Re: Unsupported Browser Notice

2019-04-29 Thread Felix Miata
JAS composed on 2019-04-29 18:48 (UTC-0600): > FedEx site complains about my SM 2.49.4 when I use Delivery Manager > --Suggest Firefox 38 + That used to annoy me, but "this" WFM for several years now (recently updated to be 66.0 instead of 60.0): about:config:

Re: Unsupported Browser Notice

2019-04-29 Thread JAS
NFN Smith wrote: WaltS48 wrote: They should develop for the W3C web standards, which Google, Microsoft, Apple, Mozilla and others are members of the consortium. No? No objection from me. So the site decided

Re: Unsupported Browser Notice

2019-04-29 Thread GerardJan
NFN Smith wrote: EE wrote: Is there some big deal about forged user-agents?  Why should the owner of a website care whether a user-agent is faked or not?  Besides, if the fake has all the navigator elements filled in properly, the fake is hard to detect. There shouldn't be, but there is.

Re: Unsupported Browser Notice - SOLVED

2019-04-29 Thread NFN Smith
Felix Miata wrote: Hmm! NOT advertising 'Firefox' fixed a problem!! That's different!! ;-) I've been not advertising Firefox for more years than I can remember, with the exception of 5 general.useragent.override.* settings, where Firefox and Windows (instead of Linux) are advertised, and

Re: Unsupported Browser Notice

2019-04-29 Thread NFN Smith
EE wrote: Is there some big deal about forged user-agents?  Why should the owner of a website care whether a user-agent is faked or not?  Besides, if the fake has all the navigator elements filled in properly, the fake is hard to detect. There shouldn't be, but there is. In the days of

Re: Unsupported Browser Notice

2019-04-29 Thread NFN Smith
WaltS48 wrote: They should develop for the W3C web standards, which Google, Microsoft, Apple, Mozilla and others are members of the consortium. No? No objection from me. So the site decided to no longer

Re: moznet retirement (was: Staying alive - how can I help?)

2019-04-29 Thread Felix Miata
Frank-Rainer Grahl composed on 2019-04-29 11:57 (UTC+0200): > It is the usual spiel. Abuse bla bla bla and we won't have this. Even with > irc > you can kick and moderate users. This is imho just another attempt to silence > opinions they don't like. Bet the newsgroups will follow. There is

Re: Staying alive - how can I help?

2019-04-29 Thread GerardJan
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Reiner, please send me an email. FRG Reiner Schug wrote: Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: ...     Q: Why are we moving away from IRC? IRC is fine!     A: IRC is not fine. ... The rest of the article explains why this is to be considered so, and yes - spam is part

Re: Staying alive - how can I help?

2019-04-29 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl
It is the usual spiel. Abuse bla bla bla and we won't have this. Even with irc you can kick and moderate users. This is imho just another attempt to silence opinions they don't like. Bet the newsgroups will follow. FRG Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: The rest of the article explains why this

Re: Staying alive - how can I help?

2019-04-29 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl
Reiner, please send me an email. FRG Reiner Schug wrote: Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: ...     Q: Why are we moving away from IRC? IRC is fine!     A: IRC is not fine. ... The rest of the article explains why this is to be considered so, and yes - spam is part of that. A: IRC is not

Re: Staying alive - how can I help?

2019-04-29 Thread Reiner Schug
Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: ... Q: Why are we moving away from IRC? IRC is fine! A: IRC is not fine. ... The rest of the article explains why this is to be considered so, and yes - spam is part of that. A: IRC is not fine. new Q: WTF is wrong with IRC? Explain. Why not make a

Re: Staying alive - how can I help?

2019-04-29 Thread Don Spam's Reckless Son
Reiner Schug wrote: Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: > What is needed mostly are helping hands. No volunteers/devs no SeaMonkey in > the long term. You can only do so much with money if you don't have the time > to support paid people. Mozilla is completely nuts... now they will shutdown their