Re: Memory cache was reset after upgrade

[Dirk Munk]

JAS wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Why don't you just use "Let SeaMonkey manage the size of my cache" in
Advanced->Cache?

FRG

I am using Seamonkey 2.48 on Windows 7 wit 8gb memory and my browser 
freezes all the time, I have

disk-cache set to "let Seamonkey set"
and in about:config I have the following:

browser.cache.memory.max_entry_size;5120

browser.cache.memory.enable;true
What should the settings be?

Thanks,
JAS


Frank-Rainer wrote the default setting is 20, so about 200MB. You 
are running with 5MB, no wonder it's freezing.
I was running with 500MB, and that didn't work for me. I had big 
problems, not just freezing. So now I'm running with 4GB (and lots of 
open Tabs!!).

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Re: Memory cache was reset after upgrade

[JAS]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Why don't you just use "Let SeaMonkey manage the size of my cache" in
Advanced->Cache?

FRG

I am using Seamonkey 2.48 on Windows 7 wit 8gb memory and my browser 
freezes all the time, I have

disk-cache set to "let Seamonkey set"
and in about:config I have the following:

browser.cache.memory.max_entry_size;5120

browser.cache.memory.enable;true
What should the settings be?

Thanks,
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SOLVED Re: Cookie Problem

[David E. Ross]

See my comments within your quoted reply.

On 2/15/2019 5:41 AM, Lee wrote:
> On 2/14/19, David E. Ross  wrote:
>> Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
>> ozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
>>  SeaMonkey/2.49.4
>>
>> I created a special profile just for handling online transactions
>> through financial institutions where I have accounts.
> 
> Which means online transactions with your financial institutions,
> online purchasing or what?  In other words, how do cookies from
> youtube.com and doubleclick.net come into the picture?

I retrieve monthly checking and credit card statements, pay bills
electronically, transfer funds between checking and savings, transfer
funds between financial institutions, verify that direct deposits have
been made, and retrieve tax forms (e.g., Form 1099-INT).  I do NOT make
any online purchases via this particular SeaMonkey profile.

I have no idea why this one financial institution's Web server is
interfacing with youtube.com and doubleclick.net.  I do know that what I
see when I use the "Live HTTP headers" extension -- both setting and
reading cookies by those domains' servers -- is a violation of that
institution's stated privacy policy.


>>  I found this to
>> be necessary because they want my browser to have settings that are
>> different from the settings I prefer for general browsing.
>>
>> One financial institution wants me to accept cookies from three
>> third-party domains in order for me to access my monthly statements.
>> Two of those domains are no problem; cookies from them already exist in
>> the profile.
>>
>> The third domain, however, sets a session-only cookie.  This means the
>> preference that allows cookies from domains I directly visit plus
>> existing third-party cookies does not work since such a cookie is
>> deleted when I previously left that profile.  In Data Manager, I set a
>> preference to allow cookies from that domain; but it does not seem to
>> work.
>>
>> If I set the preference to allow ALL cookies, I then get cookies from
>> youtube.com and doubleclick.net, which I really do not want.  I set
>> preferences to block those cookies, but they still appear.  Using the
>> "Live HTTP headers" extension, I found that not only are cookies being
>> set for those two domains but that cookie data are being sent back to
>> those domains (which are owned by Google).
>>
>> What can I do to fix this?
> 
> Have you looked at uMatrix?
> 
> I'm not sure what you're doing, so not sure if uMatrix can help, but
> you can set rules that allow/block cookies, javascript, images, etc.
> from other sites based on the site you're visiting.
> 
> Requestpolicy Continued is another addon that has the same idea -
>  site is allowed to make requests to  other sites, but I
> don't think it's been upgraded to whatever it is that Firefox now uses
> for addons so dunno how much longer SeaMonkey will support it.
> 
> Regards,
> Lee
> 

I solved the problem via a kludge.  I installed Adblock Plus in this
particular profile and set the filter to block "*youtube.com*" and
"*doubleclick.net*".  I tested this and cookies from those domains are
no longer being set.  I still have to test with "Live HTTP headers" to
see if I am blocking ALL communication with the youtube.com and
doubleclick.net servers.

-- 
David E. Ross

Trump again proves he is a major source of fake news.  He wants
to cut off disaster funds to repair the damage caused by the
Woolsey Fire in southern California because he claims the state
fails to manage its forests properly.  The Woolsey Fire was NOT
a forest fire.  Starting in an industrial tract, it did not burn
through any forests.

