Re: Seamonkey 2.26

2014-05-04 Thread Daniel

On 04/05/14 10:59, Rufus wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Just noticed the Windows version is available for download, but not yet
available for automatic update...

And I was happy to see that, unlike the FireFox update, the Seamonkey
update did NOT break the Forecast Fox extension.



The short-drawn drop down problem appears to have been *FIXED*!  Kudos
for that one, team!

Must have just been slow getting someone to do it for Mac, Rufus, 'cause 
on Linux and (I think) Win7, it's been fixed for a couple of versions.


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26 Build identifier: 20140415200419

or

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26 Build identifier: 20140408191805

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Re: I love SeaMonkey - please keep it the same!

2014-05-04 Thread Ant

On 5/3/2014 12:47 PM PT, EE typed:


There is no checkmark in that box for my bookmarks.


You don't see this as an example? http://i.imgur.com/SebbPtQ.gif
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Re: I love SeaMonkey - please keep it the same!

2014-05-04 Thread Ant

On 5/4/2014 2:38 AM PT, Stéphane Grégoire typed:
...

But! I use and test FF too.  And, I have no beef with FF except for:

- loss of the throbber



What do you mean by throbber?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Throbber

See SeaMonkey's web browser's animated logo on the top right corner when 
connecting and download web pages. ;)

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Re: I love SeaMonkey - please keep it the same!

2014-05-04 Thread David E. Ross
On 5/4/2014 5:01 AM, Ant wrote:
 On 5/4/2014 2:38 AM PT, Stéphane Grégoire typed:
 ...
 But! I use and test FF too.  And, I have no beef with FF except for:

 - loss of the throbber


 What do you mean by throbber?
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Throbber
 
 See SeaMonkey's web browser's animated logo on the top right corner when 
 connecting and download web pages. ;)
 

Firefox developers decided the throbber was not needed.  To the
contrary, when I select a link and the page does not load immediately, I
check the SeaMonkey throbber to determine if I really selected the link.

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Re: I love SeaMonkey - please keep it the same!

2014-05-04 Thread WaltS48

On 05/04/2014 11:35 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/4/2014 5:01 AM, Ant wrote:

On 5/4/2014 2:38 AM PT, Stéphane Grégoire typed:
...

But! I use and test FF too.  And, I have no beef with FF except for:

- loss of the throbber



What do you mean by throbber?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Throbber

See SeaMonkey's web browser's animated logo on the top right corner when
connecting and download web pages. ;)



Firefox developers decided the throbber was not needed.  To the
contrary, when I select a link and the page does not load immediately, I
check the SeaMonkey throbber to determine if I really selected the link.




Funny, I see an activity indicator for each site I load in Firefox, 
which turns to the favicon once loaded if the site completes loading.


Turns black and rotates counter-clockwise and says connecting before 
changing red and rotating clockwise when loading the site.


There is also the status indicator in the lower left hand of the browser 
window.


SeaMonkey has a clockwise rotating double black arrow when a page is 
loading in a tab.

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Re: I love SeaMonkey - please keep it the same!

2014-05-04 Thread PhillipJones

Stéphane Grégoire wrote:

Hi,

Ed Mullen a tapoté, le 03/05/2014 05:49:

I prefer SM because it's just so familiar.

But! I use and test FF too.  And, I have no beef with FF except for:

- loss of the throbber



What do you mean by throbber?




- loss of the status bar


If you want to see only the web pages :
http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#fullerscreen



 The Throbber is /was the icon usually over on left hand top corner 
that indicates some action such as trying to load a web Page or download 
Mail (in case of SeaMonkey) and also doubled as a shortcut to 
Mozilla.org website. Its been a fixture since the days of Netscape 
Communicator and I believe was there at the very beginning on Netscape 
3.0.1.Gold  which was a for pay product. I paid $60 and received a 120 
page paper back book and a CD with the software. FireFox up until a few 
years ago also had one too, it was sitting there dutifully doing as it 
was supposed. Not bothering anyone and when anyone deed to go to Mozilla 
website they didn't have to look it up just click on it. Then someone 
decided it was to old hat and not needed. Now in FireFox they 
substituted a little winder that you'll almost ever look except it do 
indicate some activity, but is no longer a shortcut to the Mozilla website


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Re: I love SeaMonkey - please keep it the same!

2014-05-04 Thread WaltS48

On 05/04/2014 12:00 PM, PhillipJones wrote:

Stéphane Grégoire wrote:

Hi,

Ed Mullen a tapoté, le 03/05/2014 05:49:

I prefer SM because it's just so familiar.

But! I use and test FF too.  And, I have no beef with FF except for:

- loss of the throbber



What do you mean by throbber?




