Re: SeaMonkey crash

2013-01-23 Thread Connie

Rob wrote:


Open the windows file explorer (not the internet explorer) and go
to C:\Documents and Settings\Connie\Application Data\Mozilla.
It may be that you need to click away some notices by Windows that
you do not need to go there.   It may also be that you need to
go to Extra -  Options and checkmark the show hidden files option.

In that location you should find a profiles.ini and one or more
subfolders with funny names.  See what you have there, what date
and time there is on those folders and show us the content of that
profiles.ini file.

That should help locating the folder that holds all your previous
mail and settings.


Hallo

Good news, bad news

I've found the file but it's dated 18 Jan.  SeaMonkey was working fine 
on 12 Jan.  It wasn't on 13 Jan.  The bookmarks is only 1KB and it 
should be a /lot/ bigger than that.  An out of date version is 330KB. 
 It probably should be closer to 500KB now.  It looks as though the 
browser side is totally gone.  Two folders of collated bookmarks were 
recently added to but I should be able to use the old version to 
re-create the majority which I'll do manually.


Under the Mozilla heading, all the mail up to the crash date seems to 
be there.  Looking at the Inbox file on one of the two main accounts, 
it's showing 73,011 KB, which sounds about right.  The Inbox.msf file 
is reading 183KB.  All the email accounts are there and a quick check 
is showing that recently added folders under the Local Folders heading 
are also there.


Question is how do I get those mails and folders back?  Do I trust 
SeaMonkey not to crash again given that those who've had a similar 
thing happen have been using different OSs and/or versions of 
SeaMonkey?  Or do I try Thunderbird if it's possible to transfer from 
one program to the other?  Will the mails and folders transfer intact 
from my original 1.1.14 via 2.0.14 to a newer version or will it all 
turn turtle again?


I know, loads of questions but I'm wary of SeaMonkey now.

Connie in London
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Re: SeaMonkey crash

2013-01-23 Thread Rob
Connie connie.spar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rob wrote:

 Open the windows file explorer (not the internet explorer) and go
 to C:\Documents and Settings\Connie\Application Data\Mozilla.
 It may be that you need to click away some notices by Windows that
 you do not need to go there.   It may also be that you need to
 go to Extra -  Options and checkmark the show hidden files option.

 In that location you should find a profiles.ini and one or more
 subfolders with funny names.  See what you have there, what date
 and time there is on those folders and show us the content of that
 profiles.ini file.

 That should help locating the folder that holds all your previous
 mail and settings.

 Hallo

 Good news, bad news

 I've found the file but it's dated 18 Jan.  SeaMonkey was working fine 
 on 12 Jan.  It wasn't on 13 Jan.  The bookmarks is only 1KB and it 
 should be a /lot/ bigger than that.  An out of date version is 330KB. 
   It probably should be closer to 500KB now.  It looks as though the 
 browser side is totally gone.  Two folders of collated bookmarks were 
 recently added to but I should be able to use the old version to 
 re-create the majority which I'll do manually.

The bookmarks file is no longer used.  That info is now in places.sqlite.

 Under the Mozilla heading, all the mail up to the crash date seems to 
 be there.  Looking at the Inbox file on one of the two main accounts, 
 it's showing 73,011 KB, which sounds about right.  The Inbox.msf file 
 is reading 183KB.  All the email accounts are there and a quick check 
 is showing that recently added folders under the Local Folders heading 
 are also there.

 Question is how do I get those mails and folders back?  Do I trust 

When your current profile is different from the one where you found the
mail, you can create the required mail account in the new profile, then
close the program and using the explorer copy the folder Mail from the
old profile to the new profile.   This is where all your mail files are.

When you then start Seamonkey again, the mail should be back.

To be sure, I would install version 2.14.1 and not 2.15 or higher.
There appears to be a problem in that version, as I have seen a couple
of postings about suddenly losing the profile.
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Re: SeaMonkey crash

2013-01-23 Thread Connie

Rob wrote:


When your current profile is different from the one where you found the
mail, you can create the required mail account in the new profile, then
close the program and using the explorer copy the folder Mail from the
old profile to the new profile.   This is where all your mail files are.

When you then start Seamonkey again, the mail should be back.

To be sure, I would install version 2.14.1 and not 2.15 or higher.
There appears to be a problem in that version, as I have seen a couple
of postings about suddenly losing the profile.


Hallo

OK, I'll uninstall the current version of SeaMonkey and install 2.14.1 
or will the latter install over my current version?


