Re: SM Help Appears?

2018-03-20 Thread Thomas Pamin 

Thomas Pamin wrote:

All of a sudden, every time my PC awakes from sleep, the SM Help Screen
is open on top of the web page showing. Never had this happen before.
Can someone help?


I also just noticed that it does the same thing when IE Explorer is 
open. Both browsers use the F1 key for their help screens. Something 
wrong with my keyboard?

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SM Help Appears?

2018-03-20 Thread Thomas Pamin 
All of a sudden, every time my PC awakes from sleep, the SM Help Screen 
is open on top of the web page showing. Never had this happen before. 
Can someone help?

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Re: Mozilla Foundation Security Advisory 2018-08

2018-03-20 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey 

On 3/20/2018 11:35 AM, NoOp wrote:

On 3/20/2018 11:02 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Fix will be in 2.49.3. Building was supposed to be started this week but I
caught a cold.

FRG


Thanks! Hope you feel better soon.


Ditto. At least, the fix is coming. I wonder if there will be other 
fixes too.

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Re: Slowdowns over time when using SeaMonkey

2018-03-20 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey 

On 3/20/2018 7:51 AM, TCW wrote:

On 3/20/2018 9:38 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 3/20/2018 at 10:22 AM, TCW created this epitome of digital genius:

On 3/20/2018 9:10 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 3/20/2018 at 9:55 AM, TCW created this epitome of digital genius:

On 3/20/2018 8:36 AM, Jonathan Wilson wrote:
If I use SeaMonkey (2.49.2 which seems to be the latest version) 
for a while and visit different sites and open and close windows 
and such, eventually it gets to the point where it slows down to 
the point of almost hanging and I need to close a bunch of windows 
(which takes ages since SeaMonkey is running so slow) before 
SeaMonkey will start being usable again. In some cases I have to 
force-close SeaMonkey completly because its totally hung and 
simply wont respond to my inputs.


I have noticed that using Google Maps and panning around is a 
great way to make this hanging/freezing/etc happen faster.


The last time it totally hung Task Manager told me there was 
almost no free physical memory (I have a total of 8GB) and that 
SeaMonkey was using a very large amount of RAM. I also noticed 
that when I attached to SM with a debugger, it was hanging 
somewhere in the windows memory allocation code (i.e. that was 
what was on top of the call stack) with some mozglue memory 
allocation code the next thing after the windows code.


Is this kind of hanging/freezing/slowdown a known thing? Is there 
a bugzilla bug (or bugs) that cover this issue? Is there anything 
that can be done to mitigate or work around the issue? Could one 
of my plugins (I use Addblock, ChatZilla, DOM Inspector, 
Geolocater, JavaScript Debugger and User Agent Switcher as 
extentions plus Acrobat, NVIDIA 3D, Silverlight, Window Live 
Photos and Flash as plugins) be the cause of the problems?


Yes, I have seen this as well. I am using a build of SM 2.53 and 
I've seen it happen browsing regular sites. It seems to be either a 
memory leak or the browser not releasing memory though garbage 
collection / cycle collection. I would not hold out hope for a fix 
since there are not many people working on SM at the moment.


I'm not seeing this at all.  SM 2.49.2 Win 10 Pro 64-bit.

I suspect an add-on or combination of add-ons.  I suggest trying 
Safe Mode to see if that is it.




I thought it was an add-on as well. Frank-Reiner had me switch to 
uBlock as I too thought ABP was culprit. Nope. I can 100% repro it 
when browsing on Momondo and AirBNB for a short period of time (15-30 
minutes) on my home or office PC. I'm on Win 7 x64 but I doubt it 
makes any difference.


Have you tried Safe Mode?



Yup.


