Re: Long startup times for applications

2014-04-02 Thread sean nathan

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

stan pierce wrote:

stan pierce wrote:

I've been having trouble for a few weeks. When I invoke things like
FaceBook and LiveJournal, there is an indication that much information
is being downloaded before the application actually is ready for use.
Usually the Task Manager Application shows Not Responding. Sometimes
if I wait a minute or two, the application finally gets started.

I tried these with IE and they work fine.


Oh yes, disabling add-ons does not solve the problem.


I have been struggling with this issue for nearly a month.

1. It is only a problem on my XP SP3 machines which also have less
memory and slower cpu. I have no problem on newer, faster machines
running Win 7.

2. On Facebook, the problem does not exist if I am on my Timeline. I
only see it on the Newsfeed when the bottom of the screen shows
continually loading data from somewhere like akamailhd.net (sp?). This
goes on forever on the XP machines but stops almost immediately on Win
7. On the XP machine, Task Manager shows SM using 90-95 % of the CPU so
everything grinds to a very slow pace.

3. I have limited success using IE Tab which lets your browser emulate
the IE browser. This is an improvement but still not anywhere near as
good as using IE or Google Chrome directly.

4. I have tried using a brand new Test profile using the SM defaults,
disabled all add-ons, starting in Safe mode. Nothing helps on my XP
computers. As I said earlier, there is no problem on my Win 7 machines.



inevitably, someone will tell you to leave XP behind... while you do 
need to move on to something fresh and more secure, this slow lagging 
Seamonkey issue is not just an outdated software issue...


i have a very up to date laptop running a version of linux that receives 
updates weekly... the browser in Seamonkey slows to a crawl with 
facebook, twttr and a few graphics intensive blog pages...


been using chromium more and more, SM is just too frustrating...

sean



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Re: Long startup times for applications

2014-03-14 Thread Arnie Goetchius
stan pierce wrote:
 Arnie Goetchius wrote:
 stan pierce wrote:
 stan pierce wrote:
 I've been having trouble for a few weeks. When I invoke things like
 FaceBook and LiveJournal, there is an indication that much information
 is being downloaded before the application actually is ready for use.
 Usually the Task Manager Application shows Not Responding. Sometimes
 if I wait a minute or two, the application finally gets started.

 I tried these with IE and they work fine.

 Oh yes, disabling add-ons does not solve the problem.

 I have been struggling with this issue for nearly a month.

 1. It is only a problem on my XP SP3 machines which also have less
 memory and slower cpu. I have no problem on newer, faster machines
 running Win 7.

 2. On Facebook, the problem does not exist if I am on my Timeline. I
 only see it on the Newsfeed when the bottom of the screen shows
 continually loading data from somewhere like akamailhd.net (sp?). This
 goes on forever on the XP machines but stops almost immediately on Win
 7. On the XP machine, Task Manager shows SM using 90-95 % of the CPU so
 everything grinds to a very slow pace.

 3. I have limited success using IE Tab which lets your browser emulate
 the IE browser. This is an improvement but still not anywhere near as
 good as using IE or Google Chrome directly.

 4. I have tried using a brand new Test profile using the SM defaults,
 disabled all add-ons, starting in Safe mode. Nothing helps on my XP
 computers. As I said earlier, there is no problem on my Win 7 machines.

 I just tried using IE for FaceBook as well as a few other things like
 Live Journal and Huffington News and they all start right up in IE. This
 suggests a problem with SeaMonkey, doesn't it?
I have the same problem with FireFox 27. I have now installed FF 3.0 on
a test computer and it works fine. I will work forward to find out in
which version slows it down. Will do the same with SM to see where the
problem starts. For regular work in Facebook, I'll use IE or Google
Chrome (Opera and Safari also work fine) until SM is fixed.
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Re: Long startup times for applications

2014-03-12 Thread hawker

On 3/11/2014 9:27 PM, Dennis wrote:

hawker wrote:

On 3/11/2014 12:36 PM, WaltS wrote:

On 03/11/2014 11:43 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

cyberzen wrote, On 11/03/2014 09:01:

Le 10/03/2014 02:14, Paul B. Gallagher a écrit :

Arnie Goetchius wrote:


I have been struggling with this issue for nearly a month.

