Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] BBC News!

2009-06-24 Thread Edward Cherlin
My daily Google alert shows this story on Gizmodo, MIT Technology Review, ferarriboy.com, and gadget.us. A Google News search turns up several more. o tuxjournal.net (Spanish) o neteco.com (French) o techradar.com UK o slashdot o h-online.com We are getting good coverage in the geek outlets, but

[Sugar-devel] Strawberry VDI, please

2009-06-25 Thread Edward Cherlin
Several SoaS betas were made available as .vdi files suitable for use in VirtualBox. Can we get Strawberry in this form? Or can somebody tell me how to create one? -- Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name And Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Tr

Re: [Sugar-devel] Strawberry VDI, please

2009-06-25 Thread Edward Cherlin
how it goes. > > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/VirtualBox > > Thanks, > Caroline > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Edward Cherlin wrote: >> >> Several SoaS betas were made available as .vdi files suitable for use >> in VirtualBox. Can we get Strawberry in this

Re: [Sugar-devel] Strawberry VDI, please

2009-06-25 Thread Edward Cherlin
Works fine on Virtualbox OSE on Ubuntu J. Thx everybody. I see several important improvements already. More testing tonight. On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Edward Cherlin wrote: > > Thank you. Downloading now. I am on a FLOSS Manuals book sprint today, > but I can report back by thi

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: How do I get to upload a very nice VMware appliance to sunjammer?

2009-06-25 Thread Edward Cherlin
Somebody got a VDI working. We need to spread links around the Wiki on this. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/VirtualBox#Sugar_on_a_Stick http://www.sugarlabs.org/static/soas/soas-strawberry-vdi.zip On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > Great! I was trying to make Strawberry run

Re: [Sugar-devel] picked up by [some media]

2009-06-25 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Sean DALY wrote: > > I'm sorry Jonas, I had assumed the success of our launch (3700 SoaS > downloads yesterday) would be of interest to all Sugar Labs > contributors, in particular those who worked so hard on it. Does > anyone else feel it's too much information? I

Re: [Sugar-devel] Flossmanuals?

2009-06-26 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Bastien wrote: > I'm a bit skeptical about using flossmanuals for co-writing and > translating Sugar's documentation. > > What are the real benefits over a simple wiki? The documentation on the OLPC and SugarLabs Wikis is barely usable for experts, severely incompl

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal feature request--more data in main display

2009-06-29 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 20:13, Gary C Martin wrote: >> Hi Tomeu, >> >> On 28 Jun 2009, at 09:59, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> >>> 2009/6/21 Edward Cherlin : >>>> >>>> We have about 60 cha

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal feature request--more data in main display

2009-06-29 Thread Edward Cherlin
Oh, Michael, you're in trouble now. ^_^ You risk reinventing the data-centric Ontology in an Object-Oriented Programming form. This is one of the worst sinks for time and mental energy that I know of. It saps the will, because soon users become obsessed with making the map match the territory, whe

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal and filenames on USB disks - more leases.sig problems

2009-07-01 Thread Edward Cherlin
Better way: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities#Midnight_Commander On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > I am trying to get leases.sig from the XS to the USB stick. On 8.2.x, > Browse.xo saves the file as > >   File leases.sig from http://... > > ... two possible ways to m

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal --- Sugar-Developers meeting REMINDER (2 July, 2009 - 14.00 (UTC)) --- irc.freenode.net, #sugar-meeting

2009-07-03 Thread Edward Cherlin
I'm expecting you all to invent Linux groups any minute now. ^_^ On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Andrés Ambrois wrote: > On Friday 03 July 2009 02:29:56 pm Eben Eliason wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Gary C Martin wrote: >> > On 2 Jul 2009, at 14:47, Eben Eliason wrote: >> >> On Wed, J

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] The next Step: v2 Roadmap

2009-07-06 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: > Hi everybody, > > so here it is, the Sugar on a Stick v2 Roadmap: > > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Roadmap#Roadmap > > Feedback is appreciated, and as we've just entered brainstorming phase, > please go ahead and shoot you