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Re: Cookie Problem

[Lee]

On 2/14/19, David E. Ross  wrote:
> Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
> ozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
>   SeaMonkey/2.49.4
>
> I created a special profile just for handling online transactions
> through financial institutions where I have accounts.

Which means online transactions with your financial institutions,
online purchasing or what?  In other words, how do cookies from
youtube.com and doubleclick.net come into the picture?

>  I found this to
> be necessary because they want my browser to have settings that are
> different from the settings I prefer for general browsing.
>
> One financial institution wants me to accept cookies from three
> third-party domains in order for me to access my monthly statements.
> Two of those domains are no problem; cookies from them already exist in
> the profile.
>
> The third domain, however, sets a session-only cookie.  This means the
> preference that allows cookies from domains I directly visit plus
> existing third-party cookies does not work since such a cookie is
> deleted when I previously left that profile.  In Data Manager, I set a
> preference to allow cookies from that domain; but it does not seem to
> work.
>
> If I set the preference to allow ALL cookies, I then get cookies from
> youtube.com and doubleclick.net, which I really do not want.  I set
> preferences to block those cookies, but they still appear.  Using the
> "Live HTTP headers" extension, I found that not only are cookies being
> set for those two domains but that cookie data are being sent back to
> those domains (which are owned by Google).
>
> What can I do to fix this?

Have you looked at uMatrix?

I'm not sure what you're doing, so not sure if uMatrix can help, but
you can set rules that allow/block cookies, javascript, images, etc.
from other sites based on the site you're visiting.

Requestpolicy Continued is another addon that has the same idea -
 site is allowed to make requests to  other sites, but I
don't think it's been upgraded to whatever it is that Firefox now uses
for addons so dunno how much longer SeaMonkey will support it.

Regards,
Lee
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Re: 2.53 64 bit has those American timestamps again

[Dirk Munk]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Mozilla overhauled the intl api.

Appearance -> Date and Time Formatting

If this doesn't help please file a bug with pictures/examples 
including the setting.


Otherwise 2.57 will probably be the same.

FRG



Dirk Munk wrote:
Unfortunately the 64 bit 2.53 version has the American date and time 
stamps again, instead of the date and time stamps I set up in the 
Windows regional settings (24 hour clock etc.).

Ah, thanks. That did the trick.
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Re: Memory cache was reset after upgrade

[Dirk Munk]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
Why don't you just use "Let SeaMonkey manage the size of my cache" in 
Advanced->Cache?


FRG


As far as I'm aware, that's only for the disk cache.




Dirk Munk wrote:

Dirk Munk wrote:

I'm using the 64 bit builds of WG9s.

I'm very happy with them in general.

However, after installing a new version of 2.49.5 a short while ago, 
I  experienced some weird problems like keystrokes that became 
garbled, very sluggish responses etc. A new upgrade to 2.53 didn't 
help, so I tried to figure out what might be the cause.


Then I had a hunch, and I checked the config file for the browser 
cache setting. It was just about 0.5 GB, and I'm sure it was much 
bigger.


I've now increased browser.cache.memory.capacity to 2 GB (2097152), 
and all problems are gone.
After increasing browser.cache.memory.capacity to 4 GB (4194304), the 
browser runs even more smoothly. Nice.


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Re: Memory cache was reset after upgrade

[Dirk Munk]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
Default for browser.cache.memory.capacity seems to be 20. Never 
hand any problems here in countless installations. Is your disk 
slooo or an AV interfering?


FRG


No, but I always have many, many tabs open, and disk cache can not 
replace memory cache. Furthermore, when I have plenty of memory, why 
force Seamonkey to use the disk cache if I can give it plenty of memory?


Decades ago when I started in the IT, I already learned that giving 
applications plenty of memory really helps to speed up things. I once 
replaced a computer system (not x86) by another one that was basically 
the same. Just slightly faster CPUs and more memory. I set everything up 
to do as much as possible in memory, and the thing went 11 times faster 
than it predecessor.





Dirk Munk wrote:

Gabriel wrote:

Dirk Munk wrote on 14/02/2019 14:51:

Dirk Munk wrote:

I'm using the 64 bit builds of WG9s.

I'm very happy with them in general.

However, after installing a new version of 2.49.5 a short while 
ago, I  experienced some weird problems like keystrokes that 
became garbled, very sluggish responses etc. A new upgrade to 2.53 
didn't help, so I tried to figure out what might be the cause.


