Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-20 Thread Sean DALY
I can't speak for the classroom, but in the house I have two kids very active with their Mac computers and often wishing to print. I think printing is an area where lots of little things can go wrong which need grownups to sort out. I have a single printer connected to a computer on the main

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-19 Thread Carol Farlow Lerche
Print queue management and quotas are key to this feature being usable in a classroom/school environment. Consumables are very expensive and kids love to hit print, often without thinking. So providing a way to place print jobs in a hold for review status is very important, IMHO, as well as

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-19 Thread Vamsi Krishna Davuluri
Carol, thanks for replying! Much appreciated! So in a classroom environment, can I assume the classroom server will be acting as the server? The thing is I never got proper input on what I branded obscure. Yes, I agree, if its a classroom environment I'll definitely add permission access and

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-19 Thread Vamsi Krishna Davuluri
class room/school server as the print server* On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Vamsi Krishna Davuluri vamsi.davul...@gmail.com wrote: Carol, thanks for replying! Much appreciated! So in a classroom environment, can I assume the classroom server will be acting as the server? The thing is I

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-19 Thread Wade Brainerd
2009/3/19 Carol Farlow Lerche c...@msbit.com: A problem with the desktop-oriented printer support in Unix and in Windows is that it has the underlying assumption that the person at the desktop should be in unfettered control of the ability to print (with lip service paid to an overall page

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-19 Thread Luke Faraone
2009/3/19 Vamsi Krishna Davuluri vamsi.davul...@gmail.com one question, the school server will be running on a normal distro, or sugar? Fedora CLI, see http://wiki.laptop.org/go/School_server 2009/3/19 Carol Farlow Lerche c...@msbit.com I disagree that print-to-pdf should be omitted. I

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-19 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Vamsi Krishna Davuluri wrote: But as tomeu had pointed out, what of the schools without servers? In that case printing would have a need to be done from the laptops themselves. Yes. There are lots of potential use cases that you might support, but

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-19 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eben Eliason wrote: I have to agree that a print to pdf function could be useful, though, especially since it means that every activity can create output that can be transferred elsewhere (via email, USB drive, etc.) for printing. This provides a

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-19 Thread Vamsi Krishna Davuluri
I see your point, I agree. I will do the elimination as is required, and this time include a milestones/deadlines in my hopefully final draft proposal. My main objective will be to send the file from the laptop through the network to the server, have the necessary code for it both sides.(and

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-19 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Vamsi Krishna Davuluri wrote: I see your point, I agree. I will do the elimination as is required, and this time include a milestones/deadlines in my hopefully final draft proposal. My main objective will be to send the file from the laptop

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-19 Thread pgf
vamsi krishna davuluri wrote: I see your point, I agree. I will do the elimination as is required, and this time include a milestones/deadlines in my hopefully final draft proposal. My main objective will be to send the file from the laptop through the network to the server, have the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-19 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eben Eliason wrote: I have to agree that a print to pdf function could be useful, though, especially since it means that every activity can create output that

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-19 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Wade Brainerd wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eben Eliason wrote: I have to agree that a print to pdf function could be useful, though, especially since it means that every activity

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-19 Thread Gary C Martin
On 19 Mar 2009, at 20:34, Benjamin M. Schwartz wrote: Wade Brainerd wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eben Eliason wrote: I have to agree that a print to pdf function could be useful,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-19 Thread Caroline Meeks
Another use case is the student wants to print from home. The work may have been done at school then the student comes home, either using SoaS or with a laptop and now wants to print on the parent's computer. 2009/3/19 Vamsi Krishna Davuluri vamsi.davul...@gmail.com Hello! So here is a

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-19 Thread Wade Brainerd
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: I was not aware of any existing Activity which saves printable images or documents to the Journal in a format that is not commonly used outside of Sugar.  Since you protested I looked through the source code

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-19 Thread Wade Brainerd
2009/3/19 Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc: 2009/3/19 Caroline Meeks carol...@meekshome.com Another use case is the student wants to print from home.  The work may have been done at school then the student comes home, either using SoaS or with a laptop and now wants to print on the parent's

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

2009-03-19 Thread Vamsi Krishna Davuluri
I was researching that, just extracting the print-pdf modules along with its dependencies and creating a new make (or package) should do the trick, but my knowledge limits me from seeing an implementation for it. On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/3/19