Re: ebay and SeaMonkey Browser Support

[David E. Ross]

On 6/12/2018 9:57 PM, Henrik37 wrote:
> NFN Smith wrote:
> 
> Snip
> 
>> Big Jim wrote:
>>
>> If you have things set so that Firefox Compatibility is enabled, 
>> Seamonkey 2.49.x identifies itself as Firefox 52.0  For most sites that 
>> are complaining about outdated browsers, it's likely that most of them 
>> are keying that off seeing Firefox 52 (and devs/admins that don't 
>> know/care about the Firefox ESR branch).  It also seems that given the 
>> scope of improvements that came with Firefox 57, a growing number of 
>> sites are now designating Firefox 57.0 as the minimum browser version.
>>
> Snip
> 
>> Smith
> 
> For someone who has never heard about a 'Firefox Compatibility' feature 
> before, can you direct me on how to enable it?
> 
> 

1.  On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit > Preferences].

2.  On the left side of the Preferences window, select [Advanced > HTTP
Networking].

3.  On the HTTP Networking pane, put a checkmark in the checkbox for
"Advertise Firefox compatibility".

4.  On the HTTP Networking pane, select the OK button.

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Testing Marking Cross-posts as read in SeaMonkey

[Daniel]

I do a fair bit of reading of posts on UseNet which are often 
cross-posted, but the cross-posts are not getting marked as read.


I know this did function, long ago, in Netscape Navigator, got broken 
(was that in Mozilla Suite??) and still doesn't work in SeaMonkey and, I 
guess, in Thunderbird.


So I'm cross-posting this to three groups on the news.mozilla.org server 
so I can have a bit of a look ... and play!!


The way I figure, there must be information in the message headers which 
is common to all the cross-posts but different to any other posts in any 
of the mentioned groups.


If you're not interested, please killfile this thread in the three news 
groups.

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623

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Re: ebay and SeaMonkey Browser Support

[Henrik37 via support-seamonkey]

NFN Smith wrote:

Snip


Big Jim wrote:

If you have things set so that Firefox Compatibility is enabled, 
Seamonkey 2.49.x identifies itself as Firefox 52.0  For most sites that 
are complaining about outdated browsers, it's likely that most of them 
are keying that off seeing Firefox 52 (and devs/admins that don't 
know/care about the Firefox ESR branch).  It also seems that given the 
scope of improvements that came with Firefox 57, a growing number of 
sites are now designating Firefox 57.0 as the minimum browser version.



Snip


Smith


For someone who has never heard about a 'Firefox Compatibility' feature 
before, can you direct me on how to enable it?



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Re: ebay and SeaMonkey Browser Support

[Daniel]

TCW wrote on 12/06/18 23:17:

On 6/11/2018 8:07 PM, Big Jim wrote:
As of June 19th, ebay states that they will no longer support the 
SeaMonkey browser because it is outdated and unsafe.  A paste of the 
message I received is below...


eBay

Oh No!

We noticed that you’re on an outdated web browser that may compromise 
your security as you shop online.


As of June 19, 2018 you will no longer be able to check out on eBay 
with your current browser.

Update to the latest version now so you can continue
to check out safely and securely.

Why must we continually put up with this!


Meh, not likely to do anything. Just make sure that at least Edit > 
Preferences > Advanced > HTTP Networking > Advertise Firefox 
Compatibility is enabled. Or just do: http://ficara.altervista.org/?p=2528


I'm using FRG's build of SM 2.53 and eBay hasn't complained to me about 
anything.


But be aware that even with the "Advertise Firefox" setting set, some 
sites still act up. Seems some now only work if Firefox is the only 
Browser mentioned so kick up a stink if SeaMonkey and Firefox are 
mentioned  or if Firefox and SeaMonkey are mentioned.


Some, hereabouts, have suggested creating a UserAgent pref that would 
apply to the specific, troublesome, site.

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623

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Re: Saving Bookmark to New Bookmarks

[Daniel]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 13/06/18 13:23:

argoma...@gmail.com wrote:


El martes, 8 de septiembre de 2015, 16:10:16 (UTC+2), Tom Pamin escribió:


When saving a web page as a bookmark, is there any way to have the
bookmark window default to the "New Bookmarks" folder, instead of 
random folders?


