Re: [Sugar-devel] Open Voting Activity?

2008-12-15 Thread Edward Cherlin
welcome. Sebastian 2008/12/15 Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com: Source code for the Open Voting Consortium demo conducted at Linux World Expo in August is available in a git repository. See http://www.fossfactory.org/project/p61 I would like to make this available for use in school

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Hilaire Fernandes learning system

2008-12-23 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Bill Kerr billk...@gmail.com wrote: from walter's sugar digest: 6. Hilaire Fernandes, who brought us DrGeo, has a href=http://www.istoa.net;a new project/a underway: Thank you. This is excellent. :I am working on a learning system written in Smalltalk. The

Re: [Sugar-devel] Turtle Art fork idea (was Re: [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2008-12-23)

2008-12-24 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 5:38 AM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 24 Dec 2008, at 00:30, Edward Cherlin wrote: I proposed separately making a TA tile set with icons rather than names, but I don't know if anybody has picked up the idea. I proposed a design, which just needs

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2008-12-29

2009-01-02 Thread Edward Cherlin
In addition to the essential ideas discussed below, we need to have a discussion of skill, and the appropriate kinds of practice for achieving it. We have ample proof that reading cannot be taught simply as a classroom subject. Those who catch the reading bug, and read all sorts of things that no

Re: [Sugar-devel] Teaching typing and basic math on the XO (was: Re: [IAEP] How to Make Activity Designers Happy , Parts I and II)

2009-01-02 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: If you have used TuxType, you will know that it's a simplistic typing *practice game* and in no way teaches the user how to type. That said, there are typing programs out there that could work. I just wanted to make a nice

Re: [Sugar-devel] Education on the XO

2009-01-10 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 4:31 AM, Tony Anderson tony_ander...@usa.net wrote: Bryan has started a very interesting discussion about what is needed for the XO to support education. I would like to add my two cents worth. We are learning (gaining new experience) every day that we are alive. The

[Sugar-devel] Open Animal Crossing project

2009-02-01 Thread Edward Cherlin
Would anybody here be interested in joining the nascent Open Animal Crossing project? http://code.google.com/p/openanimalcrossing/ AC in its four is one of the few cooperative family games. It has an oversimplified economy and environment that is appropriate for teaching many basic concepts, as

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Sur] Turtle Art Portfolio v-7

2009-02-09 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 4:53 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: I pushed a new version of the Portfolio tool (See http://sugarlabs.org/wiki/images/e/e6/TurtleArtPortfolio-7.xo). It has a number of improvements over the previous versions, including: * fixing a bug that prevented

[Sugar-devel] Fwd: [PyCon-Organizers] Open government sprint?

2009-02-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
Is anybody going to PyCon? We have booth space and could use coders and mentors for the sprints. -- Forwarded message -- From: Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com Date: Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [PyCon-Organizers] Open government sprint? To: Jacob Kaplan-Moss ja

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] addons.sugarlabs.org

2009-02-13 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi, http://addons.sugarlabs.org is up and running. Please create accounts in there if you want to help in anything activity-related. Specifically, we need: - activity maintainers to upload their bundles, Thanks.

Re: [Sugar-devel] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

2009-02-13 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:14 PM, David Van Assche dvanass...@gmail.com wrote: ok? I guess this will be contreversial but it must be said and acted upon (much more importantly) Im gonna try and make this easy: SoaS - the latest fedora core based I tried to impress my 9 year old gescwister...

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal empty in Soas-200902231225 and what is Soas-200902241809.iso in snapshots/2/ ?

2009-02-25 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Ton van Overbeek tvoverb...@gmail.com wrote: When trying out Soas-200902231225 the journal stays empty. Anybody else seen this ? This is true in several versions of Sugar, including Ubuntu packages. Jonas Smedegård has made a patch for it, available from

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] New Sugar on a Stick image available

2009-02-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: Weeeh! A new Soas-1 is out. It contains all the bug fixes that made it into head in the last days. And you can use Wade Brainerd's fabulous Typing Turtle to get you going in 10 finger typing - /me won already a Gold

Re: [Sugar-devel] Quick run through of Activities on Soas2-200903061846

2009-03-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: Hi folks, I wanted to get an idea for what Activities are actually currently working in a reasonable condition, here's a quick run through using the latest SoaS F11 build – Tomorrow I'll do the same with a recent F11

