo.js and turtle.js. For better modular
>> behaviour, I've conceptualised 5 models and 4 controllers. The
>> NoteController, mentioned above, is an experimental feature which needs
>> further discussion; I intend to carry it out in parallel in the coming week.
>>
>> I'm keeping a log, and all my progress is maintained in a GitHub project
>>  created in my
>> fork of Music Blocks. It has 5 columns: Milestones, To do, In progress,
>> Done, and Plans. Milestones keeps track of my overall progress and
>> upcoming goals, Plans keeps note of my conceptualised ideas, while the
>> rest keep track (archived after milestone achieved) of intermediate
>> progress.
>>
>> Thank You.
>>
>> *Anindya Kundu*
>>
>>
> Great progress so far. I think you are laying the foundation for a
> successful project.
>
> regards.
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] happy birthday Sugar Labs

[Samson Goddy]

Yay🎊🎊🎊🎉🎉🎉

On Fri, May 15, 2020, 8:43 PM Sumit Srivastava 
wrote:

> Whoohoo!
> ᐧ
>
> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:17 PM Vipul Gupta 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> @vipulgupta2048
>>
>> On Fri 15 May, 2020, 6:07 PM Walter Bender, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> :)
>>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC 2020 five month plans

[Samson Goddy]

Hello James,

I will be able to commit on this year's GSoC.


Regards

On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 7:07 AM James Cameron  wrote:

> Hello mentors,
>
> Stephanie wrote:
>
> > The world is certainly in upheaval right now and there is a lot of
> > stress for everyone so we want everyone to be safe and take care of
> > themselves and their families. This may mean priorities for some
> > mentors and org admins change and they may no longer be able to
> > commit to being a part of GSoC 2020, we understand that and we
> > support you making the best decisions for your families.  We just
> > ask you to communicate with the org admins so they can better plan
> > for what the next 5 months will look like for your community and its
> > participation in GSoC.
>
> Given the new circumstances, please confirm you are still able to
> commit to GSoC for 2020?
>
> Can you dedicate six hours a week?
>
> Please keep Walter and myself informed.
>
> Also, please do your mentoring in public as much as possible, so we
> can cover for you and watch out for missing mentors.
>
> Welcome to Rahul.  We have 15 mentors listed on the dashboard, and
> we're waiting for Devin and Sumit to respond to the Google invitation
> message.
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel] Proposal: moving "assisting mentors" back to role for GSoC 2020

[Samson Goddy]

Hello everyone,

The quicker we understand that Sugar Labs is an "educational project," then
the better for us, we have been battling on matters that in "my opinion" is
pointless.  That said, First, I don't understand the whole point for
labeling someone an "assistant mentor," this is a community we need to be
sensitive to what put out there. First, I listed myself as an "assistant
mentor" not because I cannot code, but because I am focusing on the other
part of the "community" which is keeping things healthy and welcoming, we
are all volunteers, we should respect that fact.

Honestly removing me from GSoC because of "expect the previous assistant
mentors to either promote themselves to the position of mentor by showing
their expertise or be content with participation within the wider Sugar
Labs community." At the same time, I can easily prove that by sending PRs,
I don't think the same applies to folks that cannot code, again I wasn't
born in the 80s, but I am sure in 2020, there is more aspect to software
than just coding. Let us stop doing things that will drive folks away;
everyone is important.


I am not an org admin; I grew up with Sugar, correctly understand how Sugar
was created but chose to focus primarily on something that will keep "Sugar
Labs" healthy. I don't see how having extra folks into a project as
"mentors" will hurt the student performance. It gives the student a more
broad knowledge of what to do to make the project usable, maintainable, and
scalable.


We have more important things to focus on than argue about assistant
mentorship.

Regards

On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 12:23 PM Lionel Laské 
wrote:

>
> Hi James,
>
> Thanks for this.
>
> I think that assisting mentor notion has no sense.
> We need to have one mentor that lead the project with some co-mentors to
> supply him when/if he's unavailable. Each mentor could ask help or advice
> to other members of the community if needed, we don't need to identify
> these guys as "Assisting mentor".
>
> As Stephanie said in the thread you mention: "Unfortunately some people
> want to be a mentor because they think it will look good on their resume,
> these are not the folks you want to be mentoring students.". I'm afraid
> it's the same thing with "Assisting mentor".
>
> Regards.
>
>   Lionel.
>
>
> Le ven. 13 mars 2020 à 08:31,  a
> écrit :
>
>>
>> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 16:55:16 +1100
>> From: James Cameron 
>> To: sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
>> Subject: [Sugar-devel] Proposal: moving "assisting mentors" back to
>> the community role for GSoC 2020
>> Message-ID: <20200313055516.gm28...@laptop.org>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> Walter and I are your organisation administrators for GSoC 2020.
>>
>> On the GSoc Mentors mailing list from 8th March and still going is a
>> thread "Deadline to invite mentors" which morphed into the expertise
>> required of mentors to do a project [1].
>>
>> After putting forward the Sugar Labs compromise practice of "coding
>> mentors" and "assistant mentors", there has been both criticism and
>> support for the practice from other organisation administrators.  The
>> criticism has been voluminous and well stated.  The support
>> comparatively muted.
>>
>> I'd like to hear what the Sugar Labs community thinks now.
>>
>> The effect of the change [2] can be seen here [3].
>>
>> In implementing the change we would;
>>
>> - require _all_ project communication to be carried out in the open,
>>   on GitHub, mailing list, or IRC,
>>
>> - expect the previous assistant mentors to either promote themselves
>>   to the position of mentor by showing their expertise, or be content
>>   with participation within the wider Sugar Labs community.
>>
>> - remove from the dashboard the previous assistant mentors who are no
>>   longer listed against a project,
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>>
>> References:
>>
>> 1.
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-summer-of-code-mentors-list/CAJzXzVEkw%2BOT6nSXvTraNaNqNdR6h0mbjFtaejJcUnueU4YX4Q%40mail.gmail.com
>>
>> 2.  https://github.com/sugarlabs/GSoC/pull/94
>>
>> 3.  https://github.com/sugarlabs/GSoC/tree/simplify
>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [IAEP] Oversight Board Elections 2019-21 has begun!

[Samson Goddy]

Same here too

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 11:34 PM Martin Abente <
martin.abente.lah...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Seems to work fine :)
>
> In case someone has an unmanageable inbox like myself, just search for
> "sugar labs election" and you should find it.
>
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 7:24 PM Chihurumnaya Ibiam <
> ibiamchihurumn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Agreed, I didn't make the suggestion earlier as I'm part of the people
>> who have access to the alias, kindly remove every one who's a candidate
>> from the alias.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2020, 10:53 PM James Cameron  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Vipul.
>>>
>>> It works, I voted.
>>>
>>> Please add memb...@sugarlabs.org and sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org to the
>>> election results destination?  This will be more transparent.  We had
>>> memb...@sugarlabs.org on the results destination in previous years.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 11:21:13PM +0530, Vipul Gupta wrote:
>>> > Hello folks,
>>> > The Oversight Board election 2019-21 is upon us. In your inboxes, you
>>> would
>>> > have received a unique email from CIVS or [1]c...@cs.cornell.edu with
>>> the
>>> > options to poll for the candidates.
>>> >
>>> > The poll is open from 15th January 2020 to 31st January 2020. You can
>>> find more
>>> > information on the candidates here [2]https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/
>>> > Oversight_Board/2019-2021-candidates.
>>> >
>>> > Please check your spam folders or promotions if you can't find it. Add
>>> the
>>> > email address to your contact list and mark as not spam when you find
>>> it.
>>> > As always, looking forward to hearing any questions you all would
>>> have. Do cast
>>> > your vote!
>>> >
>>> > Best,
>>> > Vipul Gupta
>>> > [3]Mixster | [4]Github
>>> >
>>> > References:
>>> >
>>> > [1] mailto:c...@cs.cornell.edu
>>> > [2] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2019-2021-candidates
>>> > [3] https://mixstersite.wordpress.com/
>>> > [4] https://github.com/vipulgupta2048
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Regarding Stand at FOSDEM [1-2 February]

[Samson Goddy]

Yes, James there is a need to get some funding and also coordination.

On Wed, Dec 4, 2019, 12:26 AM James Cameron  wrote:

> What for?  Is funding or coordination needed?
>
> On Tue, Dec 03, 2019 at 05:47:53PM -0500, Walter Bender wrote:
> > We should bring this up at the SLOB meeting.
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 3:50 PM Vipul Gupta <[1]vipulgupta2...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Samson,
> > That's awesome. Looking forward to catching up if I can make it.
> > Still figuring out a feasible way to reach FOSDEM. I have been
> consistently
> > missing out on events.
> > Let me know if you can help out with the stands.
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 2:02 AM Samson Goddy <[2]
> samsongo...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hello Vipul,
> >
> > Thanks for the update, I am sure, I might be in Belgium for
> Sustain
> > Summit and hopefully be around for FOSSDEM, I am not sure if
> anyone
> > from the community will be coming, but it will be great to have
> > something from Sugar Lab there.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 9:26 PM Vipul Gupta <[3]
> vipulgupta2...@gmail.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> > Hello folks,
> > Loving the energy of Google Code-In!
> > FOSDEM [0] is one of the biggest conferences for open-source
> > software developers with over 600+ lectures, 80+ projects and
> > thousands of people that participate in it. It's taking
> place in
> > Brussels / 1 & 2 February 2020. There are many projects,
> > organizations, and companies that are a part of it every
> year. I am
> > very happy to announce that Sugar Labs has been selected for
> the
> > Stands event at FOSDEM [4][1] Very much like, what we had at
> PyCon
> > US but larger. FOSDEM is one of the few conferences that I
> think
> > will be a great opportunity for us to be representing Sugar
> Labs on
> > a global platform with some of the biggest FOSS projects on
> > display.
> >
> > Let me know what you all think, and yeah! let's do work
> towards
> > making it a big success!
> >
> > Best,
> > Vipul Gupta
> > @vipulgupta2048
> >
> > [0] - [5]https://fosdem.org/
> > [1] - [6]
> https://fosdem.org/2020/news/2019-11-19-accepted-stands/
> >
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> > [4] https://fosdem.org/2020/news/2019-11-19-accepted-stands/
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Regarding Stand at FOSDEM [1-2 February]

[Samson Goddy]

Hello Vipul,

Thanks for the update, I am sure, I might be in Belgium for Sustain Summit
and hopefully be around for FOSSDEM, I am not sure if anyone from the
community will be coming, but it will be great to have something from Sugar
Lab there.


Regards

On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 9:26 PM Vipul Gupta  wrote:

> Hello folks,
> Loving the energy of Google Code-In!
> FOSDEM [0] is one of the biggest conferences for open-source software
> developers with over 600+ lectures, 80+ projects and thousands of people
> that participate in it. It's taking place in Brussels / 1 & 2 February
> 2020. There are many projects, organizations, and companies that are a part
> of it every year. I am very happy to announce that *Sugar Labs* has been
> selected for the *Stands event* at FOSDEM [1]
> <https://fosdem.org/2020/news/2019-11-19-accepted-stands/> Very much
> like, what we had at PyCon US but larger. FOSDEM is one of the few
> conferences that I think will be a great opportunity for us to be
> representing Sugar Labs on a global platform with some of the biggest FOSS
> projects on display.
>
> Let me know what you all think, and yeah! let's do work towards making it
> a big success!
>
> Best,
> Vipul Gupta
> @vipulgupta2048
>
> [0] - https://fosdem.org/
> [1] - https://fosdem.org/2020/news/2019-11-19-accepted-stands/
>


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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] From OLPC XO To Positivo: Rwanda Sets The Bar Higher

[Samson Goddy]

Hi Alex,

I think the best thing is to physically go to Rwanda, which I think can be
of great value to Sugar Labs. I have been talking to some folks that
support Rwanda and of recent Mariana Ludmila. We have no idea how they use
Sugar, improving Sugar based on feedbacks from deployment like Rwanda will
be worth investing in.

It something I raised with Walter, like planning TA day as a way to get
access to these teachers and users. Maybe Tony can give us more details.

Sugar Labs should be paying attention to deployments.


My thoughts.




On Mon, Nov 25, 2019, 8:46 PM Alex Perez  wrote:

> It would be good and helpful to attempt to make contact with anyone within
> Rwanda that is using Sugar on Positivos, official or otherwise, but also
> anyone who is involved with the official distribution of Positivos within
> Rwanda. Can you help us on this front, Samson?
>
> Walter Bender 
> November 25, 2019 at 6:57 AM
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 4:38 AM Tony Anderson 
> wrote:
>
>> The current school year in Rwanda is just ending and the new year starts
>> January 6. The Positivos have been distributed to GS (Groupe Scolaire)
>> schools which are public with grades from entry to S3 (9th grade).
>>
>> The ICT Curriculum is based on Windows - with some planned expansion to
>> include mobile techniques. The Positivos are distributed with Windows 10
>> installed.  Neither the Positivos or XOs currently include touch screen
>> technology.
>>
>> Note: as far as I know, Rwanda is the largest still active XO
>> deployment. The need is to find a bridge between the student's three
>> years of primary school XO experience and their further ICT
>> instruction.The Positivo hard drive is large enough to support an
>> Ubuntu/Sugar install alongside.. Some teachers are making this install
>> on their own initiative. The article hints that Rwanda may take official
>> advantage of this opportunity.
>>
>
> Please let us know if there is anything we can do to support this effort.
>
>
>> I am currently in Rwanda working with Care 4 Kids, a German philanthropy
>> supporting the use of the XO. Care 4 Kids provides interns - local A
>> Level graduates in ICT to selected schools. In 2019 these interns
>> supported five GS schools in Kigali province (XO ICT enrollment in the
>> thousands). In 2020, there will be five two-person teams of interns.
>> Four teams supporting  a school in one of the provinces and working with
>> teachers from five surrounding schools. The Kigali team will continue to
>> support the five 2019 schools. Their support provided in the native
>> language has proven effective and popular.
>>
>
> Is there a translation team we could tap into?
>
> As far as bridging the two worlds, some of our apps could be gateways,
> such as Music Blocks, which run just as well in Windows as Sugar.
>
>
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> On 25/11/2019 01:56, James Cameron wrote:
>> > Thanks Samson.
>> >
>> > For Sugar Labs, the most important part is "the machines will have the
>> > same modules (interface) for children lesson," so there's an
>> > opportunity for Sugar Labs to remain involved.
>> >
>> > I don't know what operating system REB are using, but OLPC OS 18.04.0
>> > based on Ubuntu 18.04.2 and Sugar will likely work straight away on
>> > PC-compatible laptops, and can be customised and rebuilt.  Our OLPC
>> > servers do see update requests from countries were we have not
>> > distributed our PC-compatible laptops, which is cool.
>> >
>> > On Sun, Nov 24, 2019 at 12:17:21PM +0100, Samson Goddy wrote:
>> >> Hello everyone,
>> >>
>> >> I saw this article online, and I thought it should be an interesting
>> read[1].
>> >>
>> >> [1][1]https://ktpress.rw/2019/11/
>> >> from-olpc-xo-to-positivo-rwanda-sets-the-bar-higher/
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >>Samson Goddy
>> >>
>> >>Twitter: [2]https://twitter.com/samson_goddy
>> >>Email: [3]samsongo...@sugarlabs.org
>> >>[4]samsongo...@gmail.com
>> >>
>> >>Website: [5]https://samsongoddy.me/
>> >>
>> >> References:
>> >>
>> >> [1]
>> https://ktpress.rw/2019/11/from-olpc-xo-to-positivo-rwanda-sets-the-bar-higher/
>> >> [2] https://twitter.com/samson_goddy
>> >> [3] mailto:samsongo...@sugarlabs.org
>> >> [4] mailto:samsongo...@gmail.com
>> >> [5] h

Re: [Sugar-devel] FYI, Tincho blog

[Samson Goddy]

I saw some updates from Twitter. Great push.

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wrote:

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> https://blogs.gnome.org/tchx84/2019/11/22/linux-app-summit-2019-and-sugar-learning-tools/
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[Sugar-devel] From OLPC XO To Positivo: Rwanda Sets The Bar Higher

[Samson Goddy]

Hello everyone,

I saw this article online, and I thought it should be an interesting
read[1].


[1]
https://ktpress.rw/2019/11/from-olpc-xo-to-positivo-rwanda-sets-the-bar-higher/

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Re: [Sugar-devel] (no subject)

[Samson Goddy]

Yes, it is down. I tested it and someone also reported similar issue.