ALL Mozilla products have this cripple feature not providing to the 
users a way (straight or through  about:config) to unlock the 
annoiance of un-manage the default bookmarks folder and the

behaviour of saving.

And mine is a reply to a post 3 years old !



The easy answer is "File Bookmark" (Ctrl-D), which pops up a folder list 
from which you can select. If you click the down-triangle to pull down 
the list, the most recent folders used are prioritized at the top of the 
list.


So it's not completely dysfunctional, you just have to know how to use it.

Yeap!! Or the smaller down arrow to the right of the Bookmarks bar, but 
still on the "File Bookmark" screen, lets you select any of the folders 
in your complete Bookmarks folder.


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
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Re: Saving Bookmark to New Bookmarks

[Paul B. Gallagher]

argoma...@gmail.com wrote:

El martes, 8 de septiembre de 2015, 16:10:16 (UTC+2), Tom Pamin 
escribió:



When saving a web page as a bookmark, is there any way to have the
bookmark window default to the "New Bookmarks" folder, instead of 
random folders?


ALL Mozilla products have this cripple feature not providing to the 
users a way (straight or through  about:config) to unlock the 
annoiance of un-manage the default bookmarks folder and the

behaviour of saving.

And mine is a reply to a post 3 years old !



The easy answer is "File Bookmark" (Ctrl-D), which pops up a folder list 
from which you can select. If you click the down-triangle to pull down 
the list, the most recent folders used are prioritized at the top of the 
list.


So it's not completely dysfunctional, you just have to know how to use it.

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Re: ABC iview in SeaMonkey

[David E. Ross]

On 6/12/2018 7:32 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
> On 06/12/2018 05:28 AM, Jonathan Wilson wrote:
>> The ABC seem to have updated their iview catch up TV site and now it 
>> doesn't work in SeaMonkey anymore. Pressing "play" on any video just 
>> gets a "no playable sources found" error.
>>
>> Do I need a plugin or something? And if so, where do I get it? (a check 
>> of the network activity using the developer tools shows some JSON that 
>> mentions some suspiciously MPEG-looking things but I have no clue how 
>> that stuff works on SeaMonkey on Windows)
>>
>> I am using SeaMonkey 2.49.3 (latest public version) on Windows 7.
> 
> 
> You don't need the Flash plugin.
> 
> You probably do need the Widevine Content Decryption Module provided by 
> Google, Inc, and the OpenH264 Video Codec provided by Cisco Systems, 
> bundled in Firefox by Mozilla, but isn't found in SeaMonkey.
> 
> I don't think you can find them anywhere to install them.
> 
> "As announced in March 2018, the ABC iview development team have been 
> working hard to bring HTML5 (DRM) streaming onto the iview website which 
> removes the need for the Adobe Flash Player plugin."
> 
> 
> 
> DRM Ref: 
> 

Since Cisco has open-sourced its implementation of OpenH264, will it be
part of the next version of SeaMonkey?

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And then you say you will, but then won't.
You're undecided now, so what're you goin' to do?
From a 1950s song
That should be Donald Trump's theme song.  He obviously
does not understand "commitment", whether it is about
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Re: Saving Bookmark to New Bookmarks

[argomagma]

El martes, 8 de septiembre de 2015, 16:10:16 (UTC+2), Tom Pamin escribió:
> When saving a web page as a bookmark, is there any way to have the 
> bookmark window default to the "New Bookmarks" folder, instead of random 
> folders?

ALL Mozilla products have this cripple feature not providing to the users a way 
( straight or through  about:config) to unlock the annoiance of un-manage the 
default bookmarks folder and the behaviour of saving.

And mine is a reply to a post 3 years old !
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Re: ebay and SeaMonkey Browser Support

[NFN Smith]

Big Jim wrote:
As of June 19th, ebay states that they will no longer support the 
SeaMonkey browser because it is outdated and unsafe.  A paste of the 
message I received is below...


eBay

Oh No!

We noticed that you’re on an outdated web browser that may compromise 
your security as you shop online.


As of June 19, 2018 you will no longer be able to check out on eBay with 
your current browser.