Do I create each account, then copy across the mail folder to the new 
profile?  Sorry, if that's a basic (dozy) question but I don't want to 
mess everything up and lose all the mails since they seem to all be 
there right now.


Connie in London
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Re: SeaMonkey crash

2013-01-23 Thread Rob
Connie connie.spar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rob wrote:

 When your current profile is different from the one where you found the
 mail, you can create the required mail account in the new profile, then
 close the program and using the explorer copy the folder Mail from the
 old profile to the new profile.   This is where all your mail files are.

 When you then start Seamonkey again, the mail should be back.

 To be sure, I would install version 2.14.1 and not 2.15 or higher.
 There appears to be a problem in that version, as I have seen a couple
 of postings about suddenly losing the profile.

 Hallo

 OK, I'll uninstall the current version of SeaMonkey and install 2.14.1 
 or will the latter install over my current version?

I always install the old version, then install the new one.  The uninstall
is very quick (5 seconds) so this should be no problem.

 Do I create each account, then copy across the mail folder to the new 
 profile?  Sorry, if that's a basic (dozy) question but I don't want to 
 mess everything up and lose all the mails since they seem to all be 
 there right now.

 Connie in London

Of course you can always copy that Mail folder where all your mail is
now to a safe place (e.g. in your documents directory) before doing
anything else.

In general, it would also be a good idea to make backups of a system
where you have valuable information.  Right now you have a small
problem because some linkage between the software and your information
has been disturbed.  But next time you can have a crashed disk or
stolen laptop and you simply lose everything without recourse.

USB memory sticks with multi-gigabyte capacity and external disks with
hundreds or thousands of gigabytes are very cheap these days, and you
can make backups of the whole system or just your own files on them.
Then, when you have problems you can always restore what you had last
time you made a backup.
(e.g. each week or each day when you have a lot of changing information)
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Re: v2.15.1 is out now. EOM

2013-01-23 Thread Bill Davidsen

Ant wrote:


I wish there was a working version of Lightning for 2.15, I'm not deliberately 
holding back, but I really need calendar. Is it possible that whoever produces 
the Linux-x86_64 version could put a link to the calendar as well? Since Mozilla 
builds that version, it would be helpful to *find* it! I have all sorts of 
places to look, at least three URLs where Lightning for processors released in 
this millenium may be found, but it sometimes works and sometimes not, and even 
with the compatibility checking as off as I can get it, two won't load and one 
won't work.


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taken the first step. The steps are many, but finite in number, and if
we persevere we will reach our destination.  -me, 2010


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Any problems with version 12.15.1?

2013-01-23 Thread Lee

Am asking because I am.  Am just curious as have had no problems
over the last few revisions and it was working smooth as silk.

I find it timing it self out quite often

I find old msgs keep coming up even after being shown read and
yes I have compacted the folders  they show EXPIRED going back
to may of 2011 did not have this problem as I said before updating.

A very limited posts to the newsgroups I subscribe to!  Alt
binaries rec-outdoors rv  also can't post any msgs to this group!

All small items but figured I would ask before I got to USENET
and register a complaint.
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Any problems with version 12.15.1?

2013-01-23 Thread Lee

Am asking because I am.  Am just curious as have had no problems
over the last few revisions and it was working smooth as silk.

I find it timing it self out quite often

I find old msgs keep coming up even after being shown read and
yes I have compacted the folders  they show EXPIRED going back
to may of 2011 did not have this problem as I said before updating.

A very limited posts to the newsgroups I subscribe to!  Alt
binaries rec-outdoors rv  also can't post any msgs to this group!

All small items but figured I would ask before I got to USENET
and register a complaint.
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Re: v2.15.1 is out now. EOM

2013-01-23 Thread WaltS
Bill Davidsen wrote:
 Ant wrote:

 I wish there was a working version of Lightning for 2.15, I'm not
 deliberately holding back, but I really need calendar. Is it possible
 that whoever produces the Linux-x86_64 version could put a link to the
 calendar as well? Since Mozilla builds that version, it would be helpful
 to *find* it! I have all sorts of places to look, at least three URLs
 where Lightning for processors released in this millenium may be found,
 but it sometimes works and sometimes not, and even with the
 compatibility checking as off as I can get it, two won't load and one
 won't work.
 

Lightning 2.0b1 is working in my Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64;
rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15.1 version.

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/2.0b1-candidates/build1/linux-x86_64/

Not sure if that is where I got it.

