Re: [freenet-support] It just isn't easy
You might want to try out the more stable Freenet 0.5 version. There are more users and much more content than the alpha 0.7 version. On Wednesday 16 August 2006 06:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I was going to dedicate a PC and it's resources to Freenet. I installed the > application but don't have someone to connect to. I was able to create the > URL with my information, but now I have to get on the IRC channel. I got > Mirc, but it doesn't have the freenet server listed. I'm never going to use > Mirc for anything but to find someone to connect to. So far I just don't > have time to learn how to use IRC just to find someone to connect to. > Anyone want to tell me how to do it? > > _ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > ___ > Support mailing list > Support@freenetproject.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at > http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] It just isn't easy
You might want to try out the more stable Freenet 0.5 version. There are more users and much more content than the alpha 0.7 version. On Wednesday 16 August 2006 06:33, diddler4u at hotmail.com wrote: > I was going to dedicate a PC and it's resources to Freenet. I installed the > application but don't have someone to connect to. I was able to create the > URL with my information, but now I have to get on the IRC channel. I got > Mirc, but it doesn't have the freenet server listed. I'm never going to use > Mirc for anything but to find someone to connect to. So far I just don't > have time to learn how to use IRC just to find someone to connect to. > Anyone want to tell me how to do it? > > _ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > ___ > Support mailing list > Support at freenetproject.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at > http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or > mailto:support-request at freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7
I can empathize. Freenet is is one of the first projects that I've seen take a working application and push it aside, while directing new users to an alpha version. The way it would normally be done is listing Freenet 0.5 as the stable version instead of the "unsupported" version, and 0.7 as the alpha version still under development. New users would opt for the stable version. Having new users directed to an alpha version while the stable version is fully functioning is quite strange. On Saturday 19 August 2006 08:11, - wrote: > Hi, > > I think you're making a mistake in forcing new people into the beta test > freenet 0.7 instead of the established 0.5. > > You're forgetting how _highly_ someone new has to be motivated to try > freenet, even version 0.5 which works and is not a beta test. Let's think > about what would motivate someone... > > I remember when I found freenet, I installed it spent hours reading over > the technical jargon. > It was incredible slow. I removed it thinking this is a pile of crap that > does not work. > > Only a few months later, did I again bother to go through this > complicated process and after waiting for three days with it on, it finally > started working. > > The reason I spent many hours and went back after throwing it out once, was > because I was _highly motivated_ for the anonymity and content. > > Here's the problem: > > If 0.7 doesn't offer the anonymity and the content, plus it's an unstable > beta test, > why would anyone new bother to join the community? > > Do you think people are nice enough to offer their time and computers to > beta test some random highly technical peer to peer application that > completely hogs your computer's resources? > > > > The problem with freenet (even 0.5) is, it just isn't user friendly. > A person who just stumbles on freenet does not know if it's actually going > to work. After seeing how slow it is, most people, like myself will just > get rid of it, not bothering to learn all the configurations, frost, fuqid, > etc. > > If you took the time to create a simple, down-to-earth website and install > program without all the technical jargon, you would double or triple your > user base. > > The only NEW users you're going to get to freenet 0.7 are going to be > peer-to-peer programming enthusiasts. And how many of those are there that > don't know about freenet already? > > So instead of scaring all potential freenet users away, It would be wiser > to just ask members of the freenet community to do the beta testing, and > create a nice user friendly website for 0,5 until 0,7 is working. Even I > would be willing to help create this website, and I'm sure many other > people also would volunteer. > > Best Regards, > > Van ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7
I can empathize. Freenet is is one of the first projects that I've seen take a working application and push it aside, while directing new users to an alpha version. The way it would normally be done is listing Freenet 0.5 as the stable version instead of the "unsupported" version, and 0.7 as the alpha version still under development. New users would opt for the stable version. Having new users directed to an alpha version while the stable version is fully functioning is quite strange. On Saturday 19 August 2006 08:11, - wrote: > Hi, > > I think you're making a mistake in forcing new people into the beta test > freenet 0.7 instead of the established 0.5. > > You're forgetting how _highly_ someone new has to be motivated to try > freenet, even version 0.5 which works and is not a beta test. Let's think > about what would motivate someone... > > I remember when I found freenet, I installed it spent hours reading over > the technical jargon. > It was incredible slow. I removed it thinking this is a pile of crap that > does not work. > > Only a few months later, did I again bother to go through this > complicated process and after waiting for three days with it on, it finally > started working. > > The reason I spent many hours and went back after throwing it out once, was > because I was _highly motivated_ for the anonymity and content. > > Here's the problem: > > If 0.7 doesn't offer the anonymity and the content, plus it's an unstable > beta test, > why would anyone new bother to join the community? > > Do you think people are nice enough to offer their time and computers to > beta test some random highly technical peer to peer application that > completely hogs your computer's resources? > > > > The problem with freenet (even 0.5) is, it just isn't user friendly. > A person who just stumbles on freenet does not know if it's actually going > to work. After seeing how slow it is, most people, like myself will just > get rid of it, not bothering to learn all the configurations, frost, fuqid, > etc. > > If you took the time to create a simple, down-to-earth website and install > program without all the technical jargon, you would double or triple your > user base. > > The only NEW users you're going to get to freenet 0.7 are going to be > peer-to-peer programming enthusiasts. And how many of those are there that > don't know about freenet already? > > So instead of scaring all potential freenet users away, It would be wiser > to just ask members of the freenet community to do the beta testing, and > create a nice user friendly website for 0,5 until 0,7 is working. Even I > would be willing to help create this website, and I'm sure many other > people also would volunteer. > > Best Regards, > > Van
[freenet-support] shutdown node - bsod.
> real great, i shut down the node using the button on webby, > my computer BSOD thanks to that I am using alpha software and my computer exploded and my house burnt down and and and and and... We all know that you are mad about that BSOD... but (1) it should be a calculated risk that things could go wrong when you are using software like that and (2) it doesn't help to complain about things like that without more information (os, cpu, memmory, log-files, et cetera).
[freenet-support] shutdown node - bsod.
real great, i shut down the node using the button on webby, my computer BSOD thanks to that
Re: [freenet-support] shutdown node - bsod.
> real great, i shut down the node using the button on webby, > my computer BSOD thanks to that I am using alpha software and my computer exploded and my house burnt down and and and and and... We all know that you are mad about that BSOD... but (1) it should be a calculated risk that things could go wrong when you are using software like that and (2) it doesn't help to complain about things like that without more information (os, cpu, memmory, log-files, et cetera). ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] shutdown node - bsod.
real great, i shut down the node using the button on webby, my computer BSOD thanks to that ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