1. It is only a problem on my XP SP3 machines which also have less
memory and slower cpu. I have no problem on newer, faster machines
running Win 7.


http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/03/08/millions-of-computer-may-be-at-risk-of-attack-next-month/




Think about it.


think about Linux


If you like to be a geek :-)



No need to be a geek despite my geeky instructions to lxuser in
m.s.firefox.

I can give you the GUI instructions if interested.


More like need to not be using any real world applications and be less
productive with the simpler Linux equivalent of the others.

90% of the applications I need to use every day for work have no Linux
equivalent. For home use I could pretty much move to Linux but not even
close for work. I would still have to run some sort of PC OS.
Linux just does not have industry recognized business applications,
electrical engineering applications, CAD apps, PCB layout apps or
targeted embedded processor apps. All of which I use daily. Same issue
with Mac.



If your statements are in fact true, you are in a very small minority of
the work force. I wish people would stop spreading FUD about linux.

I would wager that 90% of the workforce could be transitioned to linux
with no major problems.

Dennis



To make that statement you clearly have no idea what programs the 
business, sales and engineering community uses.  There really are no 
substitutes for most of it. Even programs like Open Office can't do a 
huge percentage of the things that people who use Office every day need 
to do - Especially when it comes to constant formatting of Word and 
Larger issues with Excel.


Almost no large scale Sales or MRP/ERP programs exist in Linux. 
Certainly no main stream accepted ones. Almost no CAD or Engineering 
programs (outside of software) exist for Linux. No main stream 
multimedia or graphic programs exist (GIMP is a toy). The software that 
designs all those Linux boxes (PCB Layout - embedded programing tools, 
Industrial design tools etc) - exists on PC only.


I have worked with many a die hard Linux (and Mac) head they all either 
move to PC or run Windows in a VC once the reality of the working world 
hits them.


The business world lives on Oracle, ACT, Quick-books, Office, PhotoShop, 
Outlook, and a whole host of industry specialized applications (such as 
ACAD, Pro-E, Solid Works, PADS) for each industry, all of which have no 
Linux recognized equivalent and even if it did it would have to 
seemlessly interface with those apps since the rest of the world uses 
them. Even the fact that I try to use Seamonkey rather than Outlook is a 
major stumbling block to me interfacing with the rest of the world in a 
business sense since I get lots of e-mail incompatibility issues.



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Re: Long startup times for applications

2014-03-12 Thread stan pierce

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

stan pierce wrote:

stan pierce wrote:

I've been having trouble for a few weeks. When I invoke things like
FaceBook and LiveJournal, there is an indication that much information
is being downloaded before the application actually is ready for use.
Usually the Task Manager Application shows Not Responding. Sometimes
if I wait a minute or two, the application finally gets started.

I tried these with IE and they work fine.


Oh yes, disabling add-ons does not solve the problem.


I have been struggling with this issue for nearly a month.

1. It is only a problem on my XP SP3 machines which also have less
memory and slower cpu. I have no problem on newer, faster machines
running Win 7.

2. On Facebook, the problem does not exist if I am on my Timeline. I
only see it on the Newsfeed when the bottom of the screen shows
continually loading data from somewhere like akamailhd.net (sp?). This
goes on forever on the XP machines but stops almost immediately on Win
7. On the XP machine, Task Manager shows SM using 90-95 % of the CPU so
everything grinds to a very slow pace.

3. I have limited success using IE Tab which lets your browser emulate
the IE browser. This is an improvement but still not anywhere near as
good as using IE or Google Chrome directly.

