Re: [sugar] eBook Reader user interface

2007-06-06 Thread Samuel Klein
Push + directional key makes a lot of sense to me. Adding memory of the rotation direction used the last time the machine was in a given ebook/non-ebook state, as has been suggested before, would help avoi dextra presses as well. SJ On 6/6/07, Zvi Devir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Dan

Re: [sugar] A Launcher Activity

2007-08-13 Thread Samuel Klein
Aggregating modules and activities outside of the home view is generally important; we should do this cleanly in terms of journalling, allowing anyone to define a cluster of related activities. Have you thought about packageing the Activity Center as its own standalone activity that loads

Re: [sugar] tasks for new hackers

2007-08-20 Thread Samuel Klein
To Marco's note, there is bug 2448 : changing evince so it does proper mimetype checking and can display more than just pdf. SJ On 8/16/07, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of these features requires evince changes. At some point we need to redo the current evince hack

Re: [sugar] Sharing data between activities.

2007-08-23 Thread Samuel Klein
On 8/23/07, Ivan Krstić [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 23, 2007, at 10:57 PM, Carlos Neves wrote: Wait, does this mean I can't load an object from the datastore programaticaly ? Yes. There goes the neighborhood! So all my assumptions on using the datastore to retrieve stuff based on

Re: [sugar] Sharing data between activities.

2007-08-23 Thread Samuel Klein
On 8/23/07, Ivan Krstić [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 23, 2007, at 10:45 PM, Carlos Neves wrote: What about if the activity, on first start, would feed the images to the datastore (the ones not already there) and then delete them from the activity installation folder? This would solve

[sugar] Privately-owned data on XOs?

2007-08-23 Thread Samuel Klein
From the ongoing discussion on sharing data across activities: | Why not make this the default state of sharable files that ship with | an activity, and encourage activities to explicitly store sharable | files in an appropriate directory? I'm not clear on why we want to | make it difficult for

Re: [sugar] Privately-owned data on XOs?

2007-08-24 Thread Samuel Klein
On 8/24/07, Ivan Krstić [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 24, 2007, at 1:06 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: Many parts of the system become simpler when anyone can read anything by default. Yeah, no. I could be convinced about application/resource files, but user documents are not going

Re: [sugar] Privately-owned data on XOs?

2007-08-24 Thread Samuel Klein
as collaboration begins). If you want to do something different and private,, it should involve a conscious step. SJ On 8/24/07, Ivan Krstić [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 24, 2007, at 3:12 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: Having user documents that are innately private runs counter to the principles

Re: [sugar] Privately-owned data on XOs?

2007-08-24 Thread Samuel Klein
On 8/24/07, Eben Eliason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understood this problem to be solved already. We have the notion of sharing, and more specifically of scoping (with groups). If I write a story by myself, then it's private unless I explicitly say otherwise. If I draw a painting in an

Re: [sugar] All GCompris activities available

2007-09-23 Thread Samuel Klein
On 9/23/07, Bruno Coudoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The process to build an activity is documented there: http://gcompris.net/wiki/index.php/Todo_for_OLPC This is particularly nice. I see the line for an icon for each activity. When you say 'add support for Sugar's Jounal' does this include

[sugar] Manual/howto discussions tomorrow (Sat the 2th)

2007-10-26 Thread Samuel Klein
We are reviewing the various manuals and how-tos about using the XO and its interfaces tomorrow from 11:00 to 17:00 EST, in the Cambridge office for the hardy souls who are here or have trekked out, and in #olpc-content on freenode, for people online. If you have any documentation,

Re: [sugar] SAGE on XO?