Then I had a hunch, and I checked the config file for the browser 
cache setting. It was just about 0.5 GB, and I'm sure it was much 
bigger.


I've now increased browser.cache.memory.capacity to 2 GB 
(2097152), and all problems are gone.
After increasing browser.cache.memory.capacity to 4 GB (4194304), 
the browser runs even more smoothly. Nice.



What's the difference with the "let SM manage the size of my cache" 
preference?


That is the disk cache, so files on disk, I'm talking about the 
memory cache, in RAM.


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Re: Memory cache was reset after upgrade

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Default for browser.cache.memory.capacity seems to be 20. Never hand any 
problems here in countless installations. Is your disk slooo or an AV 
interfering?


FRG

Dirk Munk wrote:

Gabriel wrote:

Dirk Munk wrote on 14/02/2019 14:51:

Dirk Munk wrote:

I'm using the 64 bit builds of WG9s.

I'm very happy with them in general.

However, after installing a new version of 2.49.5 a short while ago, I  
experienced some weird problems like keystrokes that became garbled, very 
sluggish responses etc. A new upgrade to 2.53 didn't help, so I tried to 
figure out what might be the cause.


Then I had a hunch, and I checked the config file for the browser cache 
setting. It was just about 0.5 GB, and I'm sure it was much bigger.


I've now increased browser.cache.memory.capacity to 2 GB (2097152), and 
all problems are gone.
After increasing browser.cache.memory.capacity to 4 GB (4194304), the 
browser runs even more smoothly. Nice.



What's the difference with the "let SM manage the size of my cache" preference?


That is the disk cache, so files on disk, I'm talking about the memory cache, 
in RAM.

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Re: 2.53 64 bit has those American timestamps again

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Mozilla overhauled the intl api.

Appearance -> Date and Time Formatting

If this doesn't help please file a bug with pictures/examples including the 
setting.


Otherwise 2.57 will probably be the same.

FRG



Dirk Munk wrote:
Unfortunately the 64 bit 2.53 version has the American date and time stamps 
again, instead of the date and time stamps I set up in the Windows regional 
settings (24 hour clock etc.).

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Re: Memory cache was reset after upgrade

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Why don't you just use "Let SeaMonkey manage the size of my cache" in 
Advanced->Cache?


FRG


Dirk Munk wrote:

Dirk Munk wrote:

I'm using the 64 bit builds of WG9s.

I'm very happy with them in general.

However, after installing a new version of 2.49.5 a short while ago, I  
experienced some weird problems like keystrokes that became garbled, very 
sluggish responses etc. A new upgrade to 2.53 didn't help, so I tried to 
figure out what might be the cause.


Then I had a hunch, and I checked the config file for the browser cache 
setting. It was just about 0.5 GB, and I'm sure it was much bigger.


I've now increased browser.cache.memory.capacity to 2 GB (2097152), and all 
problems are gone.
After increasing browser.cache.memory.capacity to 4 GB (4194304), the browser 
runs even more smoothly. Nice.

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Re: Cookie Problem

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Basically vou need to set the full hosts including the scheme. Permissions are 
orgin based since 2.39. Not sure if it will help with unblocking third parties.


FRG

David E. Ross wrote:

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
ozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.4

I created a special profile just for handling online transactions
through financial institutions where I have accounts.  I found this to
be necessary because they want my browser to have settings that are
different from the settings I prefer for general browsing.

One financial institution wants me to accept cookies from three
third-party domains in order for me to access my monthly statements.
Two of those domains are no problem; cookies from them already exist in
the profile.

The third domain, however, sets a session-only cookie.  This means the
preference that allows cookies from domains I directly visit plus
existing third-party cookies does not work since such a cookie is
deleted when I previously left that profile.  In Data Manager, I set a
preference to allow cookies from that domain; but it does not seem to
work.

If I set the preference to allow ALL cookies, I then get cookies from
youtube.com and doubleclick.net, which I really do not want.  I set
preferences to block those cookies, but they still appear.  Using the
"Live HTTP headers" extension, I found that not only are cookies being
set for those two domains but that cookie data are being sent back to
those domains (which are owned by Google).

What can I do to fix this?


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Re: 2.53 64 bit has those American timestamps again

[Ray_Net]

Dirk Munk wrote on 15-02-19 15:01:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Mozilla overhauled the intl api.