On Tue, Nov 12, 2019, 8:23 AM Deepak Kumar  wrote:

> Hi James,
> I think that this link is broken
> http://translate.sugarlabs.org/
> Could you please add the link to the repository of this project as I
> couldn't find it on sugarlabs repo. As I have good knowledge of Python and
> done some projects using Django as a backend too so I think that I can help
> with this project.
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Tue, 12 Nov 2019, 11:45 am James Cameron,  wrote:
>
>> Welcome Rahul.  You can find in the mailing list archives my "How to
>> get started as a Sugar Labs developer [v7]",
>>
>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2019-September/057182.html
>>
>> Music Blocks and Sugarizer are web apps written in JavaScript.
>>
>> activities.sugarlabs.org is a web app written in PHP.
>>
>> translate.sugarlabs.org is a web app written in Python with Django.
>>
>> (but is not working).
>>
>> You can work on whatever you want to work on, and if what you make is
>> good, we may keep it.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 11:23:01AM +0530, Rahul kohli wrote:
>> > Please help me as I am a new here I want to know about sugarlabs and
>> how can i
>> > get started and also I want to work on web app of sugar labs so how can
>> i work
>> > on that too..
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] GCI 2019

[Samson Goddy]

Awesome news.

On Tue, Oct 29, 2019, 6:30 PM ANIKET MATHUR  wrote:

> Congrats, that's great😀
>
> On Tue, 29 Oct 2019, 10:42 pm Amaan Iqbal, 
> wrote:
>
>> Amazing!
>> Congratulations to us!
>>
>> On Oct 29, 2019 10:39 PM, "Jaskirat Singh" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Awesome.
>>>
>>> On Tue, 29 Oct 2019, 10:37 pm Walter Bender, 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Sugar Labs has been selected as a Google Code-in 2019 mentor
 organization.
 I'll send some details this evening.

 regards.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Sugar on Fedora 31

[Samson Goddy]

Awesome, I am downloading it now.



On Fri, Oct 18, 2019, 9:10 AM Peter Robinson  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Just a reminder we're in final freeze for Fedora 31, I'm assuming
> people are testing it.
>
> Just a reminder you can get the latest nightly composes here:
>
> https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose/branched/latest-Fedora-31/compose/Spins/x86_64/iso/
>
> https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose/branched/latest-Fedora-31/compose/Spins/armhfp/images/
>
> We have slipped a week so if there's fixes needed we basically need
> them by Monday.
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Google Code-in 2019

[Samson Goddy]

Excited to hear that we are applying this year. I am interested to be a
mentor this year.


Regards

On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 4:12 PM Samson Goddy 
wrote:

> Excited to hear that we are applying this year. I am interested to be a
> mentor this year.
>
>
> Regards
>
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 3:04 PM Rishabh Thaney 
> wrote:
>
>> Awesome!
>> Was looking forward to this, would love to mentor again
>>
>> On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 at 7:31 PM, Arnav Mandal 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone!
>>>
>>> I hope you all are doing well. I would love to mentor sugar labs for
>>> GCI'19.
>>>
>>> As a brief introduction of myself, I am a final year student from India.
>>> I was a GSoC'19 student with AboutCode. I have worked with Amazon and
>>> Directi as well as a software developer.
>>> I have been a part of organizations such as Fossasia, JgraphT and Coala.
>>> From the past few months, I have been regularly taking part in the Sugar
>>> Labs discussion.
>>>
>>> Please let me know how to start contributing to Sugar Labs as a mentor
>>> for GCI'19.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Arnav Mandal
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 7:19 PM Vaibhav Aren 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1. I am excited to mentor again.
>>>> Did someone export last year's tasks?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 3:36 AM Sumit Srivastava <
>>>> sumitsrisu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yay! All the best to everyone involved with the ambitious mission of
>>>>> Sugar Labs!
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Sumit
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019, 3:25 AM Walter Bender 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've begun putting together our application to GCI 2019. And I have
>>>>>> created a page in the wiki with background information [2]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are interested in mentoring, please let me know (and add your
>>>>>> name to the list at the bottom of the wiki page.). Please indicate what
>>>>>> areas you wish to help with (coding, design, research, documentation, and
>>>>>> QA) and relevant experience in the Sugar Labs community.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking forward to GCI.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -walter
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://codein.withgoogle.com/
>>>>>> [2] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Google_Code_In_2019
>>>>>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] GCI 2019 Announced

[Samson Goddy]

Awesome glad to hear this.




On Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 10:13 PM Walter Bender 
wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 4:35 PM Freddie N 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Google Code-In 2019 has now been officially announced running from 2nd
>> December to 23rd January.
>>
>
> Orgs can begin applying on Oct. 10.
>
>>
>> Read more here:
>> https://opensource.googleblog.com/2019/09/google-code-in-2019-is-right-around_23.html
>>
>> The dates are even later this year.
>>
>> It has been very successful at encouraging open source within Sugar Labs
>> for many years with contributors still around from the first year we
>> entered.
>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] could be a nice opportunity for Sugar

[Samson Goddy]

Great. Exciting news.

On Tue, Sep 3, 2019, 1:56 AM Walter Bender  wrote:

>
> https://www.aboutchromebooks.com/news/crostini-linux-for-chromebooks-distro-menu-debian-fedora-ubuntu/
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] GCI summit

[Samson Goddy]

Great one.



Regards

On Fri, Jun 28, 2019, 3:05 AM Walter Bender  wrote:

> Just got back from the GCI summit where I had the pleasure of meeting our
> grand-prize winners, Austin and Freddie (See attached image). Lots of great
> talks at Google, and continued enthusiasm  for Sugar and Sugar Labs.
>
> I did discuss with the Google Open Source team that Sugar Labs is spinning
> out of the SFC. They didn't see any issues regarding our continued
> participation in GCI, GSoC and other Google-sponsored programs.
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] GCI summit travel

[Samson Goddy]

+1 from me.



On Wed, May 29, 2019, 3:44 AM James Cameron  wrote:

> I approve.
>
> On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 10:07:04PM -0400, Walter Bender wrote:
> > I've been selected by the GCI winners to represent SL at the summit next
> month.
> > Google has provided US $1500 for travel (all other expenses are directly
> > covered by Google.) I anticipate that the total cost of my trip will be
> < US
> > $1000. I'd like approval from SLOB before booking my flight.
> >
> > regards.
> >
> > -walter
> >
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> > [2]
> >
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Debian 10 (Buster)?

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Hello James,

I think you replied to the thread already.


On Wed, May 15, 2019, 9:59 PM James Cameron  wrote:

> Hey Samson, yes, missed it, where was it?
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 09:39:30AM -0700, Samson Goddy wrote:
> > Hello Alex and James,
> >
> > I guess you both miss this thread. Can you please guide Jeff on how to
> get
> > started?
> >
> > On Fri, May 10, 2019, 8:14 AM Jeff Elkner <[1]jeff.elk...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Sugar Labs Devs,
> >
> > I am a high school / community college computer science teacher in
> > Arlington Virginia who was an active member of the OLPC project for
> > years and who would like to rejoin the community.
> >
> > I am convinced being able to run the Sugar desktop on the same
> > underlying OS (Debian) as Raspbian uses is the key to that working
> for
> > me.
> >
> > I tried creating a basic buster install and then running:
> >
> > $ sudo apt install sugar sucrose lightdm
> >
> > The result is not a usable Sugar installation.  I am most eager to
> > participate as a tester, power user, and curriculum developer, but I
> > need to start with a working system.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Jeff Elkner
> >
> > Let's work together to create a just and sustainable world!
> >
> > References:
> >
> > [1] mailto:jeff.elk...@gmail.com
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Debian 10 (Buster)?

[Samson Goddy]

Hello Alex and James,

I guess you both miss this thread. Can you please guide Jeff on how to get
started?



On Fri, May 10, 2019, 8:14 AM Jeff Elkner  wrote:

> Dear Sugar Labs Devs,
>
> I am a high school / community college computer science teacher in
> Arlington Virginia who was an active member of the OLPC project for
> years and who would like to rejoin the community.
>
> I am convinced being able to run the Sugar desktop on the same
> underlying OS (Debian) as Raspbian uses is the key to that working for
> me.
>
> I tried creating a basic buster install and then running:
>
> $ sudo apt install sugar sucrose lightdm
>
> The result is not a usable Sugar installation.  I am most eager to
> participate as a tester, power user, and curriculum developer, but I
> need to start with a working system.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jeff Elkner
>
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC 2019 - Welcome to Sugar Labs

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Congratulations to all the students and mentors.


Regards.

Samson

On Mon, May 6, 2019, 9:36 PM Rahul Bothra  wrote:

> Here is the list of selected projects for GSoC' 19,
>
> * Improve Sugarizer Server Dashboard;
>   Student: Nikhil Mehra
>   Mentors: Lionel Laské, Tarun Kumar Singhal
>
> * Create a Sugar Dashboard
>   Student: Hrishi Patel
>   Mentors: Rahul Bothra, Peace Ojemeh, Chihurumnaya Ibiam
>
> * Performance in MusicBlocks
>   Student: Favour Kelvin
>   Mentors: Sumit Srivastava, Devin Ulibarri, Walter Bender
>
> * Create Write Activity for Sugarizer
>   Student: Ashish Aggarwal
>   Mentors: Michaël Ohayon, Tarun Kumar Singhal
>
> * Improve and Maintain 25 Sugar Activities
>   Student: Swarup N
>   Mentors: Rahul Bothra, Chihurumnaya Ibiam, James Cameron
>
> * Expand Sugarizer’s Exerciser Activity
>   Student: Avinash Agarwal
>   Mentors: Michaël Ohayon, Lionel Laské
>
> * Reconciling rhythm with pitch in Music Blocks widgets
>   Student: Sparsh Agarwal
>   Mentors: Sumit Srivastava, Devin Ulibarri, Walter Bender
>
> * Performance in Music Blocks
>   Student: Ankur Bambharoliya
>   Mentors: Sumit Srivastava, Devin Ulibarri, Walter Bender
>
> * Port Sugar to Python 3
>   Student: Aniket Mahur
>   Mentors: Rahul Bothra, James Cameron
>
> Regards,
> Rahul Bothra
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 11:32 PM Rahul Bothra  wrote:
>
>> Greetings everyone,
>>
>> Congratulations to the 9 students selected for GSoC 2019 with Sugar Labs.
>> We
>> hope that you are as excited as we are. We had some great proposals to go
>> through and yours' really stood out.
>>
>> Here are a few things to get you onboard,
>> 1. Please subscribe to sugar-devel if you haven't already,
>> See http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>>
>> 2. Contact your project mentors to get started. Decide a weekly meeting
>> time
>> which suits you and your mentors. Regular communication is an integral
>> part of
>> working on a project of this scale.
>> It can be tempting to communicate in private, but please use public
>> forums like
>> #sugar, #sugar-meeting, or @sugar-devel while communicating, so that other
>> community members can also join in.
>>
>> 3. You are required to write weekly blog posts about your GSoC progress.
>> You
>> can start off by setting a blog up if you haven't already. Reply to this
>> thread with
>> the link to your blog.
>>
>> 4. We'll be having a weekly group meeting on #sugar-meeting, where all
>> mentors and students will discuss their progress. Since we have people
>> from
>> Australia, France, India, Nigeria, and the US (pardon me if I've missed
>> anyone),
>> it'll be difficult to find a time suitable for everyone. Reply to this
>> thread with your
>> preference of time. Here are a few suggested options,
>> * Monday 4:30 PM UTC / 10:00 PM IST
>> * Monday 6:30 PM UTC / 12:00 PM IST
>>
>> 5. If you have any issues with your mentor, or otherwise during the GSoC
>> project, please feel free to get in touch with the GSoC Org Admins. They
>> are
>> James , Rahul , and Walter
>> .
>>
>> Welcome to Sugar Labs.
>> Looking forward to a productive summer with you guys
>>
>> Regards,
>> Rahul Bothra
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Outreach Plans 2019 - PyCon Cleveland

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Hi Tony,

I agree with you. Are you coming to Pycon?


Regards

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 9:55 AM Tony Anderson  wrote:

> What Sugar Labs needs to survive is users. If our count of active users
> reaches zero, there will be no need for developers (or Sugar Labs).
>
> A Conference like PyCon is an opportunity to show that Sugar is a viable
> educational platform. So marketing does not need to be concerned about
> $, it needs to be concerned about the characteristics of Sugar that make
> it an attractive option for educators. At such a conference it is
> possible to make presentations - ofen there is an educational track.
> More importantly there is an opportunity to have an exhibit (booth).
> This booth can provide many examples of Sugar running on platforms other
> than the XO (make sure there some XO pictures visible since this
> attracts interest to a booth.) Sugarizer can demonstrate that Sugar is
> available for smartphones, tablets and other devices. Sugar can show its
> capabilities on Ubuntu, Raspbian. Windows is a special case since
> Miccrosoft has been able to lock educators into Windows. Showing that
> Sugar is viable in a Windows-based deployment may be beyond our current
> cabability.
>
> Our goal should be to attract new contributors and to find new
> deployment opportunities.
>
> Tony
>
> On 4/15/19 2:28 PM, James Cameron wrote:
> > You've all had an interesting discussion.  I'll add my points now; in
> > the form of questions and answers.
> >
> >
> > Q: are there funds available for marketing?
> >
> > A: in motion 2019-01 on 4th January, the Oversight Board preserved the
> > GSoC 2018 mentor stipends for marketing,
> >
> >
> > Q: are there any other funds available for marketing?
> >
> > A: yes, the Oversight Board could spend up to about $90k, but such a
> > spend would have to have compelling justification.  Swag isn't
> > compelling.
> >
> >
> > Q: have funds been spent on marketing?
> >
> > A: yes, the Oversight Board agreed to spend money on travel for two
> > members to PyCon 2019.
> >
> >
> > Q: how will the rest of the funds be spent?
> >
> > A: apart from reserving funds for marketing expenses relating to
> > SCaLE, and not yet applied for, the Oversight Board has made no other
> > decision.
> >
> > However, the board has received some marketing plans, has asked for
> > changes, and will hear any proposals.
> >
> >
> > Q: will a proposal or marketing plan have greater merit if it comes
> > from a team who call themselves marketing?
> >
> > A: no, because;
> >
> > - the Oversight Board has not formed a marketing team,
> >
> > - our original marketing team, who had people qualified in marketing,
> >left long ago,
> >
> > - the Oversight Board consist of developers or other subject matter
> >experts, can see a claim for legitimacy a mile off, and discount it
> >easily,
> >
> >
> > Q: but isn't there's a marketing team on the Wiki?
> >
> > A: it is out of date.
> >
> >
> > Q: but aren't there a whole lot of teams on the Wiki?
> >
> > A: it is out of date.  Please work together with all of Sugar Labs,
> > don't look for a team.
> >
> >
> > Q: does the Software Freedom Conservancy control the funds?
> >
> > A: to a limited extent.  The Conservancy will act on decisions by the
> > Oversight Board provided those decisions are legal and follow
> > Conservancy policies, so any marketing also has to follow those
> > policies.
> >
> >
> > Comment;
> >
> > Gathering more developers who are active is our key to survival as a
> > community.  If our count of active developers reaches zero, there will
> > be a short delay and then something in the environment will change and
> > Sugar, Sugarizer or Music Blocks won't be usable.  That is one of
> > reasons why we are engaged with Google Summer of Code and Google
> > Season of Docs.
> >
> > We have some people who are interested in helping but have yet to
> > learn the skills to contribute actively.  I'd like to see that change.
> > Get started with programming, write new Sugar activities, fix
> > activities, and write documentation.
> >
> >
> > Q: what will happen if I do nothing except talk?
> >
> > A: nothing.  ;-)
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 12:58:14AM +0530, Sumit Srivastava wrote:
> >> Hi, Vipul, Jaskirat, and all members of SL community!
> >>
> >> These days I'm thinking about two things:
> >>
> >> 1. How to expand the SL developer community?
> >>
> >> 2. How do we move towards the vision for sugar labs that was discussed
> a few
> >> weeks ago in an email thread?
> >>
> >> As of now, I've some ideas for *1*, but need more inputs from everyone.
> Shall I
> >> start a new thread for new inputs?
> >>
> >> And yes, I'm constantly thinking about how can we make great things
> happen in
> >> the community. Glad that you noticed.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Sumit
> >>
> >> On Sun, 14 Apr 2019, 12:51 am Jaskirat Singh, <[1]
> juskirat2...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>  Thanks Vipul for taking this up, The funds that were granted by

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gsoc Proposal for "performance in musicblocks"

[Samson Goddy]

Great proposal. Glad to see you are still contributing to MB.

On Sat, Apr 6, 2019, 2:23 PM Sumit Srivastava 
wrote:

> The proposal is great.
> Also, thank you for all the help with bug discovery.
> ᐧ
>
> On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 6:43 PM Walter Bender 
> wrote:
>
>> It looks very comprehensive to me. (Thanks for adding the section on
>> Promises.)
>>
>> -walter
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 6:01 AM Favour Kelvin 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have not gotten any reviews yet on my proposal
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019, 1:55 AM James Cameron  wrote:
>>>
 Thanks!

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Collaboration Between Activities Fail with Fedora 29 SoaS

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On Wed, Mar 13, 2019, 6:30 PM Alex Perez  wrote:

> Samson,
>
> Based on my previous conversations with you, you had indicated you were
> using Fedora 29 32-bit SoaS. Please confirm that this is still the case. I
> have changed the subject line to reflect this.
>
Yes, I am using 29 32-bit SoaS.

