Re: How to buy a freerunner
I too have a free runner, i live in the US. I'm willing to let it go cheaply. Paul On Aug 6, 2012 1:03 PM, Rune Gangstø runeg...@gmail.com wrote: If anyone are interested in my freerunner I do not want much for it. 40 Euros + shipping. Is that a fair price? I would like to have some money for it, but you can get it for free from MJ Fahmi. I do not think you have much to loose there as you just have to pay shipping :-) About mine: It is used, a while ago it was used as my daily phone, now it has just been inactive for one year maybe. It works fine, it has installed Android at the moment. There is a protective film in front of the screen, a little worn. This is included in the package. - Original box - charger - battery - 4gb memory card (can be included if interested) - OpenMoko sleve Anything more that I have forgotten? Original stylus is sadly enough broken :-( I am located in Norway and has as mentioned a sister who might be off to Switzerland in near future. Zürich I think it is. If this is close I guess she can hand it over. Anyway. This is an used item but in good condition. Take the free one if you'd like to only pay for the shipping :-) Best regards Rune 2012/8/6 Michael Parchet mparc...@sunrise.ch Le 06.08.12 15:50, Rune Gangstø a écrit : Hello, Yes I am interested but I wold like to know if ithis phone is is still sold by the Switzerland distributor and I wold like to bee sure that you made me not a scam ? how to be sure you are honest ? If I have any problem , the support is there always active, what about the warranty where are you ? Tanks for your answer Best regards mparchet Hi! I have one as well. Make a bid if you are interested. I think my sister is going to Switzerland in a couple of weeks, but I am not completely sure. She has lived there before and still has a boyfriend there. Anyhow. I can ship it by mail as well. If there are anyone interested you can send me an email :-) Best regards Rune 2012/8/6 Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen ad...@leinir.dk On Monday 06 August 2012 15:29:45 Michael Parchet wrote: Hello, I have interested to buy a freeruner I live in switzerland. but I have reed that the freerunner was stopped But one day I have reed that the progect developpement was resumed by another company ? Wat's the exact news about the freerunner ? can I still buy it now ? Tanks for your answer Best regards mparchet Well, i have one sitting upstairs that i'm not using, if that has an interest. Attempted to sell it to someone previously, but that deal fell through. Comes with a zagg screen protector installed and an SD card. It is one of the first batches and has not been buzz-fixed, just to be on the up and up :) -- ..Dan // Leinir.. http://leinir.dk/ Co- existence or no existence - Piet Hein ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing listsupport@lists.openmoko.orghttps://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
MMS in future?
Just curious, are there any plans for implementing MMS for any distro's in the future? Thanks -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: MMS in future?
Links that may be of use If Java is supported on OpenMoko, jMmsLib is Java implementation of binary MMS. http://twit88.com/blog/2009/01/09/java-open-source-mms-library/ I would think that mbuni, which is a MMS gateway probably has some code to decode/encode MMS messages http://www.mbuni.org/ Thanks -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Best User Experiences (SHR)
I have been using SHR for a while, and for the most part I am happy with it. There are a couple of issues I've been trying to resolve. 1. The text messages do not reflect the proper date. I know the correct date is being recorded to the sim because when I pop the sim into another phone I see it. Is there another Phone app that I can install on top of SHR that will make the phone more usable? 2. Is there a way to get google maps on the Freerunner? 3. Can we expect binary message attachments soon? 4. anyone else's headset not detecting properly? Thanks. -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realise his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Meida player.
I find that I get unstable performance sometimes related to access to the sd card (I'm not sure if its because I formated it to ext3). Sometimes, the card becomes unusable until a reboot. Recently, as I mentioned before in another email, the rules,yaml file was updated (from a opkg update, not from flashing the image) and it cause my headset to no longer be detected. So for the time being, I've abandoned the player until this is resolved. I'm still happy I can make phone calls. On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.comwrote: 2009/9/7 CQIT Consulting cq5...@shaw.ca: Went from lite to full with manual instructions. Intone I don't have. But thanks for the advice I will try. Does it play only ogg or also mp3? sometimes probably half of my albums won't import because of hangs on certain files i'm also having major issues with playback - probably 1 in 3 times of hitting play, it freezes and mplayer has to be killed. whether that's an issues with intone or mplayer i don't know, although it seems to have got a lot worse recently so i'd guess intone - that's the only one of the two that's changed ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
SHR headphones not detecting
Anyone else experiencing issues where the phone doesn't react to the plugging in of headphones? I found that when it doesn't detect the head phones, only one ear (the left year) works and the speaker on the phone is also on. This isn't great when commuting on public transit. Sometimes restarting the alsa service gets it to detect the headphones, though I cannot recreate this with great reliability. Any ideas? Is this a hardware or a software issue? (I do hear blips in both ears when plugging them in. Thanks -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: SHR headphones not detecting
Arne, Thank you for your reply. I'm mainly using my headphones with inTone to listen to music on my commute. When the phone is in suspend, if I connect the head phones sometimes the phone detects the event and everything is good, other times it doesn't and that's when I get the odd behavior. Plugging/replugging in the headphones is having little effect on getting it to work. -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: GSM, SD, daily phone
Hey, I recommend using the latest version of qi. I had to do this to get the sd card to work after my buzz fix. I used the sd card method to upgrade my gsm. (note, you gotta wait a long time for it to work, patience with the gsm upgrade. I personally use the latest image version of SHR unstable, I think it's by far the most reliable and usable. In the latest image opkg is a bit buggy (I have to use opkg-cl instead) and manually reinstall all the packages, though I forget the command to do that (it was on the wiki I think) Let me know if that helps. On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Seth Rothenberg s...@pachai.net wrote: My wife's Motorola phone died. I'm not ready to sign a new contract, so I need to push the Free Runner from eternal TEST into PRODUCTION. (Today?) I like SHR (have been using Testing), but it hasn't made phone calls recently, certainly not since it came back from the hardware Buzz Fix. With ATT, it is not recognizing the SIM. And SD card is not working. I just tested the SD in a friend's laptop, and there is an empty file system on it. I understand the GSM upgrade might fix the phone issue, but the safe way to do that is with SD card. (Can I do it with NFS over SSH?) Any advice appreciated. In the meantime I have to stop making fun of my co-worker who shares a cell with his wife, because I am next Thanks Seth ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: sd card?
