[freenet-support] Re: [Tech] Freenet 0.7 build 953

2006-08-31 Thread Nicholas Sturm
Thank you.  I must search for Ed.  Nick

> [Original Message]
> From: Anonymous via Panta Rhei 
> To: Nicholas Sturm 
> Date: 8/31/2006 3:40:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Re: [Tech] Freenet 0.7 build 953
>
> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 01:42:42 -0400, you wrote:
> >
> > > "There are four boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot,
> > jury,
> > > ammo.  Use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt
> >
> > I'm quite familiar with the other folks mentioned.  As a genealogist,
this
> > Ed Howdershelt interests me very much.  Could you point me to more
> > information regarding him?  One of his cousin seems to have lived a few
> > hundred yards from where my mother was born and raised. And I've heard
the
> > surname (and several variants) since I was perhaps eight to ten years of
> > age.
>
> Sorry, I saw it used in somebody's message on usenet (alt.privacy I
think),
> liked it and decided to add it to my collection.
>
> details of it's origin or the credited author are unknown to me.
>
>
> --
> "An evil exists that threatens every man, woman, and child of this great
> nation.  We must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect
our
> homeland."
>
> - Adolf Hitler, proposing the creation of the Gestapo in Nazi Germany.
> - George Bush, Talking about the Homeland Security Act and the Patriot
Act.
>
> "The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become
> the instruments of tyranny at home."
>
> James Madison, fourth president of
> the United States
>
> I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the
> death, your right to say it. - Voltaire
>
> "There are four boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot,
jury, 
> ammo. Use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt
>
>





Re: [freenet-support] Re: [Tech] Freenet 0.7 build 953

2006-08-30 Thread Nicholas Sturm
Thank you.  I must search for Ed.  Nick

> [Original Message]
> From: Anonymous via Panta Rhei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Nicholas Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 8/31/2006 3:40:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Re: [Tech] Freenet 0.7 build 953
>
> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 01:42:42 -0400, you wrote:
> >
> > > "There are four boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot,
> > jury,
> > > ammo.  Use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt
> >
> > I'm quite familiar with the other folks mentioned.  As a genealogist,
this
> > Ed Howdershelt interests me very much.  Could you point me to more
> > information regarding him?  One of his cousin seems to have lived a few
> > hundred yards from where my mother was born and raised. And I've heard
the
> > surname (and several variants) since I was perhaps eight to ten years of
> > age.
>
> Sorry, I saw it used in somebody's message on usenet (alt.privacy I
think),
> liked it and decided to add it to my collection.
>
> details of it's origin or the credited author are unknown to me.
>
>
> --
> "An evil exists that threatens every man, woman, and child of this great
> nation.  We must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect
our
> homeland."
>
> - Adolf Hitler, proposing the creation of the Gestapo in Nazi Germany.
> - George Bush, Talking about the Homeland Security Act and the Patriot
Act.
>
> "The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become
> the instruments of tyranny at home."
>
> James Madison, fourth president of
> the United States
>
> I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the
> death, your right to say it. - Voltaire
>
> "There are four boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot,
jury, 
> ammo. Use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt
>
>


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[freenet-support] Re: [Tech] Freenet 0.7 build 953

2006-08-30 Thread Anonymous via Panta Rhei
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 07:25:16 -0400, you wrote:
>
> On Wednesday 23 August 2006 15:19, Matthew Toseland wrote:
>
> > - Don't start the updater if the wrapper is broken
>
> I have problems with this one.  I do not run the wrapper - I do want freenet 
> to
> download new stable versions and then quit.
> I have the java command that starts freenet in a loop and this suffices to 
> update
> freenet with much of the wrapper's complexity.
> It worked fine.
>
> I would not object to an 'are you sure' message but to block the operation is 
> not
> reasonable.  Without the wrapper its reasonable
> for someone to want freenet to download new jars and prep them for execution 
> when the
> user restarts.
>
> Why do we _need_ this reduced flexibility?


A lack of response to your question I note with disdain



--
"An evil exists that threatens every man, woman, and child of this great
nation.  We must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect our
homeland."

