Re: How dead is SeaMonkey?

2015-07-08 Thread Danny Kile
Paul Bergsagel wrote: Edmund Wong wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: I've seen several sort of oblique mentions here of the lack of development of SM. Also, haven't seen an update in a while. So, I'm beginning to feel that I'm nearing the point where I cannot any longer stick with SM. Kind of sad

Re: We plan to release SeaMonkey 2.35 asap in July.

2015-07-08 Thread Yamo'
Hi, WaltS48 a écrit le 06/07/2015 15:49 : Try 2.39a1 at the bottom of this page. [Index of /pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk](http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/) I didn't found Lightlink version for 2.39 :

Re: Contributed or real version - definitions? --was [Re: We plan to release SeaMonkey 2.35 asap in July.]

2015-07-08 Thread Daniel
On 8/07/2015 5:39 AM, John Duncan wrote: Daniel wrote: On 6/07/2015 9:41 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: Daniel wrote: On 6/07/2015 5:36 PM, Yamo' wrote: Yamo' a écrit le 06/07/2015 09:19 : I didn't found any 2.35b1-candidates on : http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/ Or

Re: How dead is SeaMonkey?

2015-07-08 Thread Daniel
On 8/07/2015 1:54 PM, »Q« wrote: In news:2o-dnvmjkvvwdghinz2dnuu7-lwdn...@mozilla.org, Paul Bergsagel pbergsa...@shaw.ca wrote: Does SeaMonkey benefit, in the long run, with such a rapid update schedule? If SeaMonkey adopted a less frequent update schedule would the net benefits be greater

Re: How dead is SeaMonkey?

2015-07-08 Thread Ed Mullen
Edmund Wong wrote on 7/7/2015 8:32 PM: Ed Mullen wrote: I've seen several sort of oblique mentions here of the lack of development of SM. Also, haven't seen an update in a while. So, I'm beginning to feel that I'm nearing the point where I cannot any longer stick with SM. Kind of sad since

Re: How dead is SeaMonkey?

2015-07-08 Thread WaltS48
On 07/08/2015 09:01 AM, Daniel wrote: On 8/07/2015 1:54 PM, »Q« wrote: In news:2o-dnvmjkvvwdghinz2dnuu7-lwdn...@mozilla.org, Paul Bergsagel pbergsa...@shaw.ca wrote: Does SeaMonkey benefit, in the long run, with such a rapid update schedule? If SeaMonkey adopted a less frequent update

Re: Again SeaMonkey is fully unknown

2015-07-08 Thread Daniel
On 8/07/2015 6:09 AM, John Duncan wrote: EE wrote: Daniel wrote: and, Jonathan and others, just FYI, it's my belief that if the sniffers sniffed for the term Gecko rather than the actual name then they would accept Firefox, SeaMonkey and Opera (and probably others), at a minimum Opera uses

Re: Again SeaMonkey is fully unknown

2015-07-08 Thread Daniel
On 8/07/2015 5:55 AM, John Duncan wrote: Snip To fix this, couldn't we try always reporting the Firefox/x.x bit at the end of the UA string to deal with invalid sniffing? or is that not the issue in this

Re: How dead is SeaMonkey?

2015-07-08 Thread Ed Mullen
Rainer Bielefeld wrote on 7/8/2015 2:22 AM: Hi Ed, you find some thoughts here https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2015/07/08/how-dead-is-seamoneky/ Best regards Rainer Bielefeld Thanks, Rainer. Good to know. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ Can you buy anything specific at a general

Re: SM 2.36 will not start without libmozalloc.dylib

2015-07-08 Thread Adrian Kalla
W dniu 07/07/2015 o 10:53 PM, EE pisze: I decided to try SeaMonkey 2.36 on my Mac from Tinderbox builds on the Moz FTP site, and it would not start. I compared the contents of the app package of 2.36 with 2.35 and found that in the MacOS folder, libmozalloc.dylib is missing in SM 2.36. When

Re: How dead is SeaMonkey?

2015-07-08 Thread Ed Mullen
Philip Chee wrote on 7/8/2015 2:35 AM: On 07/07/2015 14:43, Ed Mullen wrote: I've seen several sort of oblique mentions here of the lack of development of SM. Also, haven't seen an update in a while. So, I'm beginning to feel that I'm nearing the point where I cannot any longer stick with SM.

Re: We plan to release SeaMonkey 2.35 asap in July.

