Re: Form does not display in grupohla.com

2020-10-06 Thread Dirk Fieldhouse

On 06/10/2020 16:15, AndrésH wrote:

...>

Should I send this suggestion to the webmaster ?


If you think it's likely to be noticed, why not? Or enforce it with the 
StyleM extension.


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Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

2020-10-06 Thread David H. Durgee

Ray_Net wrote:

David H. Durgee wrote on 04-10-20 15:57:

Ray_Net wrote:

Stephen Katz wrote on 04-10-20 00:21:

On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 12:53:17 PM UTC-7, Ant wrote:

On 10/3/2020 11:38 AM, Stephen Katz wrote:
...

Youtube not a big issue. It's mostly the sites with ads. When it
freezes in the lower left says waiting for so-n-so. Why doesn't this
happen to Chrome? The STOP button doesn't work either. And you can't
close the window. Just the damn hourglass...
Is your SM better if you use an ad blocker with uBlock Origin? It's 
not

perfect, but it helps. Lots of web sites don't care for older browsers
like SeaMonkey that use older Gecko web browser engine (Firefox 
v57). If

you try the new Firefox v81.0.1, lots of web sites work fine even with
ads (not recommended IMO). :(
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If I am reading you all right Seamonkey has had it's day.  I am loathe
to change as it has been my friend for over 20-years.  My biggest
thing is the email, I am used to it and love it.  It pops right over
from Gmail.  Also being able to send a link.  Chrome doesn't do that.
I might as well for now run two browsers.  Sad...

"is the email, I am used to it and love it."
Why not using thunderbird ?

Have you seen the latest Thunderbird?  Ugh. I prefer SeaMonkey over both
Thunderbird and FireFox.  If someone could develop a SeaMonkey theme for
them perhaps I could tolerate them, but as is now I use FireFox only
when I absolutely must.

Dave

Thunderbird is more simple .. I appreciate it.


You are welcome to use it.  Definitely a matter of taste.  I have been 
using a suite since Netscape days and have no interest in changing at 
this late date.


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Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

2020-10-06 Thread Ray_Net

David H. Durgee wrote on 04-10-20 15:57:

Ray_Net wrote:

Stephen Katz wrote on 04-10-20 00:21:

On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 12:53:17 PM UTC-7, Ant wrote:

On 10/3/2020 11:38 AM, Stephen Katz wrote:
...

Youtube not a big issue. It's mostly the sites with ads. When it
freezes in the lower left says waiting for so-n-so. Why doesn't this
happen to Chrome? The STOP button doesn't work either. And you can't
close the window. Just the damn hourglass...

Is your SM better if you use an ad blocker with uBlock Origin? It's not
perfect, but it helps. Lots of web sites don't care for older browsers
like SeaMonkey that use older Gecko web browser engine (Firefox v57). If
you try the new Firefox v81.0.1, lots of web sites work fine even with
ads (not recommended IMO). :(
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Cool Miami ' .\' \ `. ``";.
Heat! ___/_-" | \ `. `.
===/// , ,-. .- .-; , , ,- ,L , ,_ ,-
--/// /_ |_/ _) /""|/|/ |_] /=_ /_ /=_ _)
___/// __ __ __ __  | ___
/// --/|| --// .' // "/ _// ))|(| "/
---/// /' || _//.; __//_. //_="' _\\
--///- -/---|| //'|| // ', _// ;| \\ ;
__///|__/_ _||_/< `||_//__"/ _// --|\ /-._// /
_/// | , | \ ---\\\ .'
___///_"/ | \ /`;=__.-'
\ \ \ /
ASCII art by `. \ \ ,'
-bodom- `. \ \ ,'
Remove ANT `-._ \ \ _.-'
to e-mail if needed. `--\..--'

If I am reading you all right Seamonkey has had it's day.  I am loathe
to change as it has been my friend for over 20-years.  My biggest
thing is the email, I am used to it and love it.  It pops right over
from Gmail.  Also being able to send a link.  Chrome doesn't do that.
I might as well for now run two browsers.  Sad...

"is the email, I am used to it and love it."
Why not using thunderbird ?

