Re: [freenet-support] Way to much RAM! Build 5064

2004-01-30 Thread Phillip Hutchings
On 29/01/2004, at 10:13 PM, Maximilian Mehnert wrote:

Am Mi, den 28.01.2004 schrieb Maximilian Mehnert um 15:28:
Having 400MB of RAM used by the node's java processes seems out of 
whack.
In fact that sounds insane. Which threadFactory is your configuration
file set to use? If you set it to use the YThreadFactory, do things
improve?
Sorry. Being online for about 12 hours freenet again succeeded in
overloading an acceptable machine (1.5GHz, 512MB Ram), leaving it
doing nothing but swapping RAM.
I think it's time to take a break. Perhaps I'll check back in a year 
;-)

I'm still of the opinion that freenet will only spread if people are
able to run it on a small router or in background with no noticeable
impact on performance.
I agree here. My router is a 1.53Ghz Athlon (XP1800+) with 512MB of 
RAM. The CPU isn't taxed, but the memory is. Also, bandwidth is used 
quite readily. I have a quota, and it'd be nice to be able to give 
Freenet a maximum monthly allocation, and have it shut down after 
that's passed the limit. I have no problem donating 2-3GB/month of 
traffic, but it takes 4-5 if I don't watch it, that's with a limit of 
2kb/sec both ways.

It would be nice if anyone with a spare P266 box could fire up freenet 
and just let it sit there.

If I had a second life I would help redoing the whole thing in ocaml or
something like that. But I have the miserable feeling that studying
medicine will keep me busy for the next years. :-( Ok, no more flame
wars ;-)
If I knew the protocol, and knew enough about networking, I'd do a 
Cocoa client. I have no problems with continually changing the 
protocol, I'd just have to participate on the developer mailing list. 
Unfortunately there's no easy place to start from. I guess that's what 
you get with pre-release software.

Another good idea would be a 'freenet browser', something like Gecko or 
WebKit (for OS X) embedded in to a freenet thing, with privacy options 
auto set.

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Re: [freenet-support] Way to much RAM! Build 5064

2004-01-30 Thread David Masover
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| Another good idea would be a 'freenet browser', something like Gecko or

No, it wouldn't.  Gecko is for rendering (and I'd guess that WebKit is
also).  It takes html and renders it.  Freenet currently uses html, and
will probably continue to use it (at least for browsing).
It doesn't use http, of course, but adding a freenet://  URL style
wouldn't change things too much, since you need the key first anyway --
it's going to be a long address no matter what.  All that would do is
allow for URLs to be to somewhere other than localhost, which can
already be done (not sure if it has) by the server itself.  This is
better, because it doesn't require modifying a browser, and so far
there's only one server.
And if you wanted to do such a thing, or the privacy features
auto-set, you would do it as a browser extension -- notice when it's a
freenet url, and don't do things like caching it.  For this, you'd
probably just specify a particular host:port that is a freenet url.
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Re: [freenet-support] Request for help

2004-01-30 Thread Toad
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 11:27:55PM +, Ian Clarke wrote:
 Toad wrote:
 2. Does anyone have a suitable server for a watchme/testnet testbed?
 This would probably have to be a fairly beefy machine, on bandwidth,
 CPU, memory and maybe even disk, although of course we'd be using mysql
 or similar.
 
 Um, yes - we do, dodo.

I was under the impression that dodo was rather limited in terms of
bandwidth usage.
 
 Ian.
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[freenet-support] Serious JVM bug.

2004-01-30 Thread Nick Austin
I received the following error message on the console where Fred was running.

Waited more than 200ms to dequeue, 16 in queue, 2463 millis since enqueued last item, 
5507 maximum waits so far - could indicate serious JVM bug. Please report to [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] along with JVM and OS/kernel.

System Information:

Node Version
0.5

Protocol Version
STABLE-1.49

Build Number
5065

CVS Revision
1.90.2.50.2.91

$ java -version
java version 1.4.2_03
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.2_03-b02)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2_03-b02, mixed mode)

$ uname -a
Linux name omitted 2.4.20-28_36.rh9.atsmp #1 SMP Mon Jan 5 22:54:59 EST 2004 i686 
i686 i386 GNU/Linux

$ free
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:   1030304 480996 549308  0  77448 200248
-/+ buffers/cache: 203300 827004
Swap:  1052248  01052248



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Re: [freenet-support] Way to much RAM! Build 5064

2004-01-30 Thread Phillip Hutchings
On 31/01/2004, at 12:32 PM, David Masover wrote:

| Another good idea would be a 'freenet browser', something like Gecko 
or

No, it wouldn't.  Gecko is for rendering (and I'd guess that WebKit is
also).  It takes html and renders it.  Freenet currently uses html, and
will probably continue to use it (at least for browsing).
I am quite aware of what WebKit and Gecko do.

It doesn't use http, of course, but adding a freenet://  URL style
wouldn't change things too much, since you need the key first anyway --
it's going to be a long address no matter what.  All that would do is
allow for URLs to be to somewhere other than localhost, which can
already be done (not sure if it has) by the server itself.  This is
better, because it doesn't require modifying a browser, and so far
there's only one server.
Or 192.168.0.1 in my case.

And if you wanted to do such a thing, or the privacy features
auto-set, you would do it as a browser extension -- notice when it's a
freenet url, and don't do things like caching it.  For this, you'd
probably just specify a particular host:port that is a freenet url.
And how many browsers do that? Sure, I'm not sure about writing a 
plugin, since most of the time they can only add processing for 
different MIME types, whereas a different browser using a freenet:// 
protocol could connect through FCP and do things like simplify 
splitfiles, insertions and the like with an interface that normal users 
could use. Sure, there's things such as fiw, but it's not the easiest 
of things to use. Having the whole feature set in one application would 
make it a lot nicer.

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Re: [freenet-support] Request for help

2004-01-30 Thread Ian Clarke
Toad wrote:
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 11:27:55PM +, Ian Clarke wrote:

Toad wrote:

2. Does anyone have a suitable server for a watchme/testnet testbed?
This would probably have to be a fairly beefy machine, on bandwidth,
CPU, memory and maybe even disk, although of course we'd be using mysql
or similar.
Um, yes - we do, dodo.
I was under the impression that dodo was rather limited in terms of
bandwidth usage.
It has 15GB/month IIRC.

Ian.
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Re: [freenet-support] Request for help

2004-01-30 Thread Toad
On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 12:27:19AM +, Ian Clarke wrote:
 Toad wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 11:27:55PM +, Ian Clarke wrote:
 
 Toad wrote:
 
 2. Does anyone have a suitable server for a watchme/testnet testbed?
 This would probably have to be a fairly beefy machine, on bandwidth,
 CPU, memory and maybe even disk, although of course we'd be using mysql
 or similar.
 Um, yes - we do, dodo.
 I was under the impression that dodo was rather limited in terms of
 bandwidth usage.
 
 It has 15GB/month IIRC.

I doubt that would be enough for full watchme functionality. It'd be
fine for node registration etc though.
 
 Ian.
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Re: [freenet-dev] Re: [freenet-support] Request for help

2004-01-30 Thread Sheldon Young
  2. Does anyone have a suitable server for a watchme/testnet testbed?
  This would probably have to be a fairly beefy machine, on bandwidth,
  CPU, memory and maybe even disk, although of course we'd be using mysql
  or similar.

 Um, yes - we do, dodo.

 Ian.

Before anybody thinks Ian wroke up on the wrong side of the bed, dodo is
the name of the machine. :)


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