Moving profiles from SM to Firefox/Thunderbird

[Patrick Crumhorn]

Hi - since it increasingly appears that SeaMonkey for Windows is becoming abandonware, and I'm 
concerned about the resultant security vulnerabilities, what are the procedures for transferring 
bookmarks, mail address books, and password manager data from SM to Firefox/Thunderbird?  I use 
Windows 7 Home Premium and SM 2.33.1.


Thanks.
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Re: Windows 10

[Patrick Crumhorn]

I've never installed a new Windows OS until it's been out for at yeast a year and/or has had it's 
first full Service Pack released.  Way too many chances for bugs and incompatibilities otherwise.



Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

I've been reading that W10  will probably be Released To Manufacturing (RTM) in 
late July.
I also read that with Win7, 8, and 8.1, there was a significant time gap 
between RTM and
general availability — time enough for Microsoft to fix the really bad problems 
after the
software "shipped," but before it was widely available.

Finally, I also read that W7 and W8.1 machines will be offered a free upgrade 
to Win10
during the first year (starting point not defined).

Now my wife and I have received announcements of a free upgrade of our two W7 
machines to
W10. Apparently we can reserve an upgrade, and at some (undefined) point we will
automatically receive a W10 download.

This is all a bit confusing, and makes us uncomfortable (getting a forced 
download at some
vague point).

Thoughts, anyone? A good idea? Is W10 really ready? Impact on drivers, etc? 
What about Sea
Monkey? General reactions, informed or  otherwise?

Thank you for all ideas and advice.

Larry S.


Except for the SM question the best place to ask is the w10 group:
alt.comp.os.windows-10



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No multiple downloads with SM 2.9.1

[Patrick Crumhorn]

Since patching to SM 2.9.1 this morning, multiple downloads are broken.  I used to be able (as of 
last night even) to go to a site and start a download of an audio file from an html link, then do 
another one or two at the same time, but now when I start a new download, it will not start unless I 
pause the download already in progress.  And the paused d/l will not restart until I pause or 
complete or kill the other one.  This is a real problem - any suggested workarounds? (Using XP 
Professional, btw).

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Re: 2.3.2 .dmg file (for Mac) contains 2.3.1

[Patrick Crumhorn]

Thanks!  I figured that was the case, but just wanted that extra bit of assurance that the security 
issue was indeed fixed in this update.   :)



Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

On 8/31/2011 6:06 PM, Patrick Crumhorn wrote:


Similar issue here but with WinXP. Updated to 2.3.2 for Windows but the
"About SeaMonkey" page and the user agent both still show it as 2.3.1.

Frank Chan wrote:

On Aug 31, 6:34 am, Miles Fidelman wrote:

FYI:
After getting the "you're running an older version" message, downloading
and installing the 2.3.2 .dmg file (Mac), I found that I was still
getting the error message -- looking deeper, I found that the installed
version announces itself as 2.3.1, and looking into the downloaded
package, "get info" and the info.plist file revealed that it was, in
fact, 2.3.1 --- looks like something in the distribution pipeline went
wrong.

Already filed a big report.

--
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.  Yogi Berra


Saw the same thing here. I also downloaded the SeaMonkey2.3.2.dmg from
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#2.3.2 and got the disk
image of what appears to be SeaMonkey version 2.3.2 but it actually is
version 2.3.1 when I copied to my hard drive and opened it. Can
someone check what happened to the real version 2.3.2?

Thank you,
Frank




I created a blog post about this:
http://blog.drapostles.org/archives/69



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Re: 2.3.2 .dmg file (for Mac) contains 2.3.1

[Patrick Crumhorn]

Similar issue here but with WinXP.  Updated to 2.3.2 for Windows but the "About SeaMonkey" page and 
the user agent both still show it as 2.3.1.


Frank Chan wrote:

On Aug 31, 6:34 am, Miles Fidelman  wrote:

FYI:
After getting the "you're running an older version" message, downloading
and installing the 2.3.2 .dmg file (Mac), I found that I was still
getting the error message -- looking deeper, I found that the installed
version announces itself as 2.3.1, and looking into the downloaded
package, "get info" and the info.plist file revealed that it was, in
fact, 2.3.1  --- looks like something in the distribution pipeline went
wrong.