Have you seen the latest Thunderbird?  Ugh. I prefer SeaMonkey over both
Thunderbird and FireFox.  If someone could develop a SeaMonkey theme for
them perhaps I could tolerate them, but as is now I use FireFox only
when I absolutely must.

Dave

Thunderbird is more simple .. I appreciate it.
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Re: New York Times front page malfunctions

2020-10-06 Thread flyguy

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 9/30/2020 10:46 AM:

flyguy wrote:

Nuno Silva wrote on 9/29/2020 2:29 AM:

On 2020-09-28, flyguy wrote:


Lemuel Johnson wrote on 9/28/2020 8:46 AM:

On 9/28/2020 9:47 AM, flyguy wrote:

The "hamburger" menu and looking-glass search icon at the top left
of the front page (nytimes.com) stopped working in the last few
days; also missing from the top of the front page on the right side
is the "play the crossword" button and the Log In button. All these
items appear and work in Chrome. What's going on?


The hamburger appears for me all the time. I can make the others
appear (or not) by changing the width of my browser window.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.3


The hamburger appears for me, but does not produce the menu when I
click on it. Changing the width of the window does not make the "play
the crossword" button and the "Log In" button work.

I'm using 2.49.4. Perhaps I should update to 2.53.3?


I don't know the cause, but while the hamburger menu does nothing in
2.49.4 or 2.49.5, it does work with 2.53.3.

It's worse than I thought: clicking an article link takes me to the article, but 
at the bottom, the "read comments" button is missing, along with dozens of 
pictures, links, and contact information. I don't Seamonkey has changed, as I'm 
using the same 2.49.4, and my wife is experiencing the same issue on her 
computer, also running 2.94.4, so apparently the NY Times has changed in the 
last week or so; Chrome, however, is handling the NY Times change just fine. 
I'll try updating, and hope that fixes the problem.


The level you are using (as am I, don't ask) is 25 months old.
You need to move on eventually.


Right indeed! I backed up the profile, updated to 2.53.4, and it's all good again. 
Thanks, Lemuel, Nuno, and Don. Without the automatic updates, I lost the habit of 
updating.


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Re: Form does not display in grupohla.com

2020-10-06 Thread EE

AndrésH wrote:

Daniel escribió:

EE wrote on 6/10/2020 5:20 AM:

AndrésH wrote:
The following form https://www.grupohla.com/es/contact doesn't 
display in SM 2.53.4


The 2 checkboxes don't display in SM. In Pale moon e.g. they display 
and I can use the form .


I do not see any checkboxes on that page with any browser.  I see 
only text boxes in a form.


In my Win7 SM install, if I scroll down the page, I see check-boxes 
for "Quiero que mis datos sean procesados con fines comerciales o 
publicitarios" and "He leido y acepto la Política de Privacidad" and a 
button labelled "ENVAIR".


Not reading/understanding the language, I didn't check either box or 
press the button so don't know if they actually achieve anything.
The 2 sentences say the typical "I do authorize the use of my data for 
commercial and advertisements" and "I have read and accept privacy policy".


And both have a checkbox . I attach a screenshot wit Pale Moon


There is text below the form, but not with checkboxes next to the text.

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Re: Form does not display in grupohla.com

2020-10-06 Thread AndrésH

Dirk Fieldhouse escribió:

On 05/10/2020 15:47, AndrésH wrote:
The following form https://www.grupohla.com/es/contact doesn't 
display in SM 2.53.4


The 2 checkboxes don't display in SM. In Pale moon e.g. they display 
and I can use the form .


Somehow the checkboxes have become 0-sized, making it a tad difficult 
to select them.


Disable page styles (View>Use Style>None) or apply this CSS to make 
them appear:


..check-policies input[type="checkbox"] {
    height: 1ch;
}

/df


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Re: Form does not display in grupohla.com

2020-10-06 Thread Dirk Fieldhouse

On 05/10/2020 15:47, AndrésH wrote:
The following form https://www.grupohla.com/es/contact doesn't display 
in SM 2.53.4


The 2 checkboxes don't display in SM. In Pale moon e.g. they display and 
I can use the form .