2007-12-08 Thread Samuel Klein
It would certainly be nice to have SAGE apps on the laptop this has come up before, and more interest would be welcome. SJ On Dec 8, 2007 3:10 PM, Sameer Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just saw this on Slashdot. Sage uses Python and could be a good candidate for the XO some day. I am

Re: [sugar] Community Support website for users

2007-12-27 Thread Samuel Klein
That's funny. support.laptop.org resolves for me just fine.(it's pointing to wiki.laptop.org/go/Support ) SJ On Dec 27, 2007 10:37 AM, Gerard J. Cerchio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Burns wrote: feel free to use the forum forum, web chat or the email list as a resource: [EMAIL

Re: [sugar] An Update about Speech Synthesis for Sugar

2008-02-19 Thread Samuel Klein
I'd like to see an eSpeak literacy project written up -- Once we have a play button, with text highlighting, we have most of the pieces to make a great read + speak platform that can load in texts and highlight words/sentences as they are being read. Ping had a nice mental model for this a while

Re: [sugar] An Update about Speech Synthesis

2008-02-19 Thread Samuel Klein
Hemant and James, Can you write something about this at a [[spoken texts]] page on the wiki ('hear and read'? some other more creative name... )? The Google Literacy Project is highlighting a number of literacy efforts for the upcoming World Book Day, and your work would be fine suggestions for

Re: [sugar] New multilingual dictionary activity

2008-03-11 Thread Samuel Klein
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Ivan Krstić [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where's the issue? You make the existing corpus a constant database, and provide user modifications and additions as a tiny, human-readable overlay file that's consulted first on lookups. That works for a small group

Re: [sugar] New multilingual dictionary activity

2008-03-11 Thread Samuel Klein
2008/3/11 Ivan Krstić [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Mar 12, 2008, at 12:21 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: That works for a small group tweaking a large database. How is that not appropriate for each user's personal dictionary? Having separate activities for maintaining personal and highly-collaborative

[sugar] Summer of Code update, meeting tomorrow 2100 UTC

2008-03-21 Thread Samuel Klein
Dear all, We are participating in Google Summer of Code again this year, and now accepting applications from mentors. We are holding the first of a series of quick discussions about SoC tomorrow (saturday) at 2100 UTC / 1700 EST in #olpc. Please join us to share advice to share from SoC's past,

[sugar] Announcement : New mailing list for Summer of Code [OLPC GSoC]

2008-03-22 Thread Samuel Klein
Hello, We have a new mailing list set up for summer of code participants. Please join if you are interested in applying to be a mentor, contributing or reviewing project ideas, applying as a student, or otherwise contributing to the process. http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/gsoc Mentor

Re: [sugar] [OLPC-GSoC] GSOC mentors

2008-03-24 Thread Samuel Klein
Please do crosspost across the devel and sugar lists as well as the gsoc list. Just be sure to copy this list, so that newbies who don't have time to make their way through all posts on devel or sugar can get information they need this week, which is a bit stressful for applicants. Tomeu, if you

Re: [sugar] OPLC Mutliverse Development

2008-04-02 Thread Samuel Klein
Some old work by adamascj: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPCities SJ On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was some Brazilian work on this a while back... SJ On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Chris Bresee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, I am

Re: [sugar] [Testing] New OLPC Process and Rules for Builing Activities, Releases, and Firmware Builds

2008-04-03 Thread Samuel Klein
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 1:39 AM, Charles Merriam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: April Fool's was a good way to present what does eventually need to be done, and what is done in some other open source projects. It's a good way of doing it, and would require some work. I would set up a set of stages

Re: [sugar] [Testing] New OLPC Process and Rules for Builing Activities, Releases, and Firmware Builds

2008-04-04 Thread Samuel Klein
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 2:04 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/4/4 Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED]: present it yourself via the dialin number, that would be ideal; otherwise someone else will present for you (though perhaps not as passionately) and You haven't been sitting

Re: [sugar] This project is rolling, so should OLPC

2008-04-23 Thread Samuel Klein
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Bryan Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our pilots at Bishwamitra and Bashuki schools start this Friday and I couldn't be more excited. Fantastic. Please keep up a steady photo stream! The rest of your email is perfectly put. --SJ I find this discussion

Re: [sugar] Mail backlog; list moderators needed

2008-05-08 Thread Samuel Klein
-topic arguments... but such moderation should be with a light hand. SJ On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Bernie Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Samuel Klein wrote: I just forwarded a bunch of mail from non-subscribers from the past two weeks. I am looking for 1-2 people to help moderate

Re: [sugar] [Olpc-open] jumpy cursor problem and sugar issue

2008-05-08 Thread Samuel Klein
Advice from the field : try dusting a jumpy touchpad with chalkdust. --SJ, who is looking for a cite... On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 7:50 AM, Bryan Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Day 3 of the pilots at Bishwamitra and Bashuki and couple of issues have come up 1. We are having a lot of trouble