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Re: v2.15.1 is out now. EOM

2013-01-23 Thread NoOp
On 01/23/2013 09:29 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
 Ant wrote:

 I wish there was a working version of Lightning for 2.15, I'm not 
 deliberately 
 holding back, but I really need calendar. Is it possible that whoever 
 produces 
 the Linux-x86_64 version could put a link to the calendar as well? Since 
 Mozilla 
 builds that version, it would be helpful to *find* it! I have all sorts of 
 places to look, at least three URLs where Lightning for processors released 
 in 
 this millenium may be found, but it sometimes works and sometimes not, and 
 even 
 with the compatibility checking as off as I can get it, two won't load and 
 one 
 won't work.
 

WFM.

See my thread: 2.15  Lightning
01/10/2013

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/18.0
SeaMonkey/2.15
Lightning 2.0b1 true {e2fda1a4-762b-4020-b5ad-a41df1933103}

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Re: SeaMonkey crash

2013-01-23 Thread NoOp
On 01/23/2013 06:36 AM, Connie wrote:
...
 To be sure, I would install version 2.14.1 and not 2.15 or higher.
 There appears to be a problem in that version, as I have seen a couple
 of postings about suddenly losing the profile.
 
 Hallo
 
 OK, I'll uninstall the current version of SeaMonkey and install 2.14.1 
 or will the latter install over my current version?

I'd rethink taking that advise were I you:
https://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/seamonkey.html

 
 Do I create each account, then copy across the mail folder to the new 
 profile?  Sorry, if that's a basic (dozy) question but I don't want to 
 mess everything up and lose all the mails since they seem to all be 
 there right now.

Janine provided you with the link to instructions:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey
/Read/ through that and then come back with questions.


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Re: Ref 12.15.1 UPDATE

2013-01-23 Thread Lee

Lee wrote:

Any one having any problems with the latest update?


OK, I finally got it to post by uninstalling it and of course installing 
it again.


OK, first it kept timing out in the newsgroups

It was also bringing up post going back to April 2010 even
after deleting them several times

Could not save my prior comment to draft file either.

I was just curious if other had any problems when they
installed the latest update. first time for me and wanted to
be sure before complaining to USENET   It almost makes me
want to quit (grin) only joking


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Re: Ref newsgroups

2013-01-23 Thread Jim G .
chicagofan sent the following on Sun, 20 Jan 2013 15:38:02 -0500:
 Lee wrote:
  anyone else having problems signing in to their newsgroups.  I am with 
  USENET and sometimes I can log in automatically and then turn around
  and have to log in manually and sometimes that does not work for the
  first 4 or 6 times.  Could it be something with SM I have checked with
  USENET and they have not indicated any problem and to my knowledge
  nothing has changed over the last 3 days.
 
  Thanks
  Lee
 
 Who provides your newsgroup service?  Many of them do maintenance on the 
 weekends, which can create access problems.
 
 I use eternal-september and I'm not having any problems, but I don't 
 have to log in.

Actually, you do. E-S requires a username and password. I'm guessing
that you provided that information to SeaMonkey at one point and have
just forgotten about it since.

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Re: SeaMonkey crash

2013-01-23 Thread Connie

NoOp wrote:


I'd rethink taking that advise were I you:
https://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/seamonkey.html


Not take which advice?  Uninstalling the version already installed? 
Installing over the top or not doing so?  Or not installing 2.14.1?



Janine provided you with the link to instructions:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey
/Read/ through that and then come back with questions.


Yes, I have read it but I don't fuly understand it.  I could 
understand what Rob said.


Connie in London
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Re: SeaMonkey crash

2013-01-23 Thread WaltS

On 01/23/2013 04:23 PM, Connie wrote:

NoOp wrote:


I'd rethink taking that advise were I you:
https://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/seamonkey.html


Not take which advice?  Uninstalling the version already installed?
Installing over the top or not doing so?  Or not installing 2.14.1?


Janine provided you with the link to instructions:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey
/Read/ through that and then come back with questions.


Yes, I have read it but I don't fuly understand it.  I could
understand what Rob said.

Connie in London
.



I think he means the advice not to install 2.15.1, due to the known 
security vulnerabilities that are fixed by an update from 2.14.


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Re: SeaMonkey crash

2013-01-23 Thread NoOp
On 01/23/2013 01:23 PM, Connie wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 
 I'd rethink taking that advise were I you:
 https://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/seamonkey.html
 
 Not take which advice?  Uninstalling the version already installed? 
 Installing over the top or not doing so?  Or not installing 2.14.1?

Installing 2.14.1 instead of the current 2.15.1.

Notice that 2.15 fixes 12 /Critical/ security issues, and 6 /High/
security issues.