Re: [Sugar-devel] Access to multiple repos in SugarLabs gitorious

2009-03-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com wrote: Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc writes: On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com wrote:     I'm familiar with the Pootle OLPC server but my understanding was that     the gitorious page

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] SugarPlatform-0.84.0 o n Caixa Mágica the Magellan project

2009-03-18 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: The Sugar Platform is a set of versioned components on which activity authors can rely when targeting their activities to run on a particular Sugar version [1]. On Mag it lives in task-sugar meta-package [2] and

[Sugar-devel] Another Linux in education

2009-03-18 Thread Edward Cherlin
Here is another needed port of Sugar. http://itschool.gov.in/otherprograms.php#6 The Kerala IT Education Department believes that sharing is an important virtue. However, sharing proprietary software would be a violation of the End User. Building collaboration and sharing practices are essential

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Summer of Code Proposal: Furthering Speech Recognition in Sugar.

2009-03-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 2:46 PM, satya komaragiri satya.komarag...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am a final year student from India. I wish to apply to GSoC this year by building upon my current work. I had discussed the feasibility and advantages of having Speech Recognition for an OLPC +1

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-03-17

2009-03-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
2009/3/17 Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org: On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:48:20AM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: Meanwhile, Sasche Silbe is working on keeping Sugar on Ubuntu up to date. Just for clarification: I'm working on getting sugar-jhbuild to work on Ubuntu Jaunty and Debian

[Sugar-devel] Phonology (was Re: Fwd: Summer of Code Proposal: Furthering Speech Recognition in Sugar.)

2009-03-23 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings Satya, I seem to remember reading that most of the world's languages draw from a pool of only 50-60 phonemes. This turns out not to be the case. Individual languages commonly have that many. English by itself has

[Sugar-devel] Collaboration for museum project

2009-03-23 Thread Edward Cherlin
The Tech Museum of Innovation in San Jose would like to create an exhibit of XOs and invite school classes in with their teachers. This depends on how well we can get collaboration working. I have had many failures with mesh networking, and have not tried a school server. How is that going? We

[Sugar-devel] jhbuild hangs

2009-03-24 Thread Edward Cherlin
I had sugar-jhbuild running until somebody told me it would conflict with the Ubuntu Sugar packages. I uninstalled the packages, and now sugar-jhbuild hangs on startup. Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing from list! unrecognised device identifier! (EE)

Re: [Sugar-devel] Collaboration for museum project

2009-03-24 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 5:48 AM, Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: The Tech Museum of Innovation in San Jose would like to create an exhibit of XOs and invite school classes in with their teachers. This depends

Re: [Sugar-devel] jhbuild hangs

2009-03-24 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 11:19:33AM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: 1237918544.817512 STARTUP: Starting the shell moku...@mokurai-laptop:~/dev/jhbuild/sugar-jhbuild$ XIO:  fatal IO error 11 (Resource

[Sugar-devel] jhbuild error--pyabiword not found

2009-03-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
I confirmed that accessing this directory in a browser gives 404 Not Found. http://www.sugarlabs.org/~marco/jhbuild/ I can see http://dev.laptop.org/~marco/ but that doesn't help. So...Where's pyabiword? ^_^ *** error during stage checkout of pyabiword: ## Error running wget

Re: [Sugar-devel] jhbuild error--pyabiword not found

2009-03-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 1:58 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi Edward, you seem to have a very old version of sugar-jhbuild. in .git/config, it points to git.sugarlabs.org or still to dev.laptop.org? Ah. I'll start fresh. Regards, Tomeu On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 09:55, Edward

[Sugar-devel] jhbuild error--missing autogen.sh

2009-03-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
During ./sugar-jhbuild build, *** Configuring calculate *** [33/39] ./autogen.sh --prefix /home/mokurai/dev/sugar-jhbuild/sugar-jhbuild/install --libdir '${exec_prefix}/lib64' /bin/sh: ./autogen.sh: not found *** error during stage configure of calculate: ## Error running ./autogen.sh

Re: [Sugar-devel] jhbuild error--pyabiword not found

2009-03-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 2:42 AM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 1:58 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi Edward, you seem to have a very old version of sugar-jhbuild. in .git/config, it points to git.sugarlabs.org or still to dev.laptop.org? Ah