[sugar] Fwd: Contact // video tool

2008-07-11 Thread Samuel Klein
[copying the sugar list...] Trying to bring together various video projects in the air (I bet there are more that I've left out): Ben, what's the latest status on Colingo? I'd like to get a set of your vids into the 'recommended' list for 8.2, our next update at the end of August. How to

Re: [sugar] Activity versioning schema

2008-07-16 Thread Samuel Klein
Basically, there are two separate problems here, and we should not be solving them together. One is that the latest release may not be the greatest - because of bugfix releases. I agree with Eben's proposal of minor version numbers as a (totally optional) solution; as long as the

Re: [sugar] Activity versioning schema

2008-07-16 Thread Samuel Klein
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Version (activity_version) is just some sortable entity to be agreed In other words, let us do the same thing that rpm and dpkg do. It gives

[sugar] Programming environments on the XO

2008-07-16 Thread Samuel Klein
There has been talk about expanding Pippy to support a variety of programming languages, perhaps as plugins; to add syntax highlighting; and general interest in seeing Develop proceed. Syntax highlighting in Write has been brought up as well. C and Javascript environments have been specifically

[sugar] Fwd: Art In All of Us game, identifying childrens' country of origin

2008-07-31 Thread Samuel Klein
30, 2008 at 11:28 PM Subject: RE: Art In All of Us -- OLPC To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Seth Woodworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi ! I am definitely open to more images. We have a 160,000+ number of images from 175+ countries. We have infinite options to have the kids

[sugar] two mailing list moderators wanted

2008-08-18 Thread Samuel Klein
Dear sugar library list readers, We are looking for a list moderator for each of these lists. Moderators primarily review posts from people who haven't yet joined the list, to filter out spam; and, socially, help to keep any latent flamewars in check. If you are interested, please reply

Re: [sugar] Developing activities.

2008-09-02 Thread Samuel Klein
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 12:05 PM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: 1. Create [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. We have discussed this a few time over the last few months. Now that we are getting distro (other the OLPC) related comments the time seems right 2. Create [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [sugar] [Wikireader] english wikireaders and 0.7

2008-09-07 Thread Samuel Klein
Where is the code for this? Lede-detection code is a priority for me, and I'd like to work on it. It should be easy to sense the start of the first H2 and drop the rest of the article. Is there some way to estimate the size impact on the whole of adding one template (given how often it is

Re: [sugar] [Wikireader] english wikireaders and 0.7

2008-09-07 Thread Samuel Klein
% chance of same when looking at the last trusted editor's contribs) making it helpful to have specific revisionids for articles in a snapshot. On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where is the code for this? Lede-detection code is a priority for me, and I'd

Re: [sugar] G1G1v2 Activities

2008-09-19 Thread Samuel Klein
I wouldn't include Bridge yet. It's great, but not complete. I would include: WikiBrowse PlayGo Frotz Clock GCompris Chess GCompris Sudoku XaoS Moon StarChart ePals On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 5:53 PM, Seth Woodworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I vote very strongly for Ruler. It's less than 20kb

Re: [sugar] Another pass through some basic Activity test results

2008-09-25 Thread Samuel Klein
Testing gg-763-1 earlier today, running a number of activities for an hour. I later found that I could not restart or reboot via sugar; it would let me select the option from the right menu, but then a gray-circle process appeared in the top frame and nothing would happen. If I quit that process

Re: [sugar] notes from the field - Mongolia

2008-10-06 Thread Samuel Klein
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 11:20:04AM -0400, elana langer wrote: This is not a unique experience. This is a culture that lives close to the land. Action- reaction. No one is used to waiting for an computer to load or a bagel

Re: [sugar] Give a Laptop, Change the World : G1G1 2008

2008-10-08 Thread Samuel Klein
: is there anything like a poster/flyer in high resolution PDF? p. Samuel Klein wrote: This year's G1G1 program will start November 17 in the US. Please help us spread the word. Below is a short email blurb about this year's program ( from [[G1G1 2008/text]] ). We are coordinating some community

[sugar] Annotation (was Re: Viewing PDFs from Browse)

2008-10-13 Thread Samuel Klein
Annotation is different from editing and original creation. A user can in fact annotate a file or document they do not have locally. I find that use case more likely than the alternative; I have never succeeded in pushing a book report upstream into a publisher's next edition. Annotation,

Re: [sugar] 0.84/9.1 planning.