I noticed uBlock Origin's counter goes up due to blocking connections. 
That cause major slow downs. :(

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Re: Mozilla Foundation Security Advisory 2018-08

2018-03-20 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey 

On 3/20/2018 7:59 AM, chokito wrote:

Official Builds 32 Bit
52.6.1.6610 SeaMonkey.exe (2.49.2)
52.7.2.6648 Frefox.exe (52.7.2)

WG9s SeaMonkey ESR Builds 64 Bit
52.7.2.6652 SeaMonkey.exe (2.49.3)


Thanks. Is this information shown anywhere in our SM installations?
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Re: Slowdowns over time when using SeaMonkey

2018-03-20 Thread TCW 

On 3/20/2018 2:44 PM, EE wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

S Slicer wrote:

Jonathan Wilson wrote:



Is this kind of hanging/freezing/slowdown a known thing? Is there a 
bugzilla bug (or bugs) that cover this issue? Is there anything that 
can be done to mitigate or work around the issue? Could one of my 
plugins (I use Addblock, ChatZilla, DOM Inspector, Geolocater, 
JavaScript Debugger and User Agent Switcher as extentions plus 
Acrobat, NVIDIA 3D, Silverlight, Window Live Photos and Flash as 
plugins) be the cause of the problems?

I see this too.  Very noticeable on Facebook.


Same here - a problem for many years now; don't expect a fix.

I finally put a "Kill Seamonkey" icon on my desktop and use it 
frequently when things slow down.


I have not noticed that problem with SeaMonkey on MacOS.  I clear the 
cache and history after every browsing session, which probably helps.




So do I. It's not cache but likely bad web site design.
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Re: Slowdowns over time when using SeaMonkey

2018-03-20 Thread EE 

Bill Spikowski wrote:

S Slicer wrote:

Jonathan Wilson wrote:



Is this kind of hanging/freezing/slowdown a known thing? Is there a 
bugzilla bug (or bugs) that cover this issue? Is there anything that 
can be done to mitigate or work around the issue? Could one of my 
plugins (I use Addblock, ChatZilla, DOM Inspector, Geolocater, 
JavaScript Debugger and User Agent Switcher as extentions plus 
Acrobat, NVIDIA 3D, Silverlight, Window Live Photos and Flash as 
plugins) be the cause of the problems?

I see this too.  Very noticeable on Facebook.


Same here - a problem for many years now; don't expect a fix.

I finally put a "Kill Seamonkey" icon on my desktop and use it 
frequently when things slow down.


I have not noticed that problem with SeaMonkey on MacOS.  I clear the 
cache and history after every browsing session, which probably helps.


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Re: Mozilla Foundation Security Advisory 2018-08

2018-03-20 Thread NoOp 
On 3/20/2018 11:02 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> Fix will be in 2.49.3. Building was supposed to be started this week but I 
> caught a cold.
> 
> FRG

Thanks! Hope you feel better soon.

> 
> 
> Mason83 wrote:
>> On 20/03/2018 16:21, G. Ross wrote:
>>> NoOp wrote:
 https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2018-08/
 Out of bounds memory write while processing Vorbis audio data
 ANNOUNCED
 March 16, 2018
 IMPACT
 CRITICAL
 PRODUCTS
 Firefox, Firefox ESR
 FIXED IN
 Firefox 59.0.1
 Firefox ESR 52.7.2

 Also see:
 https://www.securityfocus.com/bid/103432

 What version of ESR is SeaMonkey 2.49.2 using?
>>>
>>> How common is vorbis audio data?
>> 
>> Before Opus came along, Vorbis was the best royalty-free open-source audio 
>> codec.
>> It was even better than most proprietary solutions.
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opus_%28audio_format%29
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorbis
>> 
>> Vorbis wrapped in OGG is used heavily on Wikipedia for most (all?) audio 
>> clips.
>> e.g. 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Musopen_-_In_the_Hall_Of_The_Mountain_King.ogg
>> 
>> Regards.
>> 
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Re: Mozilla Foundation Security Advisory 2018-08

2018-03-20 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl 
Fix will be in 2.49.3. Building was supposed to be started this week but I 
caught a cold.


FRG


Mason83 wrote:

On 20/03/2018 16:21, G. Ross wrote:

NoOp wrote:

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2018-08/
Out of bounds memory write while processing Vorbis audio data
ANNOUNCED
March 16, 2018
IMPACT
CRITICAL
PRODUCTS
Firefox, Firefox ESR
FIXED IN
Firefox 59.0.1
Firefox ESR 52.7.2

Also see:
https://www.securityfocus.com/bid/103432

What version of ESR is SeaMonkey 2.49.2 using?


How common is vorbis audio data?


