[Sugar-devel] GPA collaboration Issues - owner key theory
We will delete ~/.sugar/owner.key and ~/.sugar/owner.key.pub when we reburn the sticks on Monday. However, my problem with this theory is that l've been cloning pretty much the same Stick from FOSSVT on. Other places we have multiple people using the same stick without this problem. However, we have mostly be using wireless not wired. Woudl that make a difference? On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Dave Bauer dave.ba...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: Sorry, this was meant to go to the list no just Caroline. Begin forwarded message: From: Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com Date: 9 July 2009 15:54:34 BST To: Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] SoAS Testing with XS On 9 Jul 2009, at 15:19, Caroline Meeks wrote: It was worth a try but I see exactly the same behavior on the media lab jabber server. One thing I think I am noticing. It seems like one machine at a time is connected to the Jabber Server. What happens when a machine connects? Is there anyway that one machine connecting could cause another to disconnect? Are these machines in some way replicating something about them when the server things it should be unique? Could there be some sort of firewall or a caching service that decides its a duplicate and cuts one of them off? Ohh geeezz... How did you make the sticks? Did you boot one and tweak it, then clone that one? There are all sorts of files generated when you boot a system that make it unique that would need to be very carefully erased to make the stick image was 'fresh'. No one has a full list of all these files and their various interactions, though I think some have tried. The jabber id is generated from ~/.sugar/owner.key. Removing ~/.sugar/owner.key and ~/.sugar/owner.key.pub generates a new key after reboot and the jabber id is reset. Dave Regards, --Gary ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Dave Bauer d...@solutiongrove.com http://www.solutiongrove.com ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] GPA collaboration Issues - owner key theory
Are you sure? I think we were deleting ~/.sugar completely before. Trying to save the journal etc makes it more complex. On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Caroline Meekscarol...@meekshome.com wrote: We will delete ~/.sugar/owner.key and ~/.sugar/owner.key.pub when we reburn the sticks on Monday. In addition to ~/.gconf and ~/.gconfd Dave However, my problem with this theory is that l've been cloning pretty much the same Stick from FOSSVT on. Other places we have multiple people using the same stick without this problem. However, we have mostly be using wireless not wired. Woudl that make a difference? On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Dave Bauer dave.ba...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: Sorry, this was meant to go to the list no just Caroline. Begin forwarded message: From: Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com Date: 9 July 2009 15:54:34 BST To: Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] SoAS Testing with XS On 9 Jul 2009, at 15:19, Caroline Meeks wrote: It was worth a try but I see exactly the same behavior on the media lab jabber server. One thing I think I am noticing. It seems like one machine at a time is connected to the Jabber Server. What happens when a machine connects? Is there anyway that one machine connecting could cause another to disconnect? Are these machines in some way replicating something about them when the server things it should be unique? Could there be some sort of firewall or a caching service that decides its a duplicate and cuts one of them off? Ohh geeezz... How did you make the sticks? Did you boot one and tweak it, then clone that one? There are all sorts of files generated when you boot a system that make it unique that would need to be very carefully erased to make the stick image was 'fresh'. No one has a full list of all these files and their various interactions, though I think some have tried. The jabber id is generated from ~/.sugar/owner.key. Removing ~/.sugar/owner.key and ~/.sugar/owner.key.pub generates a new key after reboot and the jabber id is reset. Dave Regards, --Gary ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Dave Bauer d...@solutiongrove.com http://www.solutiongrove.com ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax -- Dave Bauer d...@solutiongrove.com http://www.solutiongrove.com ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] GPA collaboration Issues - owner key theory
Have we experimented with unmodified keys? -walter On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Caroline Meeks carol...@meekshome.comwrote: We will delete ~/.sugar/owner.key and ~/.sugar/owner.key.pub when we reburn the sticks on Monday. However, my problem with this theory is that l've been cloning pretty much the same Stick from FOSSVT on. Other places we have multiple people using the same stick without this problem. However, we have mostly be using wireless not wired. Woudl that make a difference? On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Dave Bauer dave.ba...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: Sorry, this was meant to go to the list no just Caroline. Begin forwarded message: From: Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com Date: 9 July 2009 15:54:34 BST To: Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] SoAS Testing with XS On 9 Jul 2009, at 15:19, Caroline Meeks wrote: It was worth a try but I see exactly the same behavior on the media lab jabber server. One thing I think I am noticing. It seems like one machine at a time is connected to the Jabber Server. What happens when a machine connects? Is there anyway that one machine connecting could cause another to disconnect? Are these machines in some way replicating something about them when the server things it should be unique? Could there be some sort of firewall or a caching service that decides its a duplicate and cuts one of them off? Ohh geeezz... How did you make the sticks? Did you boot one and tweak it, then clone that one? There are all sorts of files generated when you boot a system that make it unique that would need to be very carefully erased to make the stick image was 'fresh'. No one has a full list of all these files and their various interactions, though I think some have tried. The jabber id is generated from ~/.sugar/owner.key. Removing ~/.sugar/owner.key and ~/.sugar/owner.key.pub generates a new key after reboot and the jabber id is reset. Dave Regards, --Gary ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Dave Bauer d...@solutiongrove.com http://www.solutiongrove.com ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] GPA collaboration Issues - owner key theory
I tested this on my eeePC with soas. First I deleted gconf/gconfd and I got to pick my name and colors, but my jabber id was the same. So I removed owner.key(.pub) without gconf and i got a new key and my jabber id changed. I think it can't hurt to try it quick on some of the sticks before they are reburned. Dave On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Walter Benderwalter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: Have we experimented with unmodified keys? -walter On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Caroline Meeks carol...@meekshome.com wrote: We will delete ~/.sugar/owner.key and ~/.sugar/owner.key.pub when we reburn the sticks on Monday. However, my problem with this theory is that l've been cloning pretty much the same Stick from FOSSVT on. Other places we have multiple people using the same stick without this problem. However, we have mostly be using wireless not wired. Woudl that make a difference? On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Dave Bauer dave.ba...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: Sorry, this was meant to go to the list no just Caroline. Begin forwarded message: From: Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com Date: 9 July 2009 15:54:34 BST To: Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] SoAS Testing with XS On 9 Jul 2009, at 15:19, Caroline Meeks wrote: It was worth a try but I see exactly the same behavior on the media lab jabber server. One thing I think I am noticing. It seems like one machine at a time is connected to the Jabber Server. What happens when a machine connects? Is there anyway that one machine connecting could cause another to disconnect? Are these machines in some way replicating something about them when the server things it should be unique? Could there be some sort of firewall or a caching service that decides its a duplicate and cuts one of them off? Ohh geeezz... How did you make the sticks? Did you boot one and tweak it, then clone that one? There are all sorts of files generated when you boot a system that make it unique that would need to be very carefully erased to make the stick image was 'fresh'. No one has a full list of all these files and their various interactions, though I think some have tried. The jabber id is generated from ~/.sugar/owner.key. Removing ~/.sugar/owner.key and ~/.sugar/owner.key.pub generates a new key after reboot and the jabber id is reset. Dave Regards, --Gary ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Dave Bauer d...@solutiongrove.com http://www.solutiongrove.com ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org -- Dave Bauer d...@solutiongrove.com http://www.solutiongrove.com ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