2008-10-13 Thread Samuel Klein
Tomeu: Scott: I think more like: Nov 17-20: talks and hacking Nov 21: priorities meeting, wrapup. I'm not the planning committee, but this would be what I'd like to see. Works for me. Should we be concerned that talk (or aguing) might expand so much that there's little time to take

Re: [sugar] Annotation (was Re: Viewing PDFs from Browse)

2008-10-13 Thread Samuel Klein
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only when (some or all of) Object-2 gets folded in to Object-1 does attribution become important: [Object-1 paragraph3 as edited by Jim Jones; Object-1 paragraph22 as added (originated by) Sam Smith]. But when such

Re: [sugar] 0.84/9.1 planning.

2008-10-14 Thread Samuel Klein
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Ed McNierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would also like to stop calling this 9.1 planning. We need to plan Sounds like it is time for a naming contest for this [repeating] event. Some that have been suggested / implied: OLPCSW [08.11.1] OLPC Miniconference

Re: [sugar] 0.84/9.1 planning.

2008-10-14 Thread Samuel Klein
Does it make sense to have an afternoon or a full day about long-term plans and their implications for immediate priorities and tests? Try to capture topics that could be specific agenda items with their own session or conversation -- by creating a separate thread about it on the list, a separate

Re: [sugar] [RELEASE] Browse 100

2008-10-29 Thread Samuel Klein
If all package updates were this awesome, perhaps everyone would read [EMAIL PROTECTED] also: what is the verdict on a separate [EMAIL PROTECTED] it seems to be in ocasional use. sj On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Simon Schampijer [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Dear Browse, happy birthday! Marco

Re: [sugar] 9.1 Proposal: Report cards on XO

2008-10-31 Thread Samuel Klein
We should make sure that this works in the case of the 'xs' machine being a disk attached to a teacher's xo, including the more limited times of availability and bandwidth implied. On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Tony Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: All of this is already implemented in

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] November conference (meeting notes)

2008-11-04 Thread Samuel Klein
I agree with David that this is a good logical order. Mon and Tue aren't good days for some OLPC folks, but they might make good hackfest days. It would be great to have space we could use for the whole week; OLPC will be short of conference rooms. Walter, let me know if I can help with space

Re: [sugar] November conference (meeting notes)

2008-11-04 Thread Samuel Klein
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we met to discuss schedule and scope of the meeting today. I was thinking of something along the lines of regular afternoon presentations (including talk proposals that should really come up before Jan) and a longer

Re: [sugar] November conference (meeting notes)

2008-11-05 Thread Samuel Klein
Nice. A good point about Thanksgiving week -- the converse is that the week before is often midterms for students. But there are a number of local activity developers (or would-be devs who haven't finished their first!) that would be excited to join. SJ On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 4:16 AM, Tomeu

[sugar] ShoeBot (a free software DrawBot implementation) is out! Time to Sugarize some Ruby apps?

2008-11-09 Thread Samuel Klein
Shoebot, a free-software version of the awesome Mac program DrawBot (which relies heavily Cocoa), is finished. Thanks to David Crossland who tipped me off to this. http://www.tinkerhouse.net/shoebot/ http://tinkerhouse.net/shoebot/Docs/Screenshots From its getting started page:

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19

2008-11-12 Thread Samuel Klein
I hope there are gobby sessions for all events, and that they are more brainstorming and writing than presentation and recording video. SJ On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:07 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19

2008-11-12 Thread Samuel Klein
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:39 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:03 AM, Samuel Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope there are gobby sessions for all events, and that they are more brainstorming and writing than presentation and recording video

Re: [sugar] [OLPC library] Looking for a room. Was Re: revision to the Manual

2008-11-18 Thread Samuel Klein
we probably do -- if our 2nd of 2 houseguests is gone by then! SJ On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 2:18 PM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have room for Adam for the weekend. david On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Adam Floss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have a spare couch?