Update to the latest version now so you can continue
to check out safely and securely.

Why must we continually put up with this!


If you have things set so that Firefox Compatibility is enabled, 
Seamonkey 2.49.x identifies itself as Firefox 52.0  For most sites that 
are complaining about outdated browsers, it's likely that most of them 
are keying that off seeing Firefox 52 (and devs/admins that don't 
know/care about the Firefox ESR branch).  It also seems that given the 
scope of improvements that came with Firefox 57, a growing number of 
sites are now designating Firefox 57.0 as the minimum browser version.


I'm guessing that if you use a copy of Firefox 52.9 ESR, you'll get the 
same complaint. I'm assuming that the problem happens only with eBay 
checkout, and since I don't have an eBay account, I can't verify.


If you have a fully updated browser based on the ESR version, you're 
still secure (although perhaps there may be extensions that are no 
longer being maintained that need security updates), but I don't think 
there's been any significant updates the Gecko rendering engine recently 
that would cause an older version not to work properly.


Thus, the typical work-around for this kind of problem is User Agent 
spoofing, which allows you to show your browser as a fully current 
version of Firefox.


There's a couple of extensions that allow for that (PrefBar, User Agent 
Switcher), or you can also do tweaking through about:config. I don't 
have the details memorized, but I know there's helps for that at 
mozillazine.org.


Smith
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Re: ABC iview in SeaMonkey

[WaltS48]

On 06/12/2018 05:28 AM, Jonathan Wilson wrote:
The ABC seem to have updated their iview catch up TV site and now it 
doesn't work in SeaMonkey anymore. Pressing "play" on any video just 
gets a "no playable sources found" error.


Do I need a plugin or something? And if so, where do I get it? (a check 
of the network activity using the developer tools shows some JSON that 
mentions some suspiciously MPEG-looking things but I have no clue how 
that stuff works on SeaMonkey on Windows)


I am using SeaMonkey 2.49.3 (latest public version) on Windows 7.



You don't need the Flash plugin.

You probably do need the Widevine Content Decryption Module provided by 
Google, Inc, and the OpenH264 Video Codec provided by Cisco Systems, 
bundled in Firefox by Mozilla, but isn't found in SeaMonkey.


I don't think you can find them anywhere to install them.

"As announced in March 2018, the ABC iview development team have been 
working hard to bring HTML5 (DRM) streaming onto the iview website which 
removes the need for the Adobe Flash Player plugin."




DRM Ref: 
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Re: ebay and SeaMonkey Browser Support

[TCW]

On 6/11/2018 8:07 PM, Big Jim wrote:
As of June 19th, ebay states that they will no longer support the 
SeaMonkey browser because it is outdated and unsafe.  A paste of the 
message I received is below...


eBay

Oh No!

We noticed that you’re on an outdated web browser that may compromise 
your security as you shop online.


As of June 19, 2018 you will no longer be able to check out on eBay with 
your current browser.

Update to the latest version now so you can continue
to check out safely and securely.

Why must we continually put up with this!


Meh, not likely to do anything. Just make sure that at least Edit > 
Preferences > Advanced > HTTP Networking > Advertise Firefox 
Compatibility is enabled. Or just do: http://ficara.altervista.org/?p=2528


I'm using FRG's build of SM 2.53 and eBay hasn't complained to me about 
anything.

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Re: ebay and SeaMonkey Browser Support

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Big Jim wrote:

As of June 19th, ebay states that they will no longer support the 
SeaMonkey browser because it is outdated and unsafe.  A paste of the 
message I received is below...


eBay

Oh No!

We noticed that you’re on an outdated web browser that may compromise 
your security as you shop online.


As of June 19, 2018 you will no longer be able to check out on eBay with 
your current browser.

Update to the latest version now so you can continue
to check out safely and securely.

Why must we continually put up with this!


See also:



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Re: ebay and SeaMonkey Browser Support

[Jim Dell]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
I am not seeing anything logging in with with 2.49.4 and 2.53. Does this 
show only during checkout?


FRG

Big Jim wrote:
As of June 19th, ebay states that they will no longer support the 
SeaMonkey browser because it is outdated and unsafe.  A paste of the 
message I received is below...


eBay

Oh No!