>
> I believe you are encountering the issue which we thought we had fixed
> with a previous patch (see https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/issues/814
> ). This patch is now upstream in F29, but _only_ if you use the updated
> 32-bit SoaS image, which is not yet generally available. Even with the fix
> in place, collaboration still fails with the same message.
>
> After starting Sugar, open the Terminal, and type 'grep key
> ~/.sugar/default/logs/shell.log' If you see a message which says "ERROR
> root: Error parsing public key" then you are running into a bug that has
> been present in the last several versions of Fedora, and completely breaks
> collaboration. The underlying problem is still not fully understood,
> however we know it's related to SSH keys.
>
> Additionally, for collaboration to function, you must also make sure that
> your Ethernet interfaces have IP addresses (self-assigned is fine), and
> that there is a default route set on each computer that is attempting to
> collaborate. You can check this from the terminal with "ip route", and if
> there is no line that starts with "default" or no output at all, then there
> is no default route set, and collaboration will not work.
>
> Here is an example of the output of shell.log which shows the error:
> http://alexperez.com/xo1/VirtualBox_Fedora29-soas-shell.log.png
>

Thanks Alex, I will be giving an update by Wednesday. As soon as I get my
hands on the computers again.


Regards

>
>
> Samson Goddy wrote on 3/13/19 7:09 AM:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> We've been working on installing SOAS on some computers in a school and we
> were testing collaboration using CAT5 cables connected to a router
> and also connected to the two computers running the SOAS instances, the
> both instances are seen on the two computers but after joining an activity
> the "Joining activity" alert and collaboration doesn't happen.
>
> Logs here <https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/zHTTguZXyh4k7xskpe4Inw>.
>
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[Sugar-devel] Collaboration Between Activities Fail

[Samson Goddy]

Hi Everyone,

We've been working on installing SOAS on some computers in a school and we
were testing collaboration using CAT5 cables connected to a router
and also connected to the two computers running the SOAS instances, the
both instances are seen on the two computers but after joining an activity
the "Joining activity" alert and collaboration doesn't happen.

Logs here <https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/zHTTguZXyh4k7xskpe4Inw>.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] NEW MEMBER

[Samson Goddy]

Welcome Somotochi,

You can easily get started here by following this link
http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2019-February/056304.html

For GSoC, you can get more information here
https://github.com/sugarlabs/GSoC


Regards


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somtochionyekw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> My name is Somtochi Onyekwere. I am a fourth year student in Federal
> University of Technology, Owerri. I am hoping to join you guys for GSoC
> this year. I am completely excited to be part of the work you do. Thank you!
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: GSoC 2019: Sugar Labs has been accepted as a mentor organization!

[Samson Goddy]

Awesome!


Regards

On Mon, Feb 25, 2019, 8:47 PM Walter Bender  wrote:

>
> :)
>
> -- Forwarded message -
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> Subject: GSoC 2019: Sugar Labs has been accepted as a mentor organization!
> To: 
>
>
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>
> Congratulations! Sugar Labs has been selected as a Google Summer of Code
> 2019 mentor organization.
>
> The list of accepted 2019 GSoC mentoring organizations will be published
> at February 26, 2019 20:00 UTC at https://g.co/gsoc.
>
> After it is published, you will be able to invite mentors and update your
> organization profile.
>
> We've let you know before the public announcement, so you can make sure
> your project ideas are ready for students to review and your org admins and
> mentors are ready to answer emails from prospective students.
>
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[Sugar-devel] Sl.org Down?

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Hello,

Is it just me or is https://www.sugarlabs.org down?
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Suggestions for GSoC 2019

[Samson Goddy]

Just for some point of correction.

 Sugar Labs Social was never a GSoC project, I don't understand why you
keep bringing it up. Any "coding" project that is related to Sugar Lab's
goals or leads to improvement to the mission is eligible as a  Gsoc project.

Some project requires more than 3 months of coding to be called a
successful project. I just wonder how these decisions are made. Let utilize
the GSoC platform to improve every form of Sugar Labs as much as possible.
Everything is as important as the other.

The current tools we are building how do we measure its success?

Regards

On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 5:47 PM Rahul Bothra  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 7:44 PM Amaan Iqbal 
> wrote:
> > I see we only have 6 projects so far in our Ideas list in comparison to
> 11
> > which were selected in GSoC last year. Being a successful Open Source
> > organization, I sincerely hope we have the potential of having many more
> > projects in GSoC this year(most probably 15+ if we can come up with
> > such promising ideas).
>
> We had 12 projects last year, out of which 1 was failed officially. Many
> projects failed to deliver what was expected out of them, including my
> own.
> Some projects did not involve improving our tools, Sugar Desktop,
> Activities,
> MusicBlocks or Sugarizer, and did add any value to the organisation.
> This was primarily because we had more projects than we could handle,
> and that some projects were not effectively groomed and mentored.
>
> I don't know what a "successful Open Source organisation" means. But I
> don't think we should release more ideas than we can mentor. Having less
> projects does not imply our failure in any sense, lack of existing
> contributors
> might indicate that.
>
> > Here I would suggest an idea for the renovation of our Website, blog
> , and
> > creation of a customized/integration of existing CMS to our website from
> > where admins can create articles directly.
>
> FWIW, our current website was also implemented as a GSoC Project. I
> don't think it will improve our tools, or if it will actually be
> completed. Past
> examples show that development of such tools (Sugar Social, ASLO v3)
> never got into deployment at the end.
>
> Even if we add a project for improving the website, 2 years down the line
> we might again face a similar email pointing out the drawbacks of the new
> model and another revamping of the website.
>
> Although I would be happy to see contributions made to improve the
> website, I am not in favor of adding this as a GSoC Project.
> FYI, there are plans of A/B testing of the website, though I don't know the
> current status.
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Suggestion on moving from IRC to Gitter

[Samson Goddy]

Hello Rahul,

 Have you looked at Zulip? They host open source organization completely
free and they are 100% open source and still have same platform as Slack,
with a lot of access to integrate bots and even GitHub notifications.

Easy to relate with. It has IOS, MAC OSX, Android, Windows and Linux
supported. Also on browser, however it is something that the community
needs to agree on.

Moving from IRC is a big step.

https://zulipchat.com


Regards

On Fri, Jan 18, 2019, 9:18 AM Rahul Bothra  I am proposing a change in the communication medium from IRC to Gitter.
> I've made a Gitter Community at https://gitter.im/Sugar-Labs, for people
> to try it out. In case people don't like the change, we can shut it down
> and stick to IRC.
>
> Following are my reasons for the change;
>
> New users can't see the past conversations, which is useful at times
>
> Many active contributors don't run an all time online instance,
> and can't read unresolved doubts asked when they were offline
>
> If a new user doesn't get a response for some time, he tends to
> quit IRC (observation) and it's difficult to look him up and resolve
> his query. This *might *lead to contributors thinking that the org is i
> nactive
>
> Since we are diverse, we can use different channels for each;
> Sugar, Sugarizer, Music Blocks, Design, Website.
> This will make discussions more organised and easy to look up
> Implementing this on IRC could increase problems of inactivity
> even more.
>
> D. Joe gave a reason[1] against the switch that every other chat
> systems has their own advantages.
> I don't mind using any chat system which can curb these issues.
>
> I am now comfortable in using IRC because:
>  - I *somewhat* understood how it works, but it took time to figure out
>  - I now know at what time might a contributor come online,
>but it took time to figure out
>  - I now know which contributor works on what, so I can ask via mail,
>if IRC doesn't help, but it took time to figure out
>
> There are obvious workarounds for all these, but then it's better if new
> contributors devote 'time to figure out' code instead ;-)
>
> [1]:
> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2018-February/055064.html
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Errors from Soas 29

[Samson Goddy]

Yes, we did. Upgraded metacity and Sugar, also made changes to the
~/profile.py

On Thu, Jan 17, 2019, 10:26 AM Peter Robinson  Have you applied all the latest updates to Fedora, a number of issues have
> been fixed with Fedora 29 updates.
>
> Peter
>
> On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 8:52 AM Samson Goddy 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Ibiam and I are currently working to install Sugar in the classroom, so
>> we decided to download Soas 32-bit versions. After installing, we ran into
>> some problems immediately after the desktop booted which can be found
>> here[1]. I also noticed whenever I click on the speaker icon, the bottom of
>> the frame becomes darker. I tested collaboration using Jabber service,
>> Ibiam couldn't find the desktop on the neighborhood but the desktop can
>> alongside.
>>
>>   Quick question? what are the best ways to make sugar to talk to each
>> other? Those desktop are using mini USB wifi adaptors(working on windows)
>> but not Soas. I will be testing on more systems by Wednesday.
>>
>> Logs[2]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [1]https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick#Known_bugs
>> [2]https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/4QIR-XATy2wmnZb2VbNn3A
>>
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[Sugar-devel] Errors from Soas 29

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Hello,

Ibiam and I are currently working to install Sugar in the classroom, so we
decided to download Soas 32-bit versions. After installing, we ran into
some problems immediately after the desktop booted which can be found
here[1]. I also noticed whenever I click on the speaker icon, the bottom of
the frame becomes darker. I tested collaboration using Jabber service,
Ibiam couldn't find the desktop on the neighborhood but the desktop can
alongside.

  Quick question? what are the best ways to make sugar to talk to each
other? Those desktop are using mini USB wifi adaptors(working on windows)
but not Soas. I will be testing on more systems by Wednesday.

Logs[2]





[1]https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick#Known_bugs
[2]https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/4QIR-XATy2wmnZb2VbNn3A

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[Sugar-devel] Mentors for Sugar on Raspberry Pi?

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Hello,

Sugar on Raspberry Pi is very important to the community, I believe that it
should be a GSoC project. But do we have any potential mentors here, that
can help on the project?

  The current image for RPi has some sensory issues, which is one of the
reasons why it was built.  It will great if someone with experience on RPI
can mentor this project

https://sugarlabs.org/sugar-for-raspberry-pi/
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar and Scratch 3.0 online

[Samson Goddy]

Thanks, James for the update. I am not sure how I missed this mail.



On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 2:24 AM James Cameron  wrote:

> Scratch 3.0 was released [1].
>
> It works fine online using Sugar 0.112 and Browse 202, on Fedora 29
> and Ubuntu 18.04, on virtual machines and hardware.
>

Scratch works well for Sugar and Browse but without no support for sound
and audio recording.

>
> Blocks can be assembled into programs which then run.  Animation
> and sound also works.
>
> While on screen but not being used, the editor has an event loop which
> consumes CPU cycles.  Faster CPUs consume less power.  An OLPC NL3
> with quad-core N2940 CPU at 1.83 GHz is 65% busy.
>
> The editor does need memory; a virtual machine with 1 GB of RAM causes
> WebKit log reports due to memory pressure, but with 2 GB of RAM there
> are no such reports.
>
> Scratch 3.0 is not available for offline use on Linux yet [2].
>
> On the OLPC XO-4, Scratch 3.0 does not start, as it requires features
> that are not available in the older WebKit browser.  I don't expect
> this to change.
>
> References:
>
> 1.  https://scratch.mit.edu/
> 2.  https://scratch.mit.edu/download
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Congratulations to all finalists and winners

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Congratulations




Regards

On Wed, Jan 9, 2019, 5:45 PM Freddie N  I am honoured to have been chosen as GPW. I had such a great time during
> the whole of GCI and there really were some amazing tasks that were
> completed. I look forward to continuing to make contributions to Sugar
> Labs. Finally, again I would like to thank all the mentors for their
> amazing commitment to the whole process.
>
> Huge congratulations to Austin and the finalists.
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Sugar on Fedora looking forward

[Samson Goddy]

I am willing to test.

I have Some running on my computer.


Regards

On Wed, Jan 9, 2019, 4:36 AM James Cameron  On Wed, Jan 09, 2019 at 01:12:05AM +, Peter Robinson wrote:
> > Hey James,
> >
> > Happy New Year!
> >
> > > > > > >> 1) gstreamer 1.0 support in Activies. The 0.10 series is well
> and
> > > > > > >> truly dead and unmaintained, but there's a couple of key
> Activities
> > > > > > >> that still depend on it. Clock and Record are the two big
> ones here.
> > > > > > >> Are there any plans to move them to gst1?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > They were moved.  Check the release announcements and the
> tarball
> > > > > > > directories.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Clock/Clock-20.tar.bz2
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ha, already have that, will review packaging and make sure it's
> all right.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/honey/Record/Record-200.tar.bz2
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Awesome! This makes me happy, thanks!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> 2) GTK2 sugar-toolkit, again a number of Activities still
> haven't
> > > > > > >> moved to gtk3, any plans?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes.  We have a contributor working on that now, so please
> make sure
> > > > > > > we know which ones Fedora think are still GTK+ 2.  Time
> critical.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> 3) eToys, we've not shipped this by default for some time, I
> plan on
> > > > > > >> retiring it and any of it's dependencies in Fedora 29. Good
> riddance
> > > > > > >> sugar-presence-service!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've no news on this one.  Best to contact Etoys project.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They stopped responding years ago, they never even got around to
> > > > > > removing the presence-server dep. I've retired it now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> 4) This is the big one... python2. With python2 being EOL
> real soon
> > > > > > >> now is there any interest in moving to py3, I know there was
> some work
> > > > > > >> years ago to do some readiness here with the move to gtk3 but
> I don't
> > > > > > >> remember the details. Fedora is actively moving to python3
> and has
> > > > > > >> been for some years, I think for at least 6 releases it's been
> > > > > > >> possible to run without py2 installed at all. Is this the
> nail in the
> > > > > > >> coffin for Sugar?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Our port to Python 3 is going well.  We have good working code
> in pull
> > > > > > > requests and branches, and plan to merge it once we have the
> critical
> > > > > > > components complete.  Our plan is in the GitHub projects tab
> for the
> > > > > > > organisation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Awesome news! Is there a rough timeline for this?
> > > > >
> > > > > Following last year's release plan; a v0.113 around 9th September,
> and
> > > > > a v0.114 around 6th October.
> > > >
> > > > What's the status of the 0.113/114 releases? I'd like to start to
> > > > working on the python3 builds for Fedora 30 sooner rather than
> > > > later.
> > >
> > > Stalled on sugar-toolkit-gtk3 port from static to PyGObject
> > > introspection for Telepathy.
> > >
> > > There's still no Python 3 support for the static binding in the
> > > Telepathy project, though the binding has been ported to Python 3 by
> > > our developer Rahul.  So porting to PyGObject seems like the right way
> > > to go.  It is in progress.  PRs #389 and #383.
> > >
> > > With only myself and Rahul looking at this, I'd guess another few
> > > months before a release with Python 3 support.  I'll put it down for
> > > discussion at the weekly meeting.
> >
> > Just thought I'd do a check in to see how you're getting on with the
> > python3 port, just trying to do a bit of planning for the next few
> > months.
>
> No progress.  Also no testers yet apart from Rahul.  I'd give it
> another six months.
>
> > I updated all the various Activities to the latest versions the other
> > day, except I couldn't find the latest version of TurtleBlocks, on the
> > download site the latest is 216 and I couldn't find it in git.
>
> Thanks for noticing.  Yes, same here.
>
> Guess Walter too busy; so I used the checklist;
>
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/blob/master/src/contributing.md#checklist---maintainer
>
> Downloaded and confirmed the bundle matches
> fbc61222ba95aa1118976434d6951647fea8e13c.
>
> Added tag to GitHub repository.
>
> Uploaded source to;
>
> http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/TurtleArt/TurtleBlocks-218.tar.bz2
>
> That should get you going.  Test it though, 'cause I've made three
> traceback fixes after v218 that aren't in it.
>
> > Peter
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[Sugar-devel] sugar-runner stop working?

[Samson Goddy]

Hello all,

I was trying to install sugar alongside my Fedora 28. I keep getting this error
message <https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/EuET1TMLbn3K6eCcvcpSSg>[1],
At first, I tried to fix it by doing the following;

On sugar-runner to specify the version.

27. import gi

29. gi.require_version('SugarRunner', '1.0')

48. gi.require_version('GTK', '3.0')

On xephyr-window

20. import gi

22. gi.require_version('SugarRunner', '1.0')

on xinitrc

24. import gi

26. gi.require_version('SugarRunner', '1.0')

After adding the following, I ran into this error
https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/EuET1TMLbn3K6eCcvcpSSg

Am I missing something?



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[Sugar-devel] Gsoc Mentor Stipends

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Hello all,

I am writing to update the community about the decision for using the
Google money towards marketing. The mentors all agreed that it is going to
be a great idea to use the funds to promote the Sugar Labs tools by having
promotional swags, like T-shirt, stickers, and mugs.

Here on this mail are the mentors that made the agreement. So the marketing
team will have to make a plan for the Oversight Board to properly agree to
make it a budget for marketing.


Happy New Year,

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Website Update for a/b testing

[Samson Goddy]

@Alex Perez will be focusing on numbers, so I think he is in the better
position to answer that. But our initial agreement was to see which does
better per user most time spent.




