Point of order. Scanning a published, copyrighted article and offering it to anyone on the net is a copyright infringement.
Other than that, my question is, are you advocating 360 different time zones in the world? if we plan to live in a modern world that interacts with others in the world, especially at a distance, we must have standardized times. Unless we are planning to return to agrarian societies without interaction to the next town over, we cannot live our lives on solar time, alone. There must be standardized time. Try making an appointment with your doc on solar time. I understand the idea behind wanting to live a simpler life and return to the natural world. but, frankly, the natural world was a pretty bleak place in many ways. And a very uneventful one. What, really, is the purpose for wanting the change? Karon Adams Accredited Jewelry Professional (GIA) You can send a free Rosary to a soldier! www.facebook.com/MilitaryRosary www.YellowRibbonRosaries.com > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Roger Bailey > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 1:05 AM > To: Rob Seaman; [email protected] > Subject: Time's Arrow > > Time is an arrow with no past, propelled by the present impulse into the > future. We cannot change the past but we can affect the future based on how > we project our ideas. > > The current discussion on the future of UTC and the leap second is a case > in point. We know we are all getting older and slowing down. So is the earth > in its orbits and rotations, now measurably slower. The earths rotation is > slower due to tidal friction. Time, told by sundials, defined by the timed > position of the sun in our sky is slowing down. With modern Cesium atomic > clocks we know precisely how quickly we are slowing down as we and our > planet age. You all received the notice for a meeting on the problem with > time as we experience it and time as precisely measured for so many things > like astronomy, computers, GPS and geo-location, that depend an accurate > time base, not solar time. Standard time* came in due to the railroads. Are > we being railroaded again? Daylight sayings time was introduced as a wartime > expedient like income tax. Neither were cancelled as a peace dividend. > > Rob Seaman, one of the co-chairmen for this conference on "Decoupling Civil > Timekeeping from Earth Rotation", posted a note to the SML 24 July. This > conference is to address the question remains how do we reconcile atomic > with solar, orbital and sidereal time. Check this link. > http://futureofutc.org . Rob recently coauthored an interesting article > outlining the problem in the American Scientist July Aug edition. The > abstract is here. > http://www.americanscientist.org/issues/feature/2011/4/the-future-of-time-ut c- > and-the-leap-second > This is an excellent article. Pick it up if you can at your local magazine > rack. Otherwise I have scanned it to pdf and posted it here for a few > friends on the SML. http://www3.telus.net/public/rtbailey/SML/TimeBW.PDF > > Regards, > > Roger Bailey > Walking Shadow Designs > N 48.6 W 123.4 > > "Life's but a Walking Shadow..." > > > > *Daylight sayings time was introduced as a wartime expedient like income > tax. Neither were cancelled as a peace dividend. > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Rob Seaman" <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 6:26 PM > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Future of UTC / leap second > > > Hello, > > > > I'd like to thank Wolfgang Dick for circulating the announcement a few > > weeks ago of our meeting, Decoupling Civil Timekeeping from Earth > > Rotation. While primarily a meeting on the implications of redefining UTC > > for astronomical and astronautical applications, the organizers would very > > much welcome submissions discussing the impact on sundials and related > > technologies and their usage and stakeholders: > > > > http://futureofutc.org > > > > I'd also like to thank Tony Finch for circulating the link to our > > preprint, and have a few comments to add to what he wrote at the time: > > > >> See also this preprint from American Scientist. > > > > The official, more elegantly formatted, preprint is available from: > > > > http://www.agi.com/downloads/media-center/in-the-news/Future-Of-Time- > American-Scientist-July-Aug-2011.pdf > > > >> Note that the people involved in both the article and the colloquium are > >> in favour of keeping leapseconds. > > > > Rather I'd say we are all in favor of preserving Coordinated Universal > > Time as a representation of the actual Universal Time. Leap seconds are a > > means to an end. We're willing to discuss other possible means, as has > > been proven many times (over more than a decade :-) on the leap seconds > > mailing list: > > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/leapsecs > > > >> The ITU-R has also issued another questionnaire to its member states on > >> this issue. > > > > The Earth Orientation Center of the IERS has its own very brief > > questionnaire: > > > > http://hpiers.obspm.fr/eop-pc/questionnaire/questionnaire.html > > > > Humans, not just "member states" are encouraged to take a few moments and > > fill it out. Your community will be affected - your community should have > > a voice. > > > >> It has remained controversial at every level as it has progressed through > >> the ITU's bureaucracy. The final stage will be a vote at the > >> radiocommunication assembly next year. > > > > Controversial indeed, however, the scope of our upcoming meeting (5-6 Oct > > 2011, Exton, PA USA) is to discuss the impacts and contingent > > reengineering if the ITU does vote to redefine UTC. It should make for a > > very engaging agenda. Of interest to the sundial community there will be > > a presentation on the vision and architecture (eg, solar synchronizer and > > equation of time cam) of the 10,000 year clock (http://longnow.org/clock/) > > by one of their project engineers. We are also organizing a visit and > > talk at the analemmatic sundial at Longwood Gardens (http://bit.ly/omBqrE) > > following the meeting. Ken Seidelmann provided its accurate calibration; > > the ITU's redefinition of Coordinated Universal Time would render > > calibration rather a moot issue for this and all sundials. > > > > Finally, for those in Europe and the UK, the British Royal Society is also > > holding a meeting on the redefinition of UTC on 3-4 November 2011: > > > > http://royalsociety.org/events/UTC-for-21st-century/ > > > > Contact the organizers regarding their meeting's scope and agenda (and > > what they favor, for that matter). > > > > Thank you! > > > > Rob Seaman > > National Optical Astronomy Observatory > > Tucson, AZ > > --------------------------------------------------- > > https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial > > > --------------------------------------------------- > https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial --------------------------------------------------- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