4. I have tried using a brand new Test profile using the SM defaults,
disabled all add-ons, starting in Safe mode. Nothing helps on my XP
computers. As I said earlier, there is no problem on my Win 7 machines.

I just tried using IE for FaceBook as well as a few other things like 
Live Journal and Huffington News and they all start right up in IE. This 
suggests a problem with SeaMonkey, doesn't it?

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Re: Long startup times for applications

2014-03-12 Thread WaltS

stan pierce wrote:

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

stan pierce wrote:

stan pierce wrote:

I've been having trouble for a few weeks. When I invoke things like
FaceBook and LiveJournal, there is an indication that much information
is being downloaded before the application actually is ready for use.
Usually the Task Manager Application shows Not Responding. Sometimes
if I wait a minute or two, the application finally gets started.

I tried these with IE and they work fine.


Oh yes, disabling add-ons does not solve the problem.


I have been struggling with this issue for nearly a month.

1. It is only a problem on my XP SP3 machines which also have less
memory and slower cpu. I have no problem on newer, faster machines
running Win 7.

2. On Facebook, the problem does not exist if I am on my Timeline. I
only see it on the Newsfeed when the bottom of the screen shows
continually loading data from somewhere like akamailhd.net (sp?). This
goes on forever on the XP machines but stops almost immediately on Win
7. On the XP machine, Task Manager shows SM using 90-95 % of the CPU so
everything grinds to a very slow pace.

3. I have limited success using IE Tab which lets your browser emulate
the IE browser. This is an improvement but still not anywhere near as
good as using IE or Google Chrome directly.

4. I have tried using a brand new Test profile using the SM defaults,
disabled all add-ons, starting in Safe mode. Nothing helps on my XP
computers. As I said earlier, there is no problem on my Win 7 machines.


I just tried using IE for FaceBook as well as a few other things like
Live Journal and Huffington News and they all start right up in IE. This
suggests a problem with SeaMonkey, doesn't it?



Possibly, but wait a week and SeaMonkey 2.25 should be released and your 
problem possibly fixed.


Possibly, maybe, might be a problem with your Cache options. Mine are 
set to let SeaMonkey manage the cache, compare when the page is out of 
date, and to prefetch.


Edit  Preferences  Advanced  Cache

Do you have hardware acceleration enabled? Have you tried disabling it?

Edit  Preferences  Appearance  Content


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Re: Long startup times for applications

2014-03-12 Thread Ray_Net

hawker wrote, On 12/03/2014 15:23:

On 3/11/2014 9:27 PM, Dennis wrote:

hawker wrote:

On 3/11/2014 12:36 PM, WaltS wrote:

On 03/11/2014 11:43 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

cyberzen wrote, On 11/03/2014 09:01:

Le 10/03/2014 02:14, Paul B. Gallagher a écrit :

Arnie Goetchius wrote:


I have been struggling with this issue for nearly a month.

1. It is only a problem on my XP SP3 machines which also have less
memory and slower cpu. I have no problem on newer, faster machines
running Win 7.


http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/03/08/millions-of-computer-may-be-at-risk-of-attack-next-month/ 






Think about it.


think about Linux


If you like to be a geek :-)



No need to be a geek despite my geeky instructions to lxuser in
m.s.firefox.

I can give you the GUI instructions if interested.


More like need to not be using any real world applications and be less
productive with the simpler Linux equivalent of the others.

90% of the applications I need to use every day for work have no Linux
equivalent. For home use I could pretty much move to Linux but not even
close for work. I would still have to run some sort of PC OS.
Linux just does not have industry recognized business applications,
electrical engineering applications, CAD apps, PCB layout apps or
targeted embedded processor apps. All of which I use daily. Same issue
with Mac.



If your statements are in fact true, you are in a very small minority of
the work force. I wish people would stop spreading FUD about linux.

I would wager that 90% of the workforce could be transitioned to linux
with no major problems.