On Fri, Dec 21, 2018, 8:44 AM James Cameron  What's your metrics, baseline, and hypothesis?
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 08:25:39AM +0100, Samson Goddy wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Yes, we are working on the second landing page (B) part of the site.
> Bringing
> > perrie mockup to live. We are almost done.
> >
> > We need something to compare with the current [1]sl.org
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018, 6:36 AM James Cameron <[2]qu...@laptop.org wrote:
> >
> > Has this been done yet?  It has been very quiet since I gave this
> > summary.
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 08:06:44AM +1100, James Cameron wrote:
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Gathering together the information so far;
> > >
> > > 1.  meeting of community members during an oversight board meeting,
> > > [3]https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2018/
> > meeting-log-2018-12-07
> > > chose a goal (A/B content testing), and a team of volunteers,
> > >
> > > 2.  meeting of the team came up with several plans,
> > > [4]http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/2018-12-09
> > > and an article on the value and process of A/B testing,
> > > [5]
> https://circaedu.com/hemj/understanding-the-value-of-ab-testing/
> > >
> > > 3.  Peace has forged ahead and made a mock-up of some design
> changes,
> > > [6]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2018-December/
> > 056034.html
> > >
> > > Could the team please;
> > >
> > > - decide how to measure engagement; e.g. time on page,
> click-through
> > >   to downloads; this is the metric,
> > >
> > > - begin to measure, to establish the baseline,
> > >
> > > - make some hypothesis,
> > >
> > > - establish which metrics will define pass or fail,
> > >
> > > - design an experiment,
> > >
> > > - run the experiment,
> > >
> > > - assess the results and come to a conclusion,
> > >
> > > - iterate back to the hypothesis step,
> > >
> > > I've turned on the GitHub Wiki feature for the repository
> > > [7]https://github.com/sugarlabs/www-sugarlabs in case you'd like
> to use
> > > that for sharing your work in a central place.  Otherwise you might
> > > use [8]wiki.sugarlabs.org.
> > >
> > > Thanks for working on this!
> > >
> > > --
> > > James Cameron
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> > References:
> >
> > [1] http://sl.org/
> > [2] mailto:qu...@laptop.org
> > [3]
> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2018/meeting-log-2018-12-07
> > [4] http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/2018-12-09
> > [5] https://circaedu.com/hemj/understanding-the-value-of-ab-testing/
> > [6]
> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2018-December/056034.html
> > [7] https://github.com/sugarlabs/www-sugarlabs
> > [8] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/
> > [9] http://quozl.netrek.org/
> > [10] http://quozl.netrek.org/
> > [11] mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> > [12] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Website Update for a/b testing

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On Fri, Dec 21, 2018, 8:30 AM Perrie Ojemeh  This is a very good point! Alex, James and Samson thoughts about it?
>
> For reframing content purposes.
>

Agree can we have signed similar content to the B side of the site?
Addresssing Tony's concerned?

Tony, would you want to help reframe the content?

>
> On Fri, 21 Dec 2018 at 7:19 AM, Tony Anderson 
> wrote:
>
>> I didn't read everything but it appears this has to do with
>> www.sugarlabs.org and not Sugar.
>>
>> Our fundamental problem is the perception that Sugar is limited to the
>> XO platform. Not only do we need to focus on Sugar for
>> other platforms but on the basic question: What does Sugar offer that
>> makes it a compelling choice for education in schools? Once that is
>> decided, it would be appropriate to use the website to convey the
>> message to the public.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> On 12/21/18 5:36 AM, James Cameron wrote:
>> > Has this been done yet?  It has been very quiet since I gave this
>> > summary.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 08:06:44AM +1100, James Cameron wrote:
>> >> Thanks.
>> >>
>> >> Gathering together the information so far;
>> >>
>> >> 1.  meeting of community members during an oversight board meeting,
>> >>
>> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2018/meeting-log-2018-12-07
>> >> chose a goal (A/B content testing), and a team of volunteers,
>> >>
>> >> 2.  meeting of the team came up with several plans,
>> >> http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/2018-12-09
>> >> and an article on the value and process of A/B testing,
>> >> https://circaedu.com/hemj/understanding-the-value-of-ab-testing/
>> >>
>> >> 3.  Peace has forged ahead and made a mock-up of some design changes,
>> >>
>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2018-December/056034.html
>> >>
>> >> Could the team please;
>> >>
>> >> - decide how to measure engagement; e.g. time on page, click-through
>> >>to downloads; this is the metric,
>> >>
>> >> - begin to measure, to establish the baseline,
>> >>
>> >> - make some hypothesis,
>> >>
>> >> - establish which metrics will define pass or fail,
>> >>
>> >> - design an experiment,
>> >>
>> >> - run the experiment,
>> >>
>> >> - assess the results and come to a conclusion,
>> >>
>> >> - iterate back to the hypothesis step,
>> >>
>> >> I've turned on the GitHub Wiki feature for the repository
>> >> https://github.com/sugarlabs/www-sugarlabs in case you'd like to use
>> >> that for sharing your work in a central place.  Otherwise you might
>> >> use wiki.sugarlabs.org.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for working on this!
>> >>
>> >> --
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>> >> http://quozl.netrek.org/
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Website Update for a/b testing

[Samson Goddy]

On Fri, Dec 21, 2018, 7:19 AM Tony Anderson  I didn't read everything but it appears this has to do with
> www.sugarlabs.org and not Sugar.
>
> Our fundamental problem is the perception that Sugar is limited to the
> XO platform. Not only do we need to focus on Sugar for
> other platforms but on the basic question: What does Sugar offer that
> makes it a compelling choice for education in schools? Once that is
> decided, it would be appropriate to use the website to convey the
> message to the public.
>

Yes, you are correct.

>
> Tony
>
> On 12/21/18 5:36 AM, James Cameron wrote:
> > Has this been done yet?  It has been very quiet since I gave this
> > summary.
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 08:06:44AM +1100, James Cameron wrote:
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Gathering together the information so far;
> >>
> >> 1.  meeting of community members during an oversight board meeting,
> >>
> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2018/meeting-log-2018-12-07
> >> chose a goal (A/B content testing), and a team of volunteers,
> >>
> >> 2.  meeting of the team came up with several plans,
> >> http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/2018-12-09
> >> and an article on the value and process of A/B testing,
> >> https://circaedu.com/hemj/understanding-the-value-of-ab-testing/
> >>
> >> 3.  Peace has forged ahead and made a mock-up of some design changes,
> >>
> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2018-December/056034.html
> >>
> >> Could the team please;
> >>
> >> - decide how to measure engagement; e.g. time on page, click-through
> >>to downloads; this is the metric,
> >>
> >> - begin to measure, to establish the baseline,
> >>
> >> - make some hypothesis,
> >>
> >> - establish which metrics will define pass or fail,
> >>
> >> - design an experiment,
> >>
> >> - run the experiment,
> >>
> >> - assess the results and come to a conclusion,
> >>
> >> - iterate back to the hypothesis step,
> >>
> >> I've turned on the GitHub Wiki feature for the repository
> >> https://github.com/sugarlabs/www-sugarlabs in case you'd like to use
> >> that for sharing your work in a central place.  Otherwise you might
> >> use wiki.sugarlabs.org.
> >>
> >> Thanks for working on this!
> >>
> >> --
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> >> http://quozl.netrek.org/
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Website Update for a/b testing

[Samson Goddy]

Hello,


Yes, we are working on the second landing page (B) part of the site.
Bringing perrie mockup to live. We are almost done.

We need something to compare with the current sl.org


Regards

On Fri, Dec 21, 2018, 6:36 AM James Cameron  Has this been done yet?  It has been very quiet since I gave this
> summary.
>
> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 08:06:44AM +1100, James Cameron wrote:
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Gathering together the information so far;
> >
> > 1.  meeting of community members during an oversight board meeting,
> >
> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2018/meeting-log-2018-12-07
> > chose a goal (A/B content testing), and a team of volunteers,
> >
> > 2.  meeting of the team came up with several plans,
> > http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/2018-12-09
> > and an article on the value and process of A/B testing,
> > https://circaedu.com/hemj/understanding-the-value-of-ab-testing/
> >
> > 3.  Peace has forged ahead and made a mock-up of some design changes,
> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2018-December/056034.html
> >
> > Could the team please;
> >
> > - decide how to measure engagement; e.g. time on page, click-through
> >   to downloads; this is the metric,
> >
> > - begin to measure, to establish the baseline,
> >
> > - make some hypothesis,
> >
> > - establish which metrics will define pass or fail,
> >
> > - design an experiment,
> >
> > - run the experiment,
> >
> > - assess the results and come to a conclusion,
> >
> > - iterate back to the hypothesis step,
> >
> > I've turned on the GitHub Wiki feature for the repository
> > https://github.com/sugarlabs/www-sugarlabs in case you'd like to use
> > that for sharing your work in a central place.  Otherwise you might
> > use wiki.sugarlabs.org.
> >
> > Thanks for working on this!
> >
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Labs 2018-2020 Oversight Board Election Results

[Samson Goddy]

Not sure why I didn't receive Ifeanyi's email but I also agreed with Alex.

On Mon, Dec 17, 2018, 9:02 PM Alex Perez  Agreed, the voter turnout of just under 26% is highly unfortunate, and I
> personally think it would be worth sending a questionnaire to the 124
> members we know did not submit a vote, but were "registered" to do so,
> asking a question or two about why they chose not to vote. Was it a matter
> of not knowing about the candidates, or no longer caring about Sugar, etc?
>
>
> Ifeanyi Peter 
> December 17, 2018 at 5:29 AM
> Congratulations to the new Oversight Board Members.
>
>
> The ballot is kinda poor, not even up to 50% members voted.
>
> Thanks to the electoral committee for an awesome job
>
> - Ifeanyi Ekperi
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> December 15, 2018 at 3:01 AM
> Hello,
>
> 43 out of 167 Sugar Labs member voted during the Sugar Labs 2018-2020
> Election.
>
> Congratulations to the winners who have been selected for the 2018-2020
> period:
>
> 1. *Walter Bender*
> 2. *James Cameron*
> 3. *Lionel Laské*
> *4. Alex Perez *
> *5. Devin Ulibarri*
>
> Results are available at the following URL:
>
>
> https://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_7e20f77cd6595bfe&rkey=dd2850a107103a39
>
> For more information about the Condorcet Internet Voting Service, see
> http://civs.cs.cornell.edu
>
> Many thanks to Ibiam Chihurumnaya, Rahul Bothra, Jaskirat Singh, Anmol
> Mishra, and Amaan Iqbal for their candidacies submissions and for their
> interest to be part of the Sugar Labs Oversight Board.
>
> Many thanks to everyone in the Membership and Elections Committee, for all
> their efforts and time dedicated to maintaining the Sugar Labs member's
> list.
>
> Many thanks to the Wiki and Systems teams for their ongoing support.
>
>
>
> *Membership and Elections Committee*
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[Sugar-devel] Sugar Labs 2018-2020 Oversight Board Election Results

[Samson Goddy]

Hello,

43 out of 167 Sugar Labs member voted during the Sugar Labs 2018-2020
Election.

Congratulations to the winners who have been selected for the 2018-2020
period:

1. *Walter Bender*
2. *James Cameron*
3. *Lionel Laské*
*4. Alex Perez *
*5. Devin Ulibarri*

Results are available at the following URL:

https://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_7e20f77cd6595bfe&rkey=dd2850a107103a39

For more information about the Condorcet Internet Voting Service, see
http://civs.cs.cornell.edu

Many thanks to Ibiam Chihurumnaya, Rahul Bothra, Jaskirat Singh, Anmol
Mishra, and Amaan Iqbal for their candidacies submissions and for their
interest to be part of the Sugar Labs Oversight Board.

Many thanks to everyone in the Membership and Elections Committee, for all
their efforts and time dedicated to maintaining the Sugar Labs member's
list.

Many thanks to the Wiki and Systems teams for their ongoing support.



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[Sugar-devel] Reminder (Election)

[Samson Goddy]

Hello,


We have 5 days left until deadline for voting. if you haven't received a
ballot for the election, feel free to contact me. Make sure you search your
spam folder for "civs" to double check before writing to me.

If you haven't voted, I encourage you to do so.

Regards

Samson

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Workshop Success

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Awesome work

Hoping to see more

On Sun, Dec 9, 2018, 2:44 PM Pratul Kumar  Appreciated your work !!
>
> On Sun 9 Dec, 2018, 6:34 PM Amaan Iqbal 
>> Great! Keep up the good work.
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 6:29 PM Jaskirat Singh 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nice work. Keep going
>>>
>>> On Sun, 9 Dec 2018, 6:24 pm Hrishi Patel, 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Great. Thanks for the effort :)

 On Sun, Dec 9, 2018, 6:22 PM Sarthak Agrawal <1sarthak@gmail.com
 wrote:

> I held the workshop today at my home.I invited all the primary school
> kids from my locality and taught them about Sugarizer.They did many
> activities such as Grid Activity,Tank Activity,Paint Activity etc. The
> workshop was a huge success and the kids got to learn a lot through the
> activities. I also gave away a trophy to the one who participated the best
> in this workshop and many prizes to others. I created a slideshow on my
> workshop and here is the YouTube link to it :
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[Sugar-devel] Election day

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Hello,

Today is election day

Please feel free to send me a mail, if you haven't received your ballot.

Try to Search for "Poll: Sugar Labs Oversight Board Election 2018" from
c...@cs.cornell.edu to get the mail. Also, try to scan your spam or junk
folder.


Happy New Month / Voting

Regards
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Open Source and Trackers [Was: Announcement of the candicacy of Lionel Laské]

[Samson Goddy]

On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 10:44 PM James Cameron  wrote:

> Re: "Open Source", yes, please to make pull request, thanks.  I'll
> hack into it unless someone else does, but no need to wait.
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/www-sugarlabs/issues/273
>
> Re: trackers, yes, please to make pull request.  I've no idea how to
> fix this, but I did ask that all resources be on our server.  I'm also
> unsure about the Google site verification files; why they are there,
> what they enable, and who is hiding the results.
>

The Google verification file(s) are on the site for two reasons;

1. Access to Sugar Labs content over Google web (Knowledge Graph)

2. Improving SEO

Who have access to this files?

1. Samson Goddy
2. Dave Crossland

Why do we need this file;
1. To better solve 1 and 2 which seems to be Sugar Labs problem on the web
search. Do we have the right? it depends of what angle the question is
coming from. But Dave and I are working on the marketing team. Is it
removable? yes, I can easily take it off. Would it affect Sugar Labs? maybe.

So why use this tools? why do we have facebook for marketing ? why use
github instead of Gitlab?

The questions is what is our target audience? where are they coming from?
hat do they like? Do we ever what to approach them? Can we do without these
tools?


Do you have better alternative to Facebook? Google Analytics? an better
"open source" way to boost SEO?

All these questions are open to the community.

>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Announcement of the candicacy of Lionel Laské for SLOB

[Samson Goddy]

On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 10:21 PM Lionel Laské 
wrote:

>
> Hi Alex,
>
> Le mar. 27 nov. 2018 à 18:27, Alex Perez  a écrit :
>
>> Lionel,
>>
>> Thank you for stepping forward. I encourage others to ask questions of
>> you as well. I have a few:
>>
>> Sure, you're welcome.
>
>
>> Are you willing to state that you will make your best effort to attend
>> all SLOB meetings? There is no statement to this effect on your candidacy
>> page, and as you are no doubt aware, I have called out a number of current
>> SLOB members out regarding their extremely poor attendance.
>>
>> Few things about that.
> Thanks for the count you've done about attendance for each SLOB member. I
> respect your work however I must say you're wrong on me at least for the
> last meeting. I was there as you could see on the log.  BTW the question is
> not about meeting attendance but more about meeting content. I must say
> that we spent in 2 previous years lot of time and energy to talk and debate
> about travel reimbursement for some members. These debates discouraged lot
> of SLOB members and it's probably the reason some of them decided to not
> candidate again. I must confess I was questioning myself too: your own
> candidacy was one reason to motivate me that something could be changed
> (please James, join us too ;-).
> Finally, I'm not sure anyone could have doubt about my personal engagement
> in SugarLabs during past years.
>
>
>> Also, on your candidacy page, you state "We are an open source community.
>> It should be asserted on our webpage and we must choose tools compatible
>> with that philosophy. It's not acceptable for example that today the
>> SugarLabs webpage include multiple tracking tools."
>>
>> Can you be more specific about what sort of tracking tools you believe
>> are problematic? I personally agree that the Sugar Labs website needs to do
>> a better job explaining what the project is, and that it is an open source
>> project (these words to not appear anywhere on the Sugar Labs landing page).
>>
>> I think specifically to Google Analytics. But as you said the main point
> is that words Open Source should appears clearly.
>

I believe in improvement and how to make a community better. As a member of
Sugar Labs, have you considered opening an issue on the www-sugarlabs to
bring in a better alternative? Ignoring things, as a community member when
have a better solution for "me" isn't a good way to grow a community.