Before Opus came along, Vorbis was the best royalty-free open-source audio 
codec.
It was even better than most proprietary solutions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opus_%28audio_format%29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorbis

Vorbis wrapped in OGG is used heavily on Wikipedia for most (all?) audio clips.
e.g. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Musopen_-_In_the_Hall_Of_The_Mountain_King.ogg

Regards.


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Re: Slowdowns over time when using SeaMonkey

2018-03-20 Thread Bill Spikowski 

Bill Spikowski wrote:

S Slicer wrote:

Jonathan Wilson wrote:



Is this kind of hanging/freezing/slowdown a known thing? Is there a bugzilla 
bug (or bugs) that cover this issue? Is there anything that can be done to 
mitigate or work around the issue? Could one of my plugins (I use Addblock, 
ChatZilla, DOM Inspector, Geolocater, JavaScript Debugger and User Agent 
Switcher as extentions plus Acrobat, NVIDIA 3D, Silverlight, Window Live Photos 
and Flash as plugins) be the cause of the problems?

I see this too.  Very noticeable on Facebook.


Same here - a problem for many years now; don't expect a fix.

I finally put a "Kill Seamonkey" icon on my desktop and use it frequently when 
things slow down.


I might add that this icon is right next to my "Kill Chrome," "Kill Opera" and "Kill 
Firefox" buttons -- all of them get bogged down from time to time.

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Re: Slowdowns over time when using SeaMonkey

2018-03-20 Thread Bill Spikowski 

S Slicer wrote:

Jonathan Wilson wrote:



Is this kind of hanging/freezing/slowdown a known thing? Is there a bugzilla 
bug (or bugs) that cover this issue? Is there anything that can be done to 
mitigate or work around the issue? Could one of my plugins (I use Addblock, 
ChatZilla, DOM Inspector, Geolocater, JavaScript Debugger and User Agent 
Switcher as extentions plus Acrobat, NVIDIA 3D, Silverlight, Window Live Photos 
and Flash as plugins) be the cause of the problems?

I see this too.  Very noticeable on Facebook.


Same here - a problem for many years now; don't expect a fix.

I finally put a "Kill Seamonkey" icon on my desktop and use it frequently when 
things slow down.
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Re: Slowdowns over time when using SeaMonkey

2018-03-20 Thread S Slicer 

Jonathan Wilson wrote:
If I use SeaMonkey (2.49.2 which seems to be the latest version) for a 
while and visit different sites and open and close windows and such, 
eventually it gets to the point where it slows down to the point of 
almost hanging and I need to close a bunch of windows (which takes ages 
since SeaMonkey is running so slow) before SeaMonkey will start being 
usable again. In some cases I have to force-close SeaMonkey completly 
because its totally hung and simply wont respond to my inputs.


I have noticed that using Google Maps and panning around is a great way 
to make this hanging/freezing/etc happen faster.


The last time it totally hung Task Manager told me there was almost no 
free physical memory (I have a total of 8GB) and that SeaMonkey was 
using a very large amount of RAM. I also noticed that when I attached to 
SM with a debugger, it was hanging somewhere in the windows memory 
allocation code (i.e. that was what was on top of the call stack) with 
some mozglue memory allocation code the next thing after the windows code.


Is this kind of hanging/freezing/slowdown a known thing? Is there a 
bugzilla bug (or bugs) that cover this issue? Is there anything that can 
be done to mitigate or work around the issue? Could one of my plugins (I 
use Addblock, ChatZilla, DOM Inspector, Geolocater, JavaScript Debugger 
and User Agent Switcher as extentions plus Acrobat, NVIDIA 3D, 
Silverlight, Window Live Photos and Flash as plugins) be the cause of 
the problems?

I see this too.  Very noticeable on Facebook.
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Re: Video Downloaders

2018-03-20 Thread Mason83 
On 18/03/2018 20:36, Chuck wrote:

> It is not free but is so versatile it is well worth the 29.99 one time 
> payment.

Meh... 30 bucks for something so trivial doesn't sound like
a good deal.

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Re: Mozilla Foundation Security Advisory 2018-08

2018-03-20 Thread Mason83 
On 20/03/2018 16:21, G. Ross wrote:
> NoOp wrote:
>> https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2018-08/
>> Out of bounds memory write while processing Vorbis audio data
>> ANNOUNCED
>> March 16, 2018
>> IMPACT
>> CRITICAL
>> PRODUCTS
>> Firefox, Firefox ESR
>> FIXED IN
>> Firefox 59.0.1
>> Firefox ESR 52.7.2
>>
>> Also see:
>> https://www.securityfocus.com/bid/103432
>>
>> What version of ESR is SeaMonkey 2.49.2 using?
>
> How common is vorbis audio data?