Dennis



To make that statement you clearly have no idea what programs the 
business, sales and engineering community uses.  There really are no 
substitutes for most of it. Even programs like Open Office can't do a 
huge percentage of the things that people who use Office every day 
need to do - Especially when it comes to constant formatting of Word 
and Larger issues with Excel.


Almost no large scale Sales or MRP/ERP programs exist in Linux. 
Certainly no main stream accepted ones. Almost no CAD or Engineering 
programs (outside of software) exist for Linux. No main stream 
multimedia or graphic programs exist (GIMP is a toy). The software 
that designs all those Linux boxes (PCB Layout - embedded programing 
tools, Industrial design tools etc) - exists on PC only.


I have worked with many a die hard Linux (and Mac) head they all 
either move to PC or run Windows in a VC once the reality of the 
working world hits them.


The business world lives on Oracle, ACT, Quick-books, Office, 
PhotoShop, Outlook, and a whole host of industry specialized 
applications (such as ACAD, Pro-E, Solid Works, PADS) for each 
industry, all of which have no Linux recognized equivalent and even if 
it did it would have to seemlessly interface with those apps since the 
rest of the world uses them. Even the fact that I try to use Seamonkey 
rather than Outlook is a major stumbling block to me interfacing with 
the rest of the world in a business sense since I get lots of e-mail 
incompatibility issues.




I agree with you .. linux men did not realise what's outside their world.
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Re: Long startup times for applications

2014-03-11 Thread cyberzen

Le 10/03/2014 02:14, Paul B. Gallagher a écrit :

Arnie Goetchius wrote:


I have been struggling with this issue for nearly a month.

1. It is only a problem on my XP SP3 machines which also have less
memory and slower cpu. I have no problem on newer, faster machines
running Win 7.


http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/03/08/millions-of-computer-may-be-at-risk-of-attack-next-month/


Think about it.


think about Linux

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Re: Long startup times for applications

2014-03-11 Thread Ray_Net

cyberzen wrote, On 11/03/2014 09:01:

Le 10/03/2014 02:14, Paul B. Gallagher a écrit :

Arnie Goetchius wrote:


I have been struggling with this issue for nearly a month.

1. It is only a problem on my XP SP3 machines which also have less
memory and slower cpu. I have no problem on newer, faster machines
running Win 7.


http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/03/08/millions-of-computer-may-be-at-risk-of-attack-next-month/ 




Think about it.


think about Linux


If you like to be a geek :-)
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Re: Long startup times for applications

2014-03-11 Thread WaltS

On 03/11/2014 11:43 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

cyberzen wrote, On 11/03/2014 09:01:

Le 10/03/2014 02:14, Paul B. Gallagher a écrit :

Arnie Goetchius wrote:


I have been struggling with this issue for nearly a month.

1. It is only a problem on my XP SP3 machines which also have less
memory and slower cpu. I have no problem on newer, faster machines
running Win 7.


http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/03/08/millions-of-computer-may-be-at-risk-of-attack-next-month/



Think about it.


think about Linux


If you like to be a geek :-)



No need to be a geek despite my geeky instructions to lxuser in m.s.firefox.

I can give you the GUI instructions if interested.
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Re: Long startup times for applications

2014-03-11 Thread hawker

On 3/11/2014 12:36 PM, WaltS wrote:

On 03/11/2014 11:43 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

cyberzen wrote, On 11/03/2014 09:01:

Le 10/03/2014 02:14, Paul B. Gallagher a écrit :

Arnie Goetchius wrote:


I have been struggling with this issue for nearly a month.

1. It is only a problem on my XP SP3 machines which also have less
memory and slower cpu. I have no problem on newer, faster machines
running Win 7.


http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/03/08/millions-of-computer-may-be-at-risk-of-attack-next-month/




Think about it.


think about Linux


If you like to be a geek :-)



No need to be a geek despite my geeky instructions to lxuser in
m.s.firefox.

I can give you the GUI instructions if interested.


More like need to not be using any real world applications and be less 
productive with the simpler Linux equivalent of the others.