(My opinion)

>
> Regards,
>> Alex Perez
>>
>>
> Lionel Laské 
>> November 27, 2018 at 9:02 AM
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm proud to be candidate for the SugarLabs Oversight Board election.
>>
>> Find more about my candidacy here:
>> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2018-2020-candidates/Lionel_Lask%C3%A9
>>
>> Best regards from France.
>>
>> Lionel.
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Trip Report during visit to GSOC Summit

[Samson Goddy]

Awesome

On Mon, Nov 26, 2018, 8:43 PM James Cameron  Thanks.  Text of document inserted below, for our mailing list
> archives, as we do lose access to Google Documents later if accounts
> are compromised.
>
> --
>
> Journey To GSOC events, USA
>
>
> I never expected that this would be one of the turning points in the life.
> My journey to Google gave me opportunity to learn and explore new things in
> the current world.
>
>
> I was given the chance to represent Sugar Labs at Google Summer of Code
> Meetup in Google Office, San Francisco, California, USA. This was really an
> amazing experience meeting prodigious people from different organisations
> and other communities especially the Google Open Source Team all over the
> globe.
>
>
> L to R: Joshua Simmons(Google), Jaskirat Singh
>   me and Cat Allman (Google)
> (me) & Stephanie Taylor (Google OSPM)
>
>
> The major importance of this meetup was to connect with background
> Contributors i.e. students with the real time organisations and their
> missions. This meetup had various people including Google Code In and
> Google Summer of code students, mentors and organization administrators.
>
>
> I connected with many people especially students in order to explain the
> functionality and product service of Sugar Labs. I had a very nice time
> spending hours with Mifos, Liquid Galaxy, Catrobat, and other organisation
> org admins: talking about collaboration and networking.
>
>
>
>
> GSOC Meetup pic at Google San Francisco
>
>
> Many students at this meetup were quite interested to know about the Sugar
> and make their contribution in the next GSOC that is GSOC’2019. I tried
> partnering with Liquid Galaxy here in order to introduce Turtle Blocks and
> Music Blocks in their laptops which they recently launched in order to
> expand within educational institutions. These laptops were similar to the
> Chromebooks.
>
>
> The best time I had here was when I was demonstrating about the
> productivity of Sugar Labs especially Turtle Blocks and they were looking
> deeply into its codebase.
>
>
> Then I moved to Sunnyvale for attending the GSOC Mentor Summit. The blood
> ran into my spine when the Stephanie Taylor ( GSOC Open Source Team member
> ) introduced about me at Summit.
>
>
> The GSOC mentor Summit was a 3 day “unconference”. The people from
> different participating organisations proposed and held various session
> that included about Open Source, Organisation, projects, and other
> miscellaneous topics.
>
>
>
>
>   Opening Ceremony of GSOC Summit
>Organising sessions
>
>
> During the starting ceremony the Google Team instructed and explained us
> about importance of this summit.
>
>
> It was indeed pleasure to meet Devin Ulibarri (SL Org Admin in GSOC);
> discussing about the past histories of Sugar Labs and new plans for it. I
> discussed my idea of organising the Sugar Labs Summit once in the year. So
> maybe this gonna be covered in my next upcoming doc. Devin explained me
> about the Music and Music Blocks project going  in the Japan went he had
> been there. We also discussed about new User interface features for the
> Music Blocks and Turtle Blocks like creating a “New Tab window”, “Theme
> Changer”, etc.
>
>
>
>
> Pic with Devin Ulibarri ( Sugar Labs )
>
>
> I along with Devin attended many session, but the one I liked most was
> Google Season of Docs (GSOD). This session was lead by Sarah Maddox, a tech
> writer at Google who talked about of bringing more tech writers  into Open
> Source projects.
>
>
> “GSoD is similar to Google Summer of Code but focuses on docs and
> technical writers, rather than on code and students. The target
> participants are experienced tech writers who can work with us on our docs.
> The writing part of GSoD will run for 3 months, similar to GSoC. Another
> difference is that the technical writers will not be earning stipends, they
> will be doing this to learn more about open source code and working on
> developer focused docs with code and building their resume.”
>
>
> So this was really interesting topic to know  and understand about it. I
> really want to see this that how this will impact on Open Source
> organisations. This deck has more details about this program
> https://goo.gl/3Bpris
> It was really good when Devin introduced the Music Blocks project that was
> done by Riya Lohiya in GSOC’18 under the SL org. Although his talk was
> restricted to 3 mins, Devin was able to express beautifully within that
> time perfectly.
>
>
>
>
>  ( While Devin was explaining about the Riya Lohia’s project ( an intern
> in Sugar labs under GSOC’18 ) )
>
>
> I also organised a session and talked about Open Source Social Networking
> platform. Discussed this with Google Open Source Team too and they were
> really glad and wanted to see that how it come up.
>
>
> Having lunch with Karen Sandler from Software Freedom Conservancy
> including other member project member was really fun. We discussed

Re: [Sugar-devel] Stage II November: Election

[Samson Goddy]

Hello all,

We have six more days until the election.

If you are interested in running for SLOBS, please let me know and create
your wiki entry.

https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2018-2020-candidates

Regards

On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 4:24 PM Samson Goddy  wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> Sugar Lab's Elections and Membership Committee announces the upcoming 
> *2018-2020
> Sugar Labs Oversight Board Election
> <https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2018-2020-candidates>. *
>
> *F**our (4) Oversight Board members shall be elected for the Sugar Labs
> Oversight Board project for the 2018-2020 period.** This is the
> first call for candidates: *
>
> The mission of the oversight board is to ensure that the Sugar Labs
> community has clarity of purpose and the means to collaborate in achieving
> its goals.
>
>
>
> *Members <https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members> can run for
> election to the Oversight Board
> <https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board> and vote in the elections
> for the Oversight Board. Once e*lected, board members are expected to
> participate actively on Sugar Labs decision making processes and join
> Sugar-meeting IRC channel for SLOB's monthly meetings.
>
>
> *Stage II November 19, Reminder of the election date and second call for
> candidates. (Today)*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Stage III November 30, Candidates' Wiki submissions
> <https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2018-2020-candidates#Candidates>
>  deadline. Stage
> IV December 1-15 Election. Membership and Elections Committee*
>
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[Sugar-devel] Stage II November: Election

[Samson Goddy]

Greetings,

Sugar Lab's Elections and Membership Committee announces the upcoming
*2018-2020
Sugar Labs Oversight Board Election
<https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2018-2020-candidates>. *

*F**our (4) Oversight Board members shall be elected for the Sugar Labs
Oversight Board project for the 2018-2020 period.** This is the first call
for candidates: *

The mission of the oversight board is to ensure that the Sugar Labs
community has clarity of purpose and the means to collaborate in achieving
its goals.



*Members <https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members> can run for
election to the Oversight Board
<https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board> and vote in the elections
for the Oversight Board. Once e*lected, board members are expected to
participate actively on Sugar Labs decision making processes and join
Sugar-meeting IRC channel for SLOB's monthly meetings.


*Stage II November 19, Reminder of the election date and second call for
candidates. (Today)*







*Stage III November 30, Candidates' Wiki submissions
<https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2018-2020-candidates#Candidates>
deadline. Stage
IV December 1-15 Election. Membership and Elections Committee*

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[Sugar-devel] Announcement of election date and first call for candidates

[Samson Goddy]

Greetings,

Sugar Lab's Elections and Membership Committee announces the upcoming
*2018-2020
Sugar Labs Oversight Board Election
<https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2018-2020-candidates>. *

*F**our (4) Oversight Board members shall be elected for the Sugar Labs
Oversight Board project for the 2018-2020 period.**This is the first call
for candidates: *

The mission of the oversight board is to ensure that the Sugar Labs
community has clarity of purpose and the means to collaborate in achieving
its goals.



*Members <https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members> can run for
election to the Oversight Board
<https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board> and vote in the elections
for the Oversight Board. Once e*lected, board members are expected to
participate actively on Sugar Labs decision making processes and join
Sugar-meeting IRC channel for SLOB's monthly meetings.














*Stage I November 7, Announcement of election dates  and first call for
candidates. (Today)Stage II November 19, Reminder of election date and
second call for candidates. Stage III November 30, Candidates' Wiki
submissions
<https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2018-2020-candidates#Candidates>
deadline. Stage
IV December 1-15 Election. *
*Membership and Elections Committee *
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Re: [Sugar-devel] SL Marketing meeting?

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Agreed James.



Regards

On Sat, Oct 20, 2018, 6:34 AM James Cameron  wrote:

> Why?  They usually don’t know enough to explain Sugar, let alone be an
> ambassador.  I’d prefer active developers.  ;-)
>
> > On 20 Oct 2018, at 8:17 am, Sumit Srivastava 
> wrote:
> >
> > +1 on ambassador program.
> >
> > I'd like to suggest to make everyone who participates in Sugar Labs
> during GCI an ambassador too.
> >
> > Regards
> > Sumit Srivastava
> >
> > On Fri, 19 Oct 2018, 11:49 pm Samson Goddy, 
> wrote:
> > For those who missed the meeting. Here are the logs
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Samson
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 1:15 PM Samson Goddy 
> wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Friendly reminder!! The meeting will be at 17:00 UTC
> >
> >
> > See you there!!
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 11:25 AM Sidhant Bhavnani <
> bhavnanisidh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Looking forward to it. I have some ideas of how to go about integrating
> some of it into GCI.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Sidhant Bhavnani
> >
> > On Fri 12 Oct, 2018, 12:59 PM Samson Goddy, 
> wrote:
> > I don't plan to work alone. I plan to work with everyone. My mail wasn't
> specific to any group of persons.
> >
> > I add "thought" for more ideas of what to discuss because it is open.
> >
> > It is an open space anyone can contribute.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 12, 2018, 8:05 AM James Cameron  wrote:
> > Marketing related?  So is everything we do.
> >
> > Don’t exclude the people who aren’t willing to meet in yet another
> meeting?  If you do, you’ll just be ignored.  Let’s work together instead.
> >
> > > On 12 Oct 2018, at 7:55 am, Samson Goddy 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Noted, but I also believe they are Marketing related.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018, 9:43 PM James Cameron  wrote:
> > > Only one of your topics are relevant to Marketing; the first one.
> > >
> > > The other topics are best suited for the board, or the mailing lists.
> > >
> > > Please don’t try to hold new meetings just to avoid the existing
> meetings and collaborations?  Work to build consensus rather than dividing
> into more subgroups.
> > >
> > > I don't understand this part of the mail. Avoid existing meetings and
> collaboration?
> > >
> > > Could you throw more light on these points.
> > >
> > > > On 12 Oct 2018, at 1:27 am, Samson Goddy 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello All,
> > > >
> > > > Since 2016 [1], we haven't really talked about the marketing plan
> for SL. I am making an open call for have a meeting by tomorrow.  17:00 UTC
> [2]
> > > >
> > > > Share your thought?
> > > >
> > > > Topics ranging from;
> > > >
> > > > 1. Outreach (SL Ambassador, swag)
> > > > 2. Sugar roadmap
> > > > 3. Sugar Labs goals [3]
> > > > 4. Deployment
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team
> > > > [2] https://www.worldtimeserver.com/convert_time_in_UTC.aspx
> > > > [3] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Goals/2018_Submissions
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Samson Goddy
> > > > Twitter: https://twitter.com/samson_goddy
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> > > > samsongo...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > Website: https://samsongoddy.me/
> > > >
> > > >
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> >
> > Website: https://samsongoddy.me/
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Sugar-devel] SL Marketing meeting?

[Samson Goddy]

For those who missed the meeting. Here are the logs



Regards

Samson

On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 1:15 PM Samson Goddy  wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Friendly reminder!! The meeting will be at 17:00 UTC
>
>
> See you there!!
>
> Regards
>
> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 11:25 AM Sidhant Bhavnani <
> bhavnanisidh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Looking forward to it. I have some ideas of how to go about integrating
>> some of it into GCI.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sidhant Bhavnani
>>
>> On Fri 12 Oct, 2018, 12:59 PM Samson Goddy, 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't plan to work alone. I plan to work with everyone. My mail wasn't
>>> specific to any group of persons.
>>>
>>> I add "thought" for more ideas of what to discuss because it is open.
>>>
>>> It is an open space anyone can contribute.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018, 8:05 AM James Cameron  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Marketing related?  So is everything we do.
>>>>
>>>> Don’t exclude the people who aren’t willing to meet in yet another
>>>> meeting?  If you do, you’ll just be ignored.  Let’s work together instead.
>>>>
>>>> > On 12 Oct 2018, at 7:55 am, Samson Goddy 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Noted, but I also believe they are Marketing related.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018, 9:43 PM James Cameron  wrote:
>>>> > Only one of your topics are relevant to Marketing; the first one.
>>>> >
>>>> > The other topics are best suited for the board, or the mailing lists.
>>>> >
>>>> > Please don’t try to hold new meetings just to avoid the existing
>>>> meetings and collaborations?  Work to build consensus rather than dividing
>>>> into more subgroups.
>>>> >
>>>> > I don't understand this part of the mail. Avoid existing meetings and
>>>> collaboration?
>>>> >
>>>> > Could you throw more light on these points.
>>>> >
>>>> > > On 12 Oct 2018, at 1:27 am, Samson Goddy 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Hello All,
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Since 2016 [1], we haven't really talked about the marketing plan
>>>> for SL. I am making an open call for have a meeting by tomorrow.  17:00 UTC
>>>> [2]
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Share your thought?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Topics ranging from;
>>>> > >
>>>> > > 1. Outreach (SL Ambassador, swag)
>>>> > > 2. Sugar roadmap
>>>> > > 3. Sugar Labs goals [3]
>>>> > > 4. Deployment
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > [1] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team
>>>> > > [2] https://www.worldtimeserver.com/convert_time_in_UTC.aspx
>>>> > > [3] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Goals/2018_Submissions
>>>> > > --
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Samson Goddy
>>>> > > Twitter: https://twitter.com/samson_goddy
>>>> > > Email: samsongo...@sugarlabs.org
>>>> > > samsongo...@gmail.com
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Website: https://samsongoddy.me/
>>>> > >
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Re: [Sugar-devel] SL Marketing meeting?

[Samson Goddy]

Hello all,

Friendly reminder!! The meeting will be at 17:00 UTC


See you there!!

Regards

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 11:25 AM Sidhant Bhavnani 
wrote:

> Looking forward to it. I have some ideas of how to go about integrating
> some of it into GCI.
>
> Regards,
> Sidhant Bhavnani
>
> On Fri 12 Oct, 2018, 12:59 PM Samson Goddy,  wrote:
>
>> I don't plan to work alone. I plan to work with everyone. My mail wasn't
>> specific to any group of persons.
>>
>> I add "thought" for more ideas of what to discuss because it is open.
>>
>> It is an open space anyone can contribute.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 12, 2018, 8:05 AM James Cameron  wrote:
>>
>>> Marketing related?  So is everything we do.
>>>
>>> Don’t exclude the people who aren’t willing to meet in yet another
>>> meeting?  If you do, you’ll just be ignored.  Let’s work together instead.
>>>
>>> > On 12 Oct 2018, at 7:55 am, Samson Goddy 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Noted, but I also believe they are Marketing related.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018, 9:43 PM James Cameron  wrote:
>>> > Only one of your topics are relevant to Marketing; the first one.
>>> >
>>> > The other topics are best suited for the board, or the mailing lists.
>>> >
>>> > Please don’t try to hold new meetings just to avoid the existing
>>> meetings and collaborations?  Work to build consensus rather than dividing
>>> into more subgroups.
>>> >
>>> > I don't understand this part of the mail. Avoid existing meetings and
>>> collaboration?
>>> >
>>> > Could you throw more light on these points.
>>> >
>>> > > On 12 Oct 2018, at 1:27 am, Samson Goddy 
>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > Hello All,
>>> > >
>>> > > Since 2016 [1], we haven't really talked about the marketing plan
>>> for SL. I am making an open call for have a meeting by tomorrow.  17:00 UTC
>>> [2]
>>> > >
>>> > > Share your thought?
>>> > >
>>> > > Topics ranging from;
>>> > >
>>> > > 1. Outreach (SL Ambassador, swag)
>>> > > 2. Sugar roadmap
>>> > > 3. Sugar Labs goals [3]
>>> > > 4. Deployment
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > [1] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team
>>> > > [2] https://www.worldtimeserver.com/convert_time_in_UTC.aspx
>>> > > [3] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Goals/2018_Submissions
>>> > > --
>>> > >
>>> > > Samson Goddy
>>> > > Twitter: https://twitter.com/samson_goddy
>>> > > Email: samsongo...@sugarlabs.org
>>> > > samsongo...@gmail.com
>>> > >
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>>> > >
>>> > >
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Re: [Sugar-devel] SL Marketing meeting?

[Samson Goddy]

I don't plan to work alone. I plan to work with everyone. My mail wasn't
specific to any group of persons.

I add "thought" for more ideas of what to discuss because it is open.

It is an open space anyone can contribute.

