Re: Just to remind the SeaMonkey devs
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Saul Luiga wrote: [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2mU6USTBRE]Who's fat? SeaMonkey !!![/url] I'm not fat I'm big boned ~ SeaMonkey (When talking about how its bones are made up of the innards of Firefox and Thunderbird) Lol nice try, but no, the guy is fat... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Just to remind the SeaMonkey devs
zfhgfhfj wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Saul Luiga wrote: [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2mU6USTBRE]Who's fat? SeaMonkey !!![/url] I'm not fat I'm big boned ~ SeaMonkey (When talking about how its bones are made up of the innards of Firefox and Thunderbird) Lol nice try, but no, the guy is fat... No! He's just short for his weight. -- Armadillo Web Development www.armadilloweb.com Cell: 903.244.3644 Opening your Door to Opportunity and inviting the world to walk through. Character is doing the right thing... Even when no one is watching... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Seamonket, Windows 7, Taskbar buttons, and Combine when full
I do not know whether this is a Windows 7 bug (?feature?) or one originating from Seamonkey ... Over the course of a few days, I typically end up with more Seamonkey windows open than can all be displayed when I click on the Seamonkey button in my taskbar. I am fairly certain that the behaviour /used/ to be that when I clicked on that button, the subset of Seamonkey windows that was displayed would always include the last-active window, but this is no longer the case. Now when I click on the Seamonkey button, the subset displayed is always that subset at the top of the list (i.e., the longest open Seamonkey windows), which is never what I want. Is this a change in the Seamonkey interface to Windows 7, to Windows 7 itself, or am I simply confused at to what I remember as the previous (and preferable) behaviour ? Philip Taylor P.S. No Aero nonsense : this is the so-called Basic and High Contrast theme : Windows Classic. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email shutdown
Daniel wrote: Chuck wrote: Most of the time when I attempt to open a u-tube or just a real long email sea-monkey just shuts down. This just started about a week ago. It gets real old fast. Chuck, could I ask you to have a look at Tools-Web Development-Error Console. Clear the screen but then next time you have your shut-down, could you check out the error console, post what's there (at least the last error msg) as this may help the devs set you on the right path. Also could you list what plug-ins and extensions you have on-board? And, also, I think if you type about:crashes in the browser address bar and post the most recent entry that, also, might provide the Devs with useful information. -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Increased crashes/instability on SM 2.11 linux x64?
Daniel wrote: Chief Curmudgeon wrote: Daniel wrote: sean.n.b...@invalid.wizard.net wrote: Daniel wrote: Jesse Molina wrote: I am seeing much increased instability in seamonkey 2.11 on Linux, amd64 version. Can anyone else using SM linux confirm or deny? I did a memtest86+ overnight just a few days ago to check and everything came up clean. Not a problem for me on Mandriva Linux 2009.0!! Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120715 Firefox/14.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.11 2.10 was utterly unstable for 64 bit linux peppermint three... 2.11 is rock solid thus far... sean Might be something in the peppermint then, sean.! Haven't had a crash on my Mandriva in yonks!! Maybe a dozen crashes in the past year. Periodic build failures usually require blowing away the tree and starting from scratch. User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Firefox/17.0 SeaMonkey/2.14a1 Build identifier: 20120808112204 Slackware-current. Chief, it may help the Devs if, next time you have a crash, after you re-start, have a look at Tools-Web Development-Error Console and post the last entry here for the Devs to look at. Might help! And, also, I think if you type about:crashes in the browser address bar and post the most recent entry that, also, might provide the Devs with useful information. -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Disable PHP ??? (was : Flash 11.x Plug-In Full Screen, crashing in FF, SM)
On 8/14/2012 6:55 AM, support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org wrote: Re: Disable PHP ??? (was : Flash 11.x Plug-In Full Screen crashing in FF, SM With all this discussion of stopping PHP from working, I scratch my head. My main point was relating the Flash Plug-In crashing in many current FF and SM installations, and what was discussed with Adobe staffers regarding Flash 11. We have seen this disable of one, some or all of the mentioned standards, Flash, PHP, JavaScript, even Java, happen, was the point, but I have no wish or predilection for such to be done, as web havoc with a side-order of user fearanoia always ensues. My quite minor point was that ANY web standard...be it Flash, PHP, JavaScript, even Java, etc. can be disabled at one or more points, that's all, hence I mentioned it as a side-note to the Flash Plug-In crashing in many current FF and SM installations. Joe ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Disable PHP ??? (was : Flash 11.x Plug-In Full Screen, crashing in FF, SM)
On 08/14/2012 08:14 AM, Joe Rotello wrote: On 8/14/2012 6:55 AM, support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org wrote: Re: Disable PHP ??? (was : Flash 11.x Plug-In Full Screen crashingin FF, SM With all this discussion of stopping PHP from working, I scratch my head. My main point was relating the Flash Plug-In crashing in many current FF and SM installations, and what was discussed with Adobe staffers regarding Flash 11. We have seen this disable of one, some or all of the mentioned standards, Flash, PHP, JavaScript, even Java, happen, was the point, but I have no wish or predilection for such to be done, as web havoc with a side-order of user fearanoia always ensues. My quite minor point was that ANY web standard...be it Flash, PHP, JavaScript, even Java, etc. can be disabled at one or more points, that's all, hence I mentioned it as a side-note to the Flash Plug-In crashing in many current FF and SM installations. Joe Sorry Joe, in a previous post you said PHP could be disabled in the browser. I just wanted to know how you accomplished that, or how I prevent the server from executing that PHP in the web page, when I access it. In other words, prove your point. -- WaltS Fedora 17 (64-bit) GNOME 3.4.2 Thunderbird Beta ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Flash 11.x Plug-In Full Screen crashing in FF, SM