Re: [Sugar-devel] jhbuild error--pyabiword not found

2009-03-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
Possibly I have a hint, though not at this point a clue. ^_^ That misspelled error message root window unavailible (maybe another wm is running?) is in matchbox code. http://mlblog.osdir.com/handhelds.matchbox/2003-04/txtCzBE9NwYUV.txt On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Edward Cherlin echer

Re: [Sugar-devel] Non-US non-XO keyboard (Was: 7 Meilen Stiefel or New Soas-2 image available)

2009-03-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 3:39 AM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Simon, I have read the thread but it seems to apply to XOs only My Acer Aspire One has a French azerty keyboard and boots up SoaS-1 and SoaS-2, but I can't find a way for it to see the French keyboard :-( The

Re: [Sugar-devel] jhbuild error--missing autogen.sh

2009-03-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 4:00 AM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 02:03:41AM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: /bin/sh: ./autogen.sh: not found I guess this was with the old copy of sugar-jhbuild? Yes. No problem compiling with the Sugar Labs git

[Sugar-devel] sugar-jhbuild--Sugar does not start

2009-03-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
So I switched to sugarlabs for git, and I put aside Walter's greatly out-of-date xsession instructions, and I started fresh. Sugar-jhbuild downloads, checks out, and compiles with no evident issues. But whether I run ./sugar-jhbuild run or ./sugar-jhbuild run sugar-emulator I get Could not

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-jhbuild--Sugar does not start

2009-03-29 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 4:13 AM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 08:32:59PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing from list! [...] You can ignore all of these. Thanks. I thought

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-jhbuild--Sugar does not start

2009-03-29 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 02:01:11PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: 1. Ensure no RPATH has been set on libraries used by sugar-jhbuild; see [1] for instructions. Check. Strange. From the error message

Re: [Sugar-devel] sugar-jhbuild--Sugar does not start

2009-03-30 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 11:07:01PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: Xephyr cannot open host display. Is DISPLAY set? This is getting rather interesting (i.e. very strange). Indeed. How exactly did you

[Sugar-devel] sugar-jhbuild--unaccountably working

2009-04-02 Thread Edward Cherlin
I have not made any changes to my sugar-jhbuild for several days. However, I installed the Ubuntu Sugar packages in order to have _something_ to use. Now sugar-jhbuild mostly works. In particular, I am delighted with the new TurtleArt. I can put further bug reports into Trac, and not bother this

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Grassroots-l] personal Re: Experience w/ using GPS with XO laptops

2009-04-04 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Jeff Mascornick jjm4...@yahoo.com wrote: Thank you Steve! I am wondering about the LINUX based XO - I'm part of a team applying to deploy XOs to Tanzania and we are looking into incorporating GPS for cultural exchange/learning, environmental education and/or

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Grassroots-l] personal Re: Experience w/ using GPS with XO laptops

2009-04-04 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 4:10 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 12:24:57AM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: Another possibility is to wait for Sugar to include Gnome. At that point most graphical Linux software will become

[Sugar-devel] Turtle Art in sugar-jhbuild--defaults to Spanish

2009-04-10 Thread Edward Cherlin
Why does TurtleArt in sugar-jhbuild default to Spanish? How do I change the language for TurtleArt? I have found the language-specific files in images, locale, and samples, and the place in turtleart.py that says to use the .es file, but there must be some other place that specifies Spanish,

[Sugar-devel] UCBLogo

2009-04-12 Thread Edward Cherlin
I see that UCBLogo is under GPL, and that there is a Sugarized version. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Project_Ideas#Logo_Activity There is a Sugarized Logo—UCB Logo—but it does not record data into the Journal or use the standard Sugar toolbar. There are two possible approaches

Re: [Sugar-devel] IMPORTANT: sugar-jhbuild: upstream jhbuild migrated to new location

2009-04-19 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: Hi! The upstream part of jhbuild has been migrated (by GNOME) to a new location, so if you've got a copy of sugar-jhbuild, you need to follow. I'm sure there's a proper git way to do it, but for now it's

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Resuming Snapshot Creation

2009-04-23 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Sebastian Dziallas sebast...@when.com wrote: Hi folks, after our most recent beta release, we've now a new image ready for you! This is the first of a number of snapshots on our road to another real SoaS release. Links to the iso image, as well as the archive