Regards

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018, 8:05 AM James Cameron  wrote:

> Marketing related?  So is everything we do.
>
> Don’t exclude the people who aren’t willing to meet in yet another
> meeting?  If you do, you’ll just be ignored.  Let’s work together instead.
>
> > On 12 Oct 2018, at 7:55 am, Samson Goddy  wrote:
> >
> > Noted, but I also believe they are Marketing related.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 11, 2018, 9:43 PM James Cameron  wrote:
> > Only one of your topics are relevant to Marketing; the first one.
> >
> > The other topics are best suited for the board, or the mailing lists.
> >
> > Please don’t try to hold new meetings just to avoid the existing
> meetings and collaborations?  Work to build consensus rather than dividing
> into more subgroups.
> >
> > I don't understand this part of the mail. Avoid existing meetings and
> collaboration?
> >
> > Could you throw more light on these points.
> >
> > > On 12 Oct 2018, at 1:27 am, Samson Goddy 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello All,
> > >
> > > Since 2016 [1], we haven't really talked about the marketing plan for
> SL. I am making an open call for have a meeting by tomorrow.  17:00 UTC [2]
> > >
> > > Share your thought?
> > >
> > > Topics ranging from;
> > >
> > > 1. Outreach (SL Ambassador, swag)
> > > 2. Sugar roadmap
> > > 3. Sugar Labs goals [3]
> > > 4. Deployment
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [1] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team
> > > [2] https://www.worldtimeserver.com/convert_time_in_UTC.aspx
> > > [3] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Goals/2018_Submissions
> > > --
> > >
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> > > Twitter: https://twitter.com/samson_goddy
> > > Email: samsongo...@sugarlabs.org
> > > samsongo...@gmail.com
> > >
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Re: [Sugar-devel] SL Marketing meeting?

[Samson Goddy]

Noted, but I also believe they are Marketing related.



On Thu, Oct 11, 2018, 9:43 PM James Cameron  wrote:

> Only one of your topics are relevant to Marketing; the first one.
>
> The other topics are best suited for the board, or the mailing lists.
>
> Please don’t try to hold new meetings just to avoid the existing meetings
> and collaborations?  Work to build consensus rather than dividing into more
> subgroups.
>

I don't understand this part of the mail. Avoid existing meetings and
collaboration?

Could you throw more light on these points.

>
> > On 12 Oct 2018, at 1:27 am, Samson Goddy  wrote:
> >
> > Hello All,
> >
> > Since 2016 [1], we haven't really talked about the marketing plan for
> SL. I am making an open call for have a meeting by tomorrow.  17:00 UTC [2]
> >
> > Share your thought?
> >
> > Topics ranging from;
> >
> > 1. Outreach (SL Ambassador, swag)
> > 2. Sugar roadmap
> > 3. Sugar Labs goals [3]
> > 4. Deployment
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [1] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team
> > [2] https://www.worldtimeserver.com/convert_time_in_UTC.aspx
> > [3] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Goals/2018_Submissions
> > --
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Re: [Sugar-devel] SL Marketing meeting?

[Samson Goddy]

I will be moving the meeting to next week Friday. Same time

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018, 3:43 PM Rishabh Thaney 
wrote:

> Sure, sounds good. Looking forward to it.
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 8:10 PM Jaskirat Singh 
> wrote:
>
>> That sounds good.
>>
>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2018, 7:27 am Samson Goddy,  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> Since 2016 [1], we haven't really talked about the marketing plan for
>>> SL. I am making an open call for have a meeting by tomorrow.  17:00 UTC [2]
>>>
>>> Share your thought?
>>>
>>> Topics ranging from;
>>>
>>> 1. Outreach (SL Ambassador, swag)
>>> 2. Sugar roadmap
>>> 3. Sugar Labs goals [3]
>>> 4. Deployment
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team
>>> [2] https://www.worldtimeserver.com/convert_time_in_UTC.aspx
>>> [3] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Goals/2018_Submissions
>>> <https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Goals/2018_Submissions>
>>> --
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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[Sugar-devel] SL Marketing meeting?

[Samson Goddy]

Hello All,

Since 2016 [1], we haven't really talked about the marketing plan for SL. I
am making an open call for have a meeting by tomorrow.  17:00 UTC [2]

Share your thought?

Topics ranging from;

1. Outreach (SL Ambassador, swag)
2. Sugar roadmap
3. Sugar Labs goals [3]
4. Deployment







[1] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team
[2] https://www.worldtimeserver.com/convert_time_in_UTC.aspx
[3] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Goals/2018_Submissions
<https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Goals/2018_Submissions>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] Meeting Reminder

[Samson Goddy]

I don't know if this will solve the problem... But Zulip is a good chat
platform. Currently using it on my project, the community behind it host
open source orgs for free. It is light, but not as light as what we use.


https://zulipchat.com

On Thu, Oct 4, 2018, 11:36 PM Walter Bender  wrote:

> I put instructions on how to register on Freenode in the wiki (as part of
> a landing page for every GCI task.) I am assuming people will be able to
> manage. As for SLOB meetings, the regulars also should be able to manage.
>
> (We've discussed before about using Sugar chat -- dogfooding -- for our
> meetings. I'd be game.)
>
> -walter
>
> On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 6:33 PM James Cameron  wrote:
>
>> At the moment the issue with Freenode requires all of us to register
>> before we can speak.
>>
>> This impacts new people.  It makes their joining as complicated as any
>> other service with registration requirements.
>>
>> As D. Joe has observed, if we had our people watching, we could notice
>> new people to let them speak.  We would need to enable this, and somehow
>> cover the different time zones.  As we don’t have enough coverage now to
>> answer the simplest questions from the people we have, we would need some
>> commitment.  That would be the next step in that plan.
>>
>> I don’t know of any other service we could use that doesn’t require some
>> sort of registration.
>>
>> We might set up an IRC server ourselves, but then we take on the defence
>> problem that Freenode does for us.
>>
>> We do have a Jabber server, but I don’t know if it has been attacked in
>> the same way.
>>
>> On 5 Oct 2018, at 07:38, Walter Bender  wrote:
>>
>> We will be meeting tomorrow (Friday, 5 October) at 20UTC [1] (4PM in
>> Boston) on irc.freenode.net #sugar-meeting (See [2]).
>>
>> Note that there has been a SPAM issue on Freenode of late (See the email
>> from James I have forwarded below). We should discuss potential solutions.
>>
>> Also on the agenda:
>>
>> * GSoC travel
>> * GCI 2018
>> * [your topic here]
>>
>> regards.
>>
>> -walter
>>
>> [1] https://www.worldtimeserver.com/convert_time_in_UTC.aspx
>> [2] https://webchat.freenode.net/
>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOB] Jaskirat travel

[Samson Goddy]

Seconded


Regards

On Wed, Oct 3, 2018, 7:41 PM Walter Bender  wrote:

> As per the discussion with Brett [sfconservancy.org #1917], Jaskirat has
> asked for a travel advance for his trip to Google, where he will be
> representing Sugar Labs at both the GSOC Meetup and the Mentor Summit. The
> details of his trip can be found here [1].
>
> Jaskirat has worked hard to accommodate the concerns raised by several of
> us regarding his proposed budget. I think it is with scope and compliant
> with SFC rules.
>
> MOTION: Approve Jaskarit's attendance of the GSoC Meetup while he is
> traveling for the GSoC Mentor Summit and a travel advance of US $712.
>
> This is somewhat timely, so please try to respond ASAP.
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
>
>
> [1]
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Y-W8kR2-zmy2XRskBzRIEjASiMWTbcviK9uDf3V0GJQ/edit?usp=sharing
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOB] Jaskirat travel

[Samson Goddy]

+1 for me.



Regards

On Wed, Oct 3, 2018, 8:09 PM Anmol Mishra 
wrote:

> +1
>
> On Thu 4 Oct, 2018, 00:11 Walter Bender,  wrote:
>
>> As per the discussion with Brett [sfconservancy.org #1917], Jaskirat has
>> asked for a travel advance for his trip to Google, where he will be
>> representing Sugar Labs at both the GSOC Meetup and the Mentor Summit. The
>> details of his trip can be found here [1].
>>
>> Jaskirat has worked hard to accommodate the concerns raised by several of
>> us regarding his proposed budget. I think it is with scope and compliant
>> with SFC rules.
>>
>> MOTION: Approve Jaskarit's attendance of the GSoC Meetup while he is
>> traveling for the GSoC Mentor Summit and a travel advance of US $712.
>>
>> This is somewhat timely, so please try to respond ASAP.
>>
>> regards.
>>
>> -walter
>>
>>
>> [1]
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Y-W8kR2-zmy2XRskBzRIEjASiMWTbcviK9uDf3V0GJQ/edit?usp=sharing
>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] GCI

[Samson Goddy]

Awesome.




On Tue, Sep 18, 2018, 8:18 PM Walter Bender  wrote:

> We have been accepted. Now the real work begins. I'll be in touch shortly
> with more details.
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOB] motion regarding GSoC mentor travel

[Samson Goddy]

Seconded,

I believe that members should  use opportunities like Gsoc to Meetup fellow
members.


Regards

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018, 8:17 PM Walter Bender  wrote:

> Background: Google has provided SL with $3000 towards mentor travel to the
> October summit. ($3300 - the SFC 10%) although we have yet to receive $1100
> of the funds. We have also received $5400 in mentor "stipends" ($6000 - the
> SFC 10%). As you may recall, we are sending three people, Devin, Jaskirat,
> and Shrivank. Only Jaskirat is traveling internationally, so the best
> estimate is that the travel will come in on budget. As we did last year, we
> could apply some of the mentor stipend $$ to cover any overruns. (Note we
> have already approved a previous motion to approve a travel advance for
> Jaskirat to attend the Google Summer of Code mentor summit in October 2018.
> [1])
>
> The SFC estimates a cost increase in Jaskirat's ticket of $400-$500 due to
> his intention to travel some while in the States (to visit some Sugar Labs
> people and his cousin in DC.) Jaskirat is paying for his domestic travel,
> but the round trip in and out of SF is apparently less expensive, hence the
> need for SLOB approval. IMHO, we should be extending opportunities for
> community members whenever possible.
>
> Motion: To approve the additional cost associated with Jaskirat's ticket
> to and from the GSoC summit as calculated by the SFC. If for some reason
> the total budget for GSoC summit travel exceeds $3000, we can apply
> Jaskirat's and my share of the GSoC mentor stipend to cover the overrun.
>
> This is somewhat timely as tickets need to be purchased.
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
>
> [1] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2018-August/055603.html
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Brett Smith via RT 
> Date: Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 12:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [sfconservancy.org #1845] Additional US flight expenditures
> for Jaskirat Singh
> To: 
> Cc: 
>
>
> On 09/18/2018 12:46 PM, Adam Holt via RT wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 12:21 PM, Brett Smith via RT <
> approv...@tix.sfconservancy.org> wrote:
>
>> Adam and team,
>>
>> Jaskirat Singh is planning additional travel in the US after the GSoC
>> mentor summit. Some of it is personal,
>
>
> Hi Brett,
>
> Travel funds for the GSoC mentor summit do not include personal side trips.
>
> Adam,
>
> Yes, to be clear, our travel policy states: “Travelers may seek approval
> to book travel itineraries that include extra days for personal reasons, *so
> long as the cost of the flight meets the other requirements of this Policy*.”
> Additional expense *just* for personal reasons isn’t permitted, and if
> that was the case here, I would’ve declined without even asking you. The
> planned meetings with other collaborators meant it was at least potentially
> project-related, so that’s why I checked.
>
> I’ll work with him to see what he wants to do but I won’t book additional
> travel with him unless/until you tell me otherwise.
>
> Thanks for your prompt response,
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [IAEP] [SLOB] GCI 2018

[Samson Goddy]

I am interested in becoming a mentor this year.

so +1 from me.

On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 9:43 PM Ignacio Rodríguez 
wrote:

> I'll second.
> I'll have more time this year to mentor and be admin if required.
>
> Greetings,
> Ignacio.-
>
> On Fri, Sep 7, 2018, 5:42 PM Walter Bender 
> wrote:
>
>> We seem to have sufficient interest from the community to apply to Google
>> Code-in again this year. Lots of returning mentors and some students who
>> have morphed into mentors as well. But I will not apply w/o SLOB approval.
>>
>> Motion: Sugar Labs will apply to participate in Google Code-in 2018.
>> Walter will be the primary administrator.
>>
>> Time in of the essence as the schedule this year has applications
>> starting this week, so please respond ASAP.
>>
>> regards.
>>
>> -walter
>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: [GCI-mentors] GCI 2018 org applications open September 6-17 - contest begins October 23rd for students

[Samson Goddy]

It gonna be interesting

On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 2:46 AM Devin Ulibarri 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Certainly.
>
> Devin
>
> On Thu, 2018-08-30 at 00:02 +0100, Glide wrote:
>
> Would love to participate!
>
> Cheers.
>
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 10:14 PM James Cameron  wrote:
>
> I'm looking forward to it.
>
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 05:09:50PM -0400, Walter Bender wrote:
> >
> > Note that everything is pushed ahead by 1 month.
> > Any interest in participating this year?
> >
> > regards.
> >
> > -walter
> > -- Forwarded message -
> > From: Google Code-in Mentors <[1]gci-ment...@googlegroups.com>
> > Date: Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 3:34 PM
> > Subject: [GCI-mentors] GCI 2018 org applications open September 6-17 -
> contest
> > begins October 23rd for students
> > To: Google Code-in Mentors <[2]gci-ment...@googlegroups.com>
> >
> > Hello GCI mentors,
> >
> > We are pleased to announce[3] Google Code-in (GCI) 2018, the 9th
> consecutive
> > year of our contest for pre-university students ages 13-17. Please be
> aware GCI
> > will start about a month earlier this year than in previous years - the
> contest
> > starts for students October 23rd!
> >
> > The GCI timeline, FAQs, Rules and flyers have been updated on the[4]
> contest
> > site.
> >
> > Organizations -- If you would like to apply for the 2018 program please
> start
> > thinking about the tasks you would like students to work on and reach
> out to
> > your community members to ask if they would like to be mentors for the
> program.
> > Organization applications open for GCI orgs next week on Thursday,
> September
> > 6th, and close less than 2 weeks later on Monday, September 17th. We will
> > announce organizations on Tuesday, September 18th giving orgs 5 weeks to
> create
> > their tasks before the contest begins on October 23rd.
> >
> > The major changes for GCI 2018 are:
> >
> >   • Orgs will evaluate the 20 students completing the most tasks with
> their org
> > when deciding on finalists and winners
> >
> >   • Orgs will choose 6 finalists (instead of 5)
> >
> >   • We have renamed the User Interface category to Design
> >
> >   • Students will have to wait until Google reviews their Parental
> Consent form
> > before they can claim their first task. This will slow things down
> but it
> > is a requirement to be able to continue the program.
> >
> >   • No tasks asking for personal information about students will be
> allowed
> > (this includes tasks asking for students to introduce themselves
> with info
> > like what country they are from, or photos of the students, etc.).
> >
> > We are looking to continue the growth of this program and reach a record
> number
> > of teenagers this year! Read more on today’s[5] blog post.
> >
> > If you have any questions about Google Code-in please contact us at [6]
> > gci-supp...@google.com
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Stephanie and Mary
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Windows

[Samson Goddy]

Yes,

Really Amazing I will going to test it




On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 10:59 PM Dave Crossland  wrote:

> Amazing news!! I think this is huge :) congratulations on making this
> happen :)
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [IAEP] [sfconservancy.org #1322] For Approval: Jaskirat Singh funding and advance for travel to GSoC mentor summit

[Samson Goddy]

+1

On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 5:54 PM Rishabh Thaney 
wrote:

> +1
>
> On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 7:30 PM Claudia Urrea 
> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 6:38 PM, Ignacio Rodríguez > > wrote:
>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 7:37 PM, Samson Goddy 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Seconded
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Aug 18, 2018, 1:32 AM Walter Bender 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A bit of context:
>>>>>
>>>>> We are assigned 3 slots for GSoC mentors to attend the mentor summit.
>>>>> I am hoping that Devin and Jaskirat will be able to attend, along with one
>>>>> TBD. We will get $3300 from Google to cover all of the expenses, which
>>>>> should easily cover Devin (domestic travel)  and Jaskirat (international)
>>>>> and one more domestic traveler. (Google will also be covering the local
>>>>> hotel and meal expenses.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Motion: To approve a travel advance for Jaskirat to attend the Google
>>>>> Summer of Code mentor summit in October 2018.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>
>>>>> -walter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 5:15 PM Brett Smith via RT <
>>>>> approv...@tix.sfconservancy.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi SLOBs,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jaskirat Singh is traveling to the GSoC mentor summit.  Because he's
>>>>>> coming from India, he's asked us to prepay a number of expenses, which
>>>>>> we're happy to do as long as you approve.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First, he has requested an advance of 43,700.00 INR (about $625) to
>>>>>> cover expenses related to getting his visa and ground transportation in
>>>>>> India.  He provided this budget:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> VISA Fees - 11200 INR
>>>>>> Travelling agent and Consultant charges - 7000 INR
>>>>>> As i have to travel for the VISA Documentation and Interview to other
>>>>>> states so for that i have 2 dates consecutively ( VISA appointment letter
>>>>>> attached), So for that Hotel Charge for 1 night and 2 days - 7000 INR
>>>>>> Meals for this purpose ( 2 days ) - 2000 INR (approx.)
>>>>>> Taxi fare from my location to the US Embassy - 4000 INR + toll and
>>>>>> taxes ( approx ).
>>>>>> As per the rules VISA Documentation and Interview takes place at
>>>>>> different place and VISA Collection gets issued from the different 
>>>>>> location
>>>>>> which is the part of another state, so for that Taxi Fare - 2500 INR
>>>>>> Taxi fare from Home to Airport - 5000 INR + toll and taxes ( approx )
>>>>>> Taxi fare from airport to back Home - 5000 INR + toll and taxes (
>>>>>> approx )
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please let us know whether or not you approve sending him money for
>>>>>> these expenses ahead of time.  We'll still ask him to provide receipts
>>>>>> after the fact as required for all travel under our policies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note that, between this advance and the flight he's asking us to
>>>>>> book, Jaskirat's travel is likely to exceed $1,000, meaning some of it 
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> be paid out of Sugar's general fund and not covered by the money coming
>>>>>> from Google for GSoC.  Please let us know what total travel budget you're
>>>>>> willing to set for Jaskirat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Brett Smith
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [sfconservancy.org #1322] For Approval: Jaskirat Singh funding and advance for travel to GSoC mentor summit

