Re: [Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-12-12 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 01:48:19PM -0500, Wade Brainerd wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Aleksey Lim wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I've coded[1] initial implementation[2] for "standalone" 0install mode, > > w/o any support from shell. So, activity could bundle saccharin module > > to .xo and

Re: [Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-12-12 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 11:31:43PM +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 2:00 AM, Aleksey Lim wrote: > > I've coded[1] initial implementation[2] for "standalone" 0install mode, > > w/o any support from shell. So, activity could bundle saccharin module > > to .xo and maybe 0instal

Re: [Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-12-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 2:00 AM, Aleksey Lim wrote: > I've coded[1] initial implementation[2] for "standalone" 0install mode, > w/o any support from shell. So, activity could bundle saccharin module > to .xo and maybe 0install pure python library as well(otherwise system > should have already inst

Re: [Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-12-12 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Aleksey Lim wrote: > Hi all, > > I've coded[1] initial implementation[2] for "standalone" 0install mode, > w/o any support from shell. So, activity could bundle saccharin module > to .xo and maybe 0install pure python library as well(otherwise system > should have

Re: [Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-12-11 Thread Aleksey Lim
Hi all, I've coded[1] initial implementation[2] for "standalone" 0install mode, w/o any support from shell. So, activity could bundle saccharin module to .xo and maybe 0install pure python library as well(otherwise system should have already installed zeroinstall-injector package, it could be any

Re: [Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-10-16 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Thu, 15-10-2009 a las 19:18 +0200, Martin Langhoff escribió: > Ok - that's good. I am familiar with the limitations we are hitting > with rpm and dpkg. What I truly wonder about is things like > 'autopackage' and klik. > > See also the 'see also' section in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Ins

Re: [Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-10-15 Thread DancesWithCars
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: >> Honestly? I think the most interesting feature of Zero Install is that >> it has an active development community working to solve the same hard >> problems that we are facing with

Re: [Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-10-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > Honestly? I think the most interesting feature of Zero Install is that > it has an active development community working to solve the same hard > problems that we are facing with our XO bundles. Ok - that's good. I am familiar with the lim

Re: [Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-10-15 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Thu, 15-10-2009 a las 10:32 +0200, Martin Langhoff escribió: > I think it's a very good idea to look into a userdir-centric packaging > system such as z-i. There are of course a few other alternatives, and > very well considered critiques of these systems (from OS-centric > packagers usually ;-)

Re: [Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-10-15 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:05 AM, DancesWithCars wrote: > yes, what is you exec overview/ > why are you proposing to discard .xo bundling? > or is this an option? > I don't think that we're discussing discarding .xo bundling. I think we're discussing augmenting .xo bundling with 0install to br

Re: [Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-10-15 Thread DancesWithCars
yes, what is you exec overview/ why are you proposing to discard .xo bundling? or is this an option? With the XO 1.5 including a gnome desktop and just for development purposes, and environmental running environments having a broader base (read multi linux distro and even aspartamine) and multi wi

Re: [Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-10-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 6:39 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > Zero Install appears to have identified reasonable compromises for many > of these trade-offs. While I'm not yet claiming that z-i would be a (Keeping it in the Sugar side... ) I think it's a very good idea to look into a userdir-centric

Re: [Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-10-13 Thread Neil Graham
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:45:20 +, Aleksey Lim wrote: > I'm personally +1024 for 0install integration(and even in 0.88 cycle), I'll add my two bits and make that +7168, I'm working on a non-sugar XO environment and I'd much rather it be complimentary to Sugar rather than an either or. My system

Re: [Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-10-13 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 12:39:59AM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > Dear Zero Install developers, > > as you may know, Sugar is a learning environment consisting of > educational activities packaged and distributed as "bundles", which are > some kind of glorified zip files. > > This design was ch

[Sugar-devel] Zero-calorie bundles?

2009-10-12 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Dear Zero Install developers, as you may know, Sugar is a learning environment consisting of educational activities packaged and distributed as "bundles", which are some kind of glorified zip files. This design was chosen because we wanted to enable our learners to participate in the creation of