Make sure that /media/mmcblk0 is not mounted then mount /media/card To prevent it from happening add a line to /etc/udev/mount.*blacklist* /*dev*/*mmcblk0* On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Seth Rothenberg s...@pachai.net wrote: I can't access my SD card. kernel, distribution, bootloader, bootloader version? Sorry, I realized after I sent it and then forgot. Distro is SHR Testing, updated/upgraded yesterday. I think it's the original bootloader. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
SHR Buzz on some networks
It seems that I'm still getting buzz on certain networks/friends phones. I have a A5 with the buzz fix applied. I've lowered the Control.4 to below 100 in the gsmhandset.state file. Can anyone else verify this? Thanks -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Application idea
It'll be all good until you get a call. On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fmwrote: 2009/7/13 Seth Rothenberg s...@pachai.net More sophisticated might be for each car to have a FreeRunner, so the vehicle itself can notify. Even more sophisticated: have the Neo repark the car for you :-) ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Setting app nor opkg update seem to be working
It sounds like a network issue. I would try pinging google.com. If this failes then ensure the nameserver is correct *echo nameserver* xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx /etc/resolv.conf xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the IP address of your router. Peace On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 4:22 AM, Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.plwrote: i would assume it's 2008.8, from the opkg error messages. my fault, i didn't read error messages carefully :) -- Kind Regards Patryk Benderz IT Specialist Linux Registered User #377521 +48 22 538 6292 ERSTE Securities Polska S.A. ul. Królewska 16 Warszawa 00-103 KRS 065121 NIP 526-10-27-638 REGON 011136053 Kapitał akcyjny: 15.500.000 złotych (w pełni opłacony) This message and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the addressee(s). Any publication, transmission or other use of the information by a person or entity other than the intended addressee is prohibited. If you receive this in error please contact the sender and delete the material. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions as a result of the transmission. Email secured by Check Point ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Setting app nor opkg update seem to be working
I recommend using SHR's unstable image, the July 3rd image, as an everyday phone. They just came out with a new build today which I have not yet tested. om2009, though pretty reliable, is lacking in terms of other software you can install to make a nice smart phone. On my phone I have GPS working (Initial TangoGPS may take 15 mins to locate position), GPRS is reliable (not quite stable). I can send and receive text messages and phone calls reliably. It is the most stable distro and usable distro out there that I've tested. Only tweak that I had to do is to low Control.4's value to below 100 in /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state to avoid echos on the other end for calls. http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/ On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Bill Purcell li...@whpiv.net wrote: Yeah, I have 2008.8. I was using the openDNS nameservers last night and thought I pinged google just fine. It was late and can't remember now. I am trying to connect to the FR on my work computer now and it's not going so well. I can't open the settings app like I mentioned in my initial post, so I have to keep tapping the screen every few seconds, which I am not good about doing, so the phone keeps suspending. This wouldn't be that big of a deal except if it goes into suspend mode a few times, it will eventually never wake up and I have to take the battery out to shut it off and then I can get back to work. If I upgraded to 2009 would all my problems go away? Is anyone using this as an everyday phone? I see a lot of jargon about how the openmoko is not ready for everyday use, but I think I'm going to give it a whirl (once I can get things functioning). On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 07:25:29AM -0400, Paul wrote: It sounds like a network issue. I would try pinging google.com. If this failes then ensure the nameserver is correct *echo nameserver* xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx /etc/resolv.conf xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the IP address of your router. Peace On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 4:22 AM, Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote: i would assume it's 2008.8, from the opkg error messages. my fault, i didn't read error messages carefully :) ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Setting app nor opkg update seem to be working
There a lot of nice features that I hope will be introduced to SHR, e.g. contact names in text messages, etc. However, I am very happy that SHR is stable and usable. Does anyone know what it'll take to be able to send receive attachments? On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz wrote: I recommend using SHR's unstable image, the July 3rd image, as an everyday phone. They just came out with a new build today which I have not yet tested. om2009, though pretty reliable, is lacking in terms of other software you can install to make a nice smart phone. there is one feature om2009 has that nobody else implemented yet - SMS delivery report :( i use SHR anyways, quietly hoping that perhaps one day the code gets copied from paroli and used in shr (not really as paroli is in python...) and SMS delivery notify will start working in SHR too :) Petr ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Setting app nor opkg update seem to be working
Bill, If this is totally new to you first update the GSM firmware http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing#uSD-card_Image_.28GTA02_only.29 Then Update Qi http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi#Installation then you just need to flash a rootfs and a kernel image from http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/ The links you've provided below should show you how to flash the rootfs/kernel. On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Bill Purcell li...@whpiv.net wrote: I think I will try out SHR. It looks like http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR will help me with SHR specific stuff but I first need to learn how to flash, which http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_the_Neo_FreeRunner should be a good guide for that. Should I flash everything ... bootloader, kernel, and shr image or can I just flash the shr image over the top? (I probably sound ignorant and that's because I am ... I am less than 24 hrs into openmoko land.) Any advice? I will start a new thread if I start having troubles with the flash and google doesn't answer my questions. Is this the right list for this type of discussion? On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 10:54:55AM -0400, Paul wrote: I recommend using SHR's unstable image ... ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: [FSO] GPS GTA02
I did an update and reinstalled tango gps and things are fixed. Not sure which one did it, Figure I share. 2009/7/3 Sten Kvamme s...@kvamme.se fre 2009-07-03 klockan 11:19 +0200 skrev David Fokkema: On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 21:39 +0200, Sten Kvamme wrote: Getting the position with mdbus gives only 0's mdbus -s org.freedesktop.Gypsy /org/freedesktop/Gypsy org.freedesktop.Gypsy.Position.GetPosition (0, 0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0) but cat /dev/ttySAC1 gives sometimes an empty output and sometimes a fragment of what seems to be a position. 64,N,01156.73895,E,1,09,1.71,25. What's going on? This is not related to the SHR bug, because that one gives no output, IIUC. Are you sure you have a fix and good GPS reception? David I think I have a fix. I'm using an outdoor GPS antenna on my roof. It has worked fine. mdbus -s org.freedesktop.Gypsy /org/freedesktop/Gypsy org.freedesktop.Gypsy.Device.GetFixStatus 3 This shows I have a fix for sure. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: [FSO] GPS GTA02
I recently installed the unstable branch of SHR and it seems that the GPS is not working. Could this be related? 2009/7/2 Sten Kvamme s...@kvamme.se Getting the position with mdbus gives only 0's mdbus -s org.freedesktop.Gypsy /org/freedesktop/Gypsy org.freedesktop.Gypsy.Position.GetPosition (0, 0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0) but cat /dev/ttySAC1 gives sometimes an empty output and sometimes a fragment of what seems to be a position. 64,N,01156.73895,E,1,09,1.71,25. What's going on? ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
SHR Unstable
I wanted to send an email saying that the work being done on SHR Unstable is pretty awesome. True to its name, it's unstable, yet I feel its more usable than om2009's latest build. The biggest advantage that it has over om2009, is that it has a bigger repository of apps that work, e.g. FBreader is unusable in om2009. I recently had the buzz recall performed on my Freerunner and had them install Android. I was pretty disappointed with android because I was not able to send and receive text messages and documentation is scant at best. I was eventually able to send text messages but not receive them. This led me to abandon Android. Right now, SHR Unstable makes receives phone calls/text messages and wakes from suspend fairly reliably. I am unable to get GPS to work and GPRS tends to lock things up. Also the Wifi is iffy. These bugs, though annoying, still allow me to use the phone. I think getting the device to have a stable gprs connection is the next big step. Great work guys. My device is no longer a brick! -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: No space left on device
I would also check to see if you are using u-boot or qi. I think u-boot only support partitions of certain sizes. On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:01 AM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: - to bood from the SD in QT, but it is failing also (trying to mount /var/something ) and stops you could mount the sd card in your pc and modify the fstab of qt, to mount only from sd. besides that, i would have expected it to mount /var ... to tmpfs, not nand (or any physical storage at all). for a minimal system, using the sd card image created to flash the firmware could help -- i think, it starts sshd, too. if you didn't flash the newer calypso firmware, it could be done now, and if you flashed already, it doesn't harm. if you don't like it, you could remove the startup script from (probably) /et/init.d/ and boot from the sd card then. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Review of Om2009 release 4 freerunner recall
