[Sugar-devel] HelloWorld documentation in sugarlabs wiki

2009-07-02 Thread Simon Schampijer
Hi, do we have those resources available on the sugarlabs wiki already? http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_tutorial http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Making_Sugar_Icons And I guess would be cool to get the hello-world example as well in git. Regards, Simon

Re: [Sugar-devel] HelloWorld documentation in sugarlabs wiki

2009-07-02 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:13, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: Hi, do we have those resources available on the sugarlabs wiki already? http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_tutorial http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Making_Sugar_Icons And I guess would be cool to get the hello-world example

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] Enabling https://translate.sugarlabs.org

2009-07-02 Thread Bernie Innocenti
[cc += sugar-de...@] On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 10:25 +0200, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 06:31:13AM +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote: And even then, rather than paying the pizzo (*) to the SSL mafia, we coul create our own Sugar Labs CA and install our certificate in the bundle

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal --- Sugar-Developers meeting REMINDER (2 July, 2009 - 14.00 (UTC)) --- irc.freenode.net, #sugar-meeting

2009-07-02 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 02.07.2009, at 06:08, Sascha Silbe wrote: [1] contains my thoughts on a VCS based datastore rewrite - a bit fleshed out now, but still not finished. The most important part for now is that I'd like to change the find() API call to take two parameters instead of one. I'm slightly

Re: [Sugar-devel] HelloWorld documentation in sugarlabs wiki

2009-07-02 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 07/02/2009 11:45 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:13, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: Hi, do we have those resources available on the sugarlabs wiki already? http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_tutorial http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Making_Sugar_Icons And I

[Sugar-devel] playing w/ i18n

2009-07-02 Thread Bryan Berry
subzero, i have been having a lot of discussions about i18n w/ the ever patient sayamindu and reading a lot on the subject. However, I haven't accomplished much. Here is my current playground http://karma.sugarlabs.org/yes_no/ am currently wrangling how to generate a meaningful po file from an

Re: [Sugar-devel] playing w/ i18n

2009-07-02 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
I did a little tweaking of html2po to get http://pastebin.be/19509 The label tags need to be fixed - but apart from that I think the rest of that is OK. May be we can try and build upon html2po and see how it works out. Thanks, Sayamindu 2009/7/2 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org: subzero, i have

[Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Feature proposal for 0.86

2009-07-02 Thread Simon Schampijer
Dear Community, I created a Feature Template [1]. Please move your proposals in the Roadmap[2] and follow the process [3] for inclusion in the release. The process is based on the Fedora Feature policy - just (hopefully) simplified a bit. Please have in mind that this release cycle is rather

Re: [Sugar-devel] playing w/ i18n

2009-07-02 Thread Bryan Berry
i think it is key that we can mark strings as translatable without making the html invalid. I like the idea of picking up certain tags by default like title, meta tags, and then picking up h1, h2, etc. unless they have the lang= attribute specified. Then it would be nice to pick up everything

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to create a project on SugarLabs gitorious?

2009-07-02 Thread Frederick Grose
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.comwrote: Bastien b...@laptop.org writes: See this wiki page: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/Git_FAQ That's it, thanks. I have uploaded my id_dsa.pub key on my account. I have initiated the local git repo.

[Sugar-devel] Datastore API changes (was: Re: Journal --- Sugar-Developers meeting REMINDER (2 July, 2009 - 14.00 (UTC)) --- irc.freenode.net, #sugar-meeting)

2009-07-02 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 11:52:01AM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: [1] contains my thoughts on a VCS based datastore rewrite - a bit fleshed out now, but still not finished. The most important part for now is that I'd like to change the find() API call to take two parameters instead of one.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Trimming down ling wiki names

2009-07-02 Thread Frederick Grose
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.dewrote: Hi Fred, it might makes sense to trim down our long wiki names. As we heavily use categories now - this might not be an issue. How about we do: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Release/Roadmap/0.84 -

Re: [Sugar-devel] Trimming down ling wiki names

2009-07-02 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 07/02/2009 03:06 PM, Frederick Grose wrote: On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.dewrote: Hi Fred, it might makes sense to trim down our long wiki names. As we heavily use categories now - this might not be an issue. How about we do:

Re: [Sugar-devel] Datastore API changes (was: Re: Journal --- Sugar-Developers meeting REMINDER (2 July, 2009 - 14.00 (UTC)) --- irc.freenode.net, #sugar-meeting)

2009-07-02 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 02.07.2009, at 14:52, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 11:52:01AM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: [1] http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/versionsupport-project/repos/mainline/blobs/master/datastore-redesign.html How do you intend transfer of file ownership to be handled?

