[Sugar-devel] Maintaining the sugar-live-build

Hi all, first post here. Old Unix hack, new to live-build and Sugar. Short version: The cheapest used laptops are 32-bit but all Sugar Live images require a 64-bit CPU. Only sugar-live-build can easily be rebuilt without much technical knowledge, but when built suffers from a metacity bug which

Re: [Sugar-devel] Maintaining the sugar-live-build

On 26/10/2020, Chihurumnaya Ibiam wrote: >> Fedora Soas boots into a lightdm login screen without ever telling you >> that the required username is "liveuser". > Yes there's a discussion for the bug here [...] Thanks for that > I don't know how to build SOAS images yet but you > can find F29

Re: [Sugar-devel] SLOB meeting notes 2020-12-23

On 23/12/2020, Walter Bender wrote: > MISSION > Sugar Labs® is a volunteer-driven member project of > Software Freedom Conservancy, a nonprofit corporation. Nice words, but what I see from down here is that the leading developers are the paid ones (who not only do the work they're paid to do but

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] SLOB meeting notes 2020-12-23

On 26/12/2020, James Cameron wrote: > it is possible to gather some of the hours spent on tasks by > using GitHub to monitor specific developers. Relatively. It only stats github activity, while the time taken to arrive at github activity can be anything, plus email time for stuff pertaining to

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Trisquel image Ready for testing.

Hi again. An issue and a question about TOAST 9.0: - The IKnowMyABC activity, it seems, should speak the letter names, but we couldn't get it to say anything. In case it was to do with the audio volume issues, we then launched Speak and that spoke. - How does one build the TOAST ISO image?

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Trisquel image Ready for testing.

t;"Get Sugar" be "Live System" or something similarly descriptive instead of "SOAS", which means nothing to the uninitiated). M On 20/11/2020, Martin Guy wrote: > Present at http://us.archive.trisquel.info/iso/trisquel-sugar_9.0_i686.iso >

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Trisquel image Ready for testing.

> First, thanks to all who have made Trisquel On A Stick TOAST a reality Trisquel on a Sugar TOAST. Gnash! ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] New Trisquel Sugar Live version

On 16/12/2020, James Cameron wrote: >> Well, that's not a problem with a Live System. I love them also >> because they cannot break unless the medium gets physical damage! > > So this Trisquel can't be installed? Also. If they want to install it and break it, that's fine as they can always

Re: [Sugar-devel] GTK 4.0 Release

On 18/12/2020, Chihurumnaya Ibiam wrote: > GTK 4.0 was released a few days ago > This means that in no distant time we'll be looking at porting activities > to GTK4. Given that the OSes that Sugar is based on will take several years to include that in their stable releases, and that GTK3 will be

[Sugar-devel] New Trisquel Sugar Live version

There is now a second version of trisquel-sugar_9.0_i686.iso including world language support. See https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trisquel_On_A_Sugar_Toast for info. Known defects are collecting in https://gitlab.trisquel.org/trisquel/makeiso/-/issues If anyone fancies testing it further or

Re: [Sugar-devel] New Trisquel Sugar Live version

On 15/12/2020, James Cameron wrote: > Original decision to do so was based on risk of having kids come back > to their teachers with non-working laptops. Well, that's not a problem with a Live System. I love them also because they cannot break unless the medium gets physical damage! Like I say

Re: [Sugar-devel] Today's Minutes and Next Meeting Time

On 11/12/2020, James Cameron wrote: > I agree that the mailing list should be mentioned as a priority. Just my two pennies' worth: I've never got on with IRC for technical/strategic discussions, as I find it occupies me totally and I can't do anything else, while I can go to email when I choose

Re: [Sugar-devel] Some questions about Sugar and Sugar Live Build

Thanks to all, that's cleared up my confusion On 12/11/2020, Jui Pradhan wrote: > The XO-color you choose is used to distinguish players for the activities > which include collaboration. OK. However I see that it chooses random colors initially in any case, so that should still work. What I'd

Re: [Sugar-devel] Some questions about Sugar and Sugar Live Build

>> At present the only available language option is EN-US but the > Are you running F33 SOAS? No, the Sugar Live Build, as yet fairly unmodified. Trisquel Sugar Toast instead only presents English and Espanol if I remember correctly, but making it available in all languages would increase its

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Trisquel image Ready for testing.

On 20/11/2020, Martin Guy wrote: > On 19/11/2020, Ruben wrote: >> On 11/4/20 4:34 PM, Martin Guy wrote: >>> I have managed to get all the Activities in Etiona installed. >> Could you describe your overall build goal? > > I am hoping that the Trisquel 386 ima

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Trisquel image Ready for testing.

On 19/11/2020, Ruben wrote: > On 11/4/20 4:34 PM, Martin Guy wrote: >> I have managed to get all the Activities in Etiona installed. > Could you describe your overall build goal? My goal was a Sugar live system with lots of activities that works on 32-bit hardware, which is the cheap

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Trisquel image Ready for testing.

Present at http://us.archive.trisquel.info/iso/trisquel-sugar_9.0_i686.iso ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Trisquel image Ready for testing.

On 19/11/2020, Ruben wrote: > The i386 image was produced at the same time as the amd64 one, and is > available at > https://cdimage.trisquel.info/trisquel-images/trisquel-sugar_9.0_i386.iso 404 Not Found and the 64-bit image has also disappeared. M

Re: [Sugar-devel] Where to fetch activities from for a live build and how to auto-select many?