Re: [Sugar-devel] Jaunty up and running

2009-07-06 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 11:25 AM, James Michael DuPont wrote: > Sascha, > It build and installed all according to the instructions. > I dont have this all here at the moment as I said. If you have any > questions, you can see my build snapshot, that contains everything. Where? I want to link to it

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal feature request--more data in main display

2009-07-06 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Eben Eliason wrote: > On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: >> On 3 Jul 2009, at 10:01, Martin Langhoff wrote: >>> Wishlist: "show files by size" filter or option? If the Uruguay >>> experience is any indicator, a fact of life is that users after all

Re: [Sugar-devel] Nobody understands "Keep"

2009-07-09 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 2:45 AM, Martin Dengler wrote: > On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 09:52:23AM +0100, Daniel Drake wrote: >> Nobody in the world seems to understand the Keep button. People think >> it's for regular saving and you should do it before you close or switch >> away from your activity. > > T

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar as desktop os

2009-07-10 Thread Edward Cherlin
2009/7/10 Philippe Clérié : > I am looking into implenting sugar for a Montessori school. Maria would be so pleased. +1 Where is your school? Is there a Sugar/XO user group nearby? > The > current plan is to start with 10 to 20 (depending on budget) > computers for a group of about 100 students

Re: [Sugar-devel] Problems running Sugar under Jaunty (9.04)

2009-07-10 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Frederick Grose wrote: > A new entry today > on http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Community/Distributions/Ubuntu: > (from) Neil Mayhew 16:28, 10 July 2009 (UTC) > > I was able to make the sugar packages work by adding a gconf setting: > > gconftool-2 -s /desktop/su

[Sugar-devel] Haiti dormant (was Re: Sugar as desktop os)

2009-07-10 Thread Edward Cherlin
2009/7/10 Philippe Clérié : > We're located in Haiti. Excellent. I had a hand in getting Kreyol localization started. > Sorry I left that off. And before anyone asks > :-) we're not part of the pilot that was scheduled to begin in Haiti > last year. I briefly worked with them. As far as I can tel

Re: [Sugar-devel] Haiti dormant (was Re: Sugar as desktop os)

2009-07-10 Thread Edward Cherlin
2009/7/10 Philippe Clérié : >> Did the laptops get distributed first? If not, where are they? > > No the laptops were not distributed as far as I know. As to where > they are, the information is not public so I don't know. > >> Excellent. I had a hand in getting Kreyol localization started. > > It'

Re: [Sugar-devel] Nobody understands "Keep"

2009-07-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 2:28 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 05:41, Eben Eliason wrote: >> On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 10:45 +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: >> > On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 09:52:23AM +0100, Daniel Drake wrote: >> > > Nobody in the world seems to understand the Kee

Re: [Sugar-devel] Initial implementation of toolbars design

2009-07-12 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Walter Bender wrote: > One comment re Write toolbars: there are numerous reports from the > field that we don't support bulleted lists, et al. I think the > pull-down menu on the style tab is not discoverable (in fact pulldown > menus in general in Sugar are diffic

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Turtle Art-54

2009-07-13 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Sugar Labs Activities wrote: > Url: > http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4027 > > Release notes: > http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4027#release-notes There is nothing in the Release Notes. "Version 54 — July 13, 2009 — 3,330 KB" What was changed? > Revi

[Sugar-devel] Empty HTML from Turtle Art

2009-07-15 Thread Edward Cherlin
I have tried saving to HTML in several versions of Turtle Art up through 51, but have gotten only HTML files with empty bodies. Is the code there? -- Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name And Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my destin

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Share sugar objects on a standalone server

2009-07-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Aleksey Lim wrote: > Hi all, > > One of lacks that sugar environment has is simple way to share sugar > objects for broad audience i.e. like scratch community has[1] > (thanks to davidmorris form #sugar). Yes, teachers and content developers need this, in addition

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Share sugar objects on a standalone server

2009-07-17 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: > Test case: > 1) Create a new TurtleArt activity > 2) Upload the new entry to the SL wiki using Browse > 3) Use Browse to download the entry back to Journal > 4) Resume it from Journal Thanks. That's something I missed. I'll add it to [[The u