90% of the applications I need to use every day for work have no Linux 
equivalent. For home use I could pretty much move to Linux but not even 
close for work. I would still have to run some sort of PC OS.
Linux just does not have industry recognized business applications, 
electrical engineering applications, CAD apps, PCB layout apps or 
targeted embedded processor apps. All of which I use daily. Same issue 
with Mac.

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Re: Long startup times for applications

2014-03-11 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 11/03/2014 12:43, Ray_Net told the world:
 cyberzen wrote, On 11/03/2014 09:01:
 Le 10/03/2014 02:14, Paul B. Gallagher a écrit :
 Arnie Goetchius wrote:

 I have been struggling with this issue for nearly a month.

 1. It is only a problem on my XP SP3 machines which also have less
 memory and slower cpu. I have no problem on newer, faster machines
 running Win 7.

 http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/03/08/millions-of-computer-may-be-at-risk-of-attack-next-month/
  



 Think about it.

 think about Linux

 If you like to be a geek :-)
 

By the way, the Linux Foundation parnered with edx.org to make available
for free an introductory Linux online course (normal price: US$
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Re: Long startup times for applications

2014-03-11 Thread Dennis
hawker wrote:
 On 3/11/2014 12:36 PM, WaltS wrote:
 On 03/11/2014 11:43 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
 cyberzen wrote, On 11/03/2014 09:01:
 Le 10/03/2014 02:14, Paul B. Gallagher a écrit :
 Arnie Goetchius wrote:

 I have been struggling with this issue for nearly a month.

 1. It is only a problem on my XP SP3 machines which also have less
 memory and slower cpu. I have no problem on newer, faster machines
 running Win 7.

 http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/03/08/millions-of-computer-may-be-at-risk-of-attack-next-month/




 Think about it.

 think about Linux

 If you like to be a geek :-)


 No need to be a geek despite my geeky instructions to lxuser in
 m.s.firefox.

 I can give you the GUI instructions if interested.
 
 More like need to not be using any real world applications and be less 
 productive with the simpler Linux equivalent of the others.
 
 90% of the applications I need to use every day for work have no Linux 
 equivalent. For home use I could pretty much move to Linux but not even 
 close for work. I would still have to run some sort of PC OS.
 Linux just does not have industry recognized business applications, 
 electrical engineering applications, CAD apps, PCB layout apps or 
 targeted embedded processor apps. All of which I use daily. Same issue 
 with Mac.
 

If your statements are in fact true, you are in a very small minority of
the work force. I wish people would stop spreading FUD about linux.

I would wager that 90% of the workforce could be transitioned to linux
with no major problems.

Dennis

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Re: Long startup times for applications

2014-03-11 Thread Ed Mullen

Dennis wrote:

hawker wrote:

On 3/11/2014 12:36 PM, WaltS wrote:

On 03/11/2014 11:43 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

cyberzen wrote, On 11/03/2014 09:01:

Le 10/03/2014 02:14, Paul B. Gallagher a écrit :

Arnie Goetchius wrote:


I have been struggling with this issue for nearly a month.

1. It is only a problem on my XP SP3 machines which also have less
memory and slower cpu. I have no problem on newer, faster machines
running Win 7.


http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/03/08/millions-of-computer-may-be-at-risk-of-attack-next-month/




Think about it.


think about Linux


If you like to be a geek :-)



No need to be a geek despite my geeky instructions to lxuser in
m.s.firefox.

I can give you the GUI instructions if interested.


More like need to not be using any real world applications and be less
productive with the simpler Linux equivalent of the others.

90% of the applications I need to use every day for work have no Linux
equivalent. For home use I could pretty much move to Linux but not even
close for work. I would still have to run some sort of PC OS.
Linux just does not have industry recognized business applications,
electrical engineering applications, CAD apps, PCB layout apps or
targeted embedded processor apps. All of which I use daily. Same issue
with Mac.