2015-07-08 Thread John Duncan
Yamo' wrote: Hi, WaltS48 a écrit le 06/07/2015 15:49 : Try 2.39a1 at the bottom of this page. [Index of /pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk](http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/) I didn't found Lightlink version for

Re: Again SeaMonkey is fully unknown

2015-07-08 Thread John Duncan
Daniel wrote: On 8/07/2015 6:09 AM, John Duncan wrote: EE wrote: Daniel wrote: and, Jonathan and others, just FYI, it's my belief that if the sniffers sniffed for the term Gecko rather than the actual name then they would accept Firefox, SeaMonkey and Opera (and probably others), at a minimum

Re: Again SeaMonkey is fully unknown

2015-07-08 Thread John Duncan
Daniel wrote: On 8/07/2015 5:55 AM, John Duncan wrote: Snip To fix this, couldn't we try always reporting the Firefox/x.x bit at the end of the UA string to deal with invalid sniffing? or is that not the issue in this circumstance? Yes, you could, John, but then no-one will ever know about

Re: Create filter

2015-07-08 Thread MRoss
Re: Create filter F Murtz wrote: How would you create a filter for a poster that continually changes the email address like this poster,if you want to see examples look at uk.legal Col.edmund J.bourke hisburkens...@usa.com The 2 address changes I made were within an hour I think, are

Re: How dead is SeaMonkey?

2015-07-08 Thread Miles Fidelman
On 8/07/2015 1:54 PM, »Q« wrote: In news:2o-dnvmjkvvwdghinz2dnuu7-lwdn...@mozilla.org, Paul Bergsagel pbergsa...@shaw.ca wrote: Does SeaMonkey benefit, in the long run, with such a rapid update schedule? If SeaMonkey adopted a less frequent update schedule would the net benefits be greater

Re: How dead is SeaMonkey?

2015-07-08 Thread NFN Smith
Danny Kile wrote: I would agree! Why does everyone think that a new version should come out every month or two? Overall, I'm quite content with less frequent updates. However, knowing that Seamonkey follows development of Gecko, Firefox and Thunderbird, and that those are on a 6-week

Re: How dead is SeaMonkey?

2015-07-08 Thread Jonathan N. Little
Ray_Net wrote: Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 08/07/2015 01:08: Ed Mullen wrote: I've seen several sort of oblique mentions here of the lack of development of SM. Also, haven't seen an update in a while. So, I'm beginning to feel that I'm nearing the point where I cannot any longer stick with

Re: SM 2.36 will not start without libmozalloc.dylib

2015-07-08 Thread EE
Adrian Kalla wrote: W dniu 07/07/2015 o 10:53 PM, EE pisze: I decided to try SeaMonkey 2.36 on my Mac from Tinderbox builds on the Moz FTP site, and it would not start. I compared the contents of the app package of 2.36 with 2.35 and found that in the MacOS folder, libmozalloc.dylib is missing

Re: How dead is SeaMonkey?

2015-07-08 Thread John Duncan
Ray_Net wrote: Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 08/07/2015 01:08: Ed Mullen wrote: I've seen several sort of oblique mentions here of the lack of development of SM. Also, haven't seen an update in a while. So, I'm beginning to feel that I'm nearing the point where I cannot any longer stick with

Re: How dead is SeaMonkey?

2015-07-08 Thread Michael Ströder
Miles Fidelman wrote: For what it's worth - I HATE rapid update cycles. Well, I also hate that there are so many security issues causing rapid update cycles. But at the end I appreciate if those security issues get fixed quickly. Wherever I can, I run 2-4 years behind the current release

Re: How dead is SeaMonkey?

2015-07-08 Thread Philip Chee
On 07/07/2015 14:43, Ed Mullen wrote: I've seen several sort of oblique mentions here of the lack of development of SM. Also, haven't seen an update in a while. So, I'm beginning to feel that I'm nearing the point where I cannot any longer stick with SM. Kind of sad since I've been

Re: How dead is SeaMonkey?

2015-07-08 Thread Rainer Bielefeld
Hi Ed, you find some thoughts here https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2015/07/08/how-dead-is-seamoneky/ Best regards Rainer Bielefeld ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org

Re: How dead is SeaMonkey?

2015-07-08 Thread Marisa Ciceran
I just had a quick look at the URL you gave and it refers to an upcoming Seamonkey version 2.35 that is based on Firefox 38. In yesterday's emails also came the newsletter from US-CERT which states: Original release date: July 07, 2015 Mozilla has released security updates to address

Re: How dead is SeaMonkey?