[Sugar-devel] Language control panel broken: Chinese + Russian displayed

2009-07-17 Thread Edward Cherlin
There are serious bugs in language switching in My Settings (the Sugar Control Panel). One is that switching to a language can result in bits of some other language appearing, and switching back does not necessarily restore the original language entirely. I have attached a portion of a screen shot

Re: [Sugar-devel] Language control panel broken: Chinese + Russian displayed

2009-07-19 Thread Edward Cherlin
Your supposition turns out to be incorrect. (below) On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 5:35 AM, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: >> On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 01:54, Edward Cherlin wrote: >>> There are serious bugs in language

Re: [Sugar-devel] Language control panel broken: Chinese + Russian displayed

2009-07-20 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 2:58 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 01:54, Edward Cherlin wrote: >> There are serious bugs in language switching in My Settings (the Sugar >> Control Panel). > > Would be better to track each of these issues in individual tickets a

Re: [Sugar-devel] New activity Graph

2009-07-26 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 1:44 AM, Xenofon Papadopoulos wrote: > I have added a new activity I'm working on to the git repository, name is > Graph, it is plotting graphs of 1st and 2nd degree polynomials. Have you seen the plot() function in Calculate? It can plot a wide range of expressions. http:

[Sugar-devel] Cannot resume/install .xo bundles in Journal

2009-07-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
The Wiki entry http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Journal_Activity#Installing_activities says .xo bundles that are downloaded from the Browse activity are stored in the Journal. By resuming the activity from the Journal entry will both launch it and install it on the taskbar. However, Resume does not ap

Re: [Sugar-devel] Cannot resume/install .xo bundles in Journal

2009-07-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:24 AM, Aleksey Lim wrote: > On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:19:52AM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: >> The Wiki entry >> >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Journal_Activity#Installing_activities >> >> says >> >> .xo bundles that are down

Re: [Sugar-devel] Duplication of Effort: Don't do it.

2009-07-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I have lately seen a lot of duplication of effort in Sugar.  I think this > is bad.  The success of Sugar demands discipline and careful planning from > its developers. > > In particu

Re: [Sugar-devel] TuxPaint and saving to journal (Was: Duplication of effort)

2009-07-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
If those who know where things are and how things work are willing, we can create proper Sugar API documentation. I'll help. On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Ton van Overbeek wrote: > On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Luke Faraone wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 19:36, Ton van Overbeek >> wrote:

Re: [Sugar-devel] TuxPaint and saving to journal (Was: Duplication of effort)

2009-07-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
Actually, I see Sugar API documentation at http://api.sugarlabs.org/ including Module dbus_helpers. Does this help? On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Edward Cherlin wrote: > If those who know where things are and how things work are willing, we > can create proper Sugar API documentation

Re: [Sugar-devel] GPA Class Notes July 22 - GS

2009-07-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Greg Smith wrote: > Hi All, > > I posted the full notes here: > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Gardner_Pilot_Academy#Class_notes Thanks. > Three high level points: > - Kids have no trouble finding new activities (e.g. Write) and they > want to have more to use. > -

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity as regular objects proposal

2009-07-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: > 2009/7/28 Aleksey Lim : >> The problems that 0.84 has in case of activity versions are: >> >> * it can't upgrade activities if they were pre-installed from >>  native packages; it makes process of upgrading activities >>  from .xo impossible >

Re: [Sugar-devel] GPA Class Notes July 22 - GS

2009-07-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Greg Smith wrote: > Hi Gary, > > Thanks for the comments and follow up! > Addressing two points below from two of your responses: > 1 - Name in Journal of file saved from browse > I may have mixed two issues. This one is not tagging. The work flow > for this is as

Re: [Sugar-devel] What is your favorite application for use in CS classes?