Appearance -> Date and Time Formatting

If this doesn't help please file a bug with pictures/examples 
including the setting.


Otherwise 2.57 will probably be the same.

FRG



Dirk Munk wrote:
Unfortunately the 64 bit 2.53 version has the American date and time 
stamps again, instead of the date and time stamps I set up in the 
Windows regional settings (24 hour clock etc.).

Ah, thanks. That did the trick.

In my SM I did not see:
Appearance -> Date and Time Formatting

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Re: 2.53 64 bit has those American timestamps again

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

It is only in 2.57 and the unoffical 2.53. 2.49.x does not have the new intl 
apis.

FRG

Ray_Net wrote:

Dirk Munk wrote on 15-02-19 15:01:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Mozilla overhauled the intl api.

Appearance -> Date and Time Formatting

If this doesn't help please file a bug with pictures/examples including the 
setting.


Otherwise 2.57 will probably be the same.

FRG



Dirk Munk wrote:
Unfortunately the 64 bit 2.53 version has the American date and time 
stamps again, instead of the date and time stamps I set up in the Windows 
regional settings (24 hour clock etc.).

Ah, thanks. That did the trick.

In my SM I did not see:
Appearance -> Date and Time Formatting


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Re: Links in emails not sending?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Rick & Sharon wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Are you saying that SeaMonkey is not recognizing and activating URLs 
in plain-text messages, or that your senders are formatting URLs as 
plain text in HTML messages?


For example, if I write http://www.example.com, does it remain plain 
text, or does SM recognize and activate it as a clickable link?


Messages arrive as HTML.  In the message preview window of SM, with the 
message displayed, I see a sentence, with 2 words underlined, and 
hovering over that changes the cursor as expected for a hyperlink.  But 
clicking does nothing, and I do not see the expected URL of the link in 
the status bar at the bottom of the SM mail window.  If I view the 
message source (Ctrl-U), I can find the section which includes the 
on-screen text.


In one email, the on-screen text is followed by what appears to be an 
index "[1]" which you don't see on the HTML render.  Other items have 
similar but different indexes next to them, and there is a "Links:" 
section to the doc, with those same links defined.  The first such link 
includes the URL that I should be referred to by the hyperlink.


From the source, here's part of the message just after the routing and 
AV status messages from the header:


...

{Openquote  "Any questions? No need to call. Just take a look at our 
guide [1] where you'll find everything you need to know.


  Plusnet Community [2]

  Plusnet Help [3]

  Facebook [4]

  YouTube [5]

...

Links:
--
[1] 
https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/How-to-change-your-outgoing-server-on-a-mail-client/td-p/1606155?utm_source=customerutm_medium=res-emailutm_content=update_email_settingsutm_campaign=spf_records 


...

Wordy, but it explains what I'm seeing (or not).  Ideas?


In this case, it seems clear that the sender is to blame. They're using 
footnotes and putting the URLs in the notes, not hyperlinking them in 
the body text.


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Re: How to install "remove duplicate messages alternate"?

[Rob Steinmetz]

Rubens wrote:

Gabriel wrote on 12/02/2019 19:00:

Hi all,

I need to clean some local mail folders, is there a way to install the 
add-on "remove_duplicate_messages_alternate-0.3.17b1-tb.xpi"? On SM 
2.49.4 macOS.


If not, what do you suggest to remove duplicate messages?
TIA!

G.


Yes, submitting it into the Add-Ons Converter website 
(https://addonconverter.fotokraina.com)

it installed and worked normally in my SM 2.49.4.

RF

I can confirm that. I use it all the time.
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Re: Last Seamonkey version using .xpi

[David E. Ross]

On 2/15/2019 1:51 PM, JAS wrote:
> What is the last stable Seamonkey version using the .xpi for extensions 
> and not the webextensions? Is it Version 249.4?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> JAS
> 
> 

So far, it is 2.49.4.

-- 
David E. Ross

Trump again proves he is a major source of fake news.  He wants
to cut off disaster funds to repair the damage caused by the
Woolsey Fire in southern California because he claims the state
fails to manage its forests properly.  The Woolsey Fire was NOT
a forest fire.  Starting in an industrial tract, it did not burn
through any forests.

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Re: Memory cache was reset after upgrade

[JAS]

Dirk Munk wrote:

JAS wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Why don't you just use "Let SeaMonkey manage the size of my cache" in
Advanced->Cache?