- Adolf Hitler, proposing the creation of the Gestapo in Nazi Germany.
- George Bush, Talking about the Homeland Security Act and the Patriot Act.

"The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become
the instruments of tyranny at home."
- James Madison, fourth president of the United States

I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the
death, your right to say it. - Voltaire

"There are four boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury,
ammo.  Use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt





[freenet-support] Re: [Tech] Freenet 0.7 build 953

2006-08-30 Thread Nicholas Sturm
> "There are four boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot,
jury,
> ammo.  Use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt

I'm quite familiar with the other folks mentioned.  As a genealogist, this
Ed Howdershelt interests me very much.  Could you point me to more
information regarding him?  One of his cousin seems to have lived a few
hundred yards from where my mother was born and raised. And I've heard the
surname (and several variants) since I was perhaps eight to ten years of
age.

Thanks.




Re: [freenet-support] Re: [Tech] Freenet 0.7 build 953

2006-08-29 Thread Nicholas Sturm
> "There are four boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot,
jury,
> ammo.  Use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt

I'm quite familiar with the other folks mentioned.  As a genealogist, this
Ed Howdershelt interests me very much.  Could you point me to more
information regarding him?  One of his cousin seems to have lived a few
hundred yards from where my mother was born and raised. And I've heard the
surname (and several variants) since I was perhaps eight to ten years of
age.

Thanks.

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Re: [freenet-support] Re: [Tech] Freenet 0.7 build 953

2006-08-29 Thread Anonymous via Panta Rhei
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 07:25:16 -0400, you wrote:
>
> On Wednesday 23 August 2006 15:19, Matthew Toseland wrote:
>
> > - Don't start the updater if the wrapper is broken
>
> I have problems with this one.  I do not run the wrapper - I do want freenet 
> to
> download new stable versions and then quit.
> I have the java command that starts freenet in a loop and this suffices to 
> update
> freenet with much of the wrapper's complexity.
> It worked fine.
>
> I would not object to an 'are you sure' message but to block the operation is 
> not
> reasonable.  Without the wrapper its reasonable
> for someone to want freenet to download new jars and prep them for execution 
> when the
> user restarts.
>
> Why do we _need_ this reduced flexibility?


A lack of response to your question I note with disdain



--
"An evil exists that threatens every man, woman, and child of this great
nation.  We must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect our
homeland."

- Adolf Hitler, proposing the creation of the Gestapo in Nazi Germany.
- George Bush, Talking about the Homeland Security Act and the Patriot Act.

"The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become
the instruments of tyranny at home."
- James Madison, fourth president of the United States

I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the
death, your right to say it. - Voltaire

"There are four boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury,
ammo.  Use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt


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[freenet-support] Re: [Tech] Freenet 0.7 build 953

2006-08-29 Thread Ed Tomlinson
On Wednesday 23 August 2006 15:19, Matthew Toseland wrote:

> - Don't start the updater if the wrapper is broken

I have problems with this one.  I do not run the wrapper - I do want freenet to 
download new stable versions and then quit.  
I have the java command that starts freenet in a loop and this suffices to 
update freenet with much of the wrapper's complexity.
It worked fine.

I would not object to an 'are you sure' message but to block the operation is 
not reasonable.  Without the wrapper its reasonable 
for someone to want freenet to download new jars and prep them for execution 
when the user restarts. 

Why do we _need_ this reduced flexibility?

Ed
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[freenet-support] Re: [Tech] Freenet 0.7 build 953

2006-08-24 Thread Ed Tomlinson
On Wednesday 23 August 2006 15:19, Matthew Toseland wrote:

> - Don't start the updater if the wrapper is broken

I have problems with this one.  I do not run the wrapper - I do want freenet to 
download new stable versions and then quit.  
I have the java command that starts freenet in a loop and this suffices to 
update freenet with much of the wrapper's complexity.
It worked fine.

I would not object to an 'are you sure' message but to block the operation is 
not reasonable.  Without the wrapper its reasonable 
for someone to want freenet to download new jars and prep them for execution 
when the user restarts. 

Why do we _need_ this reduced flexibility?

Ed