So I've been using the latest testing build of Om2009 release 4. This build is the most stable release I've tested to date provided all you use it for is phone calls. Paroli seems fairly stable. I wanted to point out a couple of things. 1. Previously I complained about the buzz issue. I just got an email notifying that my Freerunner has a hardware defect and they are doing a recall to rectify the situation. I have a a5 hardware revision. If this really is the problem, then this complaint may be moot. 2. Parolli occasionally will become unresponsive after a call/sms message (This was listed as a bug) 3. Using GPRS will cause the phone to crash after a couple of minutes. Once I turn this on, I have to restart in order to use the telephone features again 4. The UI seems sluggish, typing, bringing up menus, etc. 5. Using GPS (TangoGPS) causes xglamo to eat cpu. 6. (parolli) Call Log/SMS does not elegantly handle the prepended 1 in phone numbers. This causes contacts without the prepended 1 to not be associated. This release is a good start. When these bugs are ironed out, it'll be a great foundation to build an app library on. -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: [om2009-r4] Warren's Settings Worked for Me (was Re: Om2009 testing release 4)
Please note the hardware revisions A5 and A6 have a hardware defect that is being recalled. To determine your hardware revision http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Hardware#Distinguishing_hardware_revisions I was notified by the vendor I purchased my freerunner from. Figured I would share this info. On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.orgwrote: Am Mo 8. Juni 2009 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa: Joerg, I also tested this by lowering Mono to 72 with alsa-mixer on my A6 OM2009 Test4 after reading Warrens mail, and I now no longer sound like sitting on a motor lawnmower during a call. Maybe this is something different than the Buzz Issue, but it improves sounds for the other party a lot. I've experienced that on some settings the background noise of my environment (=cars / computer fan / air conditioning / ...) is amplified a lot when I'm silent and the person I'm talking to can hear it. It isn't easy to recognice what's the source of the noise but I'd say there's some tunign to do to make this work. So I don't think it's the actual buzz but amplifying the environment. r See my other post wrt EC and calypso noisegate. Basically I'm telling your story there. cheers jOERG ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
SD card mounting issues (om2009)
Hey All I have a sd card with 1 particition (4gb). I booted up and it seems that OM2009 mounts /dev/mmcblk0 to /media/mmcblk0 even though it's not in fstab. I want to mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 to /media/card cause I have my GPS maps and my root home directory (/media/card/bind-home) there. But because /dev/mmcblk0 is already mounted, it prevents the partition to mount. I've removed the /media/mmcblk0 directory and rebooted, and everything seemed to be ok, but next time, everything went back to the original settings. Any ideas? -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: SD card mounting issues (om2009)
Thank you, that seems to do the trick. Does anyone else think this is a bug, since the file system should never try to mount the superblock? On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 6:14 AM, Joachim Ott jo.o...@googlemail.com wrote: 2009/5/31 Paul pault...@gmail.com: Hey All I have a sd card with 1 particition (4gb). I booted up and it seems that OM2009 mounts /dev/mmcblk0 to /media/mmcblk0 even though it's not in fstab. I want to mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 to /media/card cause I have my GPS maps and my root home directory (/media/card/bind-home) there. But because /dev/mmcblk0 is already mounted, it prevents the partition to mount. I've removed the /media/mmcblk0 directory and rebooted, and everything seemed to be ok, but next time, everything went back to the original settings. Try this: add a line to /etc/udev/mount.blacklist /dev/mmcblk0 Then boot once more and check it out. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: om2009 GPS
When I start tango gps it says gps not found. I wonder if this is because I installed gpsd. On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Paul pault...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone gotten the GPS to work in om2009? yes. Install tangogps from the repositories, go outside, start it, wait :) (fso has gps stuff built-in, it startsstops automatically etc etc :) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: om2009 GPS
it seems that this path doesn't exist check that gps chip is online (echo 1 /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron) the file neo1973-pm-gps.0 does not exist and cannot be created. Any ideas? On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Paul pault...@gmail.com wrote: When I start tango gps it says gps not found. I wonder if this is because I installed gpsd. On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Paul pault...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone gotten the GPS to work in om2009? yes. Install tangogps from the repositories, go outside, start it, wait :) (fso has gps stuff built-in, it startsstops automatically etc etc :) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: om2009 GPS
I was able to get it to work only after installing openmoko-agpsui and using it turn the gps on. On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 3:14 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: it seems that this path doesn't exist check that gps chip is online (echo 1 /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron) the file neo1973-pm-gps.0 does not exist and cannot be created. find /sys -name \*gps\* When I start tango gps it says gps not found. I wonder if this is because I installed gpsd. fso-gpsd. fso-gpsd exposes an gpsd compatible interface to legacy applications and handles both communication with fso and request of the gps resource. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Om2009 testing release 4
r, The link to the statefile produces a lot of static and echo. I've tweaked mine to a usable level. It is attached to this email. This file still needs work. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: I myself am using http://www.kurppa.fi/freerunner/config_files/gsmhandset.state - but I guess the one installed by default should work too (not sure if it's the same nowadays..). When on call, AUX changes the speaker volume (20-40-60-80-100%). Using level over 80 might cause some echo. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray gsmhandset.state Description: Binary data ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
om2009 GPS
Has anyone gotten the GPS to work in om2009? Thanks -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Om2009 testing release 4
Can someone please post a usable state file, the edits on the link http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/changeset/4968 were already in the state file. Please help, My friends will not talk to me! On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Paul pault...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Warren. Before I go home and try this out, does anyone know if the echo patch is applied to 2009? Yes it is, it's been in since OM2008.12 or so.. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Om2009 testing release 4
Thanks Warren. Before I go home and try this out, does anyone know if the echo patch is applied to 2009? Thanks. On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Warren Baird wjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.cawrote: I found the message I followed - the suggestion was to basically undo http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/changeset/4968 - I just edited the file, and changed all of the green lines back to the red lines... Warren On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Paul pault...@gmail.com wrote: Can your provide the state file or a link to it? Thanks. On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Warren Baird wjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.ca wrote: I'm using TR4 - I had to tweak the gsmhandset.state file (as mentioned by someone else in a thread - I can't recall where right now - sorry). Without the tweak I was able to receive calls, but the audio quality was horrible - really bad background buzz. I am using u-boot - I upgraded it probably 6 months ago. Don't recall the version off-hand, but I can check if you need me to. Warren On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Chris Jenks ch...@jenks.us wrote: On Tue, 26 May 2009, Alexander Shulgin wrote: Finally it works for me after qi reflash. :) -- Alex I thought it was working too until I got a couple calls. The callers hung up after not being able to hear me at all. Isn't anyone else having this problem? I'm using the latest u-boot, kernel and root in testing, all dated May 21st, on a stock Freerunner, flashed to v11 of the GSM firmware. I suppose I can see if qi fixes it, but every time I try qi I get WSOD. Chris ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Warren Baird - Photographer and Digital Artist http://www.synergisticimages.ca ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Warren Baird - Photographer and Digital Artist http://www.synergisticimages.ca ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Om2009 testing release 4
Can your provide the state file or a link to it? Thanks. On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Warren Baird wjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.cawrote: I'm using TR4 - I had to tweak the gsmhandset.state file (as mentioned by someone else in a thread - I can't recall where right now - sorry). Without the tweak I was able to receive calls, but the audio quality was horrible - really bad background buzz. I am using u-boot - I upgraded it probably 6 months ago. Don't recall the version off-hand, but I can check if you need me to. Warren On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Chris Jenks ch...@jenks.us wrote: On Tue, 26 May 2009, Alexander Shulgin wrote: Finally it works for me after qi reflash. :) -- Alex I thought it was working too until I got a couple calls. The callers hung up after not being able to hear me at all. Isn't anyone else having this problem? I'm using the latest u-boot, kernel and root in testing, all dated May 21st, on a stock Freerunner, flashed to v11 of the GSM firmware. I suppose I can see if qi fixes it, but every time I try qi I get WSOD. Chris ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Warren Baird - Photographer and Digital Artist http://www.synergisticimages.ca ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Call quality - Paroli, SHR, QT Extended
After reading the announcement about Paroli, I decided to give 2009 a try. Difficulty I had with paroli * Call to other people were filled will static and echo. Cycling through volume did not help. This is a deal breaker for me. - Couldn't get illume to make Paroli windowed to access other apps. Perhaps I'm missing something - Didn't get to test reliability because of call quality. QT Extended - Call Quality is not there (echo) - Most reliable of the distro's SHR - Call quality is acceptable - reliability is finicky at best Are my findings normal? -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Myth of Missed Phone calls confirmed!
