dear Roger
I'm not sure to understand your outburst, in these days there was some messages
about the matter, so reading your email I tried to understand if I wrote
something improprer or aggressive giving info about the Camino and the Atlas.
If I'm involved in your email, you write about Sundial Atlas as a reason of
your irritation, I'm sorry, I wrote the code of this site to give an instrument
to all the diallists and not to bother them, and usually I write about the site
only to give info.
May be italians are emotional, sometime I may be agree with you, but your email
seems to be the same. Please, can you help me to understand if something is
wrong in my messages about the Camino and Sundial Atlas, or I don't understand
the target of your irritation ?
ciao Fabio Savian
fabio.sav...@nonvedolora.it
Milano, Italy
Inviato da tablet
Messaggio originale
Da: Roger Bailey rtbai...@telus.net
Data: 22/04/2013 05:33 (GMT+01:00)
A: f...@solariameridiane.it,Fabio Savian fabio.sav...@nonvedolora.it
Oggetto: Re: Sundials along the Camino de Santiago de Compostela
Please, enough of this public scourging. I innocently offered some pictures to
someone interested in walking the Camino and was criticized as I provided no
location data. OK. I then provided location data in detailed waymarks and was
publically criticized again for not posting the information on the sundial
atlas. The Camino de Santiago path is well known for over 800 years. Read my
previous notes. I referenced the Camino tour on the sundial atlas even though
the tour link had no pictures of sundials, just an attractive couple of hikers
and lots of scallop shell waymarks. I said I would add those sundials not
listed to the sundial atlas. Now I am not so sure.
The information I had at hand and provided predated the sundial atlas. I have
documented about 500 sundials around the world with descriptions, photos and
location data on various web resources. Do I have to now convert all these
entries to the NASS Registry, BSS sundial tours or waymarking to the sundial
atlas or any other new wiki web service? Excuse me, I have many better things
to do.
I subscribed to the Italian sundial mailing list for a while some time ago. I
don't speak Italian but I soon recognized the different emotional level in the
Italian postings. Northerners like me are less emotive in communications. This
personal note may not translate into Italian very well but I choose not to be
more direct, using words more universally understood.
Regards, Roger Bailey
From: f...@solariameridiane.it
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 2:17 AM
To: Sundial sundiallist
Subject: Re: Sundials along the Camino de Santiago de Compostela
The site waymarking does not help much to trace a path, why not collaborate
with Savian the definition of the Camino de Santiago?
Just load the cards that you know not to be on the Sundial Atlas and ask Fabio
Savian to help in the implementation of the path.
Fabio Garnero
Il giorno 21/apr/13, alle ore 05:41, Roger Bailey ha scritto:
Hello Denis, Fabio and all,
Let me supplement the picture link for sundials on the Camino with location
data and descriptions. Most of the sundials shown I waymarked in 2010 with
pictures, locations and descriptions. Click on the waymark hypertext to bring
up the link. For those on text only, go to www.waymarking.com and search on the
waymark code, WM.
Leon Cathedral, WM8929, 42°35.951, 5°34.000
Astorga Cathedral, WM8944, 42°27.452, 6°3.420
Cruz de Fierro, WM8974, 42°29.347, 6°21.681
Boente Church, WM8AZJ, 42°54.972, 6°4.668
San Francisco Villafranca, WM8AZF, 42°36.566, 6°48.568
Caixa Galacia, WM8AZD, 42°36.452, 6°48.511
The dials in Santiago in the photo link, I have not yet waymarked or posted on
the sundial atlas . There are three sundials visible in the courtyard of the
University Library, Biblioteca de Santiago de Compostela, near the cathedral at
42°52.763, 8°32.723. There are also three on the stone block overshadowed by
the patio restaurant of the Parador de Santiago, Hostal doe Reis Catolicos,
42°52.859, 8°32.782. Again this is near the cathedral, on the other side of the
square. On Google Earth you can see the tent of the patio restaurant crowding
the stone block with the old sundials.
Most of these are in the sundial atlas Camino Tour. Fabio has a few I do not. I
have a few he missed. There are opportunities to find more to fill out this
aspect of the Camino de Santiago, the ancient pilgrimage walk, the Way of St
James.
Enjoy the journey,
Roger Bailey
From: Dennis Jordan
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:42 PM
To: sundial@uni-koeln.de
Subject: Sundials along the Camino de Santiago de Compostela
I have followed this list serve for some time, although I have not been an
active participant. I have very much appreciated the passionate discussions.
Does anyone know of a resource way marking sundials close by or on the Camino
de Santiago de