- loss of the status bar


If you want to see only the web pages :
http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#fullerscreen




  The Throbber is /was the icon usually over on left hand top corner
that indicates some action such as trying to load a web Page or download
Mail (in case of SeaMonkey) and also doubled as a shortcut to
Mozilla.org website. Its been a fixture since the days of Netscape
Communicator and I believe was there at the very beginning on Netscape
3.0.1.Gold  which was a for pay product. I paid $60 and received a 120
page paper back book and a CD with the software. FireFox up until a few
years ago also had one too, it was sitting there dutifully doing as it
was supposed. Not bothering anyone and when anyone deed to go to Mozilla
website they didn't have to look it up just click on it. Then someone
decided it was to old hat and not needed. Now in FireFox they
substituted a little winder that you'll almost ever look except it do
indicate some activity, but is no longer a shortcut to the Mozilla website




Shortcut to Mozilla website is to bookmark it, or use Mozilla in the 
upper right hand corner of about:home in Firefox.


HTH
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Re: I love SeaMonkey - please keep it the same!

2014-05-04 Thread WaltS48
On Sun, 04 May 2014 08:35:27 -0700
David E. Ross nobody@nowhere.invalid wrote:

 On 5/4/2014 5:01 AM, Ant wrote:
  On 5/4/2014 2:38 AM PT, Stéphane Grégoire typed:
  ...
  But! I use and test FF too.  And, I have no beef with FF except for:
 
  - loss of the throbber
 
 
  What do you mean by throbber?
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Throbber
  
  See SeaMonkey's web browser's animated logo on the top right corner
  when connecting and download web pages. ;)
  
 
 Firefox developers decided the throbber was not needed.  To the
 contrary, when I select a link and the page does not load immediately, I
 check the SeaMonkey throbber to determine if I really selected the link.
 


If Firefox users really need more eye candy.

[Throbber Restored :: Add-ons for
Firefox](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/throbber-restored/)

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Re: I love SeaMonkey - please keep it the same!

2014-05-04 Thread PhillipJones

WaltS48 wrote:

On Sun, 04 May 2014 08:35:27 -0700
David E. Ross nobody@nowhere.invalid wrote:


On 5/4/2014 5:01 AM, Ant wrote:

On 5/4/2014 2:38 AM PT, Stéphane Grégoire typed:
...

But! I use and test FF too.  And, I have no beef with FF except for:

- loss of the throbber



What do you mean by throbber?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Throbber

See SeaMonkey's web browser's animated logo on the top right corner
when connecting and download web pages. ;)



Firefox developers decided the throbber was not needed.  To the
contrary, when I select a link and the page does not load immediately, I
check the SeaMonkey throbber to determine if I really selected the link.




If Firefox users really need more eye candy.

[Throbber Restored :: Add-ons for
Firefox](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/throbber-restored/)


Only Applies  Australis version of FireFox

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Downloaded ver. 2.26 problem

2014-05-04 Thread Ray McGrath

Folks:

Ver. 2.26 of Sea Monkey released this a.m. will not function (Allow 
access to Internet) without a computer restart.  Such an instruction was 
not provided with the update download.


After the restart the machine seems to be functioning well.

Best to all,

Ray McGrath
Jackson, MS
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Re: Seamonkey 2.26

2014-05-04 Thread Rufus

Daniel wrote:

On 04/05/14 10:59, Rufus wrote:

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Just noticed the Windows version is available for download, but not yet
available for automatic update...

And I was happy to see that, unlike the FireFox update, the Seamonkey
update did NOT break the Forecast Fox extension.



The short-drawn drop down problem appears to have been *FIXED*!  Kudos
for that one, team!


Must have just been slow getting someone to do it for Mac, Rufus, 'cause
on Linux and (I think) Win7, it's been fixed for a couple of versions.



Took quite a while for the Mac version - but at least it's finally been 
done.  Now maybe I can stand to update my main machines from 2.13.2.


From what I've seen so far the problems with ignoring my Master 
Password Pref setting (getting random requests) and not following the 
Alias path for on-disk .html files (like my Epson Help manual) are still 
broken.  But at least now the random requests aren't compounded by the 
short dialog drop.


No telling as to if the Profile Manager induced problems have been 
addressed or not at this point.


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Re: Downloaded ver. 2.26 problem

2014-05-04 Thread Wolfgang Steger
Ray McGrath schrieb:
 Folks:
 
 Ver. 2.26 of Sea Monkey released this a.m. will not function (Allow 
 access to Internet) without a computer restart.  Such an instruction was 
 not provided with the update download.
 
 After the restart the machine seems to be functioning well.
 

Microsoft Windows?

This usually means that Seamonkey was not completly closed at the time
of the update (did you use the semi-automatic update mechanism or did
you download the complete package?).

I only saw this when I did an update while the browser was still running
(minimized).

