Re: [Sugar-devel] Web activities and i10n
On 06/06/2013 01:17 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Hello, I setup a fork of webL10n. I amdified it and replaced API with the gaia one minus the b2g specific stuff. https://github.com/sugarlabs/webL10n I do not see any changes from you there, why do we need the for again? Simon ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Web activities and i10n
On Thursday, 6 June 2013, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 06/06/2013 01:17 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Hello, I setup a fork of webL10n. I amdified it and replaced API with the gaia one minus the b2g specific stuff. https://github.com/sugarlabs/**webL10nhttps://github.com/sugarlabs/webL10n I do not see any changes from you there, why do we need the for again? They are on the sugar-web branch. You mean why we need the changes? Couple of reasons, to make it work well with requirejs and to get a better public API (the same gaia is using). This code is sort of thought to be forked, mozilla are forking it themself despite being the upstream in practice. -- Daniel Narvaez ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Web activities and i10n
I'm not sure they really need to be on a branch btw. I've doing that to keep master the same of upstream. But maybe fetching the upstream repo on another remote gives everything you need. On Thursday, 6 June 2013, Daniel Narvaez wrote: On Thursday, 6 June 2013, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 06/06/2013 01:17 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Hello, I setup a fork of webL10n. I amdified it and replaced API with the gaia one minus the b2g specific stuff. https://github.com/sugarlabs/**webL10nhttps://github.com/sugarlabs/webL10n I do not see any changes from you there, why do we need the for again? They are on the sugar-web branch. You mean why we need the changes? Couple of reasons, to make it work well with requirejs and to get a better public API (the same gaia is using). This code is sort of thought to be forked, mozilla are forking it themself despite being the upstream in practice. -- Daniel Narvaez -- Daniel Narvaez ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Web activities and i10n
On 06/06/2013 11:34 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: On Thursday, 6 June 2013, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 06/06/2013 01:17 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Hello, I setup a fork of webL10n. I amdified it and replaced API with the gaia one minus the b2g specific stuff. https://github.com/sugarlabs/**webL10nhttps://github.com/sugarlabs/webL10n I do not see any changes from you there, why do we need the for again? They are on the sugar-web branch. You mean why we need the changes? Couple of reasons, to make it work well with requirejs and to get a better public API (the same gaia is using). This code is sort of thought to be forked, mozilla are forking it themself despite being the upstream in practice. Oh, ok - did not see the branch. Thanks, gets clearer now. /me has not seen as many forks and copy-pastes as in the last weeks ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Web activities and i10n
On 06/06/2013 11:38 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: I'm not sure they really need to be on a branch btw. I've doing that to keep master the same of upstream. But maybe fetching the upstream repo on another remote gives everything you need. Yes, maybe using the master branch for the changes is a bit more clear, and then pull upstream into a separate branch. Simon ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Web activities and i10n
On Thursday, 6 June 2013, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 06/06/2013 11:34 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: On Thursday, 6 June 2013, Simon Schampijer wrote: On 06/06/2013 01:17 AM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: Hello, I setup a fork of webL10n. I amdified it and replaced API with the gaia one minus the b2g specific stuff. https://github.com/sugarlabs/webL10nhttps://github.com/sugarlabs/**webL10n https://github.com/**sugarlabs/webL10nhttps://github.com/sugarlabs/webL10n I do not see any changes from you there, why do we need the for again? They are on the sugar-web branch. You mean why we need the changes? Couple of reasons, to make it work well with requirejs and to get a better public API (the same gaia is using). This code is sort of thought to be forked, mozilla are forking it themself despite being the upstream in practice. Oh, ok - did not see the branch. Thanks, gets clearer now. /me has not seen as many forks and copy-pastes as in the last weeks Welcome to the magic world of JavaScript!! -- Daniel Narvaez ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Web activities and i10n
The sugar-web bits have landed. I used it to implement translations in sugar-web-template but it turns out using multiple translation files we trigger a webkit bug. SIgh. https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117313 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Web activities and i10n
This is for the use of activity:// uri scheme, right? I don't understand yet why is needed. Is due to limitations on the use of file:// ? Gonzalo On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: The sugar-web bits have landed. I used it to implement translations in sugar-web-template but it turns out using multiple translation files we trigger a webkit bug. SIgh. https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117313 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Web activities and i10n