Before Opus came along, Vorbis was the best royalty-free open-source audio 
codec.
It was even better than most proprietary solutions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opus_%28audio_format%29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorbis

Vorbis wrapped in OGG is used heavily on Wikipedia for most (all?) audio clips.
e.g. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Musopen_-_In_the_Hall_Of_The_Mountain_King.ogg

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Re: Mozilla Foundation Security Advisory 2018-08

2018-03-20 Thread G. Ross 

NoOp wrote:

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2018-08/
Out of bounds memory write while processing Vorbis audio data
ANNOUNCED
March 16, 2018
IMPACT
CRITICAL
PRODUCTS
Firefox, Firefox ESR
FIXED IN
Firefox 59.0.1
Firefox ESR 52.7.2

Also see:
https://www.securityfocus.com/bid/103432

What version of ESR is SeaMonkey 2.49.2 using?



How common is vorbis audio data?

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Re: Mozilla Foundation Security Advisory 2018-08

2018-03-20 Thread WaltS48 

On 3/20/2018 10:59 AM, chokito wrote:

Official Builds 32 Bit
52.6.1.6610 SeaMonkey.exe (2.49.2)
52.7.2.6648 Frefox.exe (52.7.2)

WG9s SeaMonkey ESR Builds 64 Bit
52.7.2.6652 SeaMonkey.exe (2.49.3)



Thanks for the clarification.
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Re: Mozilla Foundation Security Advisory 2018-08

2018-03-20 Thread chokito 
Official Builds 32 Bit
52.6.1.6610 SeaMonkey.exe (2.49.2)
52.7.2.6648 Frefox.exe (52.7.2)

WG9s SeaMonkey ESR Builds 64 Bit
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Re: Slowdowns over time when using SeaMonkey

2018-03-20 Thread TCW 

On 3/20/2018 9:38 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 3/20/2018 at 10:22 AM, TCW created this epitome of digital genius:

On 3/20/2018 9:10 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 3/20/2018 at 9:55 AM, TCW created this epitome of digital genius:

On 3/20/2018 8:36 AM, Jonathan Wilson wrote:
If I use SeaMonkey (2.49.2 which seems to be the latest version) 
for a while and visit different sites and open and close windows 
and such, eventually it gets to the point where it slows down to 
the point of almost hanging and I need to close a bunch of windows 
(which takes ages since SeaMonkey is running so slow) before 
SeaMonkey will start being usable again. In some cases I have to 
force-close SeaMonkey completly because its totally hung and simply 
wont respond to my inputs.


I have noticed that using Google Maps and panning around is a great 
way to make this hanging/freezing/etc happen faster.


The last time it totally hung Task Manager told me there was almost 
no free physical memory (I have a total of 8GB) and that SeaMonkey 
was using a very large amount of RAM. I also noticed that when I 
attached to SM with a debugger, it was hanging somewhere in the 
windows memory allocation code (i.e. that was what was on top of 
the call stack) with some mozglue memory allocation code the next 
thing after the windows code.


Is this kind of hanging/freezing/slowdown a known thing? Is there a 
bugzilla bug (or bugs) that cover this issue? Is there anything 
that can be done to mitigate or work around the issue? Could one of 
my plugins (I use Addblock, ChatZilla, DOM Inspector, Geolocater, 
JavaScript Debugger and User Agent Switcher as extentions plus 
Acrobat, NVIDIA 3D, Silverlight, Window Live Photos and Flash as 
plugins) be the cause of the problems?


Yes, I have seen this as well. I am using a build of SM 2.53 and 
I've seen it happen browsing regular sites. It seems to be either a 
memory leak or the browser not releasing memory though garbage 
collection / cycle collection. I would not hold out hope for a fix 
since there are not many people working on SM at the moment.


I'm not seeing this at all.  SM 2.49.2 Win 10 Pro 64-bit.

I suspect an add-on or combination of add-ons.  I suggest trying Safe 
Mode to see if that is it.