Thanks, that's all useful info. On 08/11/2020, James Cameron wrote: > On Sat, Nov 07, 2020 at 09:58:39PM +0000, Martin Guy wrote: >> For the Sugar Live Build Games or Everything, I'm curently fetching >> Activities from under github.com/sugarlabs >> Should I b

[Sugar-devel] Help testing a nasty bug affecting Sugar Live Build

I'm trying to isolate a strange bug, probably in the XOrg accelerated video drivers or in the way that Sugar uses them, which makes github.com/login show the Username/Password box for one second and then makes the whole tab gray. The same happens on try.sugarizer.org -> End -> New user. More:

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Trisquel image Ready for testing.

Thanks. I'm flattered that my previous email became the release announcement! On 23/11/2020, James Cameron wrote: > On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 08:03:02AM +0100, Martin Guy wrote: >> - The alsa "Headphone" control is muted, so no sound comes out of >> external speak

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Trisquel image Ready for testing.

On 23/11/2020, James Cameron wrote: > Or the adding the pulseaudio package is not the right way to convince > GStreamer to work with ALSA. > [...] if you can find out how TOAST did this, it could then be done in > Sugar Live Build. OK, I'll have a look at that. Always happy to get rid of

[Sugar-devel] Some questions about Sugar and Sugar Live Build

Hi all I have a couple of questions about Sugar and SLB that I haven't managed to answer yet, so if anyone knows, that would be a boost for me. * What difference does it make if one selects a different age group at the startup screen? Also, if it's "nothing" as it seems, where would I look

[Sugar-devel] Where to fetch activities from for a live build and how to auto-select many?

Hi! For the Sugar Live Build Games or Everything, I'm curently fetching Activities from under github.com/sugarlabs editing auto/config to add lines like clone https://github.com/sugarlabs/abacus Abacus.activity Should I be fetching these from actiities.sugarlabs.org instead

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Trisquel image Ready for testing.

On 03/11/2020, Chihurumnaya Ibiam wrote: > On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 11:20 AM Martin Guy wrote: >> > the included activities are: >> > >> > abacus >> > analyzejournal >> > browse >> > calculate >> > ... >> >> I've

Re: [Sugar-devel] State of Sugar?

On 29/10/2020, Bastien wrote: > "State of Sugar". Absolutely. I'll let better-informed people answer the Q's. For myself, I surveyed the various forms of bootable Sugar distros and would be happy to post the results. M ___ Sugar-devel mailing list

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Trisquel image Ready for testing.

Excellent! Only amd64? :) M On 29/10/2020, Chihurumnaya Ibiam wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > The sugar trisquel image has been released > > by Ruben and it needs to be tested. > > He'd said this earlier; > > It took

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Trisquel image Ready for testing.

> the included activities are: > > abacus > analyzejournal > browse > calculate > ... I've been looking at what activities to include in a Sugar Live Everything i386 release, but it looks like you've made my task easier. Shall I call it Sugar Live Trisqel in honour of the Activity selection or do

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Trisquel image Ready for testing.

Does the metadistro it's based on still provide i386? If so, making a 32-bit image should be a doddle. If not... M ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] State of Sugar?

On 02/11/2020, Bastien wrote: > James Cameron writes: > >> I disagree that the focus has shifted or that it should be shifted >> back to what it was. The state of Sugar Labs, Sugar, Sugarizer, and >> Music Blocks is due to the contributors we have, and they are too few. > I understand the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Trisquel image Ready for testing.

On Tue, 3 Nov 2020 at 23:01, James Cameron wrote: > On Tue, Nov 03, 2020 at 02:16:27PM +0100, Martin Guy wrote: > > I notice that Music Blocks isn't in the Trisquel Etiona set > Music Blocks doesn't run as a Sugar activity yet. OK, thanks. > > Of the other activities, I couldn

Re: [Sugar-devel] Second Call for Candidacies Sugar Labs Oversight Board Elections 2020-2022

Re: oversight board, I would be happy to apply since I gather that achieving a quorum has been an obstacle to its effectiveness, but I feel too new to Sugar and its community to know the ins and outs of Sugar Labs. That said, if a slot does remain vacant and I could usefully fill it, I would be

Re: [Sugar-devel] Second Call for Candidacies Sugar Labs Oversight Board Elections 2020-2022

On 04/11/2020, devin@ulibarri.website wrote: > From Ibiam: >> They're five(5) seats now available for candidates> Feel free to add >> yourself to > https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2020-2022-candidates > > It appears that the time > for the deadline was never specified, so you may

Re: [Sugar-devel] Maintaining the sugar-live-build

Gah, this default-reply-to-author-only choice is inconvenient. Forwarding... Thanks Joe, that all sounds like good stuff. On 28/10/2020, D. Joe wrote: > a long (if haphazard) connection to using live images I'm a big fan of Live CDs since that technology became possible in 2002ish, not only

Re: [Sugar-devel] 2021-01-03 meeting minutes

On 03/02/2021, Walter Bender wrote: >> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Meeting_Minutes-2021-02-03 > Alex mentioned that he has been running Sugar on some low-end hardware and it > works great > except for video in Browse. (Video on the same hardware on FF works fine.) He >

Re: [Sugar-devel] SLOB meeting reminder

OK, I thought I'd make this official, hoping that someone may be able to act better given correct information. I'm not working on Sugar any more because Cameron first invited me so enthusiastically and was so helpful, then when I started working (and I smash rocks) he would never approve any of