Re: how to accept self-signed certificate

2016-09-07 Thread David Woolley

On 07/09/16 14:19, Pospíšil Jiří wrote:


I run*Pidgin 2.10.12*(libpurple 2.10.12) on Ubuntu 16.04 for connecting
to Cisco Jabber

How can I force pingin to accept self-signed certificate.

Now I get that massage:

"unable to validate certificate, the certificate for 10.13.222.53 could
not be validated. The certificate chain present is invalid."


Whilst I haven't tried it for Pidgin, in general you install it in the 
certificate store that the program uses.
 
seems to cover your case.


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how to accept self-signed certificate

2016-09-07 Thread Pospíšil Jiří
Hi,

I run Pidgin 2.10.12 (libpurple 2.10.12) on Ubuntu 16.04 for connecting to 
Cisco Jabber

How can I force pingin to accept self-signed certificate.

Now I get that massage:

"unable to validate certificate, the certificate for 10.13.222.53 could not be 
validated. The certificate chain present is invalid."


thx  J.


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Re: Suggestion for discussion: Support for the Trillian native protocol

2016-09-07 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Alex!

On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 23:03:00 -0400
pid...@alexoren.com wrote:

> On 06-09-2016 04:04, Shlomi Fish wrote:
> > I disagree. "Sod off" means that the pidgin devs are not interested in this
> > functionality and that it won't be supported or accepted. "Patches welcome"
> > implies that this functionality is desirable, but not a high priority to the
> > core developers, but who may still support making it a part of pidgin.  
> 
> Shlomi, when I started sending out the "suggestion for discussion" emails I
> stated that the intent was to solicit opinions and discussion on the merits
> of the ideas.
> 
> I am not familiar with the vernacular, so I'll trust your interpretation.

Thanks!

> 
> > The Pidgin project does not have infinite resources and cannot implement all
> > the features that people want. One option for you would be to set up a
> > bounty or a kickstarter/indiegogo/etc. campaign or whatever for that.  
> 
> Or maybe even trying to write a plugin.
>

True, that's what "Patches welcome" may imply.
 
> Unfortunately Pidgin development seems to be very Windows unfriendly.  But
> that's a topic for another discussion.
> 

Well, recently I've come to feel that the problem is that Windows is development
unfriendly when it comes to using FOSS libraries and APIs. :-) That put aside,
if you feel this is a problem, you can try setting up a VM running GNU/Linux
using https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VirtualBox or a different hypervisor. We
used this approach in a previous workplace and it worked well.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

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Re: Suggestion for discussion: Can Pidgin development be made cross-platform?

2016-09-07 Thread Eion Robb
Probably better to discuss on the developer mailing list, cc'd

Are you having trouble with development on Windows? Have you followed all
the steps on the BuildingWinPidgin wiki page?

I do all my development and testing solely on Superior Windows and I've
never really run into any problems. Just setting up the dev env is what
takes the longest, but that's not much harder than following a few steps.

On 7/09/2016 15:03,  wrote:

> What would it take to make Pidgin development (core and plugins) more
> Windows friendly?
>
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Re: Suggestion for discussion: Can Pidgin development be made cross-platform?

2016-09-07 Thread Eion Robb
No reason Visual Studio can't be used.  I've used it in the past for
compiling a plugin that needed to use Microsoft's C++ linking to work.

The Instantbird guys use Visual Studio apparently for doing their builds. (
They mention something about an incompatibility with the time_t typedef
though?)

I've got a pidgin.vcxproj here that I can send through if that would help?
Otherwise, there's stuff in the source tree (in one of the summer of code
branches) that has changes for compiling with Visual Studio.

There's also https://code.google.com/archive/p/libpurple-msvc-win32/ that
might have some stuff in it (haven't checked)

On 7 September 2016 at 18:02,  wrote:

> On 07-09-2016 01:36, Eion Robb wrote:
>
>> Probably better to discuss on the developer mailing list, cc'd
>>
>> Are you having trouble with development on Windows? Have you followed
>> all the steps on the BuildingWinPidgin wiki page?
>>
>> I do all my development and testing solely on Superior Windows and
>> I've never really run into any problems. Just setting up the dev env
>> is what takes the longest, but that's not much harder than following
>> a few steps.
>>
>
> I guess I wasn't clear.
>
> I like Visual Studio, and have been using it (with Visual Assist and other
> plugins) for quite some time.
>
> Building Pidgin (and plugins) on Windows seems to require setting up a
> unix-like environment and tools.
>
> Why cannot Visual Studio be used instead?
>
>
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Re: Bad certificate on planet.pidgin.im

2016-09-07 Thread David Woolley

On 07/09/16 00:07, A wrote:

Just as a quick point of note for anyone that might benefit.

I happen to be working certs right now myself.  I discovered
letsencrypt.org a free certificate authority.  Pretty nifty. That's all
we know. ;)



Anyone with the ability to understand the OpenSSL documentation, which 
presumably includes all the Pidgin developers, can become a free 
certificate authority.  The difficulty is convincing browser and 
operating system suppliers that you are actually checking the identity 
of the people requesting the certificates properly, and, for Microsoft, 
probably paying them a fee for inclusion.


Certificates aren't necessary for encryption; they are necessary to be 
sure that the encrypted channel is going directly to the organisation to 
which you think it is going without a man in the middle being able to 
decrypt and re-encrypt it.


cacert.org is a much longer established free certificate authority, but 
they are still not included in Microsoft systems.  letsencrypt get into 
Microsoft software because they are a second level authority, although 
that begs the question as to why Microsoft should allow that, for a 
public second level authority.


Whereas cacert document their trust model up front, I couldn't see 
anything explaining the trust model for letsencrypt on a quick scan of 
their site.


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Re: Suggestion for discussion: Can Pidgin development be made cross-platform?

2016-09-07 Thread pidgin

On 07-09-2016 01:36, Eion Robb wrote:

Probably better to discuss on the developer mailing list, cc'd

Are you having trouble with development on Windows? Have you followed
all the steps on the BuildingWinPidgin wiki page?

I do all my development and testing solely on Superior Windows and
I've never really run into any problems. Just setting up the dev env
is what takes the longest, but that's not much harder than following
a few steps.


I guess I wasn't clear.

I like Visual Studio, and have been using it (with Visual Assist and other 
plugins) for quite some time.

Building Pidgin (and plugins) on Windows seems to require setting up a 
unix-like environment and tools.

Why cannot Visual Studio be used instead?

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