Just my 2cc

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SM email not sending with large attachments

2014-05-04 Thread flyguy
The last two weeks or so, I've been unable to reliably send emails with 
attachments over 1 MB or so. Under 1 MB, and it sends normally; from 1 
to 2 MB, it might take several tries to send it; over 2 MB, and it won't 
send at all. When it doesn't send, I get the error message:


Sending of message failed. The message could not be sent because the 
connection to the SMTP server smtpout.secureserver.net timed out. Try 
again or contact your network administrator.


I have several GoDaddy POP mail accounts, all have the same issue. My 
IMAP gmail account can send with no problems, my iPad (using the same 
router, but with wifi) has the same Godaddy accounts on it, and they can 
all send the attachments - no problems. I can send big attachments using 
GoDaddy's webmail.


I contacted Support at Godaddy, but after trying a number things, the 
representative concluded it was likely a Mozilla issue. If it is, that 
doesn't explain why it worked before.


I'm using Seamonkey 2.23 and 2.26 on Windows XP computers. My email 
provider is Godaddy.com; my ISP is Frontier.com.


Does anyone know what might be causing my problem?
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I love SeaMonkey - please keep it the same!

2014-05-04 Thread marieariel109

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Re: SM email not sending with large attachments

2014-05-04 Thread Cerise

On 5/4/2014 3:37 PM, flyguy wrote:

The last two weeks or so, I've been unable to reliably send emails with
attachments over 1 MB or so. Under 1 MB, and it sends normally; from 1
to 2 MB, it might take several tries to send it; over 2 MB, and it won't
send at all. When it doesn't send, I get the error message:

Sending of message failed. The message could not be sent because the
connection to the SMTP server smtpout.secureserver.net timed out. Try
again or contact your network administrator.


See what happens if you try to send a large attachment with a different 
local mail client (looks like you're on XP? so Outlook Express might 
work for this test). That way you'll be trying to send a large 
attachment thru the same SMTP server from the same source, and can see 
if the problem really has anything to do with SeaMonkey.


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Re: SM email not sending with large attachments

2014-05-04 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

flyguy wrote:


The last two weeks or so, I've been unable to reliably send emails with
attachments over 1 MB or so. Under 1 MB, and it sends normally; from 1
to 2 MB, it might take several tries to send it; over 2 MB, and it won't
send at all. When it doesn't send, I get the error message:

Sending of message failed. The message could not be sent because the
connection to the SMTP server smtpout.secureserver.net timed out. Try
again or contact your network administrator.

I have several GoDaddy POP mail accounts, all have the same issue. My
IMAP gmail account can send with no problems, my iPad (using the same
router, but with wifi) has the same Godaddy accounts on it, and they can
all send the attachments - no problems. I can send big attachments using
GoDaddy's webmail.

I contacted Support at Godaddy, but after trying a number things, the
representative concluded it was likely a Mozilla issue. If it is, that
doesn't explain why it worked before.

I'm using Seamonkey 2.23 and 2.26 on Windows XP computers. My email
provider is Godaddy.com; my ISP is Frontier.com.

Does anyone know what might be causing my problem?


I think you can rule out SeaMonkey as the problem; I've routinely sent 
attachments as large as 25 MB with no problem. These limits are usually 
imposed by the ISP, not the email program.


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Re: SM email not sending with large attachments

2014-05-04 Thread flyguy

Cerise wrote, On 5/4/2014 5:54 PM:

On 5/4/2014 3:37 PM, flyguy wrote:

The last two weeks or so, I've been unable to reliably send emails with
attachments over 1 MB or so. Under 1 MB, and it sends normally; from 1
to 2 MB, it might take several tries to send it; over 2 MB, and it won't
send at all. When it doesn't send, I get the error message:

Sending of message failed. The message could not be sent because the
connection to the SMTP server smtpout.secureserver.net timed out. Try
again or contact your network administrator.


See what happens if you try to send a large attachment with a different
local mail client (looks like you're on XP? so Outlook Express might
work for this test). That way you'll be trying to send a large
attachment thru the same SMTP server from the same source, and can see
if the problem really has anything to do with SeaMonkey.


Would these be satisfactory tests?

*  My IMAP gmail account can send with no problems (done on the Win XP 
computer)


*  My iPad (using the same router, but with wifi) has the same Godaddy 
accounts on it, and they can all send the attachments - no problems.


* I can send big attachments using GoDaddy's webmail.

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Re: SM email not sending with large attachments

2014-05-04 Thread Cerise

On 5/5/2014 12:18 AM, flyguy wrote:


Would these be satisfactory tests?

*  My IMAP gmail account can send with no problems (done on the Win XP
computer)

*  My iPad (using the same router, but with wifi) has the same Godaddy
accounts on it, and they can all send the attachments - no problems.

* I can send big attachments using GoDaddy's webmail.



With each of those, you are sending either from a different machine, or 
using different servers. You want to reduce the variables ... and using 
a different mail client to connect to the same SMTP server from the same 
PC would do that.

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