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Ubuntu 9.04 will not start

2009-04-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
-vesa version 1:2.0.0.1ubuntu6 On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:56 AM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 02:34:21PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: o The culprit appears to be a security setting in config/dbus that prevents Xephyr from accessing the display

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Ubuntu 9.04 will not start

2009-04-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
Python 2.5  modules, but Python 2.6 is default in Jaunty's package which makes Browse not start. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sugar-hulahop/+bug/364871 2009/4/27 Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com: I'm not clear on the nature of your problem. I have no difficulty running a SoaS image

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Ubuntu 9.04 will not start

2009-04-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 03:50:37PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: So SoaS,  Jaunty packages, and sugar-jhbuild on Jaunty all fail in different ways. Not good. What versions of 0.84 actually work? SoaS works for me

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Ubuntu 9.04 will not start

2009-04-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
Thank you. That makes much more sense now. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 01:32:34PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: I'm not clear on the nature of your problem. When running Ubuntu Jaunty _within_ KVM (i.e

[Sugar-devel] SoaS Beta (0.84) in qemu

2009-04-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
After I found that Turtle Art is broken in the latest SoaS image, I went back to the earlier beta and ran it in qemu. I now have what I need to start serious work on using Turtle Art to teach math. For anybody else who may be interested, here is one way to do it on Ubuntu Intrepid or Jaunty,

[Sugar-devel] sugar-jhbuild error--compiles but fails to initialize

2009-05-04 Thread Edward Cherlin
I'm going to keep on doing this every once in a while, but I'm not holding my breath. Fortunately, I can actually use the SoaS Beta in qemu. Ubuntu 9.04 $ ./sugar-jhbuild run [dix] Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing from list! [config/dbus] couldn't take

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2009-05-11

2009-05-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
For many people, the easiest starting point for reporting tests of SoaS is on the Wiki, at the appropriate subpage of http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Getting_Involved, such as http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Getting_Involved/Testing/Soas-beta_20090423 Instructions for

[Sugar-devel] Fwd: [IAEP] The eBook ah ha moment for Sugar on a Stick

2009-05-12 Thread Edward Cherlin
at 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [IAEP] The eBook ah ha moment for Sugar on a Stick To: Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com Cc: iaep i...@lists.sugarlabs.org On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: Add the Bible and Qur'an reader programs? Those should at least

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] How Can We Showcase Turtle Art Portfolio

2009-05-12 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:23 PM, John Tierney jtis4...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello All, Would like commentary from the community on how we can try and showcase the abilities of Turtle art Portfolio We are hearing excellent reports from schools about how it impacts learning. I think we could get

Re: [Sugar-devel] Simplifying sugar-jhbuild

2009-05-20 Thread Edward Cherlin
+1 overall. The Wiki recommends sugar-jhbuild as an environment for developers. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team Development systems All of core Sugar development except system-dependent modifications can be done on a standard computer by compiling jhbuild and editing with your

Re: [Sugar-devel] Simplifying sugar-jhbuild

2009-05-22 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: As with any other sugar module, people want to run the latest code because it will contain bugfixes, etc. I see hulahop in the same way. As with any other module of anything, some people want to run Stable, some want

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar in jaunty chroots... working today.

2009-05-26 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org wrote: Hi folks, I just wanted to report a small victory: I worked out instructions at   http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Chroot which enabled me to run today's Ubuntu Jaunty sugar packages in a debootstrap

Re: [Sugar-devel] Physics activity development

2009-05-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 4:52 AM, Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in the same situation (well, I will be when I get my macbook back). I do see a lot of talk towards making Sugar and activities behave more like standard applications. Perhaps Sugar will work on OS X natively

Re: [Sugar-devel] Running Sugar with sugar-jhbuild - questions

2009-05-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com wrote: I did a fresh install of sugar-jhbuild. Likewise. ./sugar-jhbuild depscheck doesn't advertize the need for python-distutils-extra.  Recent bug reports about this: http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/902

Re: [Sugar-devel] Running Sugar with sugar-jhbuild - questions

2009-05-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:35:20AM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: However, I had to invoke 'force checkout' several times, because of missing .git directories. Interesting. Where exactly? TurtleArt

Re: [Sugar-devel] Running Sugar with sugar-jhbuild - questions

2009-05-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com wrote: Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com writes: You want 'setxkbmap fr'. It works!  Great, thanks. Is there something similar to .xsession where I could put this instruction, so that I don't need to run the script from

[Sugar-devel] FM--DocBook (was Fwd: [FM Discuss] Fwd: Documentation ...)

