On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 11:06:34 +0800
"Casper Ti. Vector" wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 12:33:28AM +0200, Laurent Bercot wrote:
> > I agree that the name collision is confusing, and it is an
> > annoyance.
>
> Since s6-rc is still unreleased, perhaps we can still take the chance
> to rename `
On Sep 19, 2015 8:07 PM, "Casper Ti. Vector" wrote:
>
> Since s6-rc is still unreleased, perhaps we can still take the chance to
> rename `up'/`down' in oneshots to `run'/`finish', in order to let them
> look a little more unified?
>
I don't know about anyone else, but I actually like the differen
I just read your modification on the blurb page (commit e56e1294), and
found it somehow still lacking: in my experience, dependency is honoured
by OpenRC even with `rc_parallel' enabled; and more than that,
"readiness" (here defined as `exit 0' for a runscript) is also honoured:
> % head /etc/init
Since s6-rc is still unreleased, perhaps we can still take the chance to
rename `up'/`down' in oneshots to `run'/`finish', in order to let them
look a little more unified?
On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 12:33:28AM +0200, Laurent Bercot wrote:
> I agree that the name collision is confusing, and it is an
On 20/09/2015 00:23, Steve Litt wrote:
Basically, on startup, before bringing up the process supervisor, you
write "down" files to every service not containing a "nodown". Then you
erase down files one at a time.
Clarity check.
Casper, Guillermo and I were not talking about ./down files in a
On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 11:11:37 -0700
Avery Payne wrote:
> With regard to having scripted placement of down files, if it was in a
> template or compiled as such, then the entire process of writing it
> into the definition becomes trivial or moot. While there should
> always be a manual option to ov
With regard to having scripted placement of down files, if it was in a
template or compiled as such, then the entire process of writing it into
the definition becomes trivial or moot. While there should always be a
manual option to override a script, or the option to write one directly, I
think th
2015-09-19 13:23 GMT-03:00 Casper Ti. Vector:
>
> Allow me to clarify myself: what I proposed is to *also* allow oneshots
> which have a `down' file but no `up' file.
Oh, right. I read too fast and misunderstood, sorry.
G.
Allow me to clarify myself: what I proposed is to *also* allow oneshots
which have a `down' file but no `up' file. But again, the choice is not
up to me, so I stop here...
On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 01:03:32PM -0300, Guillermo wrote:
> have an explicit start(). Being forced to always do 'touch down;
2015-09-19 10:17 GMT-03:00 Casper Ti. Vector:
> On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 02:26:44PM +0200, Laurent Bercot wrote:
>>
>> So, I don't mind the asymmetry because it's a natural one given the
>> way a system works, and working around it is trivial. I only made
>> the "down" script optional because it's
On 19/09/2015 14:52, James Powell wrote:
I don't see it, rc_parallel, as entirely broken, that is if you
follow proper scripting techniques and create the proper dependency
prestarts.
Even if you do, it's not guaranteed to work as long as you don't
have a way to notify readiness. In the serial
On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 02:26:44PM +0200, Laurent Bercot wrote:
> You can't add parallel service start/stop as an afterthought. It has to
> be included in the design. OpenRC is a good serial rc system, but it's
> not a parallel rc system by any means.
Thanks for your explanation, it is very clea
I don't see it, rc_parallel, as entirely broken, that is if you follow proper
scripting techniques and create the proper dependency prestarts. However,
against the alternative of systemd, OpenRC is what sysvinit should have been to
some degree, and is a more valid and viable choice, and at least
On 19/09/2015 11:23, Casper Ti. Vector wrote:
* In `s6:doc/servicedir.html':
Fixed, thanks.
* In `s6-rc:doc/why.html':
This "blurb" page describes OpenRC as starting (and shutting down,
though not explicitly saying that) services sequentially. This is
only partially true: in Gent
Since it has been public that Laurent schedules the release of s6-rc in
September 2015, I think it will be beneficial to try to rip the related
documentation of factual errors (I keep imagining how Rachel Carson and
her friends tried to eliminate flaws in "Silent Spring"). Here are my
own findings
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