We want each activity to have a different origin, several web APIs depends on that. http://www.w3.org/Security/wiki/Same_Origin_Policy On 6 June 2013 21:11, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: This is for the use of activity:// uri scheme, right? I don't understand yet why is needed. Is due to limitations on the use of file:// ? Gonzalo On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote: The sugar-web bits have landed. I used it to implement translations in sugar-web-template but it turns out using multiple translation files we trigger a webkit bug. SIgh. https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117313 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Daniel Narvaez ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Web activities and i10n
We discussed this in irc a bit more. The plan is to fork webL10N to make it an amd module. Activity authors will provide a reference translation in locales/, bundlebuilder will generate a .pot from it. When building a xo or installing, bundlebuilder will also convert .po files to .properties. I tried to hook up the js lib and it seems to work fine. I'm not sure how webkit chooses the language, LANG doesn't seem to affect it even if the code is using LC_ALL... but I'm sure we can figure it out. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Web activities and i10n
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: We discussed this in irc a bit more. The plan is to fork webL10N to make it an amd module. Activity authors will provide a reference translation in locales/, bundlebuilder will generate a .pot from it. When building a xo or installing, bundlebuilder will also convert .po files to .properties. Is locales a fixed directory? We already have locale, generated with the data from the po files, can be confusing. May be you can change the directory name? Gonzalo ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Web activities and i10n
I was thinking we would not have locale for web activities so it wouldn't
be confusing. Though I just realised we will actually have it for the
linfo. So yeah locales is not good. I can't think of a good name though...
translations/? weblocales?
On Wednesday, 5 June 2013, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
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We discussed this in irc a bit more. The plan is to fork webL10N to make
it an amd module. Activity authors will provide a reference translation in
locales/, bundlebuilder will generate a .pot from it. When building a xo or
installing, bundlebuilder will also convert .po files to .properties.
Is locales a fixed directory? We already have locale, generated with
the data from the po files,
can be confusing. May be you can change the directory name?
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Web activities and i10n
The developer need provide a .properties file or is this generated in a automatic way? If is generated, may be we can put it in the po directory? Gonzalo On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: I was thinking we would not have locale for web activities so it wouldn't be confusing. Though I just realised we will actually have it for the linfo. So yeah locales is not good. I can't think of a good name though... translations/? weblocales? On Wednesday, 5 June 2013, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote: We discussed this in irc a bit more. The plan is to fork webL10N to make it an amd module. Activity authors will provide a reference translation in locales/, bundlebuilder will generate a .pot from it. When building a xo or installing, bundlebuilder will also convert .po files to .properties. Is locales a fixed directory? We already have locale, generated with the data from the po files, can be confusing. May be you can change the directory name? Gonzalo -- Daniel Narvaez ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Web activities and i10n
The developer needs to provide a reference translation (so one of the files), then one file per translation will be generated by the build. On 5 June 2013 21:11, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: The developer need provide a .properties file or is this generated in a automatic way? If is generated, may be we can put it in the po directory? Gonzalo On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote: I was thinking we would not have locale for web activities so it wouldn't be confusing. Though I just realised we will actually have it for the linfo. So yeah locales is not good. I can't think of a good name though... translations/? weblocales? On Wednesday, 5 June 2013, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote: We discussed this in irc a bit more. The plan is to fork webL10N to make it an amd module. Activity authors will provide a reference translation in locales/, bundlebuilder will generate a .pot from it. When building a xo or installing, bundlebuilder will also convert .po files to .properties. Is locales a fixed directory? We already have locale, generated with the data from the po files, can be confusing. May be you can change the directory name? Gonzalo -- Daniel Narvaez -- Daniel Narvaez ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Web activities and i10n