[Sugar-devel] customizing activity launch (was Re: [IAEP] View Slides an alternative to PowerPoint?)

2009-07-02 Thread Bert Freudenberg
(moving to devel-list) Yes indeed, but we still have no obvious technical solution for this in Sugar. Adding a pre-made project to the Journal might work, but currently it would be resumed regularly and modified on stopping. It would need to be marked as a template so that when keeping it,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal --- Sugar-Developers meeting REMINDER (2 July, 2009 - 14.00 (UTC)) --- irc.freenode.net, #sugar-meeting

2009-07-02 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 07/01/2009 03:48 PM, Eben Eliason wrote: On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 09:43:38PM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote: Hi, in this week we want to talk about the Journal and datastore [1] improvements planned for 0.86. The

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to create a project on SugarLabs gitorious?

2009-07-02 Thread Bastien
Frederick Grose fgr...@gmail.com writes: Is it possible you got blacklisted?  See the first question, which was recently added to the top of this list, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/ Git_FAQ#Help.21_I_suddenly_can.27t_connect_to_Gitorious.21. I don't think so, I tried from

Re: [Sugar-devel] customizing activity launch (was Re: [IAEP] View Slides an alternative to PowerPoint?)

2009-07-02 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 15:26, Bert Freudenbergb...@freudenbergs.de wrote: (moving to devel-list) Yes indeed, but we still have no obvious technical solution for this in Sugar. Adding a pre-made project to the Journal might work, but currently it would be resumed regularly and modified on

Re: [Sugar-devel] customizing activity launch (was Re: [IAEP] View Slides an alternative to PowerPoint?)

2009-07-02 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 02.07.2009, at 15:36, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 15:26, Bert Freudenbergb...@freudenbergs.de wrote: (moving to devel-list) Yes indeed, but we still have no obvious technical solution for this in Sugar. Adding a pre-made project to the Journal might work, but

Re: [Sugar-devel] How to create a project on SugarLabs gitorious?

2009-07-02 Thread Luke Faraone
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 06:13, Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com wrote: Bastien b...@laptop.org writes: See this wiki page: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/Git_FAQ That's it, thanks. I have uploaded my id_dsa.pub key on my account. Please try again with RSA, use of DSA is

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal --- Sugar-Developers meeting REMINDER (2 July, 2009 - 14.00 (UTC)) --- irc.freenode.net, #sugar-meeting

2009-07-02 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: I guess you mean this one with object preview? http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/Designs/Journal#10 For audio objects we might even be able to add a simple playback functionality here. I like the preview idea -

Re: [Sugar-devel] CACert in Browse (was: Re: [Systems] Enabling https://translate.sugarlabs.org)

2009-07-02 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 12:44 +0200, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 11:51:03AM +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote: Sure, they're having (organisational) trouble again, but to be honest I nevertheless trust them way more than any commercial CA. I used to trust them more, but many

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal --- Sugar-Developers meeting REMINDER (2 July, 2009 - 14.00 (UTC)) --- irc.freenode.net, #sugar-meeting

2009-07-02 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 09:48:23AM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote: On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 09:43:38PM +0200, Simon Schampijer wrote: Hi, in this

Re: [Sugar-devel] Datastore API changes (was: Re: Journal --- Sugar-Developers meeting REMINDER (2 July, 2009 - 14.00 (UTC)) --- irc.freenode.net, #sugar-meeting)

2009-07-02 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 15:10, Bert Freudenbergb...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 02.07.2009, at 14:52, Sascha Silbe wrote: On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 11:52:01AM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote: [1]

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoAS Testing with XS

2009-07-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Greg, good to hear from you again. That bug report is just a backtrace. No info on whether the Sugar client was actually using the Jabber server (via Gabble) or not. Or what action was taken, what results seen, or versions of things. Pretty hard to tell what's going on. Are you in touch with

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoAS Testing with XS

2009-07-02 Thread Caroline Meeks
From the terminal I could see it switching back and forth between gamble and salut No internet access for me now but if you need more infi Please put requests for more info on tickets with good directions and Tuesday I ahould have time in the school to debug Thanks Sent from my iPhone

[Sugar-devel] On datastore object IDs

2009-07-02 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
We've been talking a lot about how datastore version 3 (?) should be structured. I'd like to propose (purely to initiate discussion) that it be structured as follows: The datastore is a collection of objects, which are arranged into version trees. Each object has a tree_id, which is an

Re: [Sugar-devel] On datastore object IDs

2009-07-02 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartzbmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: We've been talking a lot about how datastore version 3 (?) should be structured.  I'd like to propose (purely to initiate discussion) that it be structured as follows: The datastore is a collection of

Re: [Sugar-devel] customizing activity launch (was Re: [IAEP] View Slides an alternative to PowerPoint?)

