Re: [freenet-support] PayPal, ISPs and freedom of speech

2004-05-20 Thread Toad
On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 04:22:22PM -0700, Christopher Brian Jack wrote: > > > motivated. Is money worth losing our freedom for? I don't think so but a > > > lot of shareholders probably disagree with me (because they're rich and > > > can effect political maneuvering). > > > > Welcome to Babylon!

Re: [freenet-support] PayPal, ISPs and freedom of speech

2004-05-20 Thread Christopher Brian Jack
> > motivated. Is money worth losing our freedom for? I don't think so but a > > lot of shareholders probably disagree with me (because they're rich and > > can effect political maneuvering). > > Welcome to Babylon! > > > > It's going to get to the point where everyone needs to run a freenet node

Re: [freenet-support] PayPal, ISPs and freedom of speech

2004-05-19 Thread Toad
On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 05:51:34PM -0700, Christopher Brian Jack wrote: > > The ISP can monitor your email even if they don't relay your mail.. > > > With the whole PayPal thing how > > > long before ISPs start using *their* TOSes as weapons against freenet > > > particpants. > > Only if they get s

Re: [freenet-support] PayPal, ISPs and freedom of speech

2004-05-18 Thread Christopher Brian Jack
> The ISP can monitor your email even if they don't relay your mail.. > > With the whole PayPal thing how > > long before ISPs start using *their* TOSes as weapons against freenet > > particpants. > Only if they get scared. Unfortunately it is depressingly easy to > detect nodes at present, we have