2009-06-01 Thread Edward Cherlin
this but i believe there is some good stuff online about html-docbook transformations if you can write a shell script to do it then we can hack it in somehow adam On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 16:12 -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: How hard would it be to get the FM software to generate Docbook XML? That would

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] collaboration testing session

2009-06-05 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:09 PM, David Van Asschedvanass...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks,    We are having a collaborative sugar testing session next week Wednesday 10th June at 20:00 UTC (That is 4 pm EDT, 3pm EST, 2 pm CST, 1 pm MST, and 12 pm PST, most of Europe that will be 9 pm, 8 pm for the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal files on regular desktop

2009-06-06 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 3:16 AM, Tomeu Vizosoto...@sugarlabs.org wrote: About a hierarchical file browser in Sugar, I think we need it anyway for removable devices, but I'm not sure where we would put such a window and how it would look like. Regards, Tomeu I have been using the character

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gsoc proposal: Speech Synthesis

2009-06-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:03 AM, chirag jainchiragjain1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I proposed for the speech-synthesis in Gsoc 09. My proposal can be viewed at : http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/speech-synthesis As a first phase of my development, I have implemented the speech and karoke style

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gsoc proposal: Speech Synthesis

2009-06-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Jonas Smedegaardd...@jones.dk wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:46:22PM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:03 AM, chirag jainchiragjain1...@gmail.com wrote: A basic speech configuration

Re: [Sugar-devel] Physics Roadmap

2009-06-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
Did you look at my Turtle Art version of Alan Kay's third-grade gravity lesson? http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Gravity.odt On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Brian Jordanbcjor...@gmail.com wrote: Attaching Sugar Devel (people who want to be involved with Physics development  might be on

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] learning implode...

2009-06-17 Thread Edward Cherlin
How about writing this up for OLPC News? On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 1:05 AM, Sameer Vermasve...@sfsu.edu wrote: My daughter, who is 3 years and 7 months old has largely stayed away from the XO (or for that matter computers in general) other than mimicking me by turning on the XO and giving our

[Sugar-devel] SVG problem workaround

2009-06-19 Thread Edward Cherlin
I rendered the offending tiles on my laptop, and copied them into the virtual image. So I can start posting lessons tomorrow, barring further interruptions. -- Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name And Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my

Re: [Sugar-devel] Testing streamlined sugar-jhbuild

2009-06-19 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Jonas Smedegaardd...@jones.dk wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hi Bernie and others, [commenting since I was adressed personally] On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 06:46:25PM +0200, Bernie Innocenti wrote: we'd like to get the streamlined

[Sugar-devel] Journal feature request--more data in main display

2009-06-21 Thread Edward Cherlin
We have about 60 characters worth of blank space in every Journal entry. It would be a great help if we could display 40-50 characters from the description field for each entry on the main page. We could also drop off the word Activity from every Activity name. I am going to create dozens of

Re: [Sugar-devel] Customizing a Master Stick

2009-06-21 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Walter Benderwalter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: The user info is in .sugar/default/gconf/desktop/sugar/user Delete .sugar/default/gconf/desktop/sugar/user/%gconf.xml .sugar/default/gconf doesn't exist in the SoaS image I am using from May 3. -walter On Sun, Jun

[Sugar-devel] Strawberry VDI, please

2009-06-25 Thread Edward Cherlin
Several SoaS betas were made available as .vdi files suitable for use in VirtualBox. Can we get Strawberry in this form? Or can somebody tell me how to create one? -- Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name And Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The

Re: [Sugar-devel] Strawberry VDI, please

2009-06-25 Thread Edward Cherlin
know how it goes. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/VirtualBox Thanks, Caroline On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: Several SoaS betas were made available as .vdi files suitable for use in VirtualBox. Can we get Strawberry in this form? Or can somebody tell

Re: [Sugar-devel] Strawberry VDI, please

2009-06-25 Thread Edward Cherlin
Works fine on Virtualbox OSE on Ubuntu J. Thx everybody. I see several important improvements already. More testing tonight. On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you. Downloading now. I am on a FLOSS Manuals book sprint today, but I can report back

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: How do I get to upload a very nice VMware appliance to sunjammer?