I thought it was an add-on as well. Frank-Reiner had me switch to 
uBlock as I too thought ABP was culprit. Nope. I can 100% repro it 
when browsing on Momondo and AirBNB for a short period of time (15-30 
minutes) on my home or office PC. I'm on Win 7 x64 but I doubt it 
makes any difference.


Have you tried Safe Mode?



Yup.
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Re: Mozilla Foundation Security Advisory 2018-08

2018-03-20 Thread WaltS48 

On 3/20/18 12:42 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:

NoOp wrote:

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2018-08/
Out of bounds memory write while processing Vorbis audio data
ANNOUNCED
March 16, 2018
IMPACT
CRITICAL
PRODUCTS
Firefox, Firefox ESR
FIXED IN
Firefox 59.0.1
Firefox ESR 52.7.2

Also see:
https://www.securityfocus.com/bid/103432

What version of ESR is SeaMonkey 2.49.2 using?



ESR 52



I thought SM 2.49.2 was based on 52.7.0. So will there be a 2.49.2.1 to 
include the security fix, or will users have to wait until 2.49.3?


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Re: Slowdowns over time when using SeaMonkey

2018-03-20 Thread Ed Mullen 

On 3/20/2018 at 10:22 AM, TCW created this epitome of digital genius:

On 3/20/2018 9:10 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 3/20/2018 at 9:55 AM, TCW created this epitome of digital genius:

On 3/20/2018 8:36 AM, Jonathan Wilson wrote:
If I use SeaMonkey (2.49.2 which seems to be the latest version) for 
a while and visit different sites and open and close windows and 
such, eventually it gets to the point where it slows down to the 
point of almost hanging and I need to close a bunch of windows 
(which takes ages since SeaMonkey is running so slow) before 
SeaMonkey will start being usable again. In some cases I have to 
force-close SeaMonkey completly because its totally hung and simply 
wont respond to my inputs.


I have noticed that using Google Maps and panning around is a great 
way to make this hanging/freezing/etc happen faster.


The last time it totally hung Task Manager told me there was almost 
no free physical memory (I have a total of 8GB) and that SeaMonkey 
was using a very large amount of RAM. I also noticed that when I 
attached to SM with a debugger, it was hanging somewhere in the 
windows memory allocation code (i.e. that was what was on top of the 
call stack) with some mozglue memory allocation code the next thing 
after the windows code.


Is this kind of hanging/freezing/slowdown a known thing? Is there a 
bugzilla bug (or bugs) that cover this issue? Is there anything that 
can be done to mitigate or work around the issue? Could one of my 
plugins (I use Addblock, ChatZilla, DOM Inspector, Geolocater, 
JavaScript Debugger and User Agent Switcher as extentions plus 
Acrobat, NVIDIA 3D, Silverlight, Window Live Photos and Flash as 
plugins) be the cause of the problems?


Yes, I have seen this as well. I am using a build of SM 2.53 and I've 
seen it happen browsing regular sites. It seems to be either a memory 
leak or the browser not releasing memory though garbage collection / 
cycle collection. I would not hold out hope for a fix since there are 
not many people working on SM at the moment.


I'm not seeing this at all.  SM 2.49.2 Win 10 Pro 64-bit.

I suspect an add-on or combination of add-ons.  I suggest trying Safe 
Mode to see if that is it.




I thought it was an add-on as well. Frank-Reiner had me switch to uBlock 
as I too thought ABP was culprit. Nope. I can 100% repro it when 
browsing on Momondo and AirBNB for a short period of time (15-30 
minutes) on my home or office PC. I'm on Win 7 x64 but I doubt it makes 
any difference.


Have you tried Safe Mode?

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Re: Slowdowns over time when using SeaMonkey

2018-03-20 Thread TCW 

On 3/20/2018 9:10 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 3/20/2018 at 9:55 AM, TCW created this epitome of digital genius:

On 3/20/2018 8:36 AM, Jonathan Wilson wrote:
If I use SeaMonkey (2.49.2 which seems to be the latest version) for 
a while and visit different sites and open and close windows and 
such, eventually it gets to the point where it slows down to the 
point of almost hanging and I need to close a bunch of windows (which 
takes ages since SeaMonkey is running so slow) before SeaMonkey will 
start being usable again. In some cases I have to force-close 
SeaMonkey completly because its totally hung and simply wont respond 
to my inputs.