Already filed a big report.

--
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
Inpractice, there is.    Yogi Berra


Saw the same thing here. I also downloaded the SeaMonkey2.3.2.dmg from
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#2.3.2 and got the disk
image of what appears to be SeaMonkey version 2.3.2 but it actually is
version 2.3.1 when I copied to my hard drive and opened it. Can
someone check what happened to the real version 2.3.2?

Thank you,
Frank


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Sending mail to trash in SM 2.0.x

[Patrick Crumhorn]

Hi - hope this isn't dumb question time, but I'm stumped.  When I delete items from my mail inbox, 
some of them go into the trash folder, while others just disappear.  All messages flagged as "junk" 
are sent to trash, but deleted non-junk messages just vanish, it seems.  This is occasionally 
inconvenient when I want to recover a deleted message from the trash.  I can't find any setting that 
allows me to control this behavior.  Help?

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Re: Cannot Launch SeaMonkey 2

[Patrick Crumhorn]

Wow, that did the trick, Philip. Thank you!



Philip Chee wrote:

On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:05:39 -0500, Patrick Crumhorn wrote:


Well, ok - after changing the default install directory to Program
Files\SeaMonkey2 rather than Program Files\SeaMonkey, I got SM 2.0 to
launch, but with no import wizard.  I used the command line
-migration process, and mail and bookmarks all came over flawlessly,
BUT...

My very large password file, while *appearing* to migrate (there is
an identical .s file and key3.db file in both the 1.1.8 profile and
in the new SM 2.0 profile), shows up empty in "Profile Manager." This
alone will keep me using 1.1.18 for a good long while, as it would
literally take days of spare time to laboriously copy over each URL
and password manually.  Why does this not work? It seems like it
should.


Shut down SM2.0. Locate your profile and delete signons.sqlite. Restart
SM2.0. If this doesn't work it probably means that there is a lot of
random cruft the the migration code doesn't understand especially if you
had this profile since mozilla suite 1.x.

Phil



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Re: Cannot Launch SeaMonkey 2

[Patrick Crumhorn]

Er, I meant it shows up empty in "Password Manager"

Patrick Crumhorn wrote:

My very large password file, while *appearing* to migrate (there is an 
identical .s file and key3.db file in both the 1.1.8 profile and in the 
new SM 2.0 profile), shows up empty in "Profile Manager."  This alone 
will keep me using 1.1.18 for a good long while, as it would literally 
take days of spare time to laboriously copy over each URL and password 
manually.  Why does this not work? It seems like it should.




Patrick Crumhorn wrote:


This is exactly my problem as well. I installed SM 2.0 tonight on my
WinXP Professional SP2 system that already has 1.1.18 working fine.
After install I was prompted to launch SeaMonkey but nothing happens. It
will not launch - at all - from the desktop icon or directly from the
.exe file. No sign of it in Task Manager processes either. Fortunately
my 1.1.18 is untouched, so I'll probably use that for the foreseeable
future. I'd hate to have to switch to FF and TB since I've used the
suite since Navigator 4 but this just isn't working for me.

Oh, the only parent.lock file I found anywhere was in my old SeaMonkey
profile, none in the SM 2 directories at all. I deleted it as suggested,
but no effect.



nr wrote:

On Oct 27, 7:39 pm, "David E. Ross"  wrote:

In the meantime, I've reverted back to SM 1.1.18.

I won't use IE except for downloading and installing Windows XP updates
because I've declined to install various security updates for it. Thus,
I don't consider it a full-function, working browser in my
configuration.

--
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

Go to Mozdev at <http://www.mozdev.org/> for quick access to
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other
Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much
more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons.


I had 1.1.18 installed and running fine. I downloaded 2.0 (just a
little while ago), installed it (no problems), then, like David it
asked if I wanted to run. I said yes and nothing happened. I also
double-clicked the SM icon in the SM folder: nothing.

I have only one profile and I did not uninstall 1.1.18. I looked in
the SeaMonkey folder and the seamonkey.exe file had a date from
September. I would have expected it to have an October date.

