Re: Address Book Contacts Disappeared

[Mason83]

On 16/12/2016 22:31, Brian Mailman wrote:

> Seamonkey 2.40
> Windows 10
> 
> Help, please.  I just used the address book to send out an invitation 
> (if anyone doesn't recognize the word, it's where "invite" as a noun 
> came from) with a stack of bccs.
> 
> Today I opened it and every contact that I've collected over the past 20 
> years or so is gone.  Just gone.  All i see is a like-virginal blank slate.
> 
> Can anyone tell me how I can, if possible, recover my contacts?

In your profile directory, which you can reach via about:support
do you see a file called abook.mab or anything similar?

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Re: huge lag in typing on Linked In Messages

[Ray_Net]

Hawker wrote on 16-12-16 20:43:

On 12/14/2016 3:43 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

m...@hpathy.com wrote on 14-12-16 20:29:

On Thursday, October 13, 2016 at 11:15:36 AM UTC-4, Hawker wrote:

Hello,
When composing a message in Linkedin there is a huge lag between my
typing and the characters showing up. It makes it very painful to
compose messages. Any idea what causes this and what I can do about 
it?

It is  the only place I have seen this.

I've got the same problem and no one seems to know what to do about
it. It's hugely frustrating.


"...composing a message in Linkedin there is a huge lag between my
typing and the characters showing up. What I can do about it?"

If the problem is only at Linkedin... have you contacted Linkedin ?
Try to send them a mail:Tech Email hostmas...@linkedin.com



I don't see it as a linked in issue. It works fine in Firefox but not 
SeaMonkey. I doubt LI supports SM anyway.
My work around for now is I compose in another editor and copy/past 
into SM. A PITA but thankfully I don't do many linked in messages.
If it's SM the problem, feel free to file a bug report here: 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/

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Re: New 2.46 Windows release candidates

[Ant]

Just watch https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1294433 for its 
status updates. ;)


On 12/16/2016 9:11 AM, TCW wrote:

I pity the person who has to write notes encompassing changes from
2.41 to 2.46.

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Address Book Contacts Disappeared

[Brian Mailman]

Seamonkey 2.40
Windows 10

Help, please.  I just used the address book to send out an invitation 
(if anyone doesn't recognize the word, it's where "invite" as a noun 
came from) with a stack of bccs.


Today I opened it and every contact that I've collected over the past 20 
years or so is gone.  Just gone.  All i see is a like-virginal blank slate.


Can anyone tell me how I can, if possible, recover my contacts?

B/
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Re: huge lag in typing on Linked In Messages

[Hawker]

On 12/14/2016 3:43 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

m...@hpathy.com wrote on 14-12-16 20:29:

On Thursday, October 13, 2016 at 11:15:36 AM UTC-4, Hawker wrote:

Hello,
When composing a message in Linkedin there is a huge lag between my
typing and the characters showing up. It makes it very painful to
compose messages. Any idea what causes this and what I can do about it?
It is  the only place I have seen this.

I've got the same problem and no one seems to know what to do about
it. It's hugely frustrating.


"...composing a message in Linkedin there is a huge lag between my
typing and the characters showing up. What I can do about it?"

If the problem is only at Linkedin... have you contacted Linkedin ?
Try to send them a mail:Tech Email hostmas...@linkedin.com



I don't see it as a linked in issue. It works fine in Firefox but not 
SeaMonkey. I doubt LI supports SM anyway.
My work around for now is I compose in another editor and copy/past into 
SM. A PITA but thankfully I don't do many linked in messages.

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Re: are there still official seamonkey betas ?

[Mason83]

On 16/12/2016 10:02, Piscium wrote:

> Question: "about:buildconfig" tells me that gcc v. 4.8.5 was used to
> build SM. gcc 4.8.5 is (arguably) old as gcc 4.8.0, the first version
> in that series, was released in March 22, 2013, 3.5 years ago.
> 
> Considering that FF is developed at breakneck speed could that not
> that cause problems, in particular because as far as I know a lot of
> FF/SM code is in c++?