I played with the tools. moz2po seems to work, but po2moz is not working. I opened a bug http://bugs.locamotion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2996 Bit surprised because it seems mozilla is using these tools... maybe they didn't upgrade to 1.10 yet. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Web activities and i10n
It might be an idea to ask on the Pootle list. https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/translate-pootle The same folks make the Translate Toolkit (moz2po, etc.) and I think they've had some funding from Mozilla as they are hosting the server below on Mozilla's behalf, which is definitely at the most current version. It is possible that a Pootle upgrade my get us some features they developed for Mozilla. http://mozilla.locamotion.org/ Pootle 2.5.1-alpha1 is powered by Translate Toolkit 1.10.0 cjl On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: I played with the tools. moz2po seems to work, but po2moz is not working. I opened a bug http://bugs.locamotion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2996 Bit surprised because it seems mozilla is using these tools... maybe they didn't upgrade to 1.10 yet. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Web activities and i10n
That's very interesting. I suspect they are using hooks to perform the conversion with po2moz and moz2po. That might actually be a better approach then doing the conversion in bundlebuilder. It keeps the source cleaner. Which pootle version are we running? On 5 June 2013 23:40, Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com wrote: It might be an idea to ask on the Pootle list. https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/translate-pootle The same folks make the Translate Toolkit (moz2po, etc.) and I think they've had some funding from Mozilla as they are hosting the server below on Mozilla's behalf, which is definitely at the most current version. It is possible that a Pootle upgrade my get us some features they developed for Mozilla. http://mozilla.locamotion.org/ Pootle 2.5.1-alpha1 is powered by Translate Toolkit 1.10.0 cjl On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote: I played with the tools. moz2po seems to work, but po2moz is not working. I opened a bug http://bugs.locamotion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2996 Bit surprised because it seems mozilla is using these tools... maybe they didn't upgrade to 1.10 yet. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Daniel Narvaez ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Web activities and i10n
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: That's very interesting. I suspect they are using hooks to perform the conversion with po2moz and moz2po. That might actually be a better approach then doing the conversion in bundlebuilder. It keeps the source cleaner. Which pootle version are we running? We are on Pootle 2.0.5 powered by Translate Toolkit 1.7.0 which is several versions behind the current Pootle 2.5.1-alpha1 powered by Translate Toolkit 1.10.0 I've tried recruiting help with upgrading our server (it is beyond my personal sysadmin-fu), but I keep on loosing my volunteers before they get started. Fortunately for me, (unfortunately for Sugar Labs), I am very busy with a new job as Science Officer for the Batten Disease Support and Research Association (a rare childhood disease patient advocacy group) and in the midst of a major grant review project that will take most of my time through the summer. cjl ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Web activities and i10n
Hello, I setup a fork of webL10n. I amdified it and replaced API with the gaia one minus the b2g specific stuff. https://github.com/sugarlabs/webL10n I sent a pull request to integrate this in sugar-web. https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-web/pull/38 Left to do * The naming of the .js file is sometimes l10n.js (which is what I want), sometimes webL10n.js. Let's see what we get when it's pulled from git, if it's wrong I'll have to understand the volo logic exactly. * Document how to use this, suggest a directory where to put .properties. * Write pootle hooks to convert po - properties. Perhaps we don't need to do that until we actually have activities to translate. Happy I don't have to touch bundlebuilder :) ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Web activities and i10n
On 6 June 2013 01:17, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Left to do * The naming of the .js file is sometimes l10n.js (which is what I want), sometimes webL10n.js. Let's see what we get when it's pulled from git, if it's wrong I'll have to understand the volo logic exactly. * Document how to use this, suggest a directory where to put .properties. * Write pootle hooks to convert po - properties. Perhaps we don't need to do that until we actually have activities to translate. * Translate sugar-web-template -- Daniel Narvaez ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Web activities and i10n
I had a look at the code and I don't see anything firefox specific, I suspect the full API will work on latest webkit (they try to support really old browsers and that's probably where they only support a basic API). The thing I'm not convinced about is using .properties files. But unless we can find a library which uses gettext and support translating html... perhaps we can just use prop2po. On 3 June 2013 22:56, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, we didn't really think about how to support translations of the web activities. This is how mozilla is doing it https://github.com/fabi1cazenave/webL10n It claims to be cross browsers but they have a modern API which is firefox only. I'm not sure what that exactly mean, but a basic API is probably better than having to write our own thing. They use ini files, but there are tools to convert to and from po files. http://docs.translatehouse.org/projects/translate-toolkit/en/latest/commands/prop2po.html?id=toolkit/prop2po -- Daniel Narvaez -- Daniel Narvaez ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Web activities and i10n