I have reloaded 1.1.18 but am disappointed with the 2.0 problem. I'm
running XP-SP3.

Thanks for any help.



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Re: Cannot Launch SeaMonkey 2

[Patrick Crumhorn]

Well, ok - after changing the default install directory to Program Files\SeaMonkey2 rather than 
Program Files\SeaMonkey, I got SM 2.0 to launch, but with no import wizard.  I used the command line 
-migration process, and mail and bookmarks all came over flawlessly, BUT...


My very large password file, while *appearing* to migrate (there is an identical .s file and key3.db 
file in both the 1.1.8 profile and in the new SM 2.0 profile), shows up empty in "Profile Manager." 
 This alone will keep me using 1.1.18 for a good long while, as it would literally take days of 
spare time to laboriously copy over each URL and password manually.  Why does this not work? It 
seems like it should.




Patrick Crumhorn wrote:


This is exactly my problem as well. I installed SM 2.0 tonight on my
WinXP Professional SP2 system that already has 1.1.18 working fine.
After install I was prompted to launch SeaMonkey but nothing happens. It
will not launch - at all - from the desktop icon or directly from the
.exe file. No sign of it in Task Manager processes either. Fortunately
my 1.1.18 is untouched, so I'll probably use that for the foreseeable
future. I'd hate to have to switch to FF and TB since I've used the
suite since Navigator 4 but this just isn't working for me.

Oh, the only parent.lock file I found anywhere was in my old SeaMonkey
profile, none in the SM 2 directories at all. I deleted it as suggested,
but no effect.



nr wrote:

On Oct 27, 7:39 pm, "David E. Ross"  wrote:

In the meantime, I've reverted back to SM 1.1.18.

I won't use IE except for downloading and installing Windows XP updates
because I've declined to install various security updates for it. Thus,
I don't consider it a full-function, working browser in my
configuration.

--
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

Go to Mozdev at <http://www.mozdev.org/> for quick access to
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other
Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much
more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons.


I had 1.1.18 installed and running fine. I downloaded 2.0 (just a
little while ago), installed it (no problems), then, like David it
asked if I wanted to run. I said yes and nothing happened. I also
double-clicked the SM icon in the SM folder: nothing.

I have only one profile and I did not uninstall 1.1.18. I looked in
the SeaMonkey folder and the seamonkey.exe file had a date from
September. I would have expected it to have an October date.

I have reloaded 1.1.18 but am disappointed with the 2.0 problem. I'm
running XP-SP3.

Thanks for any help.


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Re: Cannot Launch SeaMonkey 2

[Patrick Crumhorn]

This is exactly my problem as well. I installed SM 2.0 tonight on my WinXP Professional SP2 system 
that already has 1.1.18 working fine.  After install I was prompted to launch SeaMonkey but nothing 
happens.  It will not launch - at all - from the desktop icon or directly from the .exe file.  No 
sign of it in Task Manager processes either.  Fortunately my 1.1.18 is untouched, so I'll probably 
use that for the foreseeable future.  I'd hate to have to switch to FF and TB since I've used the 
suite since Navigator 4 but this just isn't working for me.


Oh, the only parent.lock file I found anywhere was in my old SeaMonkey profile, none in the SM 2 
directories at all.  I deleted it as suggested, but no effect.




nr wrote:

On Oct 27, 7:39 pm, "David E. Ross"  wrote:

In the meantime, I've reverted back to SM 1.1.18.

I won't use IE except for downloading and installing Windows XP updates
because I've declined to install various security updates for it.  Thus,
I don't consider it a full-function, working browser in my configuration.

--
David E. Ross


Go to Mozdev at  for quick access to
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other
Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons.


I had 1.1.18 installed and running fine.  I downloaded 2.0 (just a
little while ago), installed it (no problems), then, like David it
asked if I wanted to run.  I said yes and nothing happened.  I also
double-clicked the SM icon in the SM folder: nothing.

I have only one profile and I did not uninstall 1.1.18.  I looked in
the SeaMonkey folder and the seamonkey.exe file had a date from
September.  I would have expected it to have an October date.

I have reloaded 1.1.18 but am disappointed with the 2.0 problem.  I'm
running XP-SP3.

Thanks for any help.

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