Perhaps they use gcc 4.8.5 on Linux, but that wouldn't explain
similar issue on Windows, where they use VS.

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Re: are there still official seamonkey betas ?

[EE]

bdelmee wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote on 2016-12-15 08:36:

bdelmee wrote:

Hello, I keep seeing people mentioning unoffical dev builds
and encouraging us to try those and report any issue before
2.46 comes out.

I am still using 2.38 as 2.40 had an annoying regression for me,
which i'd like to check on the next beta and report if still present.

But - will there be a beta ? 2.38 is 15 months old by now.
Still works wonder for all i can see but security-wise,
this is getting a little old.


Hi,

There will be betas..  just need the following to happen:

1) 2.46 is released
2) figure out if the next release is a beta (2.48) or
release (2.47).
3) do a post-mortem discussion as to what the smeg went wrong
with 2.46 and why hell broke loose and if it's the
guy who did the release... he should be sacked!

oh wait.. that's me.  *sheepish look* ermm..  umm.. Move
along.. nothing to see here. :P

Seriously, we'll need to do #3 and perhaps we'll need to
repeat the same patches to 2.47 or 2.48.   I dunno as
right now, I'm still fighting 2.46...

Thanks for your patience.

Edmund


Hi Edmund,

thank you for replying, and of course for your continued work.
No need to apologise, we know the high standards the SM devs have
kept through the years. It'll be ready when it is ready, fine.

But ... I am confused: are you saying there won't be a beta for 2.46,
perhaps there will for 2.47 and surely for 2.48 ? For which "releases"
is there a public beta, for which isn't there, and then what are the
implications: is a release without beta any less reliable or "official"
than one with one ? Can one file bugs against unofficial release
candidates ?

I am not complaining so much about slowness as enquiring about current
release and testing lifecycle.

Thanks again,

Bernard.

I think comm-releases in the Tinderbox builds are a bit beyond beta, and 
they are working.


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Re: are there still official seamonkey betas ?

[EE]

bdelmee wrote:

Hello, I keep seeing people mentioning unoffical dev builds
and encouraging us to try those and report any issue before
2.46 comes out.

I am still using 2.38 as 2.40 had an annoying regression for me,
which i'd like to check on the next beta and report if still present.

But - will there be a beta ? 2.38 is 15 months old by now.
Still works wonder for all i can see but security-wise,
this is getting a little old.


Tinderbox comm-release builds are a bit past beta.  They should have 
fewer bugs.  Before Adrian Kalla produced a Mac build of SM 2.47, I was 
using Tinderbox builds and was happy with them.  I am also happy with 
Kalla's build.


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Re: New 2.46 Windows release candidates

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Will likely be the final build. Just needs to be copied to the release 
directory and the release notes be written.


FRG

TCW wrote:

On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 18:14:55 +0800, Edmund Wong 
wrote:


Hi,

Fwiw.. please *do* note that those 2.46 candidate builds are just
test builds.  While it does have the sec fix, it isn't the official
candidate until I start spinning build 7.

Edmund


And from what I just saw on FTP, looks like the 2.46 build 9 built a
win32 build. That's something. =)



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Re: are there still official seamonkey betas ?

[bdelmee]

Yupidup, that worked. Thanks!

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 2016-12-16 11:26:

Open Sidebar. Set search engine and do a search from there. Default will
be set to this one then. Or do it from the search in the toolbar.

The default engine always reflects the current engine now.

FRG

Daniel wrote:

On 16/12/2016 8:57 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

een duck-ducked!





Did I read, in another thread, the workaround is to delete all the
search engines that you don't want as Default, then set the last
remaining search engine (your favourite) as default, then you can
re-add the others (if you want).

I think.





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Re: are there still official seamonkey betas ?

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Open Sidebar. Set search engine and do a search from there. Default will 
be set to this one then. Or do it from the search in the toolbar.