I will do this when I get home at my linux box. Yay to chances of bricking my $400 phone! On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: If you don't know, you are probably using the old version. See /GSM/Flashing in the wiki for more information on how to upgrade. How would I get this info? What version of GSM firmware do you use? ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Myth of Missed Phone calls confirmed!
can you walk me through that or send me a link? Thanks. On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.comwrote: It isn't related to GSM firmware. Seems like ophonekitd just crashed. Can you check logs? On 5/11/09, Paul pault...@gmail.com wrote: I will do this when I get home at my linux box. Yay to chances of bricking my $400 phone! On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: If you don't know, you are probably using the old version. See /GSM/Flashing in the wiki for more information on how to upgrade. How would I get this info? What version of GSM firmware do you use? ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Good things to report
I am using the May 3, SHR-Testing image, with the default kernal and rootfs. I have made no mods to the image, its just a basic install. Thanks On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 2:15 AM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.auwrote: What: distro version (date) sms app you are using kernel mods you have made to the image Without this, its unlikely you will get a useful reply ... BillK On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 00:23 -0400, Paul wrote: Today, my freerunner performed when I needed it to, this has not happened to me before. I was able to make and receive phone calls and as an added bonus, the GPS worked as well. I am still running into an issue when sending text messages to certain numbers where I get a message from my carrier saying I need to put a valid 10 digit number. I am sending from my contact list and it is listed as a 10 digit number yet the message receive prepends a 1 to the number. Any ideas? -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth! ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Good things to report
Today, my freerunner performed when I needed it to, this has not happened to me before. I was able to make and receive phone calls and as an added bonus, the GPS worked as well. I am still running into an issue when sending text messages to certain numbers where I get a message from my carrier saying I need to put a valid 10 digit number. I am sending from my contact list and it is listed as a 10 digit number yet the message receive prepends a 1 to the number. Any ideas? -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
SHR - Testing (sms bug?)
I recently flashed the testing version of SHR. So far very impressed. I've run into a bug where I try to send a sms message, it appends a 1 to the front of the number (from my contacts list) and then I get a message from my carrier that the 10-digit number is invalid. Any ideas? -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: The myth of missed phone calls (was: OM2008.12 - basic usage instructions?)
I would like to see with a release of a distro, a list (and links to) all the images to recreate the build exactly. Right now there are way too many variables, what version of Qi, bootloader, etc. This will enable people to recreate, exactly, the desired distro in question. On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dkwrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 11:08:14PM -0400, Paul wrote: The distro I've used that missed phone calls the most was FSO, zhone was pretty unstable. But I have missed calls on SHR and OM2008.12. OM2008.12 has terrible echo and is unusable last I tried. If there were new patches since Feb, I'll be out of date. I had to get a real phone because I couldn't use my freerunner. There was a GSM firmware bug such that you would miss all calls during the first suspend after a reboot or power on[1]. It will happen when the firmware is moko10 or older and your kernel is older than 2009-02-22. Later kernels include a workaround[2] for the firmware bug and the moko11 firmware[3] from 2009-02-24 fixes the bug. [1] https://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2009-February/008497.html [2] https://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2009-February/008832.html [3] https://people.openmoko.org/joerg/calypso_moko_FW/moko11/ -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: The myth of missed phone calls (was: OM2008.12 - basic usage instructions?)
The distro I've used that missed phone calls the most was FSO, zhone was pretty unstable. But I have missed calls on SHR and OM2008.12. OM2008.12 has terrible echo and is unusable last I tried. If there were new patches since Feb, I'll be out of date. I had to get a real phone because I couldn't use my freerunner. On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.orgwrote: Am Mo 20. April 2009 schrieb Daniel Willmann: On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 21:51:09 -0400 Paul pault...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Daniel Willmann dan...@totalueberwachung.de wrote: I had to clearify that if there still are problems with incoming calls (which I honestly don't believe) then they are not immediately noticable. While this may be true with your current carrier and phone usage, this is far from the case with my phone. Part of the problem Openmoko as a community is facing is adequate testing. With something as complex as worldwide telephony system, it's the biggest detriment to Openmoko's success. I'm curious, what distro are you using? I would be pretty surprised if carrier differences are having that effect. I second this /j ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Solar Moko Idea
Brad, How much does the openmoko need to run in standby? I am pretty sure I have been able to charge my battery using only 100mA, it did take a while. Then I see devices like the following which produces up to 9.5v at 100mA which tells me that it may be possible to charge the openmoko. http://www.mountainwindandsun.com/sili16635.html My intention is not to replace the need for conventional chargers, simply add in a feature where if I'm outdoors in the sun a lot, I would need to charge my phone less. for instance, if I am on a beach on vacation, it would be cool to have my phone last the full day instead of stopping after 4 hours of usage, provided I stop every now and then to swim, etc. -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Android-Image for Neo 1973 (GTA01Bv4)
Here are some links http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Android Beta 3 release http://freerunner.android.koolu.com/release-files On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Torsten Schlabach tschlab...@gmx.netwrote: Hi all! I was glad to read this: http://benno.id.au/blog/2008/11/02/android-on-neo1973 But I wonder if there would be a downloadable image anywhere? Regards, Torsten ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Solar Moko Idea
Has anyone given any thought about embedding a solar panel into the back cover of the OpenMoko devices? I'm certain other modifications are necessary. This is an area I am interested in helping out with. Anyone have expertise in this area to see if this is even doable? Thanks. -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: [OM2008.12] How to fix Echo problem?