2009-07-02 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 02.07.2009, at 18:40, Eben Eliason wrote: On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Bert Freudenbergb...@freudenbergs.de wrote: (moving to devel-list) Yes indeed, but we still have no obvious technical solution for this in Sugar. Adding a pre-made project to the Journal might work, but

Re: [Sugar-devel] On datastore object IDs

2009-07-02 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Walter Bender wrote: Presumably the objects themselves have unique ids, a la git, so that we can refer to the same object from multiple trees and by multiple users? (e.g., when I share something with you, it still has the same name.) Hmmm. So there are two issues here: 1. blob uuid. Each

Re: [Sugar-devel] Trimming down ling wiki names

2009-07-02 Thread David Farning
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Frederick Grosefgr...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Hi Fred, it might makes sense to trim down our long wiki names. As we heavily use categories now - this might not be an issue. How about we

Re: [Sugar-devel] On datastore object IDs

2009-07-02 Thread Walter Bender
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartzbmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: Walter Bender wrote: Presumably the objects themselves have unique ids, a la git, so that we can refer to the same object from multiple trees and by multiple users? (e.g., when I share something with you, it

Re: [Sugar-devel] On datastore object IDs

2009-07-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartzbmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: We've been talking a lot about how datastore version 3 (?) should be structured.  I'd like to propose (purely to initiate discussion) that it be structured as follows: Slightly OT: Sascha mentioned a plan in

Re: [Sugar-devel] customizing activity launch (was Re: [IAEP] View Slides an alternative to PowerPoint?)

2009-07-02 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Bert Freudenbergb...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 02.07.2009, at 18:40, Eben Eliason wrote: On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Bert Freudenbergb...@freudenbergs.de wrote: (moving to devel-list) Yes indeed, but we still have no obvious technical solution for this

Re: [Sugar-devel] On datastore object IDs

2009-07-02 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Walter Bender wrote: Use case: I send you a presentation that refers to objects in the datastore. I need to send you those objects too, but I would not like to have to use some additional layer of reference. Heh. We don't support inter-object dependencies. It's amazing how we keep having the

Re: [Sugar-devel] On datastore object IDs

2009-07-02 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartzbmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: Walter Bender wrote: Presumably the objects themselves have unique ids, a la git, so that we can refer to the same object from multiple trees and by multiple users? (e.g., when I share something with you, it

Re: [Sugar-devel] On datastore object IDs

2009-07-02 Thread Walter Bender
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartzbmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: Walter Bender wrote: Use case: I send you a presentation that refers to objects in the datastore. I need to send you those objects too, but I would not like to have to use some additional layer of reference.

Re: [Sugar-devel] On datastore object IDs

2009-07-02 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartzbmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: Walter Bender wrote: Use case: I send you a presentation that refers to objects in the datastore. I need to send you those objects too, but I would not like to have to use some additional layer of reference.

Re: [Sugar-devel] On datastore object IDs

2009-07-02 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Eben Eliasone...@laptop.org wrote: On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartzbmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: Walter Bender wrote: Use case: I send you a presentation that refers to objects in the datastore. I need to send you those objects too, but I

Re: [Sugar-devel] On datastore object IDs

2009-07-02 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Eben Eliason wrote: Hmm, I think that only objects have titles and user editable metadata (tags/description, etc.). If I open Write, and name that Document in the usual way, that title should be associated with that object. The action will happen to read like: Wrote [My Story] And

Re: [Sugar-devel] On datastore object IDs

2009-07-02 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartzbmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: Eben Eliason wrote: Hmm, I think that only objects have titles and user editable metadata (tags/description, etc.). If I open Write, and name that Document in the usual way, that title should be associated with

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoAS Testing with XS

2009-07-02 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 17:37, Greg Smithgreg.sm...@envista.com wrote: Hi All, Has anyone tried testing Sugar on a Stick, Strawberry release with collaboration? That is, are there any examples of SoAS computers seeing other SoAS computers in the Network Neighborhood and then sharing