The default engine always reflects the current engine now.

FRG

Daniel wrote:

On 16/12/2016 8:57 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

een duck-ducked!




Did I read, in another thread, the workaround is to delete all the 
search engines that you don't want as Default, then set the last 
remaining search engine (your favourite) as default, then you can re-add 
the others (if you want).


I think.



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Re: are there still official seamonkey betas ?

[Daniel]

On 16/12/2016 8:57 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Setting the default search engine no longer works. Has been removed from
Gecko/Firefox.

Tracked in Bug 1265881:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1265881

Check it for a workaround.

FRG

bdelmee wrote:

bdelmee wrote on 2016-12-16 09:31:




B.

odd - even though my profile has google set as default search engine,
searching from the address bar goes to duckduckgo.
changing the search engine in preferences appears to be ignored.
OMG, this build has been duck-ducked!



Did I read, in another thread, the workaround is to delete all the 
search engines that you don't want as Default, then set the last 
remaining search engine (your favourite) as default, then you can re-add 
the others (if you want).


I think.

--
Daniel

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.40 Build identifier: 20160120202951

or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501

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Re: are there still official seamonkey betas ?

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Setting the default search engine no longer works. Has been removed from 
Gecko/Firefox.


Tracked in Bug 1265881:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1265881

Check it for a workaround.

FRG

bdelmee wrote:

bdelmee wrote on 2016-12-16 09:31:




B.

odd - even though my profile has google set as default search engine,
searching from the address bar goes to duckduckgo.
changing the search engine in preferences appears to be ignored.
OMG, this build has been duck-ducked!



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Re: are there still official seamonkey betas ?

[bdelmee]

bdelmee wrote on 2016-12-16 09:31:

Edmund Wong wrote on 2016-12-16 04:40:

Daniel wrote:

On 15/12/2016 6:40 PM, bdelmee wrote:

Richmond wrote on 2016-12-14 22:51:

bdelmee  writes:


Hello, I keep seeing people mentioning unofficial dev builds
and encouraging us to try those and report any issue before
2.46 comes out.

I am still using 2.38 as 2.40 had an annoying regression for me,
which i'd like to check on the next beta and report if still present.

But - will there be a beta ? 2.38 is 15 months old by now.
Still works wonder for all i can see but security-wise,
this is getting a little old.


There are builds here: (I don't think they are 'unofficial', but they
are for testing.) Scroll down to 2.49a2. I have been using it without
trouble.

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-aurora/


thank you Richmond, but i only see alpha versions in that folder.

my question remains: does seamonkey still follow a release cycle
including public betas ?


Yes, SeaMonkey does (normally) follow a release cycle that includes
public Beta testing, but the small team that produces SeaMonkey has been
having various problems (some derived from FireFox) and, of course, they
have their usual workloads and family to handle as well.

The version Richmond gave you a link to *is* an Alpha version (hence the
"a2" at the end of the Version number.

I think I downloaded an "official" Win7 WOW 32bit SM 2.46 recently, but
cannot locate it at the moment, so maybe I was just dreaming!



It should be (officially just as a candidate, but unofficially as a
release)
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/candidates/2.46-candidates/build9/unsigned/


basically.. candidate = unofficial
soon-to-be-released-but-pending-processing release :P

Edmund


Thanks for that link; this build seems to run alright so far on Win10.
I will keep using it in the coming days.

B.

odd - even though my profile has google set as default search engine,
searching from the address bar goes to duckduckgo.
changing the search engine in preferences appears to be ignored.
OMG, this build has been duck-ducked!

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Re: are there still official seamonkey betas ?

[Piscium]

On 16 December 2016 at 03:40, Edmund Wong  wrote:
> It should be (officially just as a candidate, but unofficially as a
> release)
> https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/candidates/2.46-candidates/build9/unsigned/
>
> basically.. candidate = unofficial
> soon-to-be-released-but-pending-processing release :P

I have been using build 6 on Windows and build 6 and then 9 on Linux
and they seem fine to me. Thanks a lot!

