RE: [freenet-support] Freenet causing crashes...
> > And yeah, typically 15-20 minutes. And when I say crash, I > mean the > > whole system powers down. Goes to a black screen, my monitor shuts > > down, etc... > > That is surely a heat problem. Yeah, I know that's what it sounds like, but that ain't it. I finally got it figured out today. Apparently, SP2 reset my power-saving settings in my display properties, so it made my monitor power-down after 20 minutes. Man, do I feel foolish! But in my own defense, I've had heat-related crashes in the past, and that's the ONLY time my monitor ever goes into power-down mode, cuz I long ago set it to never do that. It WAS kinda puzzling that my monitor would go into power-down mode, yet my PC's power light would stay on. Usually during a heat-related crash, it'd just reboot. This time, it just sat there with a black monitor. It struck me as odd, but the screensaver thing didn't occur to me right away. Though I appreciate your efforts to help me. Thanks. I may have to quit running it anyway. It's starting to seem to me that running a node is a little bigger commitment than your typical P2P client, and that it's really more appropriate for running on it's own machine. I don't know that it'll be practical to keep it up and running 24/7 on my desktop system, as it is now. But we'll see. I'll leave it running overnight tonight and see how things go. I did some research today, and did some tweaking to my freenet.ini to try to get things working a little better. Time will tell. Anyway, thanks again. Don ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Freenet causing crashes...
On Wed, Aug 18, 2004 at 02:11:40PM -0400, Don Gregory wrote: > Well, the heat thing is the obvious answer, but I don't think that's it. > My CPU temp never goes above 50 degrees celsius, which should be well > within acceptable tolerances. Plus, I have my case open and a > FULL-SIZE, like cool your whole house sized, fan blowing right into the > case. I used to have heat problems, but none since I put that fan in > there. > > Just to be on the safe-side, I just underclocked my CPU on the MB a few > cycles, so we'll see if that helps stability. > > And yeah, typically 15-20 minutes. And when I say crash, I mean the > whole system powers down. Goes to a black screen, my monitor shuts > down, etc... That is surely a heat problem. > I don't think it's the CPU usage doing it necessarily, cuz > I often run video-editing software set to high priority that runs it at > near 100% all day long without issue. I just mention the CPU usage > because I wasn't sure if that was normal or not. Well, it might cause different CPU usage patterns - use different parts of the chip, higher overall temp. > > My uplink speed is only 256K. (No premiere service available in my > neighborhood yet) :( > > Memory in the Flaunch.ini was set to "default". I changed it to 256M, > so we'll see what happens. I'll also upgrade my Java too. Thought I > was already up to date there, but I guess not. > > Thanks for all the suggestions, everyone. I appreciate it. > > Anybody else here have any trouble with Freenet running on XP SP2? I > know SP2 is still a bit new to most people, and it's a HUGE > service pack, weighing in at over 260M, and it screws with hundreds of > system files, so I'd like to be able to rule that out definitively if > anybody here is using SP2 with Freenet without incident. There have > been reports of it messing with other pieces of software, so I naturally > assumed this might be a likely suspect. -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [freenet-support] Freenet causing crashes...
Well, the heat thing is the obvious answer, but I don't think that's it. My CPU temp never goes above 50 degrees celsius, which should be well within acceptable tolerances. Plus, I have my case open and a FULL-SIZE, like cool your whole house sized, fan blowing right into the case. I used to have heat problems, but none since I put that fan in there. Just to be on the safe-side, I just underclocked my CPU on the MB a few cycles, so we'll see if that helps stability. And yeah, typically 15-20 minutes. And when I say crash, I mean the whole system powers down. Goes to a black screen, my monitor shuts down, etc... I don't think it's the CPU usage doing it necessarily, cuz I often run video-editing software set to high priority that runs it at near 100% all day long without issue. I just mention the CPU usage because I wasn't sure if that was normal or not. My uplink speed is only 256K. (No premiere service available in my neighborhood yet) Memory in the Flaunch.ini was set to "default". I changed it to 256M, so we'll see what happens. I'll also upgrade my Java too. Thought I was already up to date there, but I guess not. Thanks for all the suggestions, everyone. I appreciate it. Anybody else here have any trouble with Freenet running on XP SP2? I know SP2 is still a bit new to most people, and it's a HUGE service pack, weighing in at over 260M, and it screws with hundreds of system files, so I'd like to be able to rule that out definitively if anybody here is using SP2 with Freenet without incident. There have been reports of it messing with other pieces of software, so I naturally assumed this might be a likely suspect. Don > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Toad > Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 12:05 PM > To: Don Gregory; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Freenet causing crashes... > > > On Wed, Aug 18, 2004 at 08:36:21AM -0400, Don Gregory wrote: > > I just recently setup a node, and I'm trying to let it run > for a while > > to give it a chance to spread its tendrils so to speak. I'm at the > > point now where it's had maybe 4-5 hours to run over my 3Mb cable > > connection and I'm STARTING to get a little responsiveness from the > > network. > > > > Problem is, I want to leave it running for several hours to fully > > propagate itself, whatever, but it seems to be gobbling up a LOT of > > CPU power. Well, not the Freenet executable, but the java engine > > running it. That by itself wouldn't be a problem, but it > seems to be > > making my computer crash. After leaving it running for 15 > minutes or > > so, my computer will spontaneously crash/shut-down. > > Hmmm. Your computer has inadequate cooling, most likely. Not > our problem :). No obvious ideas for a workaround... except > perhaps enabling doCPULoad=true in the config file (you're on > linux, right? :)). > > > > I tried setting the CPU priority in the config tool to be below > > normal, I tried setting the process priority in Task Manager to be > > below normal > > Hmm, you're not on linux. That rules out that idea. > > > for both the javaw.exe and freenet.exe processes, but it's still > > devouring over 90% of my CPU on average, and it's still crashing my > > system after 10-15 minutes. This really sucks, because it was just > > around NOW that things were starting to get interesting. > > 15 minutes?! Your system's expected lifetime is pretty low if > it crashes in 15 minutes of 90% CPU usage. Are you sure you > don't have major issues with inadequate cooling? > > > > The system I'm running it on is: > > > > Windows XP Pro, SP2 > > Athlon XP 1800+ > > 768 RAM > > 3Mb cable internet connection > > The downlink doesn't matter much. The uplink is what matters. > 3Mbps downlink, what's the uplink? 256kbps? 768kbps? > > > Windows Binary 5091 version of the Node > > Sun Java 2 Runtime Environment, SE v1.4.2_04 > > > > Can anybody help explain what's going on here and how I > might fix it? > > I just recently installed SP 2 for XP, and I know that has a > > 10-connection limit for half-open TCPIP connections, and in the > > Freenet config > > That doesn't cause major problems, according to other > reports. In any case it'll just queue them; it shouldn't > cause a crash. > > BTW, what exactly do you mean by crashing? > > > utility, it says 200 connections, so I was thinking maybe > that might > > have something to do wi
Re: [freenet-support] Freenet causing crashes...
On Wed, Aug 18, 2004 at 08:36:21AM -0400, Don Gregory wrote: > I just recently setup a node, and I'm trying to let it run for a while > to give it a chance to spread its tendrils so to speak. I'm at the > point now where it's had maybe 4-5 hours to run over my 3Mb cable > connection and I'm STARTING to get a little responsiveness from the > network. > > Problem is, I want to leave it running for several hours to fully > propagate itself, whatever, but it seems to be gobbling up a LOT of CPU > power. Well, not the Freenet executable, but the java engine running > it. That by itself wouldn't be a problem, but it seems to be making my > computer crash. After leaving it running for 15 minutes or so, my > computer will spontaneously crash/shut-down. Hmmm. Your computer has inadequate cooling, most likely. Not our problem :). No obvious ideas for a workaround... except perhaps enabling doCPULoad=true in the config file (you're on linux, right? :)). > > I tried setting the CPU priority in the config tool to be below normal, > I tried setting the process priority in Task Manager to be below normal Hmm, you're not on linux. That rules out that idea. > for both the javaw.exe and freenet.exe processes, but it's still > devouring over 90% of my CPU on average, and it's still crashing my > system after 10-15 minutes. This really sucks, because it was just > around NOW that things were starting to get interesting. 15 minutes?! Your system's expected lifetime is pretty low if it crashes in 15 minutes of 90% CPU usage. Are you sure you don't have major issues with inadequate cooling? > > The system I'm running it on is: > > Windows XP Pro, SP2 > Athlon XP 1800+ > 768 RAM > 3Mb cable internet connection The downlink doesn't matter much. The uplink is what matters. 3Mbps downlink, what's the uplink? 256kbps? 768kbps? > Windows Binary 5091 version of the Node > Sun Java 2 Runtime Environment, SE v1.4.2_04 > > Can anybody help explain what's going on here and how I might fix it? I > just recently installed SP 2 for XP, and I know that has a 10-connection > limit for half-open TCPIP connections, and in the Freenet config That doesn't cause major problems, according to other reports. In any case it'll just queue them; it shouldn't cause a crash. BTW, what exactly do you mean by crashing? > utility, it says 200 connections, so I was thinking maybe that might > have something to do with it. I actually changed that bit of my Windows > configuration, as 10 is too low. The TCPIP stack I'm running now allows > 50 half-open connections. That may still be too low, though, depending > on just how Freenet's using TCPIP. Freenet uses 200 OPEN conns, it only opens 50 or so at once - so there will not generally be more than 50 half-open conns. > > So, is there anybody that knows anything about running a node on a SP2 > version of WinXP Pro? Also, any advice for configuring things for > optimum performance? I really have no idea how the Freenet network > works under the hood, so I really don't have a clue how to tune things > properly. Any good n00b resources available that I could look at? > > Any help appreciated. I love the Freenet concept, but it's still a > little tech-heavy for me to grasp at this stage. > > Thanks much, > Don -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Freenet causing crashes...
Definitely a heat problem. * Make sure the vents on your computer case are not obstructed. * Check the fans in the machine are working properly. * See about a bigger/better heatsink/fan on the CPU if necessary. If you're not very knowledgeable about hardware talk to the vendor about these and see what they'll do. Unless the ventilation is blocked, an overheating problem is their fault anyways, and it might even come under warranty. ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