2009-08-03 Thread Edward Cherlin
1) I am currently working on CS, math, and science lessons for primary school classes based on Turtle Art in Sugar education software, originally for the OLPC XO but now available for multiple versions of Linux. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Turtle_Art http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:G

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Reviving the Deployment Team

2009-08-04 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Caroline Meeks wrote: > Let me know how I can help! Likewise. > Thanks, > CAroline > > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:47 PM, David Farning > wrote: >> >> It looks like we have enough sustainable contributors to revive the >> Deployment team! >> >> The existing deployme

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Reviving the Deployment Team

2009-08-04 Thread Edward Cherlin
> from a bang-for-buck pov.  But, from a community pov minor issues are > easy to report, easy to turn into bug reports, and often easy to fix. > By starting small we can learn and gain confidence that the process we > are creating work.  Once we have confidence in the process we turn &g

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Turtleart] Quesstions and Issues w Journal

2009-08-06 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Andrés Arrieta Perréard wrote: > Hi, > We've been testing turtle art and there is a menu called keyboard (at least > in spanish). But there are som things we do not understand what they mean, > like the block with a star. In more recent versions of Turtle Art, that

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Who's interested in testing a new installer for SoaS?

2009-08-08 Thread Edward Cherlin
I can test in several distros in VirtualBox. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: > Hi everybody, > > I'm looking for some volunteers to test the hard disk installation with > the latest SoaS snapshot and newly designed installer. Since this > upstream project is really in the

Re: [Sugar-devel] erasing the journal and config

2009-08-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:17 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: > 2009/8/27 Sameer Verma : >> We have a lending library at SFSU, ready to go, but we need to have a >> way to erase the config and journal every time the XO comes back from >> a borrower. > In my opinion, this is silly. Teach them how to run a s

Re: [Sugar-devel] The ARM is near

2009-08-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
We're going to do all of this for the XO-2 (ARM, dual haptic multitouch screens), and as with trees, the sooner we plant the better. Can we get a virtual ARM running on a Linux X86 system? It seems likely. QEMU has some form of ARM emulation. Also, https://wiki.cse.buffalo.edu/services/content/vi

[Sugar-devel] OCR?

2009-08-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
I was at a presentation last week of Abbyy OCR software, which works on pictures taken by mobile phone cameras in more than 100 languages. The company wants to give away software (though not source code) in was that will get the company good publicity. So we are talking about using their software w

Re: [Sugar-devel] The ARM is near

2009-08-30 Thread Edward Cherlin
2009/8/29 Tomeu Vizoso : > Ok, so the idea is to focus our resources on the distribution level? > I'm not very fond of that because: > - polishing a distribution is _lots_ of work. Canonical, Novell, > Redhat, etc. are putting lots of resources into there. I think that a > small set of people can

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] FSF attitude to xo and sugar

2009-08-30 Thread Edward Cherlin
I am in personal contact with Stallman (rms) on this. Who else here knows him? We have met several times at computing events, and discussed other questions in e-mail. I was a factor in his choice of the XO as his main computer, which unfortunately lasted only a short time, because he was unaware th

Re: [Sugar-devel] updates and testing SocialCalc on the Sugar Live CD

2009-09-04 Thread Edward Cherlin
I downloaded SocialCalc from the Activities subdomain to the journal, where it installed and ran with no difficulty. I will give it some serious testing soon. On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Manusheel Gupta wrote: > Dear community members, > > We are preparing for the next release of SocialCalc o

Re: [Sugar-devel] updates and testing SocialCalc on the Sugar Live CD

2009-09-05 Thread Edward Cherlin
I ran through all of the basic functions of SocialCalc, including every icon on every tab. I have tested some but not all of the 109 functions provided, with good results so far. Although there are functions I could wish for, the only real deficiency I have found is in the documentation. I have cr

Re: [Sugar-devel] updates and testing SocialCalc on the Sugar Live CD

2009-09-05 Thread Edward Cherlin
fly without problems, but I cannot type other currency symbols such as € or £ within Sugar. I will have to do much more language and locale testing. > Thanks again for taking time to work with SocialCalc so we can help provide > this functionality around the world through this platform. &

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2009-09-03

2009-09-05 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Walter Bender wrote: > === Sugar Digest === > > > > 1. The car allowance rebate system (CARS), more commonly known as the > “Cash for Clunkers” program, was used to bail out the US auto > industry. People who had purchased gas guzzlers were rewarded with > $4500 towa