Kristian, What distro are you using? For SHR/FSO (I think) you can follow the directions here http://shr.bearstech.com/trac/wiki/Tweaks For everything else, the fixes involve lowering the mic volume/speaker volume. -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: FSO Milestone 5
Thanks for all the replies, I have downloaded the files and will reflash tonight. I'll let you know how it goes. On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Simon Comeau Martel si...@comeau.infowrote: My install of FSO M5 is not on a SD card. As I said, all my problems where related to the fact I was using Qi, instead of uBoot. -- Simon Comeau Martel si...@comeau.info https://comeau.info yves mahe wrote: I think the problem arise when you try to boot FSO M5 from SD. The filesystem is mounted read-only and X don't start. Unfortunately, it seems that right now, nobody has a patch to correct that. See also http://n2.nabble.com/Freesmartphone.org-Milestone-5-%27Calling-All-Stations%27-Release-tp2261004p2268651.html Simon Comeau Martel wrote: I had that problem. It was happening to me when I booted with Qi. Booting from uBoot (from NOR) solved the problem. After that first 'successful' boot, the GUI start if I boot from Qi, but then I get other problems. ie: GSM doesn't work. Booting from uBoot solve the problem. I have no idea why that would be happening. It's like if uBoot is doing some kind of magic. Milestone 4 was working fine with Qi. And FSO-testing from 2009-01-09 was also. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
FSO Milestone 5
Has anyone gotten milestone 5 to work? I've tried 5 of the rootfs images and all I get is a prompt. I keep rebooting, yet same thing. If you have, can you send me the exact names of the images you used? Thanks. -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: battery on Qtopia 4.4.2
I can speak for OM2008.x FSO and SHR. FSO and SHR have basically the same battery life. Without going to suspend you'll have 8+ hours, in suspend you'll get the 48 ours (72 is pushing it, but it could happen). I currently am experiencing issues making and receiving calls reliably with SHR and FSO. OM2008.x has fairly reliable call making and text message capabilities, however the call quality needs improvement. I cannot speak for Debian. On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:51 AM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: with debian/fso when using suspend i get usually 48 to 72 hours standby time (but i very seldom make or receive calls). anyway, even qtopia should have suspend, or am i wrong here? ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: battery on Qtopia 4.4.2
About QT Extended. Anyone experiencing the Echo Bug? Is there a resolution to it without turning down the volume? Thanks. -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
SHR - ppp-generic (GPRS) buggy?
Just verified that removing the ppp-generic module resolves a lot of the issues for making the phone a usable phone. Can anyone else confirm? To enable GPRS echo ppp-generic /etc/modutils/ppp-generic update-modules modprobe ppp_generic Thanks. -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: SHR - ppp-generic (GPRS) buggy?
I apologize for all the confusion. I am hearing reports that SHR is being used for a daily phone, receiving/sending calls/sms reliably. I thought perhaps it was the fact that I was loading the ppp-generic module, after unloading it, the phone worked better for a while, but it is back to hanging on the receipt of a call. -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Once a whiner
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 7:48 AM, Nicolas Dufresne nicolas.dufre...@gmail.com wrote: I had the same opinion until I've tried SHR. Sure SHR is not complete yet, but I've used it as a phone for 3 weeks from now, and it's quite reliable. The distro proves the quality of Framework combine with Enligntment based applications. I think we are progressing, but I also tend to agree that it would be nice to focus on less tools and less distros to gain high quality phone software like phone call, SMS, Contacts, Calendar and Alarms. Can I ask if you enabled gprs? -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: GTA02 is now an expensive brick
I am trying it out now. The distro seems to be more responsive (contacts, etc). I am trying to figure out how to release calls, one would think it's done by pressing the release button. Also, if I answer a call before it starts vibrating, it seems to vibrate forever. I have yet to test the text messages. On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 19:42, Paul pault...@gmail.com wrote: With SHR, it kept hanging on the receipt of text messages/phone calls. Have you encountered this problem and if so, how did you resolve it? I'm only opkg upgrading on unstable. quickdev is quickly fixing many bugs in libframeworkd-phonegui-efl, about which you are talking - now i don't have problems with smses. Only problem which i can see is non working service data (USSD) window, but right now other distributions are not supporting USSD at all ;) ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: GTA02 is now an expensive brick
Yes, I've done the update. I downloaded the images from here http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/ and got the latest rootfs and UImage files. I have ATT, perhaps this bug is carrier specific? -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Once a whiner
I just reflashed with the latest images from unstable. I can make phone calls kinda reliably, until it crashes. Receiving phone calls kinda works, although once I do, I can't release the phone call and the phone starts throwing errors. Am I doing something wrong? Are you guys enabling GPRS on the phone? I have that module enabled so I'm not sure if that's causing the problem. Thanks. -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: [2008.12] ssh instability
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote: and everything worked fine after that, so i figure it's the networking on the ubuntu side. any suggestions how to fix it? I'm pretty sure it's not on the ubuntu/debian side. -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: GTA02 is now an expensive brick
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Marc Rios marcrio...@gmail.com wrote: Hi to all, All I wanted to say is that I'm working perfectly with FR. It's my daya by day phone and works very well for me. I've been working with it one month and with QTOPIA works very well ;) Can you provide details on the distro (specific versions) you are using? Any modifications? I tried Qtopia extended and there is the echo problem to contend with. Thanks. -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: GTA02 is now an expensive brick
The echo is on the other party's end. I can relate, who wants to hear themselves echo along with weird buzzing? After so many complaints from people I call or call me, I cannot in good conscience continue to use this phone. On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Marc Rios marcrio...@gmail.com wrote: I'm with QTOPIA extended. Which is the echo problem?? Who listen the echo? The sound is not perfect at all but is functional. Functional is different from usable -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: GTA02 is now an expensive brick
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com wrote: Install shr-unstable, apply FSO patch on echo and play with alsa state files. Nothing more. With SHR, it kept hanging on the receipt of text messages/phone calls. Have you encountered this problem and if so, how did you resolve it? BTW, SHR has the best quality phone calls of all the distros I've encountered. The power consumption is also OK. What is keeping me from using it is the fact that it crashes on receiving phone calls/text messages. OM2008.x receives Text Messages and Phone calls OK, but the audio quality is not acceptable. Also, the battery life is a bit short. This of course is applying patches to both SHR and OM2008.12 -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: [2008.12] ssh instability
I can also confirm this. On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 5:26 AM, Joachim Ott jo.o...@googlemail.com wrote: 2009/1/7 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com i'm having a lot of problems with my ssh connection over usb - it usually takes several attempts to connect, and will hang mid-way through operations very often sometimes un-plugging and re-plugging usb will sort it, sometimes leaving it for a minute or two, or suspending and resuming. sometimes it takes a reboot is this a known problem with the release, or more likely some specific problem here? it worked great with 2008.9, i never had a single problem Does ssh -v r...@neo 2ssh.log give you a hint, when the error occurs? ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: [2008.12] ssh instability
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Marc Rios marcrio...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Can it be maybe when the phone is suspended? It pass to me some times, but if you disable the suspend it goes correct... Nope, the phone doesn't go into suspend. -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: [2008.12] ssh instability
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote: when i was using it last night, nothing would resurrect the connection until i re-booted the laptop, then it worked fine again. for a short time I'm using Kubuntu 8.10. When the connection hung, I would kill the window (Konsole). I would have to reset the USB connection before it worked again. A reboot was unnecessary. -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: GTA02 is now an expensive brick