[Samson Goddy]

Seconded

On Sat, Aug 18, 2018, 1:32 AM Walter Bender  wrote:

> A bit of context:
>
> We are assigned 3 slots for GSoC mentors to attend the mentor summit. I am
> hoping that Devin and Jaskirat will be able to attend, along with one TBD.
> We will get $3300 from Google to cover all of the expenses, which should
> easily cover Devin (domestic travel)  and Jaskirat (international) and one
> more domestic traveler. (Google will also be covering the local hotel and
> meal expenses.)
>
> Motion: To approve a travel advance for Jaskirat to attend the Google
> Summer of Code mentor summit in October 2018.
>
> Regards.
>
> -walter
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 5:15 PM Brett Smith via RT <
> approv...@tix.sfconservancy.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi SLOBs,
>>
>> Jaskirat Singh is traveling to the GSoC mentor summit.  Because he's
>> coming from India, he's asked us to prepay a number of expenses, which
>> we're happy to do as long as you approve.
>>
>> First, he has requested an advance of 43,700.00 INR (about $625) to cover
>> expenses related to getting his visa and ground transportation in India.
>> He provided this budget:
>>
>> VISA Fees - 11200 INR
>> Travelling agent and Consultant charges - 7000 INR
>> As i have to travel for the VISA Documentation and Interview to other
>> states so for that i have 2 dates consecutively ( VISA appointment letter
>> attached), So for that Hotel Charge for 1 night and 2 days - 7000 INR
>> Meals for this purpose ( 2 days ) - 2000 INR (approx.)
>> Taxi fare from my location to the US Embassy - 4000 INR + toll and taxes
>> ( approx ).
>> As per the rules VISA Documentation and Interview takes place at
>> different place and VISA Collection gets issued from the different location
>> which is the part of another state, so for that Taxi Fare - 2500 INR
>> Taxi fare from Home to Airport - 5000 INR + toll and taxes ( approx )
>> Taxi fare from airport to back Home - 5000 INR + toll and taxes ( approx )
>>
>> Please let us know whether or not you approve sending him money for these
>> expenses ahead of time.  We'll still ask him to provide receipts after the
>> fact as required for all travel under our policies.
>>
>> Note that, between this advance and the flight he's asking us to book,
>> Jaskirat's travel is likely to exceed $1,000, meaning some of it will be
>> paid out of Sugar's general fund and not covered by the money coming from
>> Google for GSoC.  Please let us know what total travel budget you're
>> willing to set for Jaskirat.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> --
>> Brett Smith
>>
>
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [Motion]Re: [SLOB] approval needed for Bender's GCI travel expenses

[Samson Goddy]

+1 from me

On Sat, Jul 7, 2018, 3:54 PM Adam Holt  wrote:

> +1
>
> On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 9:16 AM, Lionel Laské 
> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> Lionel
>>
>> 2018-07-07 14:56 GMT+02:00 Ignacio Rodríguez :
>>
>>> I'll second it
>>>
>>> El sáb., 7 de jul. de 2018 08:47, Samson Goddy 
>>> escribió:
>>>
>>>> Dear SLOBs,
>>>>
>>>> Motion: To approve Walter's $614.03 reimbursement request. I would
>>>> like if this motion will be seconded. So we can process to voting.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Samson
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2018, 3:55 AM Walter Bender 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Fellow oversight board members,
>>>>>
>>>>> I would appreciate if someone would propose a motion as per Bradley's
>>>>> email below so that I can get reimbursed for my travel to the Google 
>>>>> Mentor
>>>>> Summit.
>>>>>
>>>>> thx.
>>>>>
>>>>> -walter
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Forwarded message -
>>>>> From: Bradley M. Kuhn via RT 
>>>>> Date: Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 8:04 PM
>>>>> Subject: [sfconservancy.org #898] SLOBS approval needed for Bender's
>>>>> GCI travel expenses.
>>>>> To: 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Walter Bender via RT wrote on Sunday,  1 July:
>>>>> > As you know, Google sponsors one mentor from each participating org to
>>>>> > attend the summit and the costs of the trip are passed through to 
>>>>> > Google.
>>>>> ...
>>>>> > Please contact me if you have any further questions.
>>>>>
>>>>> This assessment is actually no longer accurate, and as such, we need
>>>>> approval from SLOBs to proceed with the travel reimbursement, just like we
>>>>> do with any other.  Adam, could you as Representative communicate that 
>>>>> SLOBs
>>>>> approved $614.03 for Walter's travel.
>>>>>
>>>>> Reasons we need such approval are below:
>>>>>
>>>>> The information that Walter relied on to write the above is out of date.  
>>>>> A
>>>>> few years ago, Google changed the nature of the way payments are made for
>>>>> GCI and GSoC.  While, informally, Google requests that a certain part of 
>>>>> the
>>>>> payments be used for travel expenses for the GCI and GSoC Mentor Summits
>>>>> (respectively) there is no longer a formal requirement, agreement, nor
>>>>> arrangement that requires Conservancy (and its Sugar Labs project) to use
>>>>> these funds for that purpose.  Sugar Labs could use the funds for any
>>>>> purpose that fits within the project and Conservancy's charitable mission.
>>>>> Thus, under the FSA with Conservancy, it's up to Sugar Labs to recommend
>>>>> that how we spend the funds.
>>>>>
>>>>> As you decide on whether you'd like to pay the funds for this purpose, 
>>>>> note
>>>>> that Bender's expenses are substantially less than the amount given as a
>>>>> donation for GCI.  Sugar received $7,380.00 total for its participation in
>>>>> GCI 2017
>>>>>
>>>>> Finally, please avoid the phrase "pass through" with regard to funds at
>>>>> Conservancy.  Regardless of any specific donation situation, Conservancy
>>>>> *does not* do any activity as a "pass through" fiscal sponsor.  That 
>>>>> phrase
>>>>> has specific meaning in USA-non-profit circles and that's never what we're
>>>>> doing here, no matter what.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Meanwhile, Walter, there's a receipt missing:
>>>>>
>>>>> > $25 Baggage fee*
>>>>>
>>>>> > * My restricted fare on United did not allow me any luggage beyond a
>>>>> > personal bag for my laptop. I managed on the way out, but could not
>>>>> > manage on the way back, hence I had to check a bag.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is within policy, but it does require a receipt when proposed as a
>>>>> stand-alone expe

[Sugar-devel] [Motion]Re: [SLOB] approval needed for Bender's GCI travel expenses

[Samson Goddy]

Dear SLOBs,

Motion: To approve Walter's $614.03 reimbursement request. I would like if
this motion will be seconded. So we can process to voting.


Regards
Samson

On Sat, Jul 7, 2018, 3:55 AM Walter Bender  wrote:

> Fellow oversight board members,
>
> I would appreciate if someone would propose a motion as per Bradley's
> email below so that I can get reimbursed for my travel to the Google Mentor
> Summit.
>
> thx.
>
> -walter
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Bradley M. Kuhn via RT 
> Date: Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 8:04 PM
> Subject: [sfconservancy.org #898] SLOBS approval needed for Bender's GCI
> travel expenses.
> To: 
>
>
> Walter Bender via RT wrote on Sunday,  1 July:
> > As you know, Google sponsors one mentor from each participating org to
> > attend the summit and the costs of the trip are passed through to Google.
> ...
> > Please contact me if you have any further questions.
>
> This assessment is actually no longer accurate, and as such, we need
> approval from SLOBs to proceed with the travel reimbursement, just like we
> do with any other.  Adam, could you as Representative communicate that SLOBs
> approved $614.03 for Walter's travel.
>
> Reasons we need such approval are below:
>
> The information that Walter relied on to write the above is out of date.  A
> few years ago, Google changed the nature of the way payments are made for
> GCI and GSoC.  While, informally, Google requests that a certain part of the
> payments be used for travel expenses for the GCI and GSoC Mentor Summits
> (respectively) there is no longer a formal requirement, agreement, nor
> arrangement that requires Conservancy (and its Sugar Labs project) to use
> these funds for that purpose.  Sugar Labs could use the funds for any
> purpose that fits within the project and Conservancy's charitable mission.
> Thus, under the FSA with Conservancy, it's up to Sugar Labs to recommend
> that how we spend the funds.
>
> As you decide on whether you'd like to pay the funds for this purpose, note
> that Bender's expenses are substantially less than the amount given as a
> donation for GCI.  Sugar received $7,380.00 total for its participation in
> GCI 2017
>
> Finally, please avoid the phrase "pass through" with regard to funds at
> Conservancy.  Regardless of any specific donation situation, Conservancy
> *does not* do any activity as a "pass through" fiscal sponsor.  That phrase
> has specific meaning in USA-non-profit circles and that's never what we're
> doing here, no matter what.
>
>
>
> Meanwhile, Walter, there's a receipt missing:
>
> > $25 Baggage fee*
>
> > * My restricted fare on United did not allow me any luggage beyond a
> > personal bag for my laptop. I managed on the way out, but could not
> > manage on the way back, hence I had to check a bag.
>
> This is within policy, but it does require a receipt when proposed as a
> stand-alone expense.  It looks like you didn't attach the receipt.  (I
> noticed you attached the same file twice, so I suspect that there is another
> file of receipts we haven't gotten yet).
>
> AFIAK, all major airline give a receipt for checked luggage at the time they
> collect payment.  If you lost that, in my experience, you can get the
> receipt from the airline's website from your account after the fact.
>
> Please send along the $25 receipt.  Everything else seems well documented.
>
> Note in future you don't need to include receipts for M&IE; please take a
> look at the travel policy section regarding that:
>   https://sfconservancy.org/projects/policies/conservancy-travel-policy.html
>
>
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and time change

[Samson Goddy]

Good for me

On Thu, Jul 5, 2018, 5:50 PM Walter Bender  wrote:

> We have our regular Sugar Labs Oversight Board meeting scheduled for
> Friday, 6 July. Unfortunately I have a conflict at 20:00 UTC. Can we meet
> at 21:00 UTC?
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOB] Action required: Devin Ulibarri travel/stipend

[Samson Goddy]

Seconded





- Samson

On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 3:35 PM, Walter Bender 
wrote:

> I was hoping to discuss this at the May meeting, but no one was able to
> attend that meeting.
>
> Devin went to Japan to run some Music Blocks workshops. We had allocated a
> budget for him was US $1200 for his ticket and US $50 for local expenses
> (See [1]). Devin incurred some additional expenses above and beyond what we
> budgeted -- extra local travel and some equipment needed for the workshops
> (speakers).
>
> One of the schools he visited -- the Yokohama Science Frontiers school --
> offered Devin an honorarium of ~US $500, which they sent to the SFC.  ,These
> funds would cover his additional costs. The SFC won't release this money
> without our approval. It would amount to US $450 after the 10% allocation
> by the SFC.
>
> Motion: Approve the payment of US $450 as an honorarium to Devin Ulibarri
> for his workshops in Japan.
>
> I don't think there is anything controversial here, but of course, your
> feedback (and community feedback) is most appreciated.
>
> Someone would have to second this motion so that we can vote on it.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -walter
>
> [1] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Decisions#2018-01-09
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[Sugar-devel] Sugar on Chrome Books?

[Samson Goddy]

Hello all,

 I was doing some light readings and I saw this [1]. Linux in chrome books
according to Google. According to the source, Google also plan to make
chrome books available in classrooms.


[1] https://www.engadget.com/2018/05/08/chrome-os-linux-support-official/
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Re: [Sugar-devel] PLEASE REVIEW

[Samson Goddy]

First switch your documents from PDF and upload on Google doc.. give
comment access, you have about 3 hours more.

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 12:29 PM tola temitope  wrote:

> Good day all, Please i want my project reviewed by the mentors and others
>
> Thanks
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [GSoC] Proposal Draft of Sugarlabs Social Project

[Samson Goddy]

Could you give a comment access on the doc? To make it easier?

On Sun, Mar 25, 2018, 9:29 PM 罗文博  wrote:

> To whom it may concern:
>
> Hi! My name is Wenbo Luo, a year 3 student from the Chinese University of
> Hong Kong (Shenzhen). I have sent you a GSoC Self-introduction days ago and
> I have received your advice which are very kind and helpful.
>
> Here is the link to my draft:
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qbN4idA9P6rOBtwJZXzN4qo8R2ljLvgNhrNInBb84aU/edit?usp=sharing
>
> I will work on this proposal before due. I know it's almost due but still
> I sincerely hope that you could offer some advice.
>
> Thank you all the same.
>
> Best Regards,
> Wenbo Luo
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[Sugar-devel] Linux on Windows 10

[Samson Goddy]

Hello all,

Here is an interesting article about the recent partnership with Microsoft
to allow Linux Distros freely run alongside Windows.

So I think this is good news, as it help translate "making sugar available"
for all machine due to this new development.

https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/commandline/2018/03/06/debian-gnulinux-for-wsl-now-available-in-the-windows-store/

Happy reading

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOB] meeting reminder

[Samson Goddy]

Hello all,

I and Caryl have been working all month on the Education Team that was
discussed in the previous meeting, see proposal[1]. The aim of the project
is a build a team of educators that will help the community and keep
sugar/izer scalable for teachers and parents.



[1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/161qehOW49uO5_
Ti8YEfHyydKWLbDBjlYwwgCYWqDYKs/edit?usp=sharing

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 9:02 PM, Walter Bender 
wrote:

> Our next Sugar Labs oversight board meeting is Friday, 2 March at 20:00
> UTC. (I've included a link to a UTC converter [1]).
>
> Among other topics of discussion will be Google Summer of Code and 2018
> Goals.
>
> Hope to see you in irc.freenode.net #sugar-meeting [2]
>
> [1] https://www.worldtimeserver.com/convert_time_in_UTC.aspx
>
> [2] chat.sugarlabs.org
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] New pull request reviewers; Rahul and Yash

[Samson Goddy]

Congratulations guys...

On Feb 23, 2018 5:01 AM, "Dave Crossland"  wrote:

> Congrats guys!
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Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC is for coding projects

[Samson Goddy]

Thanks James,

I don't know if you noticed, yes I don't think. I hosted an Open Source /
Gsoc bootcamp in my City Port Harcourt[1]. With partnership with the
Riverstate Government. We had about 300 university students who knows
nothing or zero knowledge of what Open Source community / project was until
that event. Josh Simmons was one of the remote speakers for my event, he
spoke live via Google Hangouts. Walter also did honored my invitation to
speak also. Josh in almost 1 hour explained what Open Source and Gsoc was.

I remember meeting with the Open Source team at Google, at the mentor
summit last year. Chris, Will, Stephanie, Josh, Mary. I was given about 70
Google T-shirts to use to promote Google Open Source in Nigeria. Which is
really fun.

So you explain my point, a coding project that will be complicated enough
to last for three months. I will also work on the "Sugar Labs Social" I am
just having issues with my internet for now. Mobile phones only.

[1] http://techativeng.com/2018/02/05/gsoc-bootcamp-port-harcourt-2018/

On Feb 15, 2018 9:30 AM, "James Cameron"  wrote:

> At linux.conf.au 2018 I met with Joshua Simmons and Stephanie Taylor,
> who are deeply involved with the Google Code-in (GCi) and Google
> Summer of Code (GSoC).
>
> Again yesterday I met with Joshua Simmons.
>
> Their official line is that GSoC is for coding.  In particular, for
> three months full time coding by one person.
>
> HTML and CSS count as languages for coding; but then the project would
> have to be complicated enough to keep someone busy for three months.
> e.g. a conversion of a massive archive of HTML to new styles.
>
> For projects on our list that are exclusively HTML and CSS, it is hard
> to see how they are three months of work in those languages.  But I've
> suggested to a mentor on IRC that this can be easily fixed by adding
> more coding.
>
> I'll paraphrase in order to reinforce;
>
> - projects may have some non-coding as long as they are mostly
> coding,
>
> - projects can't be mostly non-coding and have only some coding.
>
> I've moved the non-coding projects to a subpage to get them out of the
> way, clearly mark them, and yet not lose the valuable input they
> represent.  I appreciate the time that has gone into these.
>
> GCi is different.  GCi explicitly has non-coding tasks.  It's easy to
> conflate the two.  ;-)
>
> I'm grateful that Joshua and Stephanie were able to spare me the time
> to meet.  It was very helpful.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC is for coding projects

[Samson Goddy]

Forgive my wrong use of English, my autocorrect and auto suggest keyboard
features is affecting me 😂.