FRG


I am using Seamonkey 2.48 on Windows 7 wit 8gb memory and my browser
freezes all the time, I have
disk-cache set to "let Seamonkey set"
and in about:config I have the following:

browser.cache.memory.max_entry_size;5120

browser.cache.memory.enable;true
What should the settings be?

Thanks,
JAS


Frank-Rainer wrote the default setting is 20, so about 200MB. You
are running with 5MB, no wonder it's freezing.
I was running with 500MB, and that didn't work for me. I had big
problems, not just freezing. So now I'm running with 4GB (and lots of
open Tabs!!).

I have reset to 20 and we we see if it helps.
Thanks
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Re: Links in emails not sending?

[Rick & Sharon]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Rick & Sharon wrote:


Win10 Pro workgroup PC.
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4---Build identifier: 
20180713174829


Have recently noticed that hyperlinks in received messages don't show 
URL info at the bottom of the current window, and also don't do 
anything when clicked.  The cursor does change when hovering so the 
link is recognized, it's just not acted on.  If I use 'Copy link 
location' and then try to paste that, there's nothing to paste.


Most of the time email links are a no-no, but 2 have been legitimate 
(one from my AV supplier, one from my ISP) and both failed to do 
anything.


Nothing obvious in Preferences, and shutting my AV completely off had 
no effect.


Are you saying that SeaMonkey is not recognizing and activating URLs in 
plain-text messages, or that your senders are formatting URLs as plain 
text in HTML messages?


For example, if I write http://www.example.com, does it remain plain 
text, or does SM recognize and activate it as a clickable link?


Messages arrive as HTML.  In the message preview window of SM, with the 
message displayed, I see a sentence, with 2 words underlined, and 
hovering over that changes the cursor as expected for a hyperlink.  But 
clicking does nothing, and I do not see the expected URL of the link in 
the status bar at the bottom of the SM mail window.  If I view the 
message source (Ctrl-U), I can find the section which includes the 
on-screen text.


In one email, the on-screen text is followed by what appears to be an 
index "[1]" which you don't see on the HTML render.  Other items have 
similar but different indexes next to them, and there is a "Links:" 
section to the doc, with those same links defined.  The first such link 
includes the URL that I should be referred to by the hyperlink.


From the source, here's part of the message just after the routing and 
AV status messages from the header:


{Openquote  "This is a multipart message in MIME format.

--=_0931b06fb16784e0bd59e458376562d2
Content-Type: text/plain;
  charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Important - you might need to update your email settings

We're changing the way our emails work" EndQuote}

Then there's some body text, and then the end of the first part:

{Openquote  "Any questions? No need to call. Just take a look at our 
guide [1] where you'll find everything you need to know.


Plusnet Community [2]

Plusnet Help [3]

Facebook [4]

YouTube [5]

 Plusnet plc
Registered Office: The Balance, 2 Pinfold Street, Sheffield, S1 2GU
Registered in England no: 3279013
VAT No: 245 7193 48



Links:
--
[1] 
https://community.plus.net/t5/Email/How-to-change-your-outgoing-server-on-a-mail-client/td-p/1606155?utm_source=customerutm_medium=res-emailutm_content=update_email_settingsutm_campaign=spf_records

[2] https://community.plus.net/
[3] http://www.twitter.com/plusnethelp
[4] http://www.facebook.com/plusnet
[5] http://www.youtube.com/PlusNetTV; EndQuote}

I have the same behavior with the message in the preview pane, or opened 
in its own window, and none of those links works.


The second part of the message is a Base64-graphic which appears to be 
the background graphic everything else is laid down on.


A previous message from another source had a small on-screen green 
rectangle with enbedded text as another hyperlink.  The layout of the 
message source was nowhere near as described above, but the URL was 
clearly available in the source, and did resolve/render when I pasted it 
into my browser address bar.  I can't copy that link because it was 
against my existing AVG account.


Wordy, but it explains what I'm seeing (or not).  Ideas?
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Last Seamonkey version using .xpi

[JAS]

What is the last stable Seamonkey version using the .xpi for extensions 
and not the webextensions? Is it Version 249.4?


Thanks,

JAS


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Re: Last Seamonkey version using .xpi

[WaltS48]

On 2/15/19 4:51 PM, JAS wrote:
What is the last stable Seamonkey version using the .xpi for extensions 
and not the webextensions? Is it Version 249.4?


Thanks,

JAS




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