If your statements are in fact true, you are in a very small minority of
the work force. I wish people would stop spreading FUD about linux.

I would wager that 90% of the workforce could be transitioned to linux
with no major problems.

Dennis



For that staement to be considered valid you'd need to provide some basis.

Many of my apps have no Linux distros.  Sorry, Linux is NOT mainstream 
at all.  Look at market share numbers.


I'm glad you're happy with it. I wouldn't consider it in a heartbeat. 
And I have considered it in the past, more than once.


I've posted here about this in the past, including a list of apps I 
depend upon that have no Linux releases.


I'm all for rebels but this is a practical issue, not an emotional nor 
political one.


Both Linux and Apple are niche products.  Just look at market share.

Call me when one of them takes over the computing world.


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Re: Long startup times for applications

2014-03-10 Thread stan pierce

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

stan pierce wrote:

stan pierce wrote:

I've been having trouble for a few weeks. When I invoke things like
FaceBook and LiveJournal, there is an indication that much information
is being downloaded before the application actually is ready for use.
Usually the Task Manager Application shows Not Responding. Sometimes
if I wait a minute or two, the application finally gets started.

I tried these with IE and they work fine.


Oh yes, disabling add-ons does not solve the problem.


I have been struggling with this issue for nearly a month.

1. It is only a problem on my XP SP3 machines which also have less
memory and slower cpu. I have no problem on newer, faster machines
running Win 7.

2. On Facebook, the problem does not exist if I am on my Timeline. I
only see it on the Newsfeed when the bottom of the screen shows
continually loading data from somewhere like akamailhd.net (sp?). This
goes on forever on the XP machines but stops almost immediately on Win
7. On the XP machine, Task Manager shows SM using 90-95 % of the CPU so
everything grinds to a very slow pace.

3. I have limited success using IE Tab which lets your browser emulate
the IE browser. This is an improvement but still not anywhere near as
good as using IE or Google Chrome directly.

4. I have tried using a brand new Test profile using the SM defaults,
disabled all add-ons, starting in Safe mode. Nothing helps on my XP
computers. As I said earlier, there is no problem on my Win 7 machines.



I'm on VISTA and a fast Acer computer but sounds like a similar problem. 
I'm thinking of buying a new computer with Windows 7 or 8 but dreading 
the switchover.

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Re: Long startup times for applications

2014-03-10 Thread Trane Francks

On 3/10/14 10:57 PM +0900, stan pierce wrote:

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

stan pierce wrote:

stan pierce wrote:

I've been having trouble for a few weeks. When I invoke things like
FaceBook and LiveJournal, there is an indication that much information
is being downloaded before the application actually is ready for use.
Usually the Task Manager Application shows Not Responding. Sometimes
if I wait a minute or two, the application finally gets started.

I tried these with IE and they work fine.


Oh yes, disabling add-ons does not solve the problem.


I have been struggling with this issue for nearly a month.

1. It is only a problem on my XP SP3 machines which also have less
memory and slower cpu. I have no problem on newer, faster machines
running Win 7.

2. On Facebook, the problem does not exist if I am on my Timeline. I
only see it on the Newsfeed when the bottom of the screen shows
continually loading data from somewhere like akamailhd.net (sp?). This
goes on forever on the XP machines but stops almost immediately on Win
7. On the XP machine, Task Manager shows SM using 90-95 % of the CPU so
everything grinds to a very slow pace.

3. I have limited success using IE Tab which lets your browser emulate
the IE browser. This is an improvement but still not anywhere near as
good as using IE or Google Chrome directly.

4. I have tried using a brand new Test profile using the SM defaults,
disabled all add-ons, starting in Safe mode. Nothing helps on my XP
computers. As I said earlier, there is no problem on my Win 7 machines.



I'm on VISTA and a fast Acer computer but sounds like a similar problem.
I'm thinking of buying a new computer with Windows 7 or 8 but dreading
the switchover.