An alternative could be to combine webL10N and Jed http://slexaxton.github.io/Jed/ Either adapt webL10N to use Jed or add the dom bits of webL10N to Jed. The webL10N code is pretty simple, so it might easier then figuring out how to setup the prop2po build bits. On 3 June 2013 23:20, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: I had a look at the code and I don't see anything firefox specific, I suspect the full API will work on latest webkit (they try to support really old browsers and that's probably where they only support a basic API). The thing I'm not convinced about is using .properties files. But unless we can find a library which uses gettext and support translating html... perhaps we can just use prop2po. On 3 June 2013 22:56, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, we didn't really think about how to support translations of the web activities. This is how mozilla is doing it https://github.com/fabi1cazenave/webL10n It claims to be cross browsers but they have a modern API which is firefox only. I'm not sure what that exactly mean, but a basic API is probably better than having to write our own thing. They use ini files, but there are tools to convert to and from po files. http://docs.translatehouse.org/projects/translate-toolkit/en/latest/commands/prop2po.html?id=toolkit/prop2po -- Daniel Narvaez -- Daniel Narvaez -- Daniel Narvaez ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Web activities and i10n
Well, Jed apparently requires converting po to json too, so we won't save on the build bits. It probably doesn't solve the problem of extracting translatable strings either. On 4 June 2013 00:00, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: An alternative could be to combine webL10N and Jed http://slexaxton.github.io/Jed/ Either adapt webL10N to use Jed or add the dom bits of webL10N to Jed. The webL10N code is pretty simple, so it might easier then figuring out how to setup the prop2po build bits. On 3 June 2013 23:20, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: I had a look at the code and I don't see anything firefox specific, I suspect the full API will work on latest webkit (they try to support really old browsers and that's probably where they only support a basic API). The thing I'm not convinced about is using .properties files. But unless we can find a library which uses gettext and support translating html... perhaps we can just use prop2po. On 3 June 2013 22:56, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, we didn't really think about how to support translations of the web activities. This is how mozilla is doing it https://github.com/fabi1cazenave/webL10n It claims to be cross browsers but they have a modern API which is firefox only. I'm not sure what that exactly mean, but a basic API is probably better than having to write our own thing. They use ini files, but there are tools to convert to and from po files. http://docs.translatehouse.org/projects/translate-toolkit/en/latest/commands/prop2po.html?id=toolkit/prop2po -- Daniel Narvaez -- Daniel Narvaez -- Daniel Narvaez -- Daniel Narvaez ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Web activities and i10n
We could have activity authors provide the reference properties files in the locale directory. Bundle builder would generate the pot file from those using prop2po -P When building the xo bundle, it would then generate translated properties files using po2prop -t It seems like it should work and no real code to write other than the build bits :) On 4 June 2013 00:05, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Well, Jed apparently requires converting po to json too, so we won't save on the build bits. It probably doesn't solve the problem of extracting translatable strings either. On 4 June 2013 00:00, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: An alternative could be to combine webL10N and Jed http://slexaxton.github.io/Jed/ Either adapt webL10N to use Jed or add the dom bits of webL10N to Jed. The webL10N code is pretty simple, so it might easier then figuring out how to setup the prop2po build bits. On 3 June 2013 23:20, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: I had a look at the code and I don't see anything firefox specific, I suspect the full API will work on latest webkit (they try to support really old browsers and that's probably where they only support a basic API). The thing I'm not convinced about is using .properties files. But unless we can find a library which uses gettext and support translating html... perhaps we can just use prop2po. On 3 June 2013 22:56, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, we didn't really think about how to support translations of the web activities. This is how mozilla is doing it https://github.com/fabi1cazenave/webL10n It claims to be cross browsers but they have a modern API which is firefox only. I'm not sure what that exactly mean, but a basic API is probably better than having to write our own thing. They use ini files, but there are tools to convert to and from po files. http://docs.translatehouse.org/projects/translate-toolkit/en/latest/commands/prop2po.html?id=toolkit/prop2po -- Daniel Narvaez -- Daniel Narvaez -- Daniel Narvaez -- Daniel Narvaez -- Daniel Narvaez ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Web activities and i10n
