Re: Lemme Try This Again
Interviewed by CNN on 2/11/2009 21:38, cciaffone told the world: There's this web site I go to. I requires an ID and a password. With sm 1.1.18 it ALWAYS requires an ID and a password to get into the Main Page. But with sm 2, somehow I always bypass the ID and password, and go directly to the Main Page. Why is that? It *might* be that for some reason you set up your old Seamonkey to accept cookies only for the current session -- so next time you visited, your cookies had been deleted. If you allowed the new Seamonkey install to save cookies, it might take a while until those cookies expire. Note that, if true, this has *nothing* to do with the browser version or, indeed, which browser you are using; it's just that they are set up differently regarding cookie acceptance policies. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... DEFINE: De ting you get for breaking de law. * TagZilla 0.0661 * http://tagzilla.mozdev.org on Seamonkey 2 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Cannot Install Seamonkey 2.0?
Interviewed by CNN on 30/10/2009 21:42, Steven Hilgendorf told the world: Trying to install Seamonkey 2.0 on Windows Visa Premium. When I double-click on the install file it unpacks and throws up a Run As dialog indicating You my not have the necessary permissions to use all the features of the program you are about to run. You may run this program as a different user or continue to run the program as the current user. If I check the Current user box and click OK nothing happens, installation stops/ends. If I check the Run the program as the following user: [Administrator logon] box and click OK I get logon failure. The only account set up on this system is the one I'm using, which has full administrator rights, and I don't have any trouble installing other software, including earlier Seamonkey iterations. Try cancelling, right-clicking on the installer package and choosing run as administrator THERE. That is, right from the start. Vista admin rights are kinda funny. Even in a so-called administrator-level account there is stuff that only the real administrator can do. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... I like two kinds of women: domestic and foreign. * TagZilla 0.0661 * http://tagzilla.mozdev.org on Seamonkey 2 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0 - The Modern Internet Suite is Here!
Interviewed by CNN on 29/10/2009 13:18, Benoit Renard told the world: Robert Kaiser wrote: This is not our decision, it's the Mozilla toolkit that is dropping support for that after 3 years of no well-maintained new major release with that infrastructure - it's just that SeaMonkey did take quite long to do an actual release based on the new code. What's stopping you from adopting the code? Manpower. The day has just so many hours, the year has just so many days, and there's other stuff that needs doing. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Nudist Camp sign - Sorry, Clothed for Winter. * TagZilla 0.0661 * http://tagzilla.mozdev.org on Seamonkey 2 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?
Interviewed by CNN on 29/10/2009 13:01, asmpgmr told the world: On Oct 28, 4:26 pm, Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote: Feel free to try building this version, I'll try to continue our project meanwhile, OK? Clearly you couldn't care less what anyone else thinks if they don't agree with you. As SeaMonkey becomes more and more like Firefox + Thunderbird users will either migrate to them as they are mainstream and on the forefront of development or they will switch to something else entirely so you're ultimately doing yourself no favor with this attitude. Well, in KaiRo's defense, we're not *paying* him, so we have no right to give him *orders*. He's doing what he thinks is the best thing based on his knowledge of things, including the innards of both the old and the new Seamonkey. The statements I have seen, by him and many others, over the last few years, were that with Seamonkey no longer being an official Mozilla project (and therefore with far less money and manpower available for development) the best choice in the long run would be to make it as close to Firefox and Thunderbird as possible, in order to concentrate efforts in what makes Seamonkey unique, leaving stuff like the development of the Gecko engine in the hands of the Mozilla Foundation. What you were asking was to go back to the old Seamonkey code. Which is old, has known security bugs and is used *only* by Seamonkey, so the maintenance cannot be shared with the larger projects. He prefers instead to keep moving forward with the new code, which *is* shared with the official MoFo projects -- freeing valuable time from the maintenance of obsolete code to do other stuff that needs to be done. If you disagree, if you think you have a better idea of what's the best roadmap for whatever replaced the Mozilla Suite, well, the source code is available, just fork a new project. Maybe you can find enough interested programmers to backport Gecko 1.9 and Tracemonkey back to the old framework, and to maintain it. I wish you success. Personally, I would be happier in the short run if there was a way to use Multizilla with Seamonkey 2. But I understand that this would either involve holding up evolution of Seamonkey, or a massive rewriting job for Multizilla (which the Multizilla author currently has no time for). So for me it's a tradeoff: keep with SM 1.1.18, Multizilla but pass on stuff like a better rendering engine, faster Javascript and such, or move to SM2 and look for other ways to regain the functionality I was used to. So I decided to sacrifice short-term convenience for long-term evolution; I trust that eventually I'll find the right mix of extensions to do the things I used to do with Multizilla. And sometimes change is good to make you rethink the way you were doing things. Losing the Googlebox forced me to find another convenient way to do searches -- and I ended up with a *better* way. I could have used it back in SM 1.1.18, but I was too set in my ways. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Its a dogma-eat-dogma world! * TagZilla 0.0661 * http://tagzilla.mozdev.org on Seamonkey 2 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Does SM2.0 e-mail client work with folders stored on a LAN?