Impact key:

Critical: Vulnerability can be used to run attacker code and install
software, requiring no user interaction beyond normal browsing.
High: Vulnerability can be used to gather sensitive data from sites
in other windows or inject data or code into those sites, requiring no
more than normal browsing actions.

 
 Janine provided you with the link to instructions:
 http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey
 /Read/ through that and then come back with questions.
 
 Yes, I have read it but I don't fuly understand it.  I could 
 understand what Rob said.

I've tried installing a different version of SeaMonkey but it isn't
associating with the other version's profile and I can't see any way
of doing it. ...

You were asked yesterday what version(s)... the first guess was 2.4, but
then you replied: No, that's not the problem version.  I'm using a
different machine at the moment.

Today you mention 1.1.14 Will the mails and folders transfer intact
from my original 1.1.14 via 2.0.14 to a newer version or will it all
turn turtle again?.

o Can you confirm that 1.1.4 is the version that you are having issues
with?
o Can you please confirm what different version you tried installing
over 1.1.4?



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which preference for mouse-wheel scrolling number of lines?

2013-01-23 Thread Dan B.

Which preference(s) controls the number of lines scrolled in a web page
or in a mail message when the mouse wheel is rotated?

(Which setting is the one that changed from about 1 line to about 3 lines
somewhere between SeaMonkey 1.1.14 and 2.15.1?)

(I tried changing toolkit.scrollbox.verticalScrollDistance, but I didn't
notice any change.  Other preferences I've found when Google-searching
apparently are Firefox-specific and not in SeaMonkey.)

Thanks,
Daniel



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Re: which preference for mouse-wheel scrolling number of lines?

2013-01-23 Thread NoOp
On 01/23/2013 02:33 PM, Dan B. wrote:
 Which preference(s) controls the number of lines scrolled in a web page
 or in a mail message when the mouse wheel is rotated?
 
 (Which setting is the one that changed from about 1 line to about 3 lines
 somewhere between SeaMonkey 1.1.14 and 2.15.1?)
 
 (I tried changing toolkit.scrollbox.verticalScrollDistance, but I didn't
 notice any change.  Other preferences I've found when Google-searching
 apparently are Firefox-specific and not in SeaMonkey.)

To modify the new  improved scroll wheel settings, modify:

mousewheel.default.delta_multiplier_z;
mousewheel.default.delta_multiplier_y;
mousewheel.default.delta_multiplier_x;

All other 'Search: wheel' are set to default. The default settings are
'100'. I browse to a text only page
(http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~cking/low-latency-kernel/results.txt works
for me), and then modify. I found on my laptop screen if I set to
50,40,40 then I get 1 line scroll. The technical info seems to be here:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Gecko:Mouse_Wheel_Scrolling

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Re: which preference for mouse-wheel scrolling number of lines?

2013-01-23 Thread NoOp
On 01/23/2013 03:39 PM, NoOp wrote:
...
 To modify the new  improved scroll wheel settings, modify:
 
 mousewheel.default.delta_multiplier_z;
 mousewheel.default.delta_multiplier_y;
 mousewheel.default.delta_multiplier_x;
 
 All other 'Search: wheel' are set to default. The default settings are
 '100'. I browse to a text only page
 (http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~cking/low-latency-kernel/results.txt works
 for me), and then modify. I found on my laptop screen if I set to
 50,40,40 then I get 1 line scroll

100, 85, 85 sets my scroll to 3 lines (forward and back).
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Re: SeaMonkey crash

2013-01-23 Thread Connie

Rob wrote:


The bookmarks file is no longer used.  That info is now in places.sqlite.



When your current profile is different from the one where you found the
mail, you can create the required mail account in the new profile, then
close the program and using the explorer copy the folder Mail from the
old profile to the new profile.   This is where all your mail files are.

When you then start Seamonkey again, the mail should be back.

To be sure, I would install version 2.14.1 and not 2.15 or higher.
There appears to be a problem in that version, as I have seen a couple
of postings about suddenly losing the profile.


Hallo

Good news!

I downloaded and installed 2.14.1.  Then copied the Profile folder to 
a safe place.  Next checked the profile and opened SeaMonkey again.


Success!!!

*All* the local folders were there and so were the contents.  That's 
where most of my work was stored.


The email accounts didn't reappear so I'll have to sort that out tomorrow.

Thank you very very much for your help.  It is really appreciated.

The browser has found both my home page (never used) and that I prefer 
it to open on a blank page.  It hasn't picked up the bookmarks though 
but I'll rebuild them from those I've salvaged.