Somehow the checkboxes have become 0-sized, making it a tad difficult to 
select them.


Disable page styles (View>Use Style>None) or apply this CSS to make them 
appear:


.check-policies input[type="checkbox"] {
height: 1ch;
}

/df

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Re: S/MIME problem with 2.53.2 and enigmail 2.0.9 [SOLVED]

2020-10-06 Thread David H. Durgee

David H. Durgee wrote:

David H. Durgee wrote:

A little over a year ago I decided I was concerned enough about privacy
and security to add enigmail to SM.  I found that S/MIME appeared to be
more used that PGP/MIME, so I obtained certificates for my email addresses.

Once I had this properly configured I was defaulting to S/MIME signing
my email messages so my recipients could be sure I was actually the
author of the email and it had not been tampered with.

This worked fine until a few days ago, when my certificate expired.  I
started getting error messages about no certificate being found and had
to disable signing email.

I even get errors while composing email:

Save Draft Error
Unable to save your message as a draft.
You specified that this message should be digitally signed, but the
application either failed to find the signing certificate specified in
your Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings, or the certificate has expired.

I obtained and installed new certificates, thinking that would solve the
problem.  Unfortunately the errors remain.  Thinking that perhaps I
needed to remove the expired certificates I did so, but that didn't
solve the problem either and now I get errors when I look at my sent emails.

I don't know if this is SM or enigmail with the problem, so I am posting
here first to see if anyone else her has encountered and corrected the
problem.  If not, I guess I will have to try enigmail support.

Thank you in advance for any assistance you may give.

Dave



A follow-up to this post.  I searched over on the Enigmail support forum
and found the following post:


S/MIME is builtin in Thunderbird - Enigmail does not "work" with S/MIME. All 
that Enigmail does is to choose the S/MIME algorithm if Thunderbird says that S/MIME is 
available. If you want to be sure that S/MIME is working correctly, then I'd start with 
disabling Enigmail, and making sure that S/MIME is correctly set up and working. After 
that's OK, you can enable Enigmail and let it decide if S/MIME or OpenPGP should be used.


So what I am encountering must be a SeaMonkey problem.  How do I proceed
to correct this problem?

Dave



A followup to conclude this thread and hopefully provide guidance to 
anyone else who wants to use S/MIME and encounters a similar problem.


The problem is now corrected.  It appears that somehow the certificate 
storage was damaged, cause not determined.  Given there was a change of 
certificate storage between 2.49.5 and 2.53.1 it is possibly a relic of 
that update, as the original certificates were in place prior to the 
update.  When these certificates expired the replacement certificates 
were not being found when attempting to compose a message, but were 
being found and used for displaying received messages.


Clearing the problem involved removing all certificates and clearing 
various prefs.js entries followed by importing the certificates again. 
If you need to do so Frank-Rainer Grahl can provide guidance on what is 
necessary.


During the course of diagnosing and correcting this problem I was also 
able to confirm that Enigmail is not required to support S/MIME in 
SeaMonkey.  So unless you require PGP support there is no reason to 
install the Enigmail extension.


My most profound thanks to Frank-Rainer Grahl for his assistance in 
solving this problem.  Thankfully it did not involve code fixes to solve 
the problem.  Without his assistance I would not be able to make use of 
S/MIME to sign my messages and encrypt them when appropriate.  He 
deserves all the appreciation of this group that we can give.


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Re: Form does not display in grupohla.com

2020-10-06 Thread Daniel

EE wrote on 6/10/2020 5:20 AM:

AndrésH wrote:
The following form https://www.grupohla.com/es/contact doesn't display 
in SM 2.53.4


The 2 checkboxes don't display in SM. In Pale moon e.g. they display 
and I can use the form .


I do not see any checkboxes on that page with any browser.  I see only 
text boxes in a form.


In my Win7 SM install, if I scroll down the page, I see check-boxes for 
"Quiero que mis datos sean procesados con fines comerciales o 
publicitarios" and "He leido y acepto la Política de Privacidad" and a 
button labelled "ENVAIR".


Not reading/understanding the language, I didn't check either box or 
press the button so don't know if they actually achieve anything.

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Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134


Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623

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