Interviewed by CNN on 29/10/2009 20:24, Claus told the world: Hi, I would like to know whether it is possible to install Seamonkey 2.0 with its e-mail client on each PC of a LAN and to store the e-mail account folders just on one central PC of the LAN in order to access these folders from any PC on the LAN. After having downloaded my e- mail to PC1, I would like to have access to these e-mails also on PC2, etc. If I send an e-mail from PC2, I would like to see this sent message also on PC3, etc. Is this possible? Thanks for your help! Claus It is possible, but not encouraged -- the performance is bad, and there's too much that can go wrong with that setup. Such as the network going down in the middle of a write, or two people trying to open the same file at the same time. (I think there is a very, very old bug on Bugzilla requesting support for roaming profiles -- which is kinda what you described, only taking the whole profile, not just the mail store. We are still waiting...) A much better solution is to set up a mailserver in the central PC (which is going to be doing the role of a server, natch) and access the mailboxes via IMAP. Which, by the way, *allows* two clients accessing the same mailbox at once. Most Linux distros nowadays include at least one first-class mail server package, with all the bells and whistles you might want. And, of course, all free software. If your server has to run Windows, choices are more limited. There are good commercial softwares, of course. I had a similar problem some time ago and ended up finding two freeware mailservers that both fulfilled the main constraints I had: 1. Had to run on Windows XP (not Windows Server), 2. Offer IMAP 3. Can download the mail from a POP server (that is, you don't have to set up your MX records to point to the server). Those are Mercury Mail Transport (from the same author as the well-known Pegasus Mail client) and Macallan Mail Solution. I hear very good things about Mercury, but at the time I ran into some trouble with it I had not the time to debug and ended up using Macallan -- it has a couple limitations (such as no native support for running as a service), but worked OK for my paltry needs. Mercury: http://www.pmail.com/ Macallan: http://pagesperso-orange.fr/macallan/MMS/ -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Kira of Borg. Now there's a terrifying thought... * TagZilla 0.0661 * http://tagzilla.mozdev.org on Seamonkey 2 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Seamonkey and Copernic Desktop Search
Now that we have moved to SM 2.0, I came back to an issue I wondered a long time ago: Copernic Desktop Search supports (indexes) Thunderbird mails. Seamonkey uses essentially the same format as TB, however, CDS does not recognize the SM mail folders. So, CDS probably checks either a fixed location or a TB config file to find the emails. Now, this is evidently a problem with Copernic. I tried requesting this feature of them, I tried for years, and they ignored me. Makes me want to switch search programs -- however, it's still better than the competition... So, what I was thinking... would it be possible to make a dummy Thunderbird installation in order to fool Copernic into indexing Seamonkey mail? Has anyone managed to do it? -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Conway's Law: In any organization there is one person who knows what is going on. That person must be fired. * TagZilla 0.0661 * http://tagzilla.mozdev.org on Seamonkey 2 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: email messages from one online site will not show remote content
Interviewed by CNN on 28/10/2009 15:15, Bill Davidsen told the world: Tony Higgins wrote: Is the image from a site which is (a) blocked, or (b) not the originating site (however that's interpreted in mail)? There are preferences for this stuff, block site, block image, block pop-up, enough to suggest a single block stuff panel might be useful, even if it duplicated functionality available already. This is one Multizilla feature I sorely miss. Under MZ, it's possible to set up mail in the following way: 1. Default: do not download images. 2. If you want to, there's an easy-to-click link on the header to download images for *this message only*. 3. If you want to, you can whitelist a sender, in order to always download images in their messages. Is there a SM2.0-compatible extension with similar functionality? -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Push any key. Then push the any other key. * TagZilla 0.0661 * http://tagzilla.mozdev.org on Seamonkey 2 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 1.1.18 and 2.0
Interviewed by CNN on 28/10/2009 15:08, Leonidas Jones told the world: Frosted Flake wrote: After installing 2.0 and migrating what I want from 1.1.18, I now have two SM versions. Can I just use Add/Remove programs to get rid of 1.1.18 without messing up 2.0? Yes. When are sure you don't need it, you might want to delete the old profile folder as well. Not quite. At least in my Windows, the uninstaller for 1.1.18 ended up deleting the shortcuts for 2.0, and also disassociating SM from being default browser and default mail client. But reinstalling SM 2.0 over the previous installation took care of the glitch. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Suicide is the most sincere form of self criticism. * TagZilla 0.0661 * http://tagzilla.mozdev.org on Seamonkey 2 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 1.1.18 to 2.0
Interviewed by CNN on 28/10/2009 16:11, cciaffone told the world: Can someone please point me to a simplified procedure to convert from 1.8 to 2.0, including email folders, nicknames and addys, newsgroups, the url history list, bookmarks, mail and news servers, etc. I would like to try the procedure on a spare machine before starting on the rest of our herd. OK. Best procedure would go as follows: 1. If you have a Seamonkey 2.0 alpha/beta/RC/nightly installed, uninstall it. Also, if you don't have any important data, delete the Seamonkey 2 profile folders. 2. Check if you have enough free disk space, because the old profile will be *copied*, not modified. This is particularly important if you have a lot of archived e-mail messages. In my case, for instance, my SM profile is about one and a half gigabytes. So I made sure I had at least 2 gigs free before beginning. 3. Just to be sure, back up your old Seamonkey profile. *I* had no trouble, but some people complained about losing data. 4. Uninstall Seamonkey 1.1.18. Do *not* delete the old profiles. 5. Install Seamonkey 2.0. It should offer to convert (copy) your old profile automatically. 6. Once you are satisfied that everything migrated normally, delete your old profile. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Did Qmodem originate in the Q continuum? * TagZilla 0.0661 * http://tagzilla.mozdev.org on Seamonkey 2 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 1.1.18 to 2.0
Interviewed by CNN on 28/10/2009 21:34, cciaffone told the world: Nope, never offered any such. I have now lost 3 accounts with email newsgroups bookmarks and history. Nothing remains. I am back to square 1. Well, in that case, try migrating manually. Close Seamonkey and then open the Profile Manager, and use it to import your old profile. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... I'm not the one that misplaced the Deltivid asteroid belt! - Q * TagZilla 0.0661 * http://tagzilla.mozdev.org on Seamonkey 2 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