Thank you again and a big hug.

A very grateful and relieved Connie in London
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Re: SeaMonkey crash

2013-01-23 Thread Connie

NoOp wrote:


Installing 2.14.1 instead of the current 2.15.1.



You were asked yesterday what version(s)... the first guess was 2.4, but
then you replied: No, that's not the problem version.  I'm using a
different machine at the moment.

Today you mention 1.1.14 Will the mails and folders transfer intact
from my original 1.1.14 via 2.0.14 to a newer version or will it all
turn turtle again?.

o Can you confirm that 1.1.4 is the version that you are having issues
with?
o Can you please confirm what different version you tried installing
over 1.1.4?


Hallo

I have two machines.  One had 1.1.14 on it which crashed.  The other 
which I'm using at the moment has 2.4.


I didn't try to install a newer version (2.0.14)  over an old one 
(1.1.14).  I took out one and installed the other.  Both of those have 
now gone.


I've re-read the page Janine sent a link to and it now makes more 
sense to me.


I've followed what Rob said and I am cautiously optimistic.  I have 
99% of the mails.  The missing ones are where I've deleted them in 
webview but I could probably retrieve some of them so long as I 
haven't emptied the trash.


Connie in London


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Re: which preference for mouse-wheel scrolling number of lines?

2013-01-23 Thread David E. Ross
On 1/23/13 2:33 PM, Dan B. wrote:
 Which preference(s) controls the number of lines scrolled in a web page
 or in a mail message when the mouse wheel is rotated?
 
 (Which setting is the one that changed from about 1 line to about 3 lines
 somewhere between SeaMonkey 1.1.14 and 2.15.1?)
 
 (I tried changing toolkit.scrollbox.verticalScrollDistance, but I didn't
 notice any change.  Other preferences I've found when Google-searching
 apparently are Firefox-specific and not in SeaMonkey.)
 
 Thanks,
 Daniel

In my profile, I added the following to the user.js file:

user_pref(toolkit.scrollbox.verticalScrollDistance, 1);
// vertical scroll only 1 line per click of keyboard or scrollbar arrow

The second line is merely a comment to remind me why I changed the the
default value, which was 3.

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Can't add second email account

2013-01-23 Thread Janine Starykowicz
I have tried Add Account from multiple screens and from the Edit  Mail 
 News etc. button. In all cases, I type my name and email address, but 
my only choice on the next screen is Newsgroup Server.


How do I add my other email accounts?

Janine
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Re: coupon printer problem solved

2013-01-23 Thread berniez
The files are located in Firefox plugin directory after installing 
coupon printer into Firefox.

NPcol400.dll
NPcouponprinter.dll
NPmozcouponprinter.dll
After copying these files to your Seamonkey plugin directory. Just run 
the install procedure again for coupon printer. It will now work.

Bernie
Charlie Siracuse wrote:

 please post exact file names.
 thanks.




bern...@nospam.com wrote:



I should advise anyone who is using coupon printer that I have found a
fix that works. In Firefox, there are 3 files that are in the plugin
section related to the coupon printer. You need all 3 files in
Seamonkey for it to work. Copy these files from the plug in directory
of Firefox to the plug in directory of Seamonkey. They are pretty
obvious which files they are. They have dll extensions. Once you are
done, run the coupon installer again and it will now print properly.
The files all have coupon in the signature under the file name. If
some one needs the exact file names, I can post them. Bernie
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Re: SM 2.15 -- virus detected

2013-01-23 Thread Ant

On 1/22/2013 7:17 PM PT, Jim typed:


Yeah, I could switch to a better AV product if one exists, but I get
Norton for free for having an overpriced account with Comcast.

I've had Norton miss some detections, and had to use Spybot SD for
removal.  I've always liked Spybot SD, and it's free.


I read that the new Spybot SD is bad compared to the old ugly version. :(
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Re: Any problems with version 12.15.1?

2013-01-23 Thread Ant

On 1/23/2013 9:41 AM PT, Lee typed:


Am asking because I am.  Am just curious as have had no problems
over the last few revisions and it was working smooth as silk.

I find it timing it self out quite often

I find old msgs keep coming up even after being shown read and
yes I have compacted the folders  they show EXPIRED going back
to may of 2011 did not have this problem as I said before updating.

A very limited posts to the newsgroups I subscribe to!  Alt
binaries rec-outdoors rv  also can't post any msgs to this group!

All small items but figured I would ask before I got to USENET
and register a complaint.


No problems for me.
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