[freenet-support] (no subject)
>From: "boyonedar" >Reply-To: support at freenetproject.org >To: >Subject: [freenet-support] (no subject) >Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:06:56 -0500 > >I downloaded freenet. I went to main page and sometimes I can get into >links and other times it times out. When I can get into links and get >to files it rarely get through download without timing out. any help >here... Thanks >boy >___ >Support mailing list >Support at freenetproject.org >http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support >Unsubscribe at >http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support >Or mailto:support-request at freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe _ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
RE: [freenet-support] (no subject)
From: "boyonedar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: support@freenetproject.org To: Subject: [freenet-support] (no subject) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:06:56 -0500 I downloaded freenet. I went to main page and sometimes I can get into links and other times it times out. When I can get into links and get to files it rarely get through download without timing out. any help here... Thanks boy ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [freenet-support] Re:Segfaults infreenet.node.ds.FSDataStoreElement$KeyInputStreamImpl.close()
Dont get me wrong, i do admire what they are trying to do, and i wish them the best of luck however i do not free it possible to make it trully anonymous, it only ramains so because of the current laws, big brother is nearly here, they are already trying to pass a bill that lets the monitor itnernet conversations, what is there to stop them from opening their own nodes and monitoring everyone? soon enough they wont need to figure otu who it going to, just that its passign through your system and it will be enough for them to get you, im afraid there is little to stop them, short of judgement day, if the bill does pass i for one will no longer touch the internet, im not down with big brother. Freedom is but an illusion as is anonymity. as for java, im not sure what they were thinking, im a programer, java is the most hirrible language ive ever had the displeasure to use, it is slow, unstable and unreliable, there are many far more powerful languages they could have used. anyways, power to you, i hope they achive what they sat out to do, im just not sure that it is possible. From: Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: support@freenetproject.org To: support@freenetproject.org Subject: [freenet-support] Re:Segfaults infreenet.node.ds.FSDataStoreElement$KeyInputStreamImpl.close() Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 22:33:48 + (UTC) n/a n/a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > honestly i think its more trouble then its worth, from everything ive read > it is completly un-secure which means everyone and their mother is watching, No it isn't. The current network does have known attacks sure, but so does every current anonymous/psuedo-anonymous network that uses the Internet, and they always will to some extent - all you can do is make attacks so difficult and expensive they're unfeasible in practice. Which is what the devs are trying to do. Even on the current network it's a lot harder to track Freenet than the "regular" p2p you seem to be comparing it to like Gnutella2 or ed2k. There's a reason why nobody running freenet has ever got a subpoena from the RIAA's hired goons or a DMCA takedown notice, or more to the point why (as far as I know) nobody has been prosecuted for trading highly illegal material over it. > it is painfully slow and un-reliable, Compared to a well-seeded torrent it's usually slow, sure. (See below for why.) But in my experience reliability is better than your average torrent or most other p2p - big files might take days, but once they start you can generally depend on getting it all in the end. In contrast torrent seeds / p2p peers can just disappear and leave you with an incomplete file forever, and quite often do. > not to mention that needlessly huge > file you gotta download when u install it that it never actually lets you > finish downloading, Huh? What file? You mean Java, or what the windows webinstaller downloads? The windows installer / configurer is somewhat dodgy, partly for this reason 0.7 is aiming to simplify it a lot and do as much as possible inside the node. > for what its worth you might as well save yourself the > headache and use any other p2p. Well, you are making the fundamental error of comparing it to mature, non-anonymous p2p apps. Freenet is still a very experimental, beta (or even alpha depending who you ask ;) network which quite often has to come up with the theory as it goes along because nobody has done it before. Its primary goal is anonymity, not performance, and it turns out that the two things are unfortunately diametrically opposed quite often. For example it would be faster if it did more path folding, but that would make it less anonymous. That said, the core developers are well aware that performance is not as good as it could and should be. There are good reasons to hope that the 0.7 rewrite will be better in this regard when it gets to release quality. Even then though you must realise that the ultimate aim of Freenet is *not* blazing-fast popular warez^Wfile downloading like the completely non-anonymous Bittorrent, but rather for secure and anonymous grass-roots distribution of content that may be highly illegal/suppressed in some countries or otherwise against the interests of the authorities. As in people could be *tortured and killed* if they were caught. THAT kind of anonymity. > with the experience ive had with freenet its my opinion that it has been > utterly compremised, there is no anonymity. A JVM crash does NOT mean freenet has been in any way "compromised", it means there are bugs in the JVM, like there are in all complex software. These crashes are not Freenet's fault, it's Suns (or Blackdown's for some people.) In fact the security sandboxing of the JVM is why you get a nice stack trace like those posted above, the virtual machine has crashed but it was self-contained an
RE: [freenet-support] Segfaults infreenet.node.ds.FSDataStoreElement$KeyInputStreamImpl.close()
honestly i think its more trouble then its worth, from everything ive read it is completly un-secure which means everyone and their mother is watching, it is painfully slow and un-reliable, not to mention that needlessly huge file you gotta download when u install it that it never actually lets you finish downloading, for what its worth you might as well save yourself the headache and use any other p2p. with the experience ive had with freenet its my opinion that it has been utterly compremised, there is no anonymity. _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] something odd
I had to remove freenet from my system, i tried to install it yesterday but it cept failing hlaf way through the seednode.ref file, much like its doing now, very agrivating. But that is not what my post is about, since yesterday, the seednode.ref file has increased in size by almost 2 megs, what does this signify? a hacked seednode file? or perhaps increased law enforcement presence? eg they spawn lots of nodes so most people connect through them and then they can monitor and track them. i could be totaly off mid you, well let me know what u think _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] wich is safer?
which is safer anonymity wise, frost or the freenet gateway? and really just how anonymous is freenet? i read alot of things and everything says something different, is there a way they can see what you download or view? has anyone been busted for using this? thanks _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] temp files from gateway
When surfin through the freenet gateway, the websites you view get stored on your system along with all the images etc. you view, where are they located? please let me know Thanks! _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! hthttp://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]