Not sure where to put properties files (both reference and translated). Perhaps we could just follow mozilla and have them in the locales/ directory. It's a bit too similar to locale, which we are using to generate translations for native activities but it shouldn't be too confusing since for web activities that directory shouldn't exist. On 4 June 2013 00:21, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: We could have activity authors provide the reference properties files in the locale directory. Bundle builder would generate the pot file from those using prop2po -P When building the xo bundle, it would then generate translated properties files using po2prop -t It seems like it should work and no real code to write other than the build bits :) On 4 June 2013 00:05, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Well, Jed apparently requires converting po to json too, so we won't save on the build bits. It probably doesn't solve the problem of extracting translatable strings either. On 4 June 2013 00:00, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: An alternative could be to combine webL10N and Jed http://slexaxton.github.io/Jed/ Either adapt webL10N to use Jed or add the dom bits of webL10N to Jed. The webL10N code is pretty simple, so it might easier then figuring out how to setup the prop2po build bits. On 3 June 2013 23:20, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: I had a look at the code and I don't see anything firefox specific, I suspect the full API will work on latest webkit (they try to support really old browsers and that's probably where they only support a basic API). The thing I'm not convinced about is using .properties files. But unless we can find a library which uses gettext and support translating html... perhaps we can just use prop2po. On 3 June 2013 22:56, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, we didn't really think about how to support translations of the web activities. This is how mozilla is doing it https://github.com/fabi1cazenave/webL10n It claims to be cross browsers but they have a modern API which is firefox only. I'm not sure what that exactly mean, but a basic API is probably better than having to write our own thing. They use ini files, but there are tools to convert to and from po files. http://docs.translatehouse.org/projects/translate-toolkit/en/latest/commands/prop2po.html?id=toolkit/prop2po -- Daniel Narvaez -- Daniel Narvaez -- Daniel Narvaez -- Daniel Narvaez -- Daniel Narvaez -- Daniel Narvaez ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Web activities and i10n
CC'ing CJL On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure where to put properties files (both reference and translated). Perhaps we could just follow mozilla and have them in the locales/ directory. It's a bit too similar to locale, which we are using to generate translations for native activities but it shouldn't be too confusing since for web activities that directory shouldn't exist. On 4 June 2013 00:21, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: We could have activity authors provide the reference properties files in the locale directory. Bundle builder would generate the pot file from those using prop2po -P When building the xo bundle, it would then generate translated properties files using po2prop -t It seems like it should work and no real code to write other than the build bits :) On 4 June 2013 00:05, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Well, Jed apparently requires converting po to json too, so we won't save on the build bits. It probably doesn't solve the problem of extracting translatable strings either. On 4 June 2013 00:00, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: An alternative could be to combine webL10N and Jed http://slexaxton.github.io/Jed/ Either adapt webL10N to use Jed or add the dom bits of webL10N to Jed. The webL10N code is pretty simple, so it might easier then figuring out how to setup the prop2po build bits. On 3 June 2013 23:20, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: I had a look at the code and I don't see anything firefox specific, I suspect the full API will work on latest webkit (they try to support really old browsers and that's probably where they only support a basic API). The thing I'm not convinced about is using .properties files. But unless we can find a library which uses gettext and support translating html... perhaps we can just use prop2po. On 3 June 2013 22:56, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, we didn't really think about how to support translations of the web activities. This is how mozilla is doing it https://github.com/fabi1cazenave/webL10n It claims to be cross browsers but they have a modern API which is firefox only. I'm not sure what that exactly mean, but a basic API is probably better than having to write our own thing. They use ini files, but there are tools to convert to and from po files. http://docs.translatehouse.org/projects/translate-toolkit/en/latest/commands/prop2po.html?id=toolkit/prop2po -- Daniel Narvaez -- Daniel Narvaez -- Daniel Narvaez -- Daniel Narvaez -- Daniel Narvaez -- Daniel Narvaez ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