I have noticed that using Google Maps and panning around is a great 
way to make this hanging/freezing/etc happen faster.


The last time it totally hung Task Manager told me there was almost 
no free physical memory (I have a total of 8GB) and that SeaMonkey 
was using a very large amount of RAM. I also noticed that when I 
attached to SM with a debugger, it was hanging somewhere in the 
windows memory allocation code (i.e. that was what was on top of the 
call stack) with some mozglue memory allocation code the next thing 
after the windows code.


Is this kind of hanging/freezing/slowdown a known thing? Is there a 
bugzilla bug (or bugs) that cover this issue? Is there anything that 
can be done to mitigate or work around the issue? Could one of my 
plugins (I use Addblock, ChatZilla, DOM Inspector, Geolocater, 
JavaScript Debugger and User Agent Switcher as extentions plus 
Acrobat, NVIDIA 3D, Silverlight, Window Live Photos and Flash as 
plugins) be the cause of the problems?


Yes, I have seen this as well. I am using a build of SM 2.53 and I've 
seen it happen browsing regular sites. It seems to be either a memory 
leak or the browser not releasing memory though garbage collection / 
cycle collection. I would not hold out hope for a fix since there are 
not many people working on SM at the moment.


I'm not seeing this at all.  SM 2.49.2 Win 10 Pro 64-bit.

I suspect an add-on or combination of add-ons.  I suggest trying Safe 
Mode to see if that is it.




I thought it was an add-on as well. Frank-Reiner had me switch to uBlock 
as I too thought ABP was culprit. Nope. I can 100% repro it when 
browsing on Momondo and AirBNB for a short period of time (15-30 
minutes) on my home or office PC. I'm on Win 7 x64 but I doubt it makes 
any difference.

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Re: Slowdowns over time when using SeaMonkey

2018-03-20 Thread Ed Mullen 

On 3/20/2018 at 9:55 AM, TCW created this epitome of digital genius:

On 3/20/2018 8:36 AM, Jonathan Wilson wrote:
If I use SeaMonkey (2.49.2 which seems to be the latest version) for a 
while and visit different sites and open and close windows and such, 
eventually it gets to the point where it slows down to the point of 
almost hanging and I need to close a bunch of windows (which takes 
ages since SeaMonkey is running so slow) before SeaMonkey will start 
being usable again. In some cases I have to force-close SeaMonkey 
completly because its totally hung and simply wont respond to my inputs.


I have noticed that using Google Maps and panning around is a great 
way to make this hanging/freezing/etc happen faster.


The last time it totally hung Task Manager told me there was almost no 
free physical memory (I have a total of 8GB) and that SeaMonkey was 
using a very large amount of RAM. I also noticed that when I attached 
to SM with a debugger, it was hanging somewhere in the windows memory 
allocation code (i.e. that was what was on top of the call stack) with 
some mozglue memory allocation code the next thing after the windows 
code.


Is this kind of hanging/freezing/slowdown a known thing? Is there a 
bugzilla bug (or bugs) that cover this issue? Is there anything that 
can be done to mitigate or work around the issue? Could one of my 
plugins (I use Addblock, ChatZilla, DOM Inspector, Geolocater, 
JavaScript Debugger and User Agent Switcher as extentions plus 
Acrobat, NVIDIA 3D, Silverlight, Window Live Photos and Flash as 
plugins) be the cause of the problems?


Yes, I have seen this as well. I am using a build of SM 2.53 and I've 
seen it happen browsing regular sites. It seems to be either a memory 
leak or the browser not releasing memory though garbage collection / 
cycle collection. I would not hold out hope for a fix since there are 
not many people working on SM at the moment.


I'm not seeing this at all.  SM 2.49.2 Win 10 Pro 64-bit.

I suspect an add-on or combination of add-ons.  I suggest trying Safe 
Mode to see if that is it.


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Re: Slowdowns over time when using SeaMonkey

2018-03-20 Thread TCW 

On 3/20/2018 8:36 AM, Jonathan Wilson wrote:
If I use SeaMonkey (2.49.2 which seems to be the latest version) for a 
while and visit different sites and open and close windows and such, 
eventually it gets to the point where it slows down to the point of 
almost hanging and I need to close a bunch of windows (which takes ages 
since SeaMonkey is running so slow) before SeaMonkey will start being 
usable again. In some cases I have to force-close SeaMonkey completly 
because its totally hung and simply wont respond to my inputs.