Re: [Sugar-devel] On datastore object IDs

2009-07-02 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Eben Eliason wrote: On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartzbmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: Eben Eliason wrote: Hmm, I think that only objects have titles and user editable metadata (tags/description, etc.). If I open Write, and name that Document in the usual way, that title

[Sugar-devel] Configuring the keyboard

2009-07-02 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
Hello, I just uploaded a mock-up for the control panel section used for modifying the keyboard related preferences at http://dev.sugarlabs.org/attachment/ticket/407/keyboard_cpextension.png The relevant ticket is http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/407 As Eben has mentioned in one of the comments in

Re: [Sugar-devel] On datastore object IDs

2009-07-02 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartzbmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: Eben Eliason wrote: On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartzbmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: Eben Eliason wrote: Hmm, I think that only objects have titles and user editable metadata

Re: [Sugar-devel] On datastore object IDs

2009-07-02 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Eben Eliason wrote: I agree we send off the object without the history and action associations, and basically lives as the root of a new tree (new tree_id), and associated with an Received [object] from [friend] action. It's unclear to me that the person who sent this should also create a new

Re: [Sugar-devel] On datastore object IDs

2009-07-02 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartzbmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: Eben Eliason wrote: I agree we send off the object without the history and action associations, and basically lives as the root of a new tree (new tree_id), and associated with an Received [object] from

Re: [Sugar-devel] On datastore object IDs

2009-07-02 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Eben Eliason wrote: Anyway, the subtler point here, just for the sake of stating it outright, is that sending an object to someone and sharing that activity with them are (as they should be) quite different actions. In the former case, they just get the object, and can use it as the starting

Re: [Sugar-devel] On datastore object IDs

2009-07-02 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartzbmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: Eben Eliason wrote: Anyway, the subtler point here, just for the sake of stating it outright, is that sending an object to someone and sharing that activity with them are (as they should be) quite different

Re: [Sugar-devel] On datastore object IDs

2009-07-02 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Eben Eliason wrote: Having said all that, it now seems clear to me that what I'm actually concerned with is doing merges when v_x and v_y are the most recent versions belonging to the individual who resumes them. No matter how many new versions kids A and B make, a merge should be attempted

Re: [Sugar-devel] On datastore object IDs

2009-07-02 Thread Eben Eliason
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartzbmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: Eben Eliason wrote: Having said all that, it now seems clear to me that what I'm actually concerned with is doing merges when v_x and v_y are the most recent versions belonging to the individual who resumes

Re: [Sugar-devel] Show Must Go On - SoaS for the XO-1

2009-07-02 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
S Page wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:12 AM, Martin Denglermar...@martindengler.com wrote: I'd suggest you ask sdz to make the .iso that he used to create the .img file. On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Sebastian Dziallassebast...@when.com wrote: I'm very pleased to announce the

Re: [Sugar-devel] playing w/ i18n

2009-07-02 Thread Felipe López Toledo
i think it is key that we can mark strings as translatable without making the html invalid. agreed! I like the idea of picking up certain tags by default like title, meta tags, and then picking up h1, h2, etc. unless they have the lang= attribute specified. so, in this way we can have specific

Re: [Sugar-devel] Karma: quadrilaterals + Surf it works!

2009-07-02 Thread Felipe López Toledo
Hi Andrés, I have tested it (quadrilaterals) under Ubuntu 8.10 I see the same I see on a non html5 enabled browser. , you're right, it seems the webkit-gtk isn't updated :S I've checked line 49: ctx.fillText ( Erase, 25, 245 ); I supposse the current webkit doesn't support this instruction

Re: [Sugar-devel] ActivityTeam meeting on Friday June 26th - 17:00 UTC

2009-07-02 Thread S Page
Summary: For each activity migrated to activities.sugarlabs.org, the best is to REMOVE all activity info from w.lt.o except * {{Activity migrated to sl.o}} on its wiki page * its activity version fragment(s) read by OLPC's Software update control panel. What: ActivityTeam meeting Sorry I was on

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal feature request--more data in main display

2009-07-02 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 04:25:54AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: * additional types of filters for example Library has[2] several types to filter objects * user tags * object traits(additional columns from previous section) like author, genre, date for books * activity

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal feature request--more data in main display

2009-07-02 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 05:06:30AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 04:53:42AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 04:25:54AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote: * additional types of filters for example Library has[2] several types to filter objects * user

[Sugar-devel] updated karma documentation

2009-07-02 Thread Bryan Berry
subzero, i have update the karma docs pls take a look when u get a chance http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Karma -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org