[Sugar-devel] Negative press (was Re: Sugar Digest 2009-09-11)

2009-09-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
Oh, don't fret. How about the good, even overenthusiastic, press (off by one on the version)? ;-> XO 2.5 out Fudzilla This newest laptop from OLPC features the VIA C7-M a 1GHz variable speed processor, which can manage full screen video playback, offering faster etoys and and scratch animation,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Design] ColorButton

2009-09-15 Thread Edward Cherlin
Added to [[The undiscoverable]]. On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 3:54 AM, Simon Schampijer wrote: > Hi, > > currently the ColorButton is not fully clear in it's behavior (see > http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/388). Click outside the palette to close > it etc. The problem in the bug is that clicking outs

Re: [Sugar-devel] #606 UNSP: SoaS includes lots of fonts that don't work in Write (Soas2-200903211320)

2009-09-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
The fonts in your list that render as "tiny letters that all overprint" are mainly fixed-size bitmap console fonts that should not be used in a GUI. I don't understand why Lucida Typewriter would have a problem, nor do I understand why only one Lucida font is inclueded in SOAS. The Lucida family o

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 11, Issue 89 (SoaS performance/hard drive swapping)

2009-09-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Bill Bogstad wrote: > As for swap, if you are repurposing discarded machines on any kind of > scale you are going to end up with non-functional machines which are a > great source of parts.  Strip the RAM from the dead machines and > upgrade the rest.  This is som

[Sugar-devel] Development Bank seminar (was Re: [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2009-09-16)

2009-09-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Gerald Ardito wrote: > Walter, > > Your report from the meeting from Washington is inspiring. Particularly, the > "what are we waiting for." +1 > As you know, I am in the process of documenting similar outcomes as part of > a doctoral study for a deployment here

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Your message to Sugar-devel awaits moderator approval

2009-09-23 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Luke Faraone wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:19, Peter Robinson wrote: >>> >>> I think most mailing lists (at least the ones I'm subscribed to) set >>> the reply to header as that of the mailing list s

Re: [Sugar-devel] High School Programmer Volunteer?

2009-10-01 Thread Edward Cherlin
I can give it a go. I'm planning a sequence of lessons on Python using the programmable tiles in Turtle Art, ranging from simple function calls to whole programs calling various libraries. Does this student have a project picked out, or is he willing to take on whatever we have for him? Which vers

Re: [Sugar-devel] XO emulator for Linux

2009-10-10 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 5:57 AM, Walther Neuper wrote: > Hi Tomeu, > > thank you for your mail ! > > You ask: >> Can you give us some more details about what do you plan to develop >> and how do you expect it to be deployed? > Christoph Derndorfer established a project in Austria, where 25 kids of

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good

2009-10-14 Thread Edward Cherlin
I'm extracting some of the for [[The Undiscoverable]]. On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Eben Eliason wrote: > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Simon Schampijer > wrote: >> On 10/13/2009 04:36 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> Michael just passed by the Acetarium and, since the din

Re: [Sugar-devel] [OLPC-SF] Sugar packages for Karmic

2009-10-23 Thread Edward Cherlin
If you keep good notes, I will turn them into better documentation than we have now. I have been distressed by the lack of working Ubuntu Sugar packages for the last six months. On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 17:58, Grant Bowman wrote: > This is great news!  David Farning at Sugar Labs is beginning work

Re: [Sugar-devel] Tutorius Demo and Meeting

2009-10-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 09:11, Erick Lavoie wrote: > As discussed before, Tutorius is a project done by 9 students from > Université de Sherbrooke (Québec, Canada) aiming to integrate interactive > tutorials inside Sugar to guide Sugar users in learning the platform and its > activities.  Our goal

Re: [Sugar-devel] Testing changes (was Re: RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good)

2009-11-18 Thread Edward Cherlin
Nobody has taken up my offer, so it is now dormant until I hear otherwise. I did not intend my suggestions to replace whatever is needed in the meantime. As I said, don't take anything personally. On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:14, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > 2009/11/5 Edward Cherlin : >> We

