[Sugar-devel] content bundles and the OLPC Library Browse home page

2009-03-19 Thread S Page
In SoaS2 I downloaded a .XOL and was able to run it from the Journal and it unpacked into ~/Library. But Browse doesn't show it on a library page. User cwhii noticed this a while back and complained about it, Sugar bug #1 (!), http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1 : I expected OLPC Library with a

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Labs

2009-03-19 Thread Felipe López Toledo
I see, is it really necesary to use AS 3? I have seen the examples and it didn't seem to use any AS3 relevant feature. so, Gnash instead of Adobe player what about the compiler? MTASC http://www.mtasc.org/ or flashDevelop http://www.flashdevelop.org/ or ? in the other hand,

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-jhbuild usage

2009-03-19 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 02:59:18PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: I got sugar-jhbuild to compile on Ubuntu for the first time, but I don't understand how to use it properly. It has picked up all of the packages I installed for the Ubuntu packaged version of Sugar, If I understand you correctly,

Re: [Sugar-devel] instructions for flashing SoaS on a XO

2009-03-19 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 09:14, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/3/6 Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com: Glad to hear it works, I'm going to try it this weekend on my XO. I wonder if we could get the release team to execute these steps automatically for each release, and then make .img

Re: [Sugar-devel] Full Licence field

2009-03-19 Thread Simon Schampijer
Tom spot Callaway wrote: On 03/18/2009 03:45 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Simon Schampijer wrote: Yes. So the main question is now if Fedora would be willing to ship general licenses under /usr/share/common-licenses, I think. I really don't want to do this. Here's why: A) Many copyright

[Sugar-devel] Microsofts future UI inspired by Sugar?

2009-03-19 Thread Arto Stimms
Have you guys seen microsofts latest vision for the future of computing: http://motionographer.com/2009/03/16/microsoft-sustainability/ It may just be a coincidence, but the look of UI seem to have drawn quite a bit of inspiration from Sugar.

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to build from source?

2009-03-19 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 09:42:55AM -0500, Ivan Pulido wrote: Hey, Im trying to build Sugar enviroment from source for ArchLinux. So i cant use jhbuild as it is to do this. If you'd like to use sugar-jhbuild (i.e. try out the latest features breakages), you could take a look at one of the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Labs

2009-03-19 Thread Joshua Minor
On Mar 19, 2009, at 1:27 AM, Felipe López Toledo wrote: I see, is it really necesary to use AS 3? I have seen the examples and it didn't seem to use any AS3 relevant feature. so, Gnash instead of Adobe player what about the compiler? MTASC http://www.mtasc.org/ or flashDevelop

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-19 Thread Carol Farlow Lerche
Print queue management and quotas are key to this feature being usable in a classroom/school environment. Consumables are very expensive and kids love to hit print, often without thinking. So providing a way to place print jobs in a hold for review status is very important, IMHO, as well as

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-19 Thread Vamsi Krishna Davuluri
Carol, thanks for replying! Much appreciated! So in a classroom environment, can I assume the classroom server will be acting as the server? The thing is I never got proper input on what I branded obscure. Yes, I agree, if its a classroom environment I'll definitely add permission access and

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-19 Thread Vamsi Krishna Davuluri
class room/school server as the print server* On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Vamsi Krishna Davuluri vamsi.davul...@gmail.com wrote: Carol, thanks for replying! Much appreciated! So in a classroom environment, can I assume the classroom server will be acting as the server? The thing is I

Re: [Sugar-devel] content bundles and the OLPC Library Browse home page

2009-03-19 Thread Wade Brainerd
My hope going forward is that .xol bundles merge with .xo bundles and that they become one and the same, each appearing on the Home view for example. HTML would just be another development platform for writing Sugar activities, and what used to be non-interactive library content would become

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity Versioning (Was Re: [RELEASE] Terminal v24)

2009-03-19 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 6:05 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 18:34, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Eben Eliason e...@laptop.org wrote: On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-19 Thread Wade Brainerd
2009/3/19 Carol Farlow Lerche c...@msbit.com: A problem with the desktop-oriented printer support in Unix and in Windows is that it has the underlying assumption that the person at the desktop should be in unfettered control of the ability to print (with lip service paid to an overall page