Moving from Vista and later to a new Windows computer is not much of a 
problem for most users. Profiles from Vista onward are pretty 
transparent. The big gotcha is to make sure you use MozBackup to pack up 
your SeaMonkey profiles; otherwise, you may not get the necessary 
SeaMonkey profile information written to the registry on the new system. 
A test migration of a user account using Windows Easy Transfer + 
MozBackup should give you a good indication of how to preserve your SM data.


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Long startup times for applications

2014-03-09 Thread stan pierce
I've been having trouble for a few weeks. When I invoke things like 
FaceBook and LiveJournal, there is an indication that much information 
is being downloaded before the application actually is ready for use. 
Usually the Task Manager Application shows Not Responding. Sometimes 
if I wait a minute or two, the application finally gets started.


I tried these with IE and they work fine.
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Re: Long startup times for applications

2014-03-09 Thread stan pierce

stan pierce wrote:

I've been having trouble for a few weeks. When I invoke things like
FaceBook and LiveJournal, there is an indication that much information
is being downloaded before the application actually is ready for use.
Usually the Task Manager Application shows Not Responding. Sometimes
if I wait a minute or two, the application finally gets started.

I tried these with IE and they work fine.


Oh yes, disabling add-ons does not solve the problem.
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Re: Long startup times for applications

2014-03-09 Thread Arnie Goetchius
stan pierce wrote:
 stan pierce wrote:
 I've been having trouble for a few weeks. When I invoke things like
 FaceBook and LiveJournal, there is an indication that much information
 is being downloaded before the application actually is ready for use.
 Usually the Task Manager Application shows Not Responding. Sometimes
 if I wait a minute or two, the application finally gets started.

 I tried these with IE and they work fine.
 
 Oh yes, disabling add-ons does not solve the problem.

I have been struggling with this issue for nearly a month.

1. It is only a problem on my XP SP3 machines which also have less
memory and slower cpu. I have no problem on newer, faster machines
running Win 7.

2. On Facebook, the problem does not exist if I am on my Timeline. I
only see it on the Newsfeed when the bottom of the screen shows
continually loading data from somewhere like akamailhd.net (sp?). This
goes on forever on the XP machines but stops almost immediately on Win
7. On the XP machine, Task Manager shows SM using 90-95 % of the CPU so
everything grinds to a very slow pace.

3. I have limited success using IE Tab which lets your browser emulate
the IE browser. This is an improvement but still not anywhere near as
good as using IE or Google Chrome directly.

4. I have tried using a brand new Test profile using the SM defaults,
disabled all add-ons, starting in Safe mode. Nothing helps on my XP
computers. As I said earlier, there is no problem on my Win 7 machines.
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Re: Long startup times for applications

2014-03-09 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Arnie Goetchius wrote:


I have been struggling with this issue for nearly a month.

1. It is only a problem on my XP SP3 machines which also have less
memory and slower cpu. I have no problem on newer, faster machines
running Win 7.


http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/03/08/millions-of-computer-may-be-at-risk-of-attack-next-month/

Think about it.

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Re: Long startup times for applications

2014-03-09 Thread Paul

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Arnie Goetchius wrote:


I have been struggling with this issue for nearly a month.

1. It is only a problem on my XP SP3 machines which also have less
memory and slower cpu. I have no problem on newer, faster machines
running Win 7.


http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/03/08/millions-of-computer-may-be-at-risk-of-attack-next-month/ 



Think about it.


Amusing article.
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Re: Long startup times for applications

2014-03-09 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Paul wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Arnie Goetchius wrote:


I have been struggling with this issue for nearly a month.

1. It is only a problem on my XP SP3 machines which also have less
memory and slower cpu. I have no problem on newer, faster machines
running Win 7.


http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2014/03/08/millions-of-computer-may-be-at-risk-of-attack-next-month/


Think about it.


Amusing article.


Whatever you think of the rest, the main point -- that XP users should 
seriously consider moving on after 12 years -- still stands.


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