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sharing in Terminal

2009-11-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
Excellent ideas. I would like to see the same option for programming. There are doubtless applications for joint programming, but RO would be great for XP pair programming and for code reviews. Now if we can integrate all of this with chat...Have a look at the Write interface in Floss Manuals. htt

Re: [Sugar-devel] OT: Thesis: OLPC Evaluation with Usability Engineering

2009-11-24 Thread Edward Cherlin
This is wonderful. I have been tackling the problem of Usability from a different direction, Discoverability, as you can see on my Wiki page http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/The_Undiscoverable. I am in the middle of greatly extending that study. I am also, unfortunately, in the middle of moving from

Re: [Sugar-devel] discovering open clip art library

2009-12-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 20:12, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Bryan Berry wrote: >> >> > The describtion of their dms is also so short that I'm not sure what >> > to make of it? >> there are a lot of notes farther down the page > > But the top of the page clearly s

[Sugar-devel] Open Voting Activity?

2008-12-15 Thread Edward Cherlin
Source code for the Open Voting Consortium demo conducted at Linux World Expo in August is available in a git repository. See http://www.fossfactory.org/project/p61 I would like to make this available for use in school elections within Sugar. Is anybody interested in taking this on? The demo is i

Re: [Sugar-devel] Open Voting Activity?

2008-12-15 Thread Edward Cherlin
anging. We > can add all of that later. You can discuss that with our security people. > Thanks for bringing it up, I hope I can move it forward again. You're welcome. > Sebastian > > 2008/12/15 Edward Cherlin : >> Source code for the Open Voting Consortium demo conduct

[Sugar-devel] Proposals (was Re: [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2008-12-15)

2008-12-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Walter Bender wrote: > === Sugar Digest === > 5. There is also Proposals Section (See > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/DeploymentTeam/GettingInvolved#Proposals) > in the wiki for aggregating information about potential grant > opportunities for Sugar Labs and region

Re: [Sugar-devel] [sugar] Human Interface Guidelines (update and hosting)

2008-12-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:13 PM, Eben Eliason wrote: > Hello everyone - > > The Human Interface Guidelines [1] have been stagnant for some time, > and I'm starting an initiative to remedy the situation. This effort, > as I see it, has two components: 1) update the contents of the HIG and > 2) tea

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposals (was Re: [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2008-12-15)

2008-12-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Caroline Meeks wrote: > > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Edward Cherlin wrote: >> >> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Walter Bender >> wrote: >> > === Sugar Digest === >> >> > 5. There is also Propo

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Hilaire Fernandes learning system

2008-12-23 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Bill Kerr wrote: > from walter's sugar digest: > 6. Hilaire Fernandes, who brought us DrGeo, has href="http://www.istoa.net";>a new project underway: Thank you. This is excellent. > :I am working on a learning system written in Smalltalk. The contents > is only

[Sugar-devel] Turtle Art fork idea (was Re: [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2008-12-23)

2008-12-23 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 6:00 AM, Walter Bender wrote: > === Sugar Digest === > > 1. gitorious: It was time to try migrating TurtleArt, the project I am > maintaining, over to git.sugarlabs.org. The new git system we are > using, gitorious, has a user interface that is more "web-friendly" > than an

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity page wiki location?

2008-12-24 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Gary C Martin wrote: > On 23 Dec 2008, at 12:37, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > >> On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 13:32, Morgan Collett > > wrote: >>> On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 14:25, Tomeu Vizoso >>> wrote: On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 13:05, Gary C Martin wrote: > I was

Re: [Sugar-devel] Turtle Art fork idea (was Re: [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2008-12-23)

2008-12-24 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 5:38 AM, Gary C Martin wrote: > On 24 Dec 2008, at 00:30, Edward Cherlin wrote: > >> I proposed separately making a TA tile set with icons rather than >> names, but I don't know if anybody has picked up the idea. I proposed >> a design, which j

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2008-12-29

2009-01-02 Thread Edward Cherlin
In addition to the essential ideas discussed below, we need to have a discussion of skill, and the appropriate kinds of practice for achieving it. We have ample proof that reading cannot be taught simply as a classroom subject. Those who catch the reading bug, and read all sorts of things that no t

Re: [Sugar-devel] Teaching typing and basic math on the XO (was: Re: [IAEP] How to Make Activity Designers Happy , Parts I and II)

2009-01-02 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Wade Brainerd wrote: > If you have used TuxType, you will know that it's a simplistic typing > *practice game* and in no way teaches the user how to type. > > That said, there are typing programs out there that could work. I just > wanted to make a nice one for Sug

Re: [Sugar-devel] possible additional talks for XOCamp2?