Re: [Sugar-devel] RAM DoS (was: Re: Fwd: Activity startup idea)

2009-03-19 Thread Ivan Krstić
On Mar 19, 2009, at 6:03 PM, Wade Brainerd wrote: Sugar should always be usable *without* the extra security measures, they should not become requirements. I will strongly disagree with this assertion. Rainbow does not provide *extra* security measures for Sugar, even though you may think

[Sugar-devel] ActivityTeam coordinatorship

2009-03-19 Thread Wade Brainerd
Hey all, I was supposed to announce this after last week's ActivityTeam meeting but failed, ouch. The amount of time I have to contribute to Sugar Labs has been reducing steadily as my wife and I are expecting our first child. Which is great, as alsroot says I'm providing the next generation of

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-19 Thread Luke Faraone
2009/3/19 Vamsi Krishna Davuluri vamsi.davul...@gmail.com one question, the school server will be running on a normal distro, or sugar? Fedora CLI, see http://wiki.laptop.org/go/School_server 2009/3/19 Carol Farlow Lerche c...@msbit.com I disagree that print-to-pdf should be omitted. I

Re: [Sugar-devel] content bundles and the OLPC Library Browse home page

2009-03-19 Thread Gary C Martin
On 19 Mar 2009, at 16:58, Wade Brainerd wrote: My hope going forward is that .xol bundles merge with .xo bundles and that they become one and the same, each appearing on the Home view for example. HTML would just be another development platform for writing Sugar activities, and what used to

Re: [Sugar-devel] content bundles and the OLPC Library Browse home page

2009-03-19 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 19 Mar 2009, at 16:58, Wade Brainerd wrote: My hope going forward is that .xol bundles merge with .xo bundles and that they become one and the same, each appearing on the Home view for example.  HTML would just be

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-19 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Vamsi Krishna Davuluri wrote: But as tomeu had pointed out, what of the schools without servers? In that case printing would have a need to be done from the laptops themselves. Yes. There are lots of potential use cases that you might support, but

Re: [Sugar-devel] Regarding GSoC'09 projects (Educational toolkit and VideoChat activity)

2009-03-19 Thread Deepank Gupta
Hi, There has been a renewed interest in Educational Toolkit and I want to take up the work on Educational Toolkit as a GSoC Student for this summers. I have earlier worked on it and the system design is presented at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects/Educational_toolkit . The current code-base

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-19 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eben Eliason wrote: I have to agree that a print to pdf function could be useful, though, especially since it means that every activity can create output that can be transferred elsewhere (via email, USB drive, etc.) for printing. This provides a

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-19 Thread Vamsi Krishna Davuluri
I see your point, I agree. I will do the elimination as is required, and this time include a milestones/deadlines in my hopefully final draft proposal. My main objective will be to send the file from the laptop through the network to the server, have the necessary code for it both sides.(and

[Sugar-devel] Marketing to parents...

2009-03-19 Thread Sameer Verma
Hi, I had the opportunity to do a presentation to a group of parents at a local Montessori school. Some of the parents got back to me and want to run Sugar at home. After talking to them for a bit, I realized that the packaging is still difficult for most non-tech people. 1) Many don't know how

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-19 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Vamsi Krishna Davuluri wrote: I see your point, I agree. I will do the elimination as is required, and this time include a milestones/deadlines in my hopefully final draft proposal. My main objective will be to send the file from the laptop

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-19 Thread pgf
vamsi krishna davuluri wrote: I see your point, I agree. I will do the elimination as is required, and this time include a milestones/deadlines in my hopefully final draft proposal. My main objective will be to send the file from the laptop through the network to the server, have the

Re: [Sugar-devel] content bundles and the OLPC Library Browse home page

2009-03-19 Thread Gary C Martin
On 19 Mar 2009, at 18:22, Eben Eliason wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 19 Mar 2009, at 16:58, Wade Brainerd wrote: My hope going forward is that .xol bundles merge with .xo bundles and that they become one and the same, each

