Re: [freenet-support] Straw poll: Should Freenet require Javascript?
On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 16:29 +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote: > We are considering making it impossible to use Freenet without a browser > supporting Javascript. Yes or no answers would be useful (feel free to make > further comments). I will post a similar poll to FMS. I suggest somebody does > Frost, I personally don't use Frost. No. But then again, you haven't made a case for it. Plead your case and ask again. > ___ > Support mailing list > Support@freenetproject.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Straw poll: Should Freenet require Javascript?
Matthew Toseland schreef: We are considering making it impossible to use Freenet without a browser supporting Javascript. Yes or no answers would be useful (feel free to make further comments). I will post a similar poll to FMS. I suggest somebody does Frost, I personally don't use Frost. No, no no and eeehm... no. Is this a recipe to stir things up at the mailing list? MUST be some kinda joke. I'm nothing like a programmer but also I know to steer clear of javascript if I value anonymity. Twenty seven proxies on a string are all useless if javascript is enabled. The moment javascript is required, FN is gone from my system. Only thing I trust javascript at, is it doing things I don't want. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Straw poll: Should Freenet require Javascript?
It's a no for me. I'm not at all against JavaScript, and it's safe to enable it in incognito mode (or when using a separate Firefox profile for Freenet). The problem is that some users won't enable JS no matter what, and some others won't be able to (e.g. because they are using a non-conventional browser). And we shouldn't neglect FProxy's accessibility. _If_ there will be a way to use FProxy without JavaScript (and your message suggests the opposite), then I think everyone will agree with me that it's okay. On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > We are considering making it impossible to use Freenet without a browser > supporting Javascript. Yes or no answers would be useful (feel free to make > further comments). I will post a similar poll to FMS. I suggest somebody does > Frost, I personally don't use Frost. > > ___ > Support mailing list > Support@freenetproject.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe > ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Straw poll: Should Freenet require Javascript?
I'm fine with js being used, but it should deprecate gracefully. As a previous poster noted, it's where 99% of browser exploits come through. Ringo On 10/15/2010 12:07 PM, Dennis Nezic wrote: > On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:29:52 +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote: >> We are considering making it impossible to use Freenet without a >> browser supporting Javascript. Yes or no answers would be useful >> (feel free to make further comments). I will post a similar poll to >> FMS. I suggest somebody does Frost, I personally don't use Frost. > > Frost/FMS/etc get around the latency/loading issue by background-working > "subscriptions". Why not just implement something more along those > lines -- expanding on the Bookmarks idea. That way the freesites people > read are pretty instantly available, and updated. > ___ > Support mailing list > Support@freenetproject.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Straw poll: Should Freenet require Javascript?
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:29:52 +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote: > We are considering making it impossible to use Freenet without a > browser supporting Javascript. Yes or no answers would be useful > (feel free to make further comments). I will post a similar poll to > FMS. I suggest somebody does Frost, I personally don't use Frost. Frost/FMS/etc get around the latency/loading issue by background-working "subscriptions". Why not just implement something more along those lines -- expanding on the Bookmarks idea. That way the freesites people read are pretty instantly available, and updated. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Straw poll: Should Freenet require Javascript?
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:29:52 +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote: > We are considering making it impossible to use Freenet without a > browser supporting Javascript. Yes or no answers would be useful > (feel free to make further comments). I will post a similar poll to > FMS. I suggest somebody does Frost, I personally don't use Frost. Wtf -- my computer clock has jumped a few months. It's April already? (JavaScript is pure evil -- it is at the root of much of website-evil -- in ten years when it becomes extinct, people will look back at these years, at how ugly and disfunctional and anti-user and mouse-centric and cpu-draining we made life for ourselves, and shiver at the thought of human potential. My main browser doesn't support JavaScript. I have to be pulled by the teeth to open up Midori or Firefox on asshole-websites, and pretty much every time my CPU skyrockets to 100% and my fingers start bleeding on my touchpad, hovering over all the retarded elusive god-damned popup menus.) ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
[freenet-support] Straw poll: Should Freenet require Javascript?
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