2009-01-08 Thread Edward Cherlin
My proposal for a talk on the Earth Treasury digital textbook project does not appear in the schedule, although it is described below on the same page,http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XOCamp_2/ . Can I get some time for it? We have a dynamite list of partners, as outlined at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/C

Re: [Sugar-devel] Leaving

2009-01-09 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:50 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: > Like many others, Friday will be my last day employed by OLPC. I've > enjoyed working on the project a lot, and hope to find some way to > continue the work that has been begun. I'm very sorry to hear that. Will you be able to attend XOC

Re: [Sugar-devel] Education on the XO

2009-01-10 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 4:31 AM, Tony Anderson wrote: > Bryan has started a very interesting discussion about what is needed for > the XO to support education. I would like to add my two cents worth. > > We are learning (gaining new experience) every day that we are alive. > The traditional differe

Re: [Sugar-devel] jhbuild obsoleted itself:)

2009-01-18 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 1:15 PM, David Farning wrote: > I have just gone through the wiki and deleted the > developmentteam/jhbuild/* pages:) > > These pages were created in around June of 2008 when jhbuild was the > only method for running Sugar on non-XO platforms. Now that we have > packages f

[Sugar-devel] Open Animal Crossing project

2009-02-01 Thread Edward Cherlin
Would anybody here be interested in joining the nascent Open Animal Crossing project? http://code.google.com/p/openanimalcrossing/ AC in its four is one of the few cooperative family games. It has an oversimplified economy and environment that is appropriate for teaching many basic concepts, as

Re: [Sugar-devel] Getting sugar-jhbuild run working

2009-02-09 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Alex Holkner wrote: > Thanks for the previous help in getting sugar-jhbuild updating from > the correct git repository. > > I've now got a successful install (this involved upgrading to Ubuntu > 8.10 and installing some additional packages not listed on the wiki --

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Sur] Turtle Art Portfolio v-7

2009-02-09 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 4:53 AM, Walter Bender wrote: > I pushed a new version of the Portfolio tool (See > http://sugarlabs.org/wiki/images/e/e6/TurtleArtPortfolio-7.xo). > > It has a number of improvements over the previous versions, including: > > * fixing a bug that prevented the Spanish versi

[Sugar-devel] Fwd: [PyCon-Organizers] Open government sprint?

2009-02-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
Is anybody going to PyCon? We have booth space and could use coders and mentors for the sprints. -- Forwarded message -- From: Edward Cherlin Date: Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [PyCon-Organizers] Open government sprint? To: Jacob Kaplan-Moss Cc: Massimo Di Pierro

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] addons.sugarlabs.org

2009-02-13 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > Hi, > > http://addons.sugarlabs.org is up and running. Please create accounts > in there if you want to help in anything activity-related. > > Specifically, we need: > > - activity maintainers to upload their bundles, Thanks. I'll submit my

Re: [Sugar-devel] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

2009-02-13 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:14 PM, David Van Assche wrote: > ok? I guess this will be contreversial but it must be said and acted > upon (much more importantly) > > Im gonna try and make this easy: > > SoaS - the latest fedora core based > I tried to impress my 9 year old gescwister... (related one)

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal empty in Soas-200902231225 and what is Soas-200902241809.iso in snapshots/2/ ?