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-19 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eben Eliason wrote: I have to agree that a print to pdf function could be useful, though, especially since it means that every activity can create output that

Re: [Sugar-devel] announce: alternate power management

2009-03-19 Thread pgf
okay, if i don't quit playing with this thing and get the taxes done, my wife will kill me. so: i've packaged a new version of powerd. the big change is that it now allows for the two modes of operation i mentioned last week on the list: dim sleep, screen on

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-19 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Wade Brainerd wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eben Eliason wrote: I have to agree that a print to pdf function could be useful, though, especially since it means that every activity

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-19 Thread Gary C Martin
On 19 Mar 2009, at 20:34, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: Wade Brainerd wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eben Eliason wrote: I have to agree that a print to pdf function could be useful,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Marketing to parents...

2009-03-19 Thread Sean DALY
One-click-on-a-pancake-button-installer for each system is the Holy Grail. What works with the virtualization solution for nonengineers is the simple procedure: by following the wiki page step by step, I was able to get Sugar running on an Intel Mac Mini in 15 minutes. Whereas changing BIOS boot

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-19 Thread Caroline Meeks
Another use case is the student wants to print from home. The work may have been done at school then the student comes home, either using SoaS or with a laptop and now wants to print on the parent's computer. 2009/3/19 Vamsi Krishna Davuluri vamsi.davul...@gmail.com Hello! So here is a

[Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.84.1 Tarballs Due

2009-03-19 Thread Simon Schampijer
Dear Sucrose Maintainers, please provide source tarballs for the Sucrose 0.84.1 Release [1] by the end of the 20th of March and announce them as explained here: http://sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/Release#Module_release This will be our first update release. So every bug fix to stabilize

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-19 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: I was not aware of any existing Activity which saves printable images or documents to the Journal in a format that is not commonly used outside of Sugar.  Since you protested I looked through the source code

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-19 Thread Wade Brainerd
2009/3/19 Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc: 2009/3/19 Caroline Meeks carol...@meekshome.com Another use case is the student wants to print from home.  The work may have been done at school then the student comes home, either using SoaS or with a laptop and now wants to print on the parent's

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Marketing to parents...

2009-03-19 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Luke Faraone wrote: - VirtualBox: Again, popular. As with above, for the functionality we'll have to use the non-FLOSS edition Really? I don't think we need any of the non-free functionality. - --Ben -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version:

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Marketing to parents...

2009-03-19 Thread Ivan Krstić
On Mar 20, 2009, at 1:22 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: I haven't used Virtualbox, so I don't know if it has the ability to map drives or directories into the virtual machine. It does, through a kernel module installed by the guest additions. -- Ivan Krstić krs...@solarsail.hcs.harvard.edu

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity platform discussion

2009-03-19 Thread Walter Bender
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: On activities.sugarlabs.org we are able to say what platforms a particular activity supports. Note that this is in *addition* to describing the Sugar application version (0.82, 0.84, etc).  So the platform support has more

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to build from source?

2009-03-19 Thread shikhar
On Thursday 19 March 2009 15:42:55 Ivan Pulido wrote: Hey, Im trying to build Sugar enviroment from source for ArchLinux. So i cant use jhbuild as it is to do this. Im wondering if you have information, tips or suggestions on how to do this (good links maybe?). Since all I got is practically

[Sugar-devel] Changing the mail header for activities.sugarlabs.org

2009-03-19 Thread Kushal Das
Hi. The mails from activities.s.o which had information about my activity nomination shows subject line as : Mozilla Add-ons: Jukebox Nomination Can we change that Mozilla Add-ons to Sugar Labs Activities ? Kushal -- http://fedoraproject.org http://kushaldas.in

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-19 Thread Vamsi Krishna Davuluri
I was researching that, just extracting the print-pdf modules along with its dependencies and creating a new make (or package) should do the trick, but my knowledge limits me from seeing an implementation for it. On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/3/19