We noticed that you’re on an outdated web browser that may compromise 
your security as you shop online.


As of June 19, 2018 you will no longer be able to check out on eBay 
with your current browser.

Update to the latest version now so you can continue
to check out safely and securely.

Why must we continually put up with this!

It's not the 19th yet.
Try that on the 20th to see what happens.

Jim
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ABC iview in SeaMonkey

[Jonathan Wilson]

The ABC seem to have updated their iview catch up TV site and now it 
doesn't work in SeaMonkey anymore. Pressing "play" on any video just gets a 
"no playable sources found" error.


Do I need a plugin or something? And if so, where do I get it? (a check of 
the network activity using the developer tools shows some JSON that 
mentions some suspiciously MPEG-looking things but I have no clue how that 
stuff works on SeaMonkey on Windows)


I am using SeaMonkey 2.49.3 (latest public version) on Windows 7.
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Re: why won't SM 2.49.3 remember where local folders are?

[Daniel]

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 12/06/18 03:58:

sean wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/10/18 3:07 PM, sean wrote:
Well... this has been long running. I can't recollect when it 
started but Seamonkey doesn't like it when I direct it to find Local 
Folders on a separate sata drive from the main C: drive I have 
many GB of mail history and really don't want it on my smallish C: 
drive in my latest re-installation of my desktop...


any ideas? am I correct this used to work?

sean


Don't know what you mean.

Need exact steps to reproduce.



my machine has a C: drive for programs, and an F: and G: drive for 
backup storage. In the past I have always directed the local folders 
to one or the other of the storage drives where all archives are kept.


for while now, whenever I reboot the machine, the local folders has 
lost contact with the path to the storage drive that is selected in 
Account Settings: /media/sean/7DCF1DCD6715DC30/local folders


Which operating system are you attempting to do this from? Mention of 
C:, F: and G: drives looks like Windows, but /media/sean/... looks like 
a Linux path. Your user-agent header also indicates that you're posting 
from Linux, although that may not be the system you're having problems 
with.


If Linux, it may be worth checking that the disk is mounted before 
starting SeaMonkey.


If you're attempting to share a single SeaMonkey profile between both 
Windows and Linux, that won't work - particularly in this case where 
there are paths which need to be specified differently on the two systems.


Well, not the case, sort of!! As my sig file indicates, I run SeaMonkey 
on both Win7 and MangiaLinux. Of course, both OS's have their related 
Profile files with-in their OS set-ups, but the E-mail, News Group and 
Bookmark files are stored on my Win7 E:\.


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
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Re: ebay and SeaMonkey Browser Support

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

I am not seeing anything logging in with with 2.49.4 and 2.53. Does this show 
only during checkout?


FRG

Big Jim wrote:
As of June 19th, ebay states that they will no longer support the SeaMonkey 
browser because it is outdated and unsafe.  A paste of the message I received 
is below...


eBay

Oh No!

We noticed that you’re on an outdated web browser that may compromise your 
security as you shop online.


As of June 19, 2018 you will no longer be able to check out on eBay with your 
current browser.

Update to the latest version now so you can continue
to check out safely and securely.

Why must we continually put up with this!

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Re: ebay and SeaMonkey Browser Support

[David E. Ross]

On 6/11/2018 6:07 PM, Big Jim wrote:
> As of June 19th, ebay states that they will no longer support the 
> SeaMonkey browser because it is outdated and unsafe.  A paste of the 
> message I received is below...
> 
> eBay
> 
> Oh No!
> 
> We noticed that you’re on an outdated web browser that may compromise 
> your security as you shop online.
> 
> As of June 19, 2018 you will no longer be able to check out on eBay with 
> your current browser.
> Update to the latest version now so you can continue
> to check out safely and securely.
>   
> Why must we continually put up with this!
> 

I see a similar warning when viewing the Web site of the U.S. Postal
Service.  However, I can still track a mailed item and also determine
the amount of postage required on a package or large envelope WITHOUT
spoofing some other browser.

-- 
David E. Ross


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And then you say you will, but then won't.
You're undecided now, so what're you goin' to do?
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That should be Donald Trump's theme song.  He obviously
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