I have noticed that using Google Maps and panning around is a great way 
to make this hanging/freezing/etc happen faster.


The last time it totally hung Task Manager told me there was almost no 
free physical memory (I have a total of 8GB) and that SeaMonkey was 
using a very large amount of RAM. I also noticed that when I attached to 
SM with a debugger, it was hanging somewhere in the windows memory 
allocation code (i.e. that was what was on top of the call stack) with 
some mozglue memory allocation code the next thing after the windows code.


Is this kind of hanging/freezing/slowdown a known thing? Is there a 
bugzilla bug (or bugs) that cover this issue? Is there anything that can 
be done to mitigate or work around the issue? Could one of my plugins (I 
use Addblock, ChatZilla, DOM Inspector, Geolocater, JavaScript Debugger 
and User Agent Switcher as extentions plus Acrobat, NVIDIA 3D, 
Silverlight, Window Live Photos and Flash as plugins) be the cause of 
the problems?


Yes, I have seen this as well. I am using a build of SM 2.53 and I've 
seen it happen browsing regular sites. It seems to be either a memory 
leak or the browser not releasing memory though garbage collection / 
cycle collection. I would not hold out hope for a fix since there are 
not many people working on SM at the moment.

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Slowdowns over time when using SeaMonkey

2018-03-20 Thread Jonathan Wilson 
If I use SeaMonkey (2.49.2 which seems to be the latest version) for a 
while and visit different sites and open and close windows and such, 
eventually it gets to the point where it slows down to the point of almost 
hanging and I need to close a bunch of windows (which takes ages since 
SeaMonkey is running so slow) before SeaMonkey will start being usable 
again. In some cases I have to force-close SeaMonkey completly because its 
totally hung and simply wont respond to my inputs.


I have noticed that using Google Maps and panning around is a great way to 
make this hanging/freezing/etc happen faster.


The last time it totally hung Task Manager told me there was almost no free 
physical memory (I have a total of 8GB) and that SeaMonkey was using a very 
large amount of RAM. I also noticed that when I attached to SM with a 
debugger, it was hanging somewhere in the windows memory allocation code 
(i.e. that was what was on top of the call stack) with some mozglue memory 
allocation code the next thing after the windows code.


Is this kind of hanging/freezing/slowdown a known thing? Is there a 
bugzilla bug (or bugs) that cover this issue? Is there anything that can be 
done to mitigate or work around the issue? Could one of my plugins (I use 
Addblock, ChatZilla, DOM Inspector, Geolocater, JavaScript Debugger and 
User Agent Switcher as extentions plus Acrobat, NVIDIA 3D, Silverlight, 
Window Live Photos and Flash as plugins) be the cause of the problems?

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Re: Mozilla Foundation Security Advisory 2018-08

2018-03-20 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey 

On 3/19/2018 9:55 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 3/19/2018 9:42 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:

NoOp wrote:

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2018-08/
Out of bounds memory write while processing Vorbis audio data
ANNOUNCED
March 16, 2018
IMPACT
CRITICAL
PRODUCTS
Firefox, Firefox ESR
FIXED IN
Firefox 59.0.1
Firefox ESR 52.7.2

Also see:
https://www.securityfocus.com/bid/103432

What version of ESR is SeaMonkey 2.49.2 using?



ESR 52



Mozilla Firefox ESR 52.1.1?


I think v52.0. See its user agent for Windows: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
SeaMonkey/2.49.2. :(




Will there be a SeaMonkey 2.29.3?


I hope so and CCed mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey newsgroup to see if anyone 
knows about it.

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Re: Mozilla Foundation Security Advisory 2018-08

2018-03-20 Thread NoOp 
On 3/19/2018 9:55 PM, NoOp wrote:
> On 3/19/2018 9:42 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:
...
>> ESR 52
>> 
> 
> Mozilla Firefox ESR 52.1.1?
> 
> Will there be a SeaMonkey 2.29.3?
> 
C/SeaMonkey 2.49.3?
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