Joe Rotello schrieb: A great many Firefox and a fair reported number of SM users are reporting back to Mozilla and Adobe that Flash Plug-In 11.x is crashing the Flash Player Plug-In when going to full screen (aka FS) Flash display. This is a known problem with Flash 11.3 and we (Mozilla) have been in talks with Adobe about this and other Flash 11.3 Protected Mode issues for a few weeks now. It seems like the folks at Adobe only slowly make progress in solving those bugs they introduced in Flash with what was supposed to be a security feature. We're trying to continue to work with them to get those problems resolved, but only they can look into the code and actually work on it, as Flash is a proprietary, closed-source piece of software. The recent incidents are one more sign why we need to continue to improve HTML5 and related technologies so that websites and users in the long run can avoid Flash completely - but that's only a long-term solution. In the short term, we will continue to work with Adobe and try to help and push them to fix the problems users are seeing. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Disable PHP ??? (was : Flash 11.x Plug-In Full Screen, crashing in FF, SM)
Joe Rotello schrieb: We have seen this disable of one, some or all of the mentioned standards, Flash, PHP, JavaScript, even Java, happen, was the point, but I have no wish or predilection for such to be done, as web havoc with a side-order of user fearanoia always ensues. Flash, PHP and Java are not standards. And even JavaScript isn't under that name, as the standard is called ECMAScript. Still, you already handled PHP in there, it's server-side and not anything the client/browser needs to or even can care about. There's cases of server-side Java, for which the same applies. There's also websites running with Python (django, etc.), perl, node.js or any other number of technologies, which all are opaque to the user and nothing you ever need to care about unless you are operating web servers, and in this case you only need to worry about what you are operating there, not what others might run. Flash and Java applets are browser plugins, essentially non-web-technology black boxes inside a web page, and in those black boxes there are binary third-party non-standard applications rendering some content that isn't accessible to the browser or web technologies. This was a good idea for prototyping some functionality that earlier web browsers weren't able to do, but nowadays we (all browser vendors) are catching up fast with actual web technologies (HTML5 and friends) there, making the same kind of features better controllable for users (as browser functionality, prefs and add-ons like GreaseMonkey can access them) as well as easier to integrate in the experience of a website. We are at a point where those proprietary black boxes in websites like Flash and Java are increasingly unnecessary. Unfortunately, they're still around en masse, esp. in the case of Flash. If you think you only need it rarely, or only on specific sites, it may be a good idea to try the experimental click to play feature that Firefox 14, SeaMonkey 2.11 and newer versions have integrated in a slightly hidden way (because it is experimental after all) - see the blog post of the developer when he first landed it for how to activate this feature: http://msujaws.wordpress.com/2012/04/11/opting-in-to-plugins-in-firefox/ Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Some advice ?
I am running Seamonkey 2.7. My Yahoo.mail refuses to retain the Theme I choose. Tried a Google Search and found many, many people have this same problem, so it is not confined only to SeaMonkey. Does anyone have a suggestion as to what to do ? Here it comes ! DoctorBill -- If Gravity is not a force, then there are only 'THREE forces of Nature' and they are of about the same magnitude... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Some advice ?
DoctorBill wrote: I am running Seamonkey 2.7. My Yahoo.mail refuses to retain the Theme I choose. Tried a Google Search and found many, many people have this same problem, so it is not confined only to SeaMonkey. Does anyone have a suggestion as to what to do ? Here it comes ! DoctorBill -- If Gravity is not a force, then there are only 'THREE forces of Nature' and they are of about the same magnitude... The usual advice ... Clear cookies and allow cookies from yahooo. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ 4 priests, 12 rabbis, and 24 lawyers walk into a bar. Bartender says, Is this a joke? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Google calendar - how
How do I display my Google calendar in SM. I have Lightning installed and Provider for Google calendar. Latest SM on Windows 7 -- Jim S Tyneside UK www.jimscott.co.uk http://geordiecamii.wordpress.com http://geordiecam.wordpress.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Google calendar - how
On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 23:26:18 +0100 Jim S j...@jimxscott.co.uk wrote: How do I display my Google calendar in SM. I have Lightning installed and Provider for Google calendar. Latest SM on Windows 7 https://wiki.mozilla.org/Calendar:Using_Lightning_with_Google_Calendars Since the Provider for Google Calendar extension's description links to those instructions, I guess you've already tried them. But we'd need more info about what went wrong. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Google calendar - how
On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 17:47:35 -0500, »Q« wrote: On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 23:26:18 +0100 Jim S j...@jimxscott.co.uk wrote: How do I display my Google calendar in SM. I have Lightning installed and Provider for Google calendar. Latest SM on Windows 7 https://wiki.mozilla.org/Calendar:Using_Lightning_with_Google_Calendars Since the Provider for Google Calendar extension's description links to those instructions, I guess you've already tried them. But we'd need more info about what went wrong. Thanks I missed that link somehow :o? -- Jim S Tyneside UK www.jimscott.co.uk http://geordiecamii.wordpress.com http://geordiecam.wordpress.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Just to remind the SeaMonkey devs
Michael Gordon wrote: Lol nice try, but no, the guy is fat... No! He's just short for his weight. Another nice try but no, its hight is OK, is only a Internet Application Suite not an Operating System, so it can't never be higher, the weight is is the problem. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