2015-07-08 Thread Paul in Houston, TX
Ray_Net wrote: Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 08/07/2015 01:08: Ed Mullen wrote: I've seen several sort of oblique mentions here of the lack of development of SM. Also, haven't seen an update in a while. So, I'm beginning to feel that I'm nearing the point where I cannot any longer stick

Re: SeaMonky Suite

2015-07-08 Thread Ed Mullen
S Slicer wrote on 7/8/2015 3:54 PM: I stated with Netscape years and years ago, and when it ended switched to SeaMonkey. I have tried other browsers and e-mail programs, but SeaMonkey remains my all-time favorite. A BIG thank you to all who currently and previously have worked on the SeaMonkey

Re: How dead is SeaMonkey?

2015-07-08 Thread John Duncan
Edmund Wong wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: I've seen several sort of oblique mentions here of the lack of development of SM. Also, haven't seen an update in a while. So, I'm beginning to feel that I'm nearing the point where I cannot any longer stick with SM. Kind of sad since I've been with it

Re: How dead is SeaMonkey?

2015-07-08 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
Jonathan N. Little wrote: Ray_Net wrote: How can I change my UA string from: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/35.0 SeaMonkey/2.32 to: Mozilla/9.0 (Windows NT 10.1; rv:99.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/99.0 ? You can either install an extension, there are several or in

Re: How dead is SeaMonkey?

2015-07-08 Thread John Duncan
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Jonathan N. Little wrote: Ray_Net wrote: How can I change my UA string from: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/35.0 SeaMonkey/2.32 to: Mozilla/9.0 (Windows NT 10.1; rv:99.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/99.0 ? You can either install an

Re: SeaMonky Suite

2015-07-08 Thread HilsB
S Slicer wrote: I stated with Netscape years and years ago, and when it ended switched to SeaMonkey. I have tried other browsers and e-mail programs, but SeaMonkey remains my all-time favorite. A BIG thank you to all who currently and previously have worked on the SeaMonkey Project! Hear

Re: SeaMonky Suite

2015-07-08 Thread WaltS48
On 07/08/2015 08:27 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: S Slicer wrote on 7/8/2015 3:54 PM: I stated with Netscape years and years ago, and when it ended switched to SeaMonkey. I have tried other browsers and e-mail programs, but SeaMonkey remains my all-time favorite. A BIG thank you to all who currently

Re: How dead is SeaMonkey?

2015-07-08 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
John Duncan wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: I'm curious -- I was browsing around looking at keys containing the string useragent and came to one named general.useragent.site_specific_overrides Does that mean there's a way to lie to specific dysfunctional sites while retaining the normal

Re: How dead is SeaMonkey?

2015-07-08 Thread Chris Ilias
On 2015-07-08 1:34 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: On 8/07/2015 1:54 PM, »Q« wrote: Since the last SeaMonkey release, there have been over 40 MFSAs, many of them critical. IMO (and it's only that) if SM decided out of policy *not* to issue security updates in a timely manner, that would mark the

SeaMonky Suite

2015-07-08 Thread S Slicer
I stated with Netscape years and years ago, and when it ended switched to SeaMonkey. I have tried other browsers and e-mail programs, but SeaMonkey remains my all-time favorite. A BIG thank you to all who currently and previously have worked on the SeaMonkey Project!

Re: How dead is SeaMonkey?

2015-07-08 Thread Ray_Net
Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 08/07/2015 01:08: Ed Mullen wrote: I've seen several sort of oblique mentions here of the lack of development of SM. Also, haven't seen an update in a while. So, I'm beginning to feel that I'm nearing the point where I cannot any longer stick with SM. (snip)

Re: How dead is SeaMonkey?

2015-07-08 Thread Ray_Net
Jonathan N. Little wrote on 08/07/2015 23:32: Ray_Net wrote: Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 08/07/2015 01:08: Ed Mullen wrote: I've seen several sort of oblique mentions here of the lack of development of SM. Also, haven't seen an update in a while. So, I'm beginning to feel that I'm nearing

Re: Again SeaMonkey is fully unknown

2015-07-08 Thread Ray_Net
Ray_Net wrote on 07/07/2015 09:55: WaltS48 wrote on 06/07/2015 23:40: On 07/06/2015 05:22 PM, Ray_Net wrote: WaltS48 wrote on 06/07/2015 15:53: On 07/06/2015 02:26 AM, Ray_Net wrote: A site, telling me that my browser is not up-to-date direct me here: http://browsehappy.com/?locale=fr Where