2009-06-25 Thread Edward Cherlin
Somebody got a VDI working. We need to spread links around the Wiki on this. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/VirtualBox#Sugar_on_a_Stick http://www.sugarlabs.org/static/soas/soas-strawberry-vdi.zip On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Bert Freudenbergb...@freudenbergs.de wrote: Great! I was trying to

Re: [Sugar-devel] picked up by [some media]

2009-06-25 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sorry Jonas, I had assumed the success of our launch (3700 SoaS downloads yesterday) would be of interest to all Sugar Labs contributors, in particular those who worked so hard on it. Does anyone else feel it's too much

Re: [Sugar-devel] Flossmanuals?

2009-06-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Bastienbastiengue...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm a bit skeptical about using flossmanuals for co-writing and translating Sugar's documentation. What are the real benefits over a simple wiki? The documentation on the OLPC and SugarLabs Wikis is barely usable for

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal feature request--more data in main display

2009-06-29 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Tomeu Vizosoto...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 20:13, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: Hi Tomeu, On 28 Jun 2009, at 09:59, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: 2009/6/21 Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com: We have about 60 characters worth of blank

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal feature request--more data in main display

2009-06-29 Thread Edward Cherlin
Oh, Michael, you're in trouble now. ^_^ You risk reinventing the data-centric Ontology in an Object-Oriented Programming form. This is one of the worst sinks for time and mental energy that I know of. It saps the will, because soon users become obsessed with making the map match the territory,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal --- Sugar-Developers meeting REMINDER (2 July, 2009 - 14.00 (UTC)) --- irc.freenode.net, #sugar-meeting

2009-07-03 Thread Edward Cherlin
I'm expecting you all to invent Linux groups any minute now. ^_^ On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Andrés Ambroisandresambr...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 03 July 2009 02:29:56 pm Eben Eliason wrote: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 2 Jul 2009, at

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] The next Step: v2 Roadmap

2009-07-06 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Sebastian Dziallassebast...@when.com wrote: Hi everybody, so here it is, the Sugar on a Stick v2 Roadmap: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Roadmap#Roadmap Feedback is appreciated, and as we've just entered brainstorming phase, please go ahead

Re: [Sugar-devel] Jaunty up and running

2009-07-06 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 11:25 AM, James Michael DuPontjames.michael.dup...@flossk.org wrote: Sascha, It build and installed all according to the instructions. I dont have this all here at the moment as I said. If you have any questions, you can see my build snapshot, that contains everything.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal feature request--more data in main display

2009-07-06 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Eben Eliasone...@laptop.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Gary C Marting...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 3 Jul 2009, at 10:01, Martin Langhoff wrote: Wishlist: show files by size filter or option? If the Uruguay experience is any indicator, a fact of life

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar as desktop os

2009-07-10 Thread Edward Cherlin
2009/7/10 Philippe Clérié phili...@gcal.net: I am looking into implenting sugar for a Montessori school. Maria would be so pleased. +1 Where is your school? Is there a Sugar/XO user group nearby? The current plan is to start with 10 to 20 (depending on budget) computers for a group of about

Re: [Sugar-devel] Problems running Sugar under Jaunty (9.04)

2009-07-10 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Frederick Grosefgr...@gmail.com wrote: A new entry today on http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Community/Distributions/Ubuntu: (from) Neil Mayhew 16:28, 10 July 2009 (UTC) I was able to make the sugar packages work by adding a gconf setting: gconftool-2 -s

[Sugar-devel] Haiti dormant (was Re: Sugar as desktop os)

2009-07-10 Thread Edward Cherlin
2009/7/10 Philippe Clérié phili...@gcal.net: We're located in Haiti. Excellent. I had a hand in getting Kreyol localization started. Sorry I left that off. And before anyone asks :-) we're not part of the pilot that was scheduled to begin in Haiti last year. I briefly worked with them. As

Re: [Sugar-devel] Haiti dormant (was Re: Sugar as desktop os)

2009-07-10 Thread Edward Cherlin
2009/7/10 Philippe Clérié phili...@gcal.net: Did the laptops get distributed first? If not, where are they? No the laptops were not distributed as far as I know. As to where they are, the information is not public so I don't know. Excellent. I had a hand in getting Kreyol localization