I've found the gps quite nice, it takes some work to get it working. It is doable. I would hold off selling it until Koolu releases their android port. Their beta is already almost on par with 2008.12. I think if they resolved the calypso issue and improved audio quality, the Freerunner would be a viable phone. On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Craig Woodward wo...@rochester.rr.com wrote: Ian Darwin i...@darwinsys.com wrote: You accuse me of mincing words. Let's see if you'll stand by your words. If you really feel the device is that worthless, sell it to me for $10.00. Final offer. = Ok: A Learn to crop your replies... B My point wasn't to LOSE more money by selling to you for $10. My point in selling now is to try to not get screwed a second time when OM drops support for it, like they did for the GTA01 last month. C If you think it's such a great phone, why not buy it from me for full price? Clearly if it's so great, you'll have no problem re-selling it. Didn't think so... I didn't buy this phone as a gadget to work on for months that MIGHT eventually make a nice GPS. For half the price I could have gotten a real open source kit and the parts to put together something like this, minus GSM. Something with a REAL SDK, fully open and STABLE source, and support from the company that sold it to me. I bought this to use as a phone that I could get into, add to, and modify if I wanted to. That's how FIC marketed it, as a consumer ready device, open source, with MAYBE a small power issue in that it wasn't supporting stand by mode. OM wasn't it's own entity, or if it was that wasn't made clear. Now FIC has shifted ALL responsibility off to OM. OM says they're not focused on the GTA02, but are marketing to future phones, like the GTA03. They've also completely dropped support for the GTA01. And core functionality on ALL Neos, like making and receiving calls and SMS, is still unreliable. The FreeRunner wasn't marketed as a prototype device. It was marketed as consumer ready, and it's not there, and doesn't appear to be getting there any time soon, if at all. Saying OM never said the software was ready doesn't change how it was marketed, or the fact that OM was initially formed and funded by FIC to develop software for it's phone. I'm just pissed off that I spent $400 on a device that was supposed to be my next phone, and 8 months later it's still sitting in a box because it's not usable as a normal daily phone. And it doesn't help that people keep saying the FreeRunner was marketed as a development platform, when it clearly wasn't. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: [2008.12] ssh instability
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote: right. how do i reset the usb connection? sudo ifdown usb0 sudo ifup usb0 Note I've done the first step in this URL to define usb0 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking#Debian.2C_Ubuntu_and_others -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: GTA02 is now an expensive brick
Then he would be out 390 bucks, right? On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Ian Darwin i...@darwinsys.com wrote: You accuse me of mincing words. Let's see if you'll stand by your words. If you really feel the device is that worthless, sell it to me for $10.00. Final offer. -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: GTA02 is now an expensive brick
Why wasn't this discussion held prior to releasing the Freerunner? Is the Freerunner a prototype? -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: GTA02 is now an expensive brick
Here's an unorthodox approach. Have you tried removing the battery and plugging in the USB into a computer and the OM? This brings up the Boot for me. Once the boot menu is showing, put the battery in, and then cycle through the menu for two to three mins before attempting to boot (choose the boot option from menu). I think this gives the battery time to charge up a bit before trying to boot. If it fails, just cycle it through the boot menu a bit longer. -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Boot hangs at splash when USB cable plugged in (GTA02v5)
I can also confirm this behavior, on a Dell Laptop (XP), Desktop (Kubuntu), and Toshiba Laptop (Kubuntu). On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Nathan Kinkade n...@nkinka.de wrote: 2008/12/25 Sargun Dhillon xbmodder+openm...@gmail.com: On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Nathan Kinkade n...@nkinka.de wrote: My Freerunner hangs on the splash screen forever when I boot (or reboot) while the USB cable is plugged in. I can boot fine from the Boot option of both the NOR and NAND boot menu, so I don't suspect a faulty u-boot environment. I found the following ticket, but it seems to indicate that it was an issue for only the GTA01: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/874 When it hangs, I can login with a serial console and simply issue a boot command to continue. To recover from the hang I either have to remove the battery or login and power it off (neo1973 power-off). Could this be related to the above (now closed) ticket, or is this maybe expected bahavior and I just never knew it? I'm using a u-boot dated 2008-12-20 (gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin). Saludos, Nathan What's on the other end of the USB cable? A Dell laptop computer running Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex. I have the same behaviour when plugged into a desktop computer, also a Dell. Nathan ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Not supporitng GTA01? [Was: [openmoko-announce] Om 2008.12 Beyond]
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Markus Fischer i...@flyingfischer.ch wrote: ...at least the NEO 1973 will for sure be a collectors item! Why? I got a drawer full of non functional hardware. How much do you think I could get for that? OpenMoko was and still is for developpers purpose. The Freerunner was marketed as the Consumer Ready Version with the software to complete the readiness soon to follow. The 1973 was marketed as the same way (Hence the developer's box). Point in case, Openmoko needs to stabilize the framework on ALL their devices. The community has provided awesome apps, Midori, Minimo, Tango, Navit, FBReader just to name a few that I use. FIC needs to fulfill their promise of creating a stable platform so the community doesn't die. -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Other possible Echo Cause
I made the switch to SHR to test out how things are. The echo problem is resolved with the following patch http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1486414|a1518726 Now there was the annoying buzz to rectify. This worked perfectly for me. http://www.mail-archive.com/support@lists.openmoko.org/msg00564.html On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 12:21 PM, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: On Monday 15 December 2008, Paul wrote: It's possible, but the buzz is within the voice frequency range. If we could characterise the buzz sufficiently it may be possible to remove it by applying a suitable digital filter in the CPU, but a hardware fix is certainly preferable. I was thinking a software noise gate would be preferable since it requires less computing. Also, anyone tried sound proofing the mic with sound insulating foam to prevent the sound from traveling through the phone? There's a noise gate in the Wolfson chip, but I never managed to get it working. The functions in the GSM chipset sound like a noise gate in operation too. A better low-computing method might be to monitor the GSM output and mute the mic if there is significant signal there. This approach is used by some VoIP handsets ad is very effective at preventing echo, but can be awkward as the other end can't hear when you interrupt them ;-) The mic has rubber around it which seals the gap between the mic and the case. I haven't tried modifying this. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: FSO Android (was: Sad Story)
Wolfgang, Thank you for your reply. I now understand the situation better. My previous impression was that FSO and OM had a significantly different code base and not terribly compatible with each other. In any case, I am still hopeful for OM. The usability team, I felt, was exactly what OM needed to bring the phone closer to being a phone. But alas and alack. -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
SHR - Cannot receive SMS
Anyone know how I would go about finding out why my SMS hangs on receiving an SMS? When it happens I can't even read my messages. -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Other possible Echo Cause
If you mute either the mic or the earpiece there is no echo. If you use the wired headset there is no echo. The level of echo is affected by both the mic gain and the earpiece level. Using the speakerphone gives much more echo, which is expected because the volume is higher and the speaker is close to the mic. Thank you for confirming this. It's possible, but the buzz is within the voice frequency range. If we could characterise the buzz sufficiently it may be possible to remove it by applying a suitable digital filter in the CPU, but a hardware fix is certainly preferable. I was thinking a software noise gate would be preferable since it requires less computing. Also, anyone tried sound proofing the mic with sound insulating foam to prevent the sound from traveling through the phone? -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Sad Story
Seeing the responses to criticism, it is clear why OpenMoko is where it is today. If a significant portion of the community is frustrated at the status of this project, the best course of action is to address the concerns of the community. Does telling people to buy an iphone accomplish anything but lower your social standing on this list? The main reason of why Open Source works is because people are able to criticize. When the criticisms are taken into account, real progress can be had. We as a community were warned of the alpha status of the phone. What we expected was that the community and company would work hand in hand to create a viable phone solution. Yet, it is clear that the resolve of the Company is waning and the rest of the community is left holding the bag. Now we have people blaming us because we are holding the bag. Just because a project is Open Source, doesn't guarantee its success. We have a lot of people working hard to resolve issues, yet we haven't achieved our goal. We need to refocus our goals and objectives to create a working phone. Passing the buck to FSO is passing the torch to someone else. This is what OM has done. I'm sure the majority of hardware owners are awaiting Google Android. -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: SHR - GPRS
Thank you for your response. I honestly do not know where to begin. I am not receiving an error, it's just not connecting. I did try the internet and it is not connecting. I downloaded a copy of fso-config-util.py, I am uncertain if there is an official version of it. Is there an official howto for SHR? Has anyone gotten to work with ATT? Thanks On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 2:36 PM, D. Gassen dirk.gas...@web.de wrote: Hm, I'm on FSO (somewhat close to FSO, I'm a bit scared to update ;-)) but I get the same error message in the logs. However, gprs works fine with me (T-Mobile, USA). Have you checked if GPRS is working despite this error message? Dirk On 15.12.2008, at 14:16, Paul wrote: I know there are reports that GPRS does work with SHR. I've download the fso-config-util.py script and edited my apn settings, although for cingular/att, there is another number its supposed to dial but no place to put it in the script. When I hit connect, it just says, release. Any advice? Thanks in advance. -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: pointless ranting was: Re: Sad Story
