I appologize to the group.
I was the first to mention trees. The other topic ended up as a debate over
definitions. Glass does what it does no matter what it is called. I talked
about trees because that is another debate that ends over definitions. My
opinion of the definition of sound is as follo
Karon
Where do I find Saras article?
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 3:22 AM, Willy Leenders
wrote:
> Karon,
>
> More on timekeeping and history you can read on my website concerning the the
> oldest surviving sundial, found in Egypt around 1500 BC
> See http://www.wijzerweb.be/egypteengels.html
>
> Wil
Dear subscribers of the sundial mailing list!
Currently we're faced with some heated discussions only peripherically
connected with the topic sundials with its also interdisciplinary
facets. Before people now tend to unsubscribe from the list, I'm asking
everyone to continue with comments to messa
On 15/08/2011 3:52 PM, karon wrote:
the smaller [sundials] are, by definition,
the less precise they can be.
This statement got me wondering how small can a sundial be, before
hitting the limits of our visual acuity. Here's my thinking:
Shadow blur imposes a limit of about 2 minutes of tim
You are right, I had my beginnings and endings of Sandringham time mixed up.
Thanks!
And you are also right, Sundials DO have time problems. They begin with the
fact that they are built by people and the smaller they are, by definition,
the less precise they can be. The one in Jaipur (I believe)
; But, for the ordinary sailor, their lives were ordered by the ship?s
bells
> > which were often determined by sand timers. What other kinds of timing
> > devices does anyone know of used at sea before the era of modern clocks?
> >
> > Karon Adams
> > Accredited Jewelry Professional (GIA)
>
Bill O'Neill wrote:
>
> Sundials however will never have time problems because they indicate the
> position of the earth and sun. As such they do not measure time. A clock
> draws a conclusion but a clock attempts to follow what is displayed by the
> sundial. The sundial follows the earth and sun.
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Karon,
More on timekeeping and history you can read on my website concerning the the
oldest surviving sundial, found in Egypt around 1500 BC
See http://www.wijzerweb.be/egypteengels.html
Willy Leenders
Hasselt in Flanders (Belgium)
Visit my website about the sundials in the province of Limburg
And, at the very least, it is polite. But, in some cases, it also has to do
with contractual obligations with publishers.
Also, remember that copying someone's design without permission is copyright
infringement. We see this a LOT in jewelry design. Even if someone publishes
a How To on a design,
I knew that was how they navigated and I knew it was possible to tell time
using those sightings for sundials. I was not sure how common it was or how
long seagoing vessels used sundials. I know by the time of the Napoleonic Wars
they were using hourglasses to tell time. And, of course, watches
You are so right. I bought a book with various diagrams on CD. The local
print shop told me they cannot print a copy of the diagrams from the CD
(even for my own personal use only) without permission from the author.
So, even if you don't pass around the copies, it is still illegal to make
ev
Time at sea was found astronomically by using a quadrant, nocturnal, or sundial
such as a universal ring dial.
Sara
P.S. Thanks for your praise of my article.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 15, 2011, at 9:23 AM, "karon"
mailto:ka...@karonadams.com>> wrote:
For a lot of years, time was measured on
But, unequal segments of the day makes sense. Life then was based on work and
worship. Only astronomers or sailors would care about degrees of arc. People
who lived on the land would care about sunrise and sunset and the various
activities that happen in between. So it makes sense that the div
Thanks Rob, It is a much better version and there are no concerns as the
copyright is yours.
I made a copy available within the generally acceptable terms of personal
use for educational purposes. This applies for single copies by individuals.
A few of my friends on the SML made single persona
On 15/08/2011 15:14, karon wrote:
Please. I am simply asking the reasoning behind the concept. I don't get
what the reasoning is here. And am asking the question. I am not putting
words in his mouth, I am asking a question.
As for copyright infringement, yeah, it is. By definition, if you make
c
Dear Aleks,
Back when I knew even less about time measurement than I do now I visited
Mount Athos and recall that a clock I saw there was considerably 'off' from
what my watch showed. I asked a monk about it and he told me they used
Byzantine hours, but I was with a group and there was no time to a
ok. If anything, it is a refuge from the
> > mindless twaddle one might find there.
> >
> > I have no intention of leaving this group because I have already
(looking
> > on the bright side) learned a thing or two.
> >
> > But, from the viewpoint of a new member, it h
The official author's copy of our preprint is available from:
http://www.agi.com/downloads/media-center/in-the-news/Future-Of-Time-American-Scientist-July-Aug-2011.pdf
Be our guest (for personal use).
I highly recommend the GPS World article that Richard referenced. In fact, I
wish th
n member, despite the rather
clear
> > statement we are sent when one joins, do not understand its purpose.
> >
> > This is not Twitter or Facebook. If anything, it is a refuge from the
> > mindless twaddle one might find there.
> >
> > I have no intention o
Anne, and others, if I decide in the future to sell sundials, I probably
won't do it on a business scale but to cover materials costs. I am the kind
of person who enjoys learning new skills. The majority of the things that
interest me are things our grandparents, specifically our grandmothers, had
W.
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been a bit of a
disappointment.
Andrew Theokas, Ph.D., FRAS
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disappointment.
Andrew Theokas, Ph.D., FRAS
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"Geoffrey Thurston" wrote:
> I have been an avid reader of and an occasional contributor to this list for
> many years but I am concerned about its present state of health. It has
> previously been customary for contributors to
For a lot of years, time was measured on board ship with a series of sand
timers. I hesitate to call them hourglasses because they were calibrated to
so many different segments of time. Theoretically, one CAN use a sundial on
board a ship. Navigation allows you to determine where you are NOW and c
I just read Sara's excellent article on sundials and their history and their
place in history. VERY nice. I would love to see some similar information
on the development of sundials and their usage and how time came to rule
other cultures. Of course, in western culture, a lot of it had to do with
On 15/08/2011 11:38, karon wrote:
Thanks for the translation! I was very interested in the topic and will be
interested in reading the replies.
But, seriously, if you think a little fun we had last week was equivalent to
pornography, I really think you were missing a LOT in puberty. And if yo
OK, everyone understands that there is NO FUN allowed on the sundial group.
It has been pointed out by people who don't usually participate but expect a
certain level of intelligence on this group (possibly the reason they don't
often participate)
The declaration that fun was banned was made a
Yeah, get back to work instead of expressing your personal opinions! People
who depend on your knowledge group are waiting.
Karon Adams
Accredited Jewelry Professional (GIA)
You can send a free Rosary to a soldier!
www.facebook.com/MilitaryRosary
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From: Richa
Thanks for the translation! I was very interested in the topic and will be
interested in reading the replies.
But, seriously, if you think a little fun we had last week was equivalent to
pornography, I really think you were missing a LOT in puberty. And if you want
to toss out a challenge like
Point of order. Scanning a published, copyrighted article and offering it to
anyone on the net is a copyright infringement.
Other than that, my question is, are you advocating 360 different time zones
in the world? if we plan to live in a modern world that interacts with
others in the world, espe
Greetings all:
I agree with Geoff, and now others.
May I bring the perspective of a very new member to this group?
Although I have been studying sundial design for many years now, I only
recently joined.
Sundials are not exactly the main topic at dinner parties and it was a pleasure
to find
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