Re: Tony Moss - hacked

2013-09-28 Thread Roger Bailey
Hi Tony,

James Fallows wrote an excellent article on his experience when his wife's 
gmail was hacked. Here is a link. 
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/11/hacked/308673/  Even with 
his top level connections with Google and the tech community, the recovery was 
difficult. Google changed some of their practices due to this exposure but the 
recovery process is still difficult.

Good Luck, Roger Bailey


From: Tony Moss 
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 10:43 AM
To: sundial@uni-koeln.de 
Subject: Re: Tony Moss - hacked


Hi all,
 A thousand apologies to anyone who has had trouble with this nasty 
event.  My email password is now reset and more secure. At least Gmail support 
could tell me how to restore my vanished email address list successfully  Phew! 
 

Whoever did this (I think) also wiped all my 'Sent Mail' and 'in Box' ith some 
important files so I'm hoping that Gmail have a means of restoring them too, 
although any suggestions are very welcome.

Thanks to David Brown for making this announcement.

Best,

Tony M.







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To: David da...@davidbrownsundials.com
CC: sundial@uni-koeln.de
Sent: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 18:18
Subject: Re: Tony Moss - hacked


On 27/09/2013 11:50, David wrote: 
 Dear All, 
 Please note that Tony Moss has had his computer hacked and cannot  
 communicate for the time being. He has asked me to let the sundial  list 
 know of his predicament. 
 David Brown 
 Somerton, Somerset, UK 
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That's what you get for using something like Gmail :-) 
 
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Re: Tony Moss - hacked

2013-09-28 Thread rmallett

  
  
On 28/09/2013 18:03, Roger Bailey
  wrote:


  
  
  Hi Tony,
  
  James Fallows wrote an excellent
  article on his experience when his wife's gmail was hacked.
  Here is a link. http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/11/hacked/308673/Even
  with his top level connections with Google and the tech
  community, the recovery was difficult. Google changed some of
  their practices due to this exposure but the recovery process
  is still difficult.
  
  Good Luck, Roger Bailey
  


  


Looks like the man's wife was not using an email client on her PC,
but was (and, for many years, had been) reading (and replying to)
emails directly on the Google servers, which is an obvious no-no.
Much better to use an email client like Mozilla Thunderbird, and use
a backup program like Mozbackup. 

Of course, as the husband explains, if your ISP (and / or the
provider of your email account) is a multi-million customer company,
then (a) the risk is greater, and (b) the degree of support is less
when something does go wrong.

If this is what it was like in 2011, you can bet that it will be
worse (rather than better) in 2013-14.

I don't know who James Fallows is (or was) as I only read the first
page (which seemed to give the gist of what happened) but obviously
his wife enjoyed no special privileges from a largely automated
system, as one would expect.

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Eaton Bray, Dunstable
South Beds. UK
  

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Re: Tony Moss - hacked

2013-09-28 Thread Dave Bell
The real take-away lesson in that story is DON'T TRUST THE CLOUD

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 28, 2013, at 11:17 AM, rmallett postmas...@rmallett.plus.com wrote:

 On 28/09/2013 18:03, Roger Bailey wrote:
 Hi Tony,
  
 James Fallows wrote an excellent article on his experience when his wife's 
 gmail was hacked. Here is a link. 
 http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/11/hacked/308673/  Even 
 with his top level connections with Google and the tech community, the 
 recovery was difficult. Google changed some of their practices due to this 
 exposure but the recovery process is still difficult.
  
 Good Luck, Roger Bailey
 
 
 Looks like the man's wife was not using an email client on her PC, but was 
 (and, for many years, had been) reading (and replying to) emails directly on 
 the Google servers, which is an obvious no-no.  Much better to use an email 
 client like Mozilla Thunderbird, and use a backup program like Mozbackup.  
 
 Of course, as the husband explains, if your ISP (and / or the provider of 
 your email account) is a multi-million customer company, then (a) the risk is 
 greater, and (b) the degree of support is less when something does go 
 wrong.
 
 If this is what it was like in 2011, you can bet that it will be worse 
 (rather than better) in 2013-14.
 
 I don't know who James Fallows is (or was) as I only read the first page 
 (which seemed to give the gist of what happened) but obviously his wife 
 enjoyed no special privileges from a largely automated system, as one would 
 expect.
 
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 Richard Mallett
 Eaton Bray, Dunstable
 South Beds. UK
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