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 5:08 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: by actually _READING_ mails for starters! the misunderstanding with the term gta03 has been corrected several times already! if you refuse to check archives and to read mails and instead insist on perpetuating your misstatement, nobody can help you! Then this link be updated. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA03 your shouting at andy's because he refuses to accept your attitude (see above) is absolutely not helping. If I point out flaws about the focus of Openmoko, then I'm shouting? If I offer suggestions on what objectives the team should be working towards that's the wrong attitude? If I feel Openmoko is heading toward the wrong path, I should just clam up and be a team player? Re-read my emails. They are a critique of how things could be better. It's clear, I am far from alone. I have yet to villainize anyone yet. Constructive criticism can only be constructive, if both sides are willing to allow for improvements. -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Other possible Echo Cause
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 1:32 AM, Lon Lentz lon.le...@gmail.com wrote: Is the echo still an issue when people are using the earbud headphone/mics that come with the phone? That is an excellent point. I do not believe the earbuds work on mine (Om2008.9), I tried it a while back. How do I get this working? -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Sad Story
My experience, as I'm sure with many other people, with my freerunner has been frustrating most of the time. To say, its all on the user is wrong. Granted the community could be better, however, its hard to contribute when everything is so fragmented. For instance, about the echo problem, one of the developers for OpenMoko stated Since there are different hw versions out there (a5, a6, a7), it's impossible to provide one alsa state file that suits all models. Wait a sec. If the developers know the issues, What's preventing the if statement that would prevent hundreds of hours of tweaking, testing, and frustration for the community? Let's be honest here FIC is making a pretty penny off of OpenMoko, using very old hardware selling at a premium price (2.5g not even EDGE). Yet we are OK with that. What the community DOES expect is basic support, for starters a phone that makes calls without echoing, doesn't drop connection and sends and receives text messages reliably as the Number 1 priority. If I'm not mistaken, the majority of the working code in OpenMoko is from Trolltech. In addition FSO has a very nice distro and the Freerunner isn't even its main device. Yet more than 1 year AFTER the release of the 1974, we still have MAJOR issues from a basic install of Om. Then we read stuff like this. OM is moving more focus to gta03 now, so my current resource for qtopia is fairly limited. It becomes evident that FIC and Openmoko cares less about creating reliably working software then it does about moving products. (not blaming the developers here, they get pressure) Follow the next link and I think I've made my case. http://www.cafepress.com/openmoko_inc Now with that said, I will be posting online my howtos including scripts to make a kinda stable variant of FDOM soon. Been too busy reflashing my phone. On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 1:28 AM, Karthik Kumar karthikku...@gmail.com wrote: You should have fixed the GTA02 months back, when you released it. Instead, you people are working on GTA03/Neo Whatever. It proves that you don't care about the community, You just care about the bunch of people who might want to buy your upcoming phones, who sponsor your own selfish causes and suffer while you are working on GTA04. -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Testing build [OM 2008.x]
I apologize for the mix-up, I have updated the subject line. As to the dates of the test builds, The test builds affected would be from 12/1. On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 6:06 AM, Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 09 December 2008, Paul wrote: I have tried out the testing image several times installing it several ways, even flashing the latest image. Has anyone had any success with them? These images do not seem to be able to connect to the gsm network. Need to know which distro you're asking about as FSO, SHR and OM (2008.x) all have testing images. Convention has it you should stick the distro(s) you're asking about in the subject line. It also helps to use the date of the image as the testing builds are updated daily, and breakages may only apply to certain dates. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: GSM no longer registers on GTA02 - how to troubleshoot?
I received the same behavior when I updated to the latest testing images. I revered to the old 2008.9 images and things are working again. On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hi everybody, | | I have been using Freerunner as a daily phone for some months now, and | yesterday it suddenly stopped registering the GSM network. It was | working fine in the morning, sending/receiving SMS, making phone | calls, etc., then in the afternoon suddenly the phone portion was | completely dead. I restarted qpe (running Om2008.9) a few times, then | rebooted the phone, pulled out the battery and SIM and reseated | everything, etc., but got nowhere. When I got home, I reflashed a | couple of known good kernel/rootfs combinations, but got nowhere. I | even tried an FSO image, since it uses a different phoneserver, but it | didn't work either. I put my SIM into my old dumbphone (which is a | little bit broken, in that it only works on speakerphone) and it was | able to register with no problems. | | How can I troubleshoot GSM registration to see at what point the | process is failing? I would hate for this to be a hardware problem, | but I don't know what to do when reflashing doesn't work. | | I do have another issue, which I don't think is related: my NAND | u-boot seems to be borked. Whenever I boot the GTA02 without booting | it from the NOR u-boot, I get a scrambled image on the screen and the | device is frozen. Often, the scrambled image that appears is whatever | was in the framebuffer right before powering off. If I boot into NOR | u-boot, I can boot into the OS fine, but if I just try to turn it on | without holding down the AUX button or try booting into NAND u-boot, I | get a freeze. I've tried reflashing u-boot several times, but it | doesn't help. I download u-boot from downloads.openmoko.org and the | md5 sum of my u-boot image is 40b8f908649f78e7d70358239da96f98. Is | this a known good image? Why would u-boot fail after reflashing? Your U-Boot environment can have some issue, that's why the problem behaviour is so sticky. You are into trying to get a USB serial connection on ttyACM0 on your host and meddling from there. About your main problem not much idea except confirm the SIM still works on another phone I guess. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkk+ne0ACgkQOjLpvpq7dMo0nwCeJFFUGrQUWaU9ENryQeq74ZEw xC8AniEvrMspCUSAoOz+CF8D4XZRtewu =kbxa -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Testing build
I have tried out the testing image several times installing it several ways, even flashing the latest image. Has anyone had any success with them? These images do not seem to be able to connect to the gsm network. -- Paul Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
OM2008.X testing - Turning off suspend
Has anyone tried testing the directions here? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Improving_user_experience#Weekly_update_11.2F23_.7E_11.2F29.2C_Nov I've noticed that the settings app doesn't work. Because of this I cannot turn off the suspend, which means working on the neo is extremely frustrating. Any ideas? -- Paul Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Crostalk of voice input and output in openmoko FreeRunner
I can send you some tomato juice, but the bug still exists. I am trying to pin down the details. Perhaps some package got updated somewhere? I also hear that there are different hardware versions which require different gsmhandset.state files. Any more info? Thanks. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Alejandro Alonso Fernández [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uooou!, tahnks! but I prefer tomato juice!!! :D 2008/11/24 Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alejandro, Thank you, my preliminary tests are turning up good so far, I need to call a couple of other people on other networks to finalize the testing. Check your email for me as I will be contacting you about your beers if all goes well. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Alejandro Alonso Fernández [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, that patch only works in FSO and SHR, in OM2008 things are a bit different but you can do this http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-October/033312.html (I tried and it works!!! ^^) 2008/11/24 Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will send him a case of beer (or monetary equivalent if not feasible). My conditions: I will need to test the patch and verify that it works. It needs to work on OM 2008.9 preferably but I will settle for FSO. /usr/lib/python2.5/site- packages/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/unsolicited.py The file isn't on my Freerunner OM 2008.9 (November build). Is this a FSO only thing? Before I reflash, what are the solutions for OM, if any? On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Bobby Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 2:08 AM, polz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 23 November 2008 23:33:59 Paul wrote: elided P.S. if anyone from Openmoko(the company) is reading this, someone should send Ainulindale on #openmoko a case of beer or something. Hear, hear!! ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray -- Paul Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray -- Paul Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: NeoRndis.inf not working.
