Re: [freenet-support] Straw poll: Should Freenet require Javascript?

2010-10-15 Thread Ray Jones
On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 16:29 +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> We are considering making it impossible to use Freenet without a browser 
> supporting Javascript. Yes or no answers would be useful (feel free to make 
> further comments). I will post a similar poll to FMS. I suggest somebody does 
> Frost, I personally don't use Frost.

No. But then again, you haven't made a case for it. Plead your case and
ask again.

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Re: [freenet-support] Straw poll: Should Freenet require Javascript?

2010-10-15 Thread Jep

Matthew Toseland schreef:

We are considering making it impossible to use Freenet without a browser 
supporting Javascript. Yes or no answers would be useful (feel free to make 
further comments). I will post a similar poll to FMS. I suggest somebody does 
Frost, I personally don't use Frost.



No, no no and eeehm... no.

Is this a recipe to stir things up at the mailing list?
MUST be some kinda joke.

I'm nothing like a programmer but also I know to steer clear of 
javascript if I value anonymity. Twenty seven proxies on a string are 
all useless if javascript is enabled.


The moment javascript is required, FN is gone from my system. Only thing 
I trust javascript at, is it doing things I don't want.


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Re: [freenet-support] Straw poll: Should Freenet require Javascript?

2010-10-15 Thread Romain Dalmaso
It's a no for me.

I'm not at all against JavaScript, and it's safe to enable it in
incognito mode (or when using a separate Firefox profile for Freenet).
The problem is that some users won't enable JS no matter what, and
some others won't be able to (e.g. because they are using a
non-conventional browser). And we shouldn't neglect FProxy's
accessibility.

_If_ there will be a way to use FProxy without JavaScript (and your
message suggests the opposite), then I think everyone will agree with
me that it's okay.

On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Matthew Toseland
 wrote:
> We are considering making it impossible to use Freenet without a browser 
> supporting Javascript. Yes or no answers would be useful (feel free to make 
> further comments). I will post a similar poll to FMS. I suggest somebody does 
> Frost, I personally don't use Frost.
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Re: [freenet-support] Straw poll: Should Freenet require Javascript?

2010-10-15 Thread ringo
I'm fine with js being used, but it should deprecate gracefully. As a
previous poster noted, it's where 99% of browser exploits come through.

Ringo

On 10/15/2010 12:07 PM, Dennis Nezic wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:29:52 +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote:
>> We are considering making it impossible to use Freenet without a
>> browser supporting Javascript. Yes or no answers would be useful
>> (feel free to make further comments). I will post a similar poll to
>> FMS. I suggest somebody does Frost, I personally don't use Frost.
> 
> Frost/FMS/etc get around the latency/loading issue by background-working
> "subscriptions". Why not just implement something more along those
> lines -- expanding on the Bookmarks idea. That way the freesites people
> read are pretty instantly available, and updated.
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Re: [freenet-support] Straw poll: Should Freenet require Javascript?

2010-10-15 Thread Dennis Nezic
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:29:52 +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> We are considering making it impossible to use Freenet without a
> browser supporting Javascript. Yes or no answers would be useful
> (feel free to make further comments). I will post a similar poll to
> FMS. I suggest somebody does Frost, I personally don't use Frost.

Frost/FMS/etc get around the latency/loading issue by background-working
"subscriptions". Why not just implement something more along those
lines -- expanding on the Bookmarks idea. That way the freesites people
read are pretty instantly available, and updated.
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Re: [freenet-support] Straw poll: Should Freenet require Javascript?

2010-10-15 Thread Dennis Nezic
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:29:52 +0100, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> We are considering making it impossible to use Freenet without a
> browser supporting Javascript. Yes or no answers would be useful
> (feel free to make further comments). I will post a similar poll to
> FMS. I suggest somebody does Frost, I personally don't use Frost.

Wtf -- my computer clock has jumped a few months. It's April already?

(JavaScript is pure evil -- it is at the root of much of website-evil
-- in ten years when it becomes extinct, people will look back at these
years, at how ugly and disfunctional and anti-user and mouse-centric
and cpu-draining we made life for ourselves, and shiver at the thought
of human potential. My main browser doesn't support JavaScript. I have
to be pulled by the teeth to open up Midori or Firefox on
asshole-websites, and pretty much every time my CPU skyrockets to 100%
and my fingers start bleeding on my touchpad, hovering over all the
retarded elusive god-damned popup menus.)
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[freenet-support] Straw poll: Should Freenet require Javascript?

2010-10-15 Thread Matthew Toseland
We are considering making it impossible to use Freenet without a browser 
supporting Javascript. Yes or no answers would be useful (feel free to make 
further comments). I will post a similar poll to FMS. I suggest somebody does 
Frost, I personally don't use Frost.


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