Question: "about:buildconfig" tells me that gcc v. 4.8.5 was used to
build SM. gcc 4.8.5 is (arguably) old as gcc 4.8.0, the first version
in that series, was released in March 22, 2013, 3.5 years ago.

Considering that FF is developed at breakneck speed could that not
that cause problems, in particular because as far as I know a lot of
FF/SM code is in c++?
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Re: are there still official seamonkey betas ?

[bdelmee]

Edmund Wong wrote on 2016-12-16 04:40:

Daniel wrote:

On 15/12/2016 6:40 PM, bdelmee wrote:

Richmond wrote on 2016-12-14 22:51:

bdelmee  writes:


Hello, I keep seeing people mentioning unofficial dev builds
and encouraging us to try those and report any issue before
2.46 comes out.

I am still using 2.38 as 2.40 had an annoying regression for me,
which i'd like to check on the next beta and report if still present.

But - will there be a beta ? 2.38 is 15 months old by now.
Still works wonder for all i can see but security-wise,
this is getting a little old.


There are builds here: (I don't think they are 'unofficial', but they
are for testing.) Scroll down to 2.49a2. I have been using it without
trouble.

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-aurora/


thank you Richmond, but i only see alpha versions in that folder.

my question remains: does seamonkey still follow a release cycle
including public betas ?


Yes, SeaMonkey does (normally) follow a release cycle that includes
public Beta testing, but the small team that produces SeaMonkey has been
having various problems (some derived from FireFox) and, of course, they
have their usual workloads and family to handle as well.

The version Richmond gave you a link to *is* an Alpha version (hence the
"a2" at the end of the Version number.

I think I downloaded an "official" Win7 WOW 32bit SM 2.46 recently, but
cannot locate it at the moment, so maybe I was just dreaming!



It should be (officially just as a candidate, but unofficially as a
release)
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/candidates/2.46-candidates/build9/unsigned/

basically.. candidate = unofficial
soon-to-be-released-but-pending-processing release :P

Edmund


Thanks for that link; this build seems to run alright so far on Win10.
I will keep using it in the coming days.

B.
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Re: are there still official seamonkey betas ?

[bdelmee]

Edmund Wong wrote on 2016-12-15 08:36:

bdelmee wrote:

Hello, I keep seeing people mentioning unoffical dev builds
and encouraging us to try those and report any issue before
2.46 comes out.

I am still using 2.38 as 2.40 had an annoying regression for me,
which i'd like to check on the next beta and report if still present.

But - will there be a beta ? 2.38 is 15 months old by now.
Still works wonder for all i can see but security-wise,
this is getting a little old.


Hi,

There will be betas..  just need the following to happen:

1) 2.46 is released
2) figure out if the next release is a beta (2.48) or
release (2.47).
3) do a post-mortem discussion as to what the smeg went wrong
with 2.46 and why hell broke loose and if it's the
guy who did the release... he should be sacked!

oh wait.. that's me.  *sheepish look* ermm..  umm.. Move
along.. nothing to see here. :P

Seriously, we'll need to do #3 and perhaps we'll need to
repeat the same patches to 2.47 or 2.48.   I dunno as
right now, I'm still fighting 2.46...

Thanks for your patience.

Edmund


Hi Edmund,

thank you for replying, and of course for your continued work.
No need to apologise, we know the high standards the SM devs have
kept through the years. It'll be ready when it is ready, fine.

But ... I am confused: are you saying there won't be a beta for 2.46,
perhaps there will for 2.47 and surely for 2.48 ? For which "releases"
is there a public beta, for which isn't there, and then what are the
implications: is a release without beta any less reliable or "official"
than one with one ? Can one file bugs against unofficial release
candidates ?

I am not complaining so much about slowness as enquiring about current
release and testing lifecycle.

Thanks again,

Bernard.

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