Which driver are you selecting? On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 1:24 PM, abatrour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey everyone. I'm having trouble connecting my phone to the computer. I plug it into my xp machine and it comes up telling there is new hardware, I select the driver and it tells me the driver isn't correct. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/NeoRndis.inf-not-working.-tp1577564p1577564.html Sent from the Openmoko Support mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Crostalk of voice input and output in openmoko FreeRunner
Alejandro, Thank you, my preliminary tests are turning up good so far, I need to call a couple of other people on other networks to finalize the testing. Check your email for me as I will be contacting you about your beers if all goes well. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Alejandro Alonso Fernández [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, that patch only works in FSO and SHR, in OM2008 things are a bit different but you can do this http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-October/033312.html (I tried and it works!!! ^^) 2008/11/24 Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will send him a case of beer (or monetary equivalent if not feasible). My conditions: I will need to test the patch and verify that it works. It needs to work on OM 2008.9 preferably but I will settle for FSO. /usr/lib/python2.5/site- packages/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/unsolicited.py The file isn't on my Freerunner OM 2008.9 (November build). Is this a FSO only thing? Before I reflash, what are the solutions for OM, if any? On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Bobby Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 2:08 AM, polz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 23 November 2008 23:33:59 Paul wrote: elided P.S. if anyone from Openmoko(the company) is reading this, someone should send Ainulindale on #openmoko a case of beer or something. Hear, hear!! ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray -- Paul Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Neo die?
Is this a haiku? On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 1:57 PM, GreyCardinal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not ideas? boot from flash normal how from ssh check lcd-controller? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Neo-die--tp1502663p1558401.html Sent from the Openmoko Support mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Battery killed?
Have you tried doing Nor Boot with the battery in? On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Joachim Ott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like I have killed the battery of my gat02v6. While I was working on the PC and having the FR laying besides (running Om2007.2), I noticed the red LED flashing once in a second. I took out the battery because I couldn't reboot. I booted from flash (currently with the newest FSO), all looked normal. When the system was up, I plugged in USB, the screen went black and the red LED began flashing like above. I took out the battery, measured and it showed only 2.99V. Then I attached external power, booted Om2007.2 from SD card, when it was up I connected USB, removed external power and put in the battery - shortly after the screen went black bla bla rhabarbar... With the battery from the other FR (fully loaded, shows 4.35V) everything is fine again. Have I killed the battery by over-using the device? I boot about 10 times a day, from flash or SD, playing with GSM, GPS and WLAN. Is it possible to charge that battery ever again? This are the last messages before Om2007.2 died (the last try from above): Nov 12 02:00:36 om-gta02 user.info kernel: usb0: full speed config #1: 500 mA, Ethernet Gadget, using CDC Ethernet Nov 12 02:00:36 om-gta02 user.err kernel: power_supply bat: driver failed to report `voltage_now' property Nov 12 02:00:37 om-gta02 user.err kernel: power_supply bat: driver failed to report `voltage_now' property Nov 12 02:00:37 om-gta02 user.info kernel: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): usb0: link becomes ready Nov 12 02:00:45 om-gta02 user.err kernel: power_supply bat: driver failed to report `voltage_now' property Nov 12 02:00:46 om-gta02 user.debug kernel: modem wakeup interrupt Nov 12 02:00:46 om-gta02 user.err kernel: power_supply bat: driver failed to report `voltage_now' property Nov 12 02:00:47 om-gta02 user.debug kernel: usb0: no IPv6 routers present Nov 12 02:01:37 om-gta02 user.warn kernel: AR6000 disconnected Nov 12 02:01:46 om-gta02 local0.info /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[1394]: gsm0710muxd.c:609:pseudo_device_read(): Logical channel 1 for (null) closed Nov 12 02:23:27 om-gta02 syslog.info syslogd started: BusyBox v1.11.1 Nov 12 02:23:27 om-gta02 user.notice kernel: klogd started: BusyBox v1.11.1 (2008-08-05 02:00:09 CEST) Nov 12 02:23:27 om-gta02 user.notice kernel: Linux version 2.6.24 ( [EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 4.1.2) #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 28 01:48 The driver failed to report `voltage_now' property is because at that time it was on external power. No messages were logged after I put in the battery. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: GSM Dropping
Thank you Alastair, I believe the latest OM version is 2008.9, which was released well before the bug was patched. I am unable to find the daily builds of OM, are they available? I have been unable to get gsm0710muxd working properly yet, I believe this is necessary for me to install minicom in order to input the AT commands. So I'm guessing inputing AT%SLEEP=2 is a simple solution, I need to get to where I can input the command. On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Alastair Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Paul wrote: I know there is a bug about the GSM network dropping for certain carriers which is supposed to be patched but not released. Has anyone found a workaround for this? If you mean bug #1024 the workaround is to prevent deep sleep of the GSM modem using AT%SLEEP=2. I think most of the distros now include a patch to detect frequent reregistration and issue this command if it is found. They may reenable deep sleep some time later in case the problem has gone away. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
GSM Dropping
I know there is a bug about the GSM network dropping for certain carriers which is supposed to be patched but not released. Has anyone found a workaround for this? Thanks. -- Paul Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: I think my phone died (or maybe the battery?)
Try this. Put the battery in. Hold down the Aux button and plug in the usb cable into a computer. You should see a boot menu. Try booting from there. On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 4:43 AM, Rene Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My phone isn't booting up any more, and I have no idea what I may have done to cause this. The last thing that I had done with it was to plug it into my computer's USB port to charge it over night (the battery had already died before that). I didn't really stick around to see if it booted up completely. When I got up the next day, and went to get my phone, it was still stuck in the splash screen instead of FDOM (which is what I have installed.) I tried to shut it down with the power button, but that didn't work, so I unplugged it and pulled out the battery to turn it off. Now it doesn't boot at all, even when it's plugged directly into a wall outlet. Does anyone know what might be going on or how to fix it? Rene -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (UW-Oshkosh email address), http://rhorn.kuiki.net - Pictures from me, family, and friends SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org Jay Leno in response to Colin Powell's deadline for an Iraqi constitution: They can take ours. After all, we aren't using it... ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Paul Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Distro Reviews
I finally received my Freerunner and it's been exciting. I am trying to use the Freerunner as my primary phone. My First goal is to start with a stable phone distro. One where I can make/receive calls, send and receive text messages. The Qtopia build seems to be OK, however, there is that echo issue. Qtopia does seem to be removed from a lot of the feature developments for the FreeRunner. I have tried a couple of the distros out there and the Qtopia one seems to be the most stable. I was wondering, which distros have the Echo bug resolved? Also, is the debian distro stable? I am a debian/kubuntu user so I definitely would like to use debian provided it can provide a stable phone for me. I need to buy a new sd card from the sound of it though. Thanks. -- Paul Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Distro Reviews
About Debian. I have the 512 meg card, could I get started on debian with that until my new sd card comes it? Also, is there an echo with debian? -- Paul Email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