Re: [Sugar-devel] Nobody understands Keep

2009-07-11 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 2:28 AM, Tomeu Vizosoto...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 05:41, Eben Eliasone...@laptop.org wrote: On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 10:45 +0100, Martin Dengler wrote: On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 09:52:23AM +0100, Daniel Drake wrote: Nobody in the world seems to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Initial implementation of toolbars design

2009-07-12 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Walter Benderwalter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: One comment re Write toolbars: there are numerous reports from the field that we don't support bulleted lists, et al. I think the pull-down menu on the style tab is not discoverable (in fact pulldown menus in general

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Turtle Art-54

2009-07-13 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Sugar Labs Activitiesactivit...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Url: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4027 Release notes: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4027#release-notes There is nothing in the Release Notes. Version 54 — July 13, 2009 — 3,330 KB What

[Sugar-devel] Empty HTML from Turtle Art

2009-07-15 Thread Edward Cherlin
I have tried saving to HTML in several versions of Turtle Art up through 51, but have gotten only HTML files with empty bodies. body /body Is the code there? -- Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name And Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Share sugar objects on a standalone server

2009-07-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: Hi all, One of lacks that sugar environment has is simple way to share sugar objects for broad audience i.e. like scratch community has[1] (thanks to davidmorris form #sugar). Yes, teachers and content developers need

[Sugar-devel] Language control panel broken: Chinese + Russian displayed

2009-07-17 Thread Edward Cherlin
There are serious bugs in language switching in My Settings (the Sugar Control Panel). One is that switching to a language can result in bits of some other language appearing, and switching back does not necessarily restore the original language entirely. I have attached a portion of a screen

Re: [Sugar-devel] Language control panel broken: Chinese + Russian displayed

2009-07-19 Thread Edward Cherlin
Your supposition turns out to be incorrect. (below) On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 5:35 AM, Sayamindu Dasguptasayami...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Tomeu Vizosoto...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 01:54, Edward Cherlinecher...@gmail.com wrote: There are

Re: [Sugar-devel] Language control panel broken: Chinese + Russian displayed

2009-07-20 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 2:58 AM, Tomeu Vizosoto...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 01:54, Edward Cherlinecher...@gmail.com wrote: There are serious bugs in language switching in My Settings (the Sugar Control Panel). Would be better to track each of these issues in individual

Re: [Sugar-devel] New activity Graph

2009-07-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 1:44 AM, Xenofon Papadopoulosxpa...@gmail.com wrote: I have added a new activity I'm working on to the git repository, name is Graph, it is plotting graphs of 1st and 2nd degree polynomials. Have you seen the plot() function in Calculate? It can plot a wide range of

[Sugar-devel] Cannot resume/install .xo bundles in Journal

2009-07-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
The Wiki entry http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Journal_Activity#Installing_activities says .xo bundles that are downloaded from the Browse activity are stored in the Journal. By resuming the activity from the Journal entry will both launch it and install it on the taskbar. However, Resume does not

Re: [Sugar-devel] Cannot resume/install .xo bundles in Journal

2009-07-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:24 AM, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:19:52AM -0700, Edward Cherlin wrote: The Wiki entry http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Journal_Activity#Installing_activities says .xo bundles that are downloaded from the Browse activity

Re: [Sugar-devel] Duplication of Effort: Don't do it.

2009-07-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartzbmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have lately seen a lot of duplication of effort in Sugar.  I think this is bad.  The success of Sugar demands discipline and careful planning from its

Re: [Sugar-devel] TuxPaint and saving to journal (Was: Duplication of effort)

2009-07-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
If those who know where things are and how things work are willing, we can create proper Sugar API documentation. I'll help. On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Ton van Overbeektvoverb...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Luke Faraonel...@faraone.cc wrote: On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at

Re: [Sugar-devel] TuxPaint and saving to journal (Was: Duplication of effort)

2009-07-27 Thread Edward Cherlin
Actually, I see Sugar API documentation at http://api.sugarlabs.org/ including Module dbus_helpers. Does this help? On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Edward Cherlinecher...@gmail.com wrote: If those who know where things are and how things work are willing, we can create proper Sugar API

Re: [Sugar-devel] GPA Class Notes July 22 - GS

2009-07-28 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Greg Smithgregsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I posted the full notes here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Gardner_Pilot_Academy#Class_notes Thanks. Three high level points: - Kids have no trouble finding new activities (e.g. Write) and they want to have

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