Mailing from my mobile phone

On Feb 15, 2018 12:27 AM, "Samson Goddy"  wrote:

>
>
> On Feb 14, 2018 11:39 PM, "James Cameron"  wrote:
>
> Four more tasks should be struck out; these would be very helpful to
> Sugar Labs, but are non-programming; content creation or aggregation;
>
> - Making a marketing animated website page of Sugar Labs,
>
> - Sugar Labs Social,
>
> Hello James,
>
>   "Sugar Labs Social" is very familiar to last year project "Redesign
> www-sugarlabs" but with a focuse. I have been receiving some feedbacks from
> members / newcomers about Sugar Labs having a place contributors could
> write documentation about new features and things around Sugar Labs
> something planet.sugarlabs.org was supposed to do.
>
> Since just migrating planet.sugarlabs.org to use medium.com API is too
> simple to be judge as a Gsoc project. So I decided to merge with with a
> platform with almost the same features with http://scratched.gse.harvard.
> edu does for the Scratch community.
>
> The Educational team need this project, so i quickly merged list if ideas
> to one project to make it Gsoc worthy.
>
> A place for educators and parents to hangout share lessons plans. Also a
> place where users can write about Sugar Labs using Medium like platform.
>
> So I am beginning to lose the understanding of what is "Gsoc" worthy
> project should look like. Because this is a programming project.
>
> I can't speak for other tasks because I am not it creators. But I see
> almost every task their worthy of Gsoc. The reason for Gsoc is to introduce
> students to Open Source world. I saw Lionel questions to the Gsoc list, I
> saw the reply and I fully understand what they meant.
>
>
> - Making a Beginner Guide,
>
> - Migration of wiki activity pages to git,
>
> Rather than strike them out, an alternative is to rephrase them as
> _only_ the programming task they contain.  For migration of Wiki
> activity pages to GitHub, this could be "write a program to migrate
> the pages that will be tested extensively and then used only once."
>
> I'd make these changes myself for tasks I'm mentoring, but I'm not
> mentoring any tasks.  I'll place that responsibility on the mentors;
>
> - Making a marketing animated website page of Sugar Labs; Samson,
>   Hrishi, and Jaskirat.
>
> - Sugar Labs Social; Shivang, Hrishi, Samson, and Jaskirat,
>
> - Making a Beginner Guide; Samson, Shivang, Rishabh, Hrishi, Walter
>   and Jaskirat.
>
> - Migration of wiki activity pages to git; "Activity team", which
>   means nobody specific?
>
> +CC these; as I'm not sure if they are on sugar-devel@
>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC is for coding projects

[Samson Goddy]

On Feb 14, 2018 11:39 PM, "James Cameron"  wrote:

Four more tasks should be struck out; these would be very helpful to
Sugar Labs, but are non-programming; content creation or aggregation;

- Making a marketing animated website page of Sugar Labs,

- Sugar Labs Social,

Hello James,

  "Sugar Labs Social" is very familiar to last year project "Redesign
www-sugarlabs" but with a focuse. I have been receiving some feedbacks from
members / newcomers about Sugar Labs having a place contributors could
write documentation about new features and things around Sugar Labs
something planet.sugarlabs.org was supposed to do.

Since just migrating planet.sugarlabs.org to use medium.com API is too
simple to be judge as a Gsoc project. So I decided to merge with with a
platform with almost the same features with http://scratched.gse.harvard.edu
does for the Scratch community.

The Educational team need this project, so i quickly merged list if ideas
to one project to make it Gsoc worthy.

A place for educators and parents to hangout share lessons plans. Also a
place where users can write about Sugar Labs using Medium like platform.

So I am beginning to lose the understanding of what is "Gsoc" worthy
project should look like. Because this is a programming project.

I can't speak for other tasks because I am not it creators. But I see
almost every task their worthy of Gsoc. The reason for Gsoc is to introduce
students to Open Source world. I saw Lionel questions to the Gsoc list, I
saw the reply and I fully understand what they meant.


- Making a Beginner Guide,

- Migration of wiki activity pages to git,

Rather than strike them out, an alternative is to rephrase them as
_only_ the programming task they contain.  For migration of Wiki
activity pages to GitHub, this could be "write a program to migrate
the pages that will be tested extensively and then used only once."

I'd make these changes myself for tasks I'm mentoring, but I'm not
mentoring any tasks.  I'll place that responsibility on the mentors;

- Making a marketing animated website page of Sugar Labs; Samson,
  Hrishi, and Jaskirat.

- Sugar Labs Social; Shivang, Hrishi, Samson, and Jaskirat,

- Making a Beginner Guide; Samson, Shivang, Rishabh, Hrishi, Walter
  and Jaskirat.

- Migration of wiki activity pages to git; "Activity team", which
  means nobody specific?

+CC these; as I'm not sure if they are on sugar-devel@

-CC slobs@

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOB] workshop travel motion

[Samson Goddy]

Outreach programs like this is healthy to the community. I am very happy
for movement  in Asia.

Thanks Devin.


I second the Motion.



-Samson

On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 2:50 AM, Walter Bender 
wrote:

> Devin Ulibarri is returning from Japan, where he ran a number of Music
> Blocks workshops. While he was there, he also met with METI (the Japanese
> ministry of economics, trade, and industry), which has a interest in STEM
> education and with whom he initiated talks about doing a large-scale
> initiative in Japan. He has been invited back to follow up on the work at a
> school in Yolohama and to have follow-up meetings with METI. He is
> requesting funds to support his travel:
>
> * between US $800-1200 for airfare; and
> * approximately $40 for local transportation in Japan
>
> He has accomodations accounted for and hence does need funds for a hotel.
>
> Motion 2018-02: Provide Devin Ulibarri with travel money for March
> workshops and follow-up meetings in Japan of an amount not exceeding US
> $1250.
>
> 
>
> Additional background on the trip privided by Devin can be found below:
>
> The main gist is that the Yokohama Frontier High School (
> http://www.edu.city.yokohama.lg.jp/school/hs/sfh/index.cfm/37,html) does
> special science festivals about once a year and they would like me to be
> their special guest in March (3/16). For planning purposes (and for the
> best airfare rate), it is important to know whether the airfare would be
> paid for in advance. I asked if they have a budget to pay for airfare for
> their guests and they do not.
>
> I will try to schedule one or two additional meetings around that time as
> well, if possible. For example, I would like to meet with METI (Ministry of
> Economics, Trade, and Industry) once, perhaps the Friday before, and try to
> do a couple workshop at a middle school in Tokyo that expressed interest.
>
> It is the same school as described in these blogs:
>
> https://musicblocks.net/2018/01/02/translation-of-yokohama-s
> cience-frontier-blog-article-of-devins-visit-on-12-16-2017/
>
> https://musicblocks.net/2018/01/02/devins-travels-in-japan/
>
> (They were impressed with the initial showcase, so they asked me back to
> be the special guest in March. That is how this got started.)
>
> The school is asking for various information (e.g. translated bio,
> translated C.V. and Resume), which I am preparing right now. I am almost
> complete with all of the documents, including a "What is Music Blocks?"
> slideshow presentation in Japanese, of which the most recent draft(s) may
> be accessed at:
>
> https://owncloud.libretools.com/index.php/s/huL6h3MgPf7e9g8
>
> -walter
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Claudia Urrea

[Samson Goddy]

Welcome Claudia!!

On Dec 2, 2017 11:11 PM, "Walter Bender"  wrote:

> I am very please to be able to announce that, by a unanimous decision,
> Claudia Urrea has been appointed to fill the Sugar Labs oversight board
> seat vacated by Laura Vargas. Many of you know Claudia -- she brings a
> depth of experience with Sugar, OLPC, and technology and K-12 education.
> She is a long-time member of our community who has made numerous,
> thoughtful contributions. She is a great addition to the board and I very
> much look forward to working with her in that capacity.
>
> regards.
>
> -walter
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] email motion 2017-19

[Samson Goddy]

Sorry guys, I ran into some internet issue. +1 for me

On Dec 1, 2017 9:47 PM, "Lionel Laské"  wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> Sorry I was online one hour too late. Stupid error on DST.
>
> +1 for me for this motion.
>
>Lionel.
>
>
>
> 2017-12-01 20:35 GMT+01:00 Walter Bender :
>
>> Motion: To appoint Claudia Urrea to the oversight-board seat that opened
>> due to the resignation of Laura Vargas. This temporary appointment would
>> last until the next oversight board election in 2018.
>>
>> This was discussed at today's oversight-board meeting [1], but since we
>> lacked a quorum we could not take a vote. Hence this email. Please respond
>> ASAP.
>>
>> The gist of the discussion was:
>>
>>  #topic replacing Laura on the board
>>  Laura Vargas has resigned her seat on the board. I think
>> we should fill the vacancy with a temporary appointment.
>>  Her seat was up in fall 2018.
>>  So it would be a 9-10 month appointment.
>>  I propose Claudia Urrea
>>  for several reasons:
>>  (1) she got the most votes in the last election (missing a
>> seat on the board by just one vote)
>>  (2) she is very experienced with Sugar and our target
>> audience
>>  (3) she brings academic and education experience to the mix
>>  (4) she is a thoughtful, long-term contributor to the
>> community
>>  (5) and she is a very respectful colleague
>>
>> Her state of objects from the last election can be found at [2].
>>
>> regards.
>>
>> -walter
>>
>> [1] http://meeting.sugarlabs.org/sugar-meeting/meetings/2017
>> -12-01T19:05:26
>> [2] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2017-2019-
>> candidates#Claudia_Urrea
>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Help with setting up sugar-build on Ubuntu 16.04

[Samson Goddy]

To my best of my knowledge, this is not from the sugar-build. There is
something wrong with the terminal, you might be running something under
background.

1. Try restarting the computer, if that doesn't work, do;

2. https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1853026

Try this, and ping again if it works or not.


Regards

Samson



On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 6:22 PM, Utkarsh Tiwari 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The instructions you just mentioned -
>
> for module in sugar{-datastore,-artwork,-toolkit,-toolkit-gtk3,}; do
> dnf builddep $module
> done
>
> works for Fedora whereas I am on Ubuntu 16.04 so I followed the
> instructions for Ubuntu/Debian -
>
> for module in sugar{-datastore,-artwork,-toolkit,-toolkit-gtk3,}; do
> apt build-dep $module
> done
>
> I think I should give it a try on Ubuntu 17.10. Will let you know if I
> come across a solution.
>
> Regards,
> Utkarsh Tiwari
>
> On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 at 21:48 Glide  wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I just checked in the guides, you should be doing this when you want to
>> build, your logs show that you aren't:
>>
>> for module in sugar{-datastore,-artwork,-toolkit,-toolkit-gtk3,}; do
>> dnf builddep $module
>> done
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 6:15 PM, Glide 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey,
>>>
>>> Are you sure you ran the git clone request properly?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Utkarsh Tiwari <
>>> iamutkarshtiw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 Thank you Glide for your suggestion. I tried running the instructions
 in su mode but still getting these issues - https://gist.github.com/
 iamutkarshtiwari/84742d622a1d221bd1c814ce98baa32e

 Regards,
 Utkarsh Tiwari

 On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 at 20:50 Glide  wrote:

> Hello there,
>
> From what i've seen in the logs and to the best of my knowledge, it
> seems you need to run as root, to gain root access, run su in your 
> terminal.
>
> I hope this works for you.
>
> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Utkarsh Tiwari <
> iamutkarshtiw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I am trying to setup sugar-build on my fresh Ubuntu 16.04
>> installation. I tried instructions mentioned in -
>> https://developer.sugarlabs.org/dev-environment.md.html#
>> native%20sugar but I seem to facing issues while trying to run -
>> https://gist.github.com/iamutkarshtiwari/
>> 107558814db2c9ed57f081b9f353536b
>>
>> Here is the log - https://gist.github.com/iamutkarshtiwari/
>> 347a3f13dcfd1eeb0788dda38d95b0e4
>>
>> It would be helpful if someone could guide me if I am missing out
>> something.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Utkarsh Tiwari
>>
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Re: [Sugar-devel] An error occurred while installing json (1.8.6), and Bundler cannot continue. Make sure that `gem install json -v '1.8.6'` succeeds before bundling

[Samson Goddy]

I fixed the first problem, using the link
http://blog.mclaughlinsoftware.com/2015/04/10/install-ruby-on-fedora/

But at the same time, the problem was from Fedora itself, they have issues
with

gcc: error: /usr/lib/rpm/redhat/redhat-hardened-cc1: No such file or
directory

So i fixed it with this command sudo dnf install redhat-rpm-config

But now i am stuck here too.. By laptop power is down.. I have little power
problems


[samson@localhost www-sugarlabs]$ jekyll serve --incremental
WARN: Unresolved specs during Gem::Specification.reset:
  listen (~> 3.0)
WARN: Clearing out unresolved specs.
Please report a bug if this causes problems.
/home/samson/.gem/ruby/2.4.0/gems/bundler-1.16.0/lib/bundler/runtime.rb:313:in
`check_for_activated_spec!': You have already activated addressable 2.5.2,
but your Gemfile requires addressable 2.5.0. Prepending `bundle exec` to
your command may solve this. (Gem::LoadError)
from
/home/samson/.gem/ruby/2.4.0/gems/bundler-1.16.0/lib/bundler/runtime.rb:31:in
`block in setup'
from /usr/share/ruby/forwardable.rb:229:in `each'
from /usr/share/ruby/forwardable.rb:229:in `each'
from
/home/samson/.gem/ruby/2.4.0/gems/bundler-1.16.0/lib/bundler/runtime.rb:26:in
`map'
from
/home/samson/.gem/ruby/2.4.0/gems/bundler-1.16.0/lib/bundler/runtime.rb:26:in
`setup'
from
/home/samson/.gem/ruby/2.4.0/gems/bundler-1.16.0/lib/bundler.rb:107:in
`setup'
from
/usr/local/share/gems/gems/jekyll-3.3.1/lib/jekyll/plugin_manager.rb:36:in
`require_from_bundler'
from /usr/local/share/gems/gems/jekyll-3.3.1/exe/jekyll:9:in `'
from /usr/local/bin/jekyll:23:in `load'
from /usr/local/bin/jekyll:23:in `'

Anyone with good insight could point things out, afterwards we can update
the README.md file.

On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 10:37 PM, James Cameron  wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 02:29:38PM +0100, Samson Goddy wrote:
> > i cloned the www-sugarlabs trying to run it on Fedora 27,
> > after doing
> > bundle install;
> > i keep getting this error
> > [samson@localhost www-sugarlabs]$ bundle install;
> > [...]
> > Anyone will similar issues?
> >
> > Hrishi? Seetaramaraju? James? walter?
>
> Sorry, I'm not familiar with the development tools needed.
>
> Should you discover a fix, such as installing a dependency before
> `bundle install`, please update the README.md file.
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[Sugar-devel] An error occurred while installing json (1.8.6), and Bundler cannot continue. Make sure that `gem install json -v '1.8.6'` succeeds before bundling

[Samson Goddy]

i cloned the www-sugarlabs trying to run it on Fedora 27,

after doing

bundle install;

i keep getting this error

[samson@localhost www-sugarlabs]$ bundle install;
Fetching gem metadata from https://rubygems.org/.
Using i18n 0.8.1
Fetching json 1.8.6
Installing json 1.8.6 with native extensions
Gem::Ext::BuildError: ERROR: Failed to build gem native extension.

current directory:
/home/samson/.gem/ruby/2.4.0/gems/json-1.8.6/ext/json/ext/generator
/usr/bin/ruby -r ./siteconf20171119-626-198n0qq.rb extconf.rb
mkmf.rb can't find header files for ruby at /usr/share/include/ruby.h

extconf failed, exit code 1

Gem files will remain installed in
/home/samson/.gem/ruby/2.4.0/gems/json-1.8.6 for inspection.
Results logged to
/home/samson/.gem/ruby/2.4.0/extensions/x86_64-linux/2.4.0/json-1.8.6/gem_make.out

An error occurred while installing json (1.8.6), and Bundler cannot
continue.
Make sure that `gem install json -v '1.8.6'` succeeds before bundling.

In Gemfile:
  github-pages was resolved to 126, which depends on
jekyll-mentions was resolved to 1.2.0, which depends on
  html-pipeline was resolved to 2.5.0, which depends on
activesupport was resolved to 4.2.7, which depends on
  json

Anyone will similar issues?

Hrishi? Seetaramaraju? James? walter?
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