2009-02-25 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Ton van Overbeek wrote: > When trying out Soas-200902231225 the journal stays empty. > Anybody else seen this ? This is true in several versions of Sugar, including Ubuntu packages. Jonas Smedegård has made a patch for it, available from http://debian.jones.dk/ s

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] New Sugar on a Stick image available

2009-02-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: > Weeeh! > > A new Soas-1 is out. It contains all the bug fixes that made it into > head in the last days. And you can use Wade Brainerd's fabulous Typing > Turtle to get you going in 10 finger typing - /me won already a Gold Medal. Does i

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Running sugar at almost-native speeds in Windows

2009-03-10 Thread Edward Cherlin
I used to use coLinux regularly when my contracts required me to work on Windows, and I contributed various info to their Wiki. If Sugar on coLinux turns out to be worthwhile, I will be happy to help with documentation. On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Chris Ball wrote: > Hi, > >   > Hi all, I w

Re: [Sugar-devel] instructions for flashing SoaS on a XO

2009-03-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
2009/3/6 Wade Brainerd : > Glad to hear it works, I'm going to try it this weekend on my XO. > I wonder if we could get the release team to execute these steps > automatically for each release, and then make .img files available on > downloads.sugarlabs.org along with the .iso files? +1 I have als

Re: [Sugar-devel] Quick run through of Activities on Soas2-200903061846

2009-03-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: > Hi folks, > > I wanted to get an idea for what Activities are actually currently > working in a reasonable condition, here's a quick run through using > the latest SoaS F11 build – Tomorrow I'll do the same with a recent > F11 build from cjb.

[Sugar-devel] View source in TA (was Re: [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2009-02-03)

2009-03-14 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Walter Bender wrote: > === Sugar Digest === > > Baselines, Part 1: A few months ago, Tomeu Vizoso set a baseline for > the Sugar "view source" functionality that had largely gone unrealized > in most Activities. In the upcoming (March) release of Sugar, the > defau

Re: [Sugar-devel] Access to multiple repos in SugarLabs gitorious

2009-03-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Bastien wrote: > Luke Faraone writes: > >> On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Bastien >> wrote: >> >>     I'm familiar with the Pootle OLPC server but my understanding was that >>     the gitorious page had more activities. >> >> Correct, however we have a reason

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] SugarPlatform-0.84.0 o n Caixa Mágica the Magellan project

2009-03-18 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Aleksey Lim wrote: > The Sugar Platform is a set of versioned components on which activity > authors can rely when targeting their activities to run on a particular > Sugar version [1]. > > On Mag it lives in task-sugar meta-package [2] and includes: > - sugar-fru

[Sugar-devel] sugar-jhbuild usage

2009-03-18 Thread Edward Cherlin
I got sugar-jhbuild to compile on Ubuntu for the first time, but I don't understand how to use it properly. It has picked up all of the packages I installed for the Ubuntu packaged version of Sugar, and I don't know how to point it at any other Activity bundles. The Wiki page doesn't explain these

[Sugar-devel] Another Linux in education

2009-03-18 Thread Edward Cherlin
Here is another needed port of Sugar. http://itschool.gov.in/otherprograms.php#6 The Kerala IT Education Department believes that sharing is an important virtue. However, sharing proprietary software would be a violation of the End User. Building collaboration and sharing practices are essential

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Summer of Code Proposal: Furthering Speech Recognition in Sugar.

2009-03-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 2:46 PM, satya komaragiri wrote: > Hello, > > I am a final year student from India. I wish to apply to GSoC this > year by building upon my current work. I had discussed the feasibility > and advantages of having Speech Recognition for an OLPC +1 Which languages to start

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-03-17

2009-03-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
2009/3/17 Sascha Silbe : > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:48:20AM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: > >> Meanwhile, Sasche Silbe is working on keeping Sugar on Ubuntu up to date. > Just for clarification: I'm working on getting sugar-jhbuild to work on > Ubuntu Jaunty and Debian Squeeze, not native packages

[Sugar-devel] Phonology (was Re: Fwd: Summer of Code Proposal: Furthering Speech Recognition in Sugar.)

2009-03-23 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Sean DALY wrote: > Greetings Satya, > I seem to remember reading that most of the world's > languages draw from a pool of only 50-60 phonemes. This turns out not to be the case. Individual languages commonly have that many. English by itself has between 40 and 50

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