Re: Is SM a dying product?
On 9 ene, 17:36, Devils_Advocate devils_advoc...@devils_.xxx wrote: Sigo recibiendo las páginas en blanco en varios sitios utilizando Firefox, entonces tiene que abrir Internet Explorer o Firefox y probar de nuevo. SM es un producto de morir que debo dejar de usar ya? try refresh page or string agent in about:config ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is SM a dying product?
Martin Freitag prof_nosp...@quantentunnel.de wrote : I'd love to, but there's no way of migrating to it from 1.1.18 SM migrates your profile after install on first startup. If t doesn't try to start migration manually: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey regards Martin BTDT; been there done that, hasnt worked. Didn't work on the first try either. The authors should address this problem, I bet there are a bunch of people like myself who are holding off until it gets solved. Especially passwords. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is SM a dying product?
Devils_Advocate schrieb: Robert Kaiserka...@kairo.at wrote : Devils_Advocate schrieb: Is SM a dying product that I should just quit using already? SeaMonkey 2.x is well-alive and should work well with most websites out there, I very rarely have any problems. SeaMonkey 1.x is mostly dead though and if you are still using those versions, you probably should switch to 2.0 soon. Robert Kaiser I'd love to, but there's no way of migrating to it from 1.1.18 SM migrates your profile after install on first startup. If t doesn't try to start migration manually: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey regards Martin -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - http://www.asciiribbon.org/index-de.html ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is SM a dying product?
Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote : Devils_Advocate schrieb: Is SM a dying product that I should just quit using already? SeaMonkey 2.x is well-alive and should work well with most websites out there, I very rarely have any problems. SeaMonkey 1.x is mostly dead though and if you are still using those versions, you probably should switch to 2.0 soon. Robert Kaiser I'd love to, but there's no way of migrating to it from 1.1.18 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is SM a dying product?
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: JeffM wrote: Devils_Advocate wrote: I keep getting blank pages at various sites when using Seamonkey, then I have to open Internet Explorer or Firefox and try it again. I note that you didn't give an example URL. There are a lot of bozos who are putting up Web pages but who have NO IDEA what they are doing. The next time you encounter this situation, go to this page: http://validator.w3.org/ Feed in the URL of the page with problems. You should see something like this http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.debian.org/ **Passed** and not like this http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8 3134 Errors At that point, you will know where to place the blame. Of course, some reported errors are just plain silly: Line 9, Column 47: Attribute BORDER is not a valid attribute. Did you mean border? (from a frameset declaration) XHTML requires all tag names and attributes to be lowercase. HTML does not. This only reinforces that the site serves fake XHTML. As it happens, the page I fed it was plain vanilla HTML, but contained no doctype declaration. It runs fine because browsers don't care. It runs fine because web browsers have a quirks mode. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is SM a dying product?
Interviewed by CNN on 12/1/2010 01:43, Paul B. Gallagher told the world: Of course, some reported errors are just plain silly: Line 9, Column 47: Attribute BORDER is not a valid attribute. Did you mean border? (from a frameset declaration) Well, I didn't see the original page, but this is not a silly error in XHTML. XHTML is case-sensitive, after all. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... BOFH excuse #108: The air conditioning water supply pipe ruptured over the machine room *Added by TagZilla 0.0661 running on Seamonkey 2.0.2 * http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is SM a dying product?
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 12/1/2010 01:43, Paul B. Gallagher told the world: Of course, some reported errors are just plain silly: Line 9, Column 47: Attribute BORDER is not a valid attribute. Did you mean border? (from a frameset declaration) Well, I didn't see the original page, but this is not a silly error in XHTML. XHTML is case-sensitive, after all. i agree, the silly error is that so many have the XHTML DTD for their pages with no need for it, and the content-type is text/html. -- /Arne ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is SM a dying product?
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: JeffM wrote: Devils_Advocate wrote: I keep getting blank pages at various sites when using Seamonkey, then I have to open Internet Explorer or Firefox and try it again. I note that you didn't give an example URL. There are a lot of bozos who are putting up Web pages but who have NO IDEA what they are doing. The next time you encounter this situation, go to this page: http://validator.w3.org/ Feed in the URL of the page with problems. You should see something like this http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.debian.org/ **Passed** and not like this http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8 3134 Errors At that point, you will know where to place the blame. Of course, some reported errors are just plain silly: Line 9, Column 47: Attribute BORDER is not a valid attribute. Did you mean border? (from a frameset declaration) XHTML requires all tag names and attributes to be lowercase. HTML does not. This only reinforces that the site serves fake XHTML. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is SM a dying product?
Benoit Renard wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: JeffM wrote: Devils_Advocate wrote: I keep getting blank pages at various sites when using Seamonkey, then I have to open Internet Explorer or Firefox and try it again. I note that you didn't give an example URL. There are a lot of bozos who are putting up Web pages but who have NO IDEA what they are doing. The next time you encounter this situation, go to this page: http://validator.w3.org/ Feed in the URL of the page with problems. You should see something like this http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.debian.org/ **Passed** and not like this http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8 3134 Errors At that point, you will know where to place the blame. Of course, some reported errors are just plain silly: Line 9, Column 47: Attribute BORDER is not a valid attribute. Did you mean border? (from a frameset declaration) XHTML requires all tag names and attributes to be lowercase. HTML does not. This only reinforces that the site serves fake XHTML. As it happens, the page I fed it was plain vanilla HTML, but contained no doctype declaration. It runs fine because browsers don't care. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is SM a dying product?
JeffM wrote: Devils_Advocate wrote: I keep getting blank pages at various sites when using Seamonkey, then I have to open Internet Explorer or Firefox and try it again. I note that you didn't give an example URL. There are a lot of bozos who are putting up Web pages but who have NO IDEA what they are doing. The next time you encounter this situation, go to this page: http://validator.w3.org/ Feed in the URL of the page with problems. You should see something like this http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.debian.org/ **Passed** and not like this http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8 3134 Errors At that point, you will know where to place the blame. Of course, some reported errors are just plain silly: Line 9, Column 47: Attribute BORDER is not a valid attribute. Did you mean border? (from a frameset declaration) -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is SM a dying product?
NoOp wrote: On 01/09/2010 04:41 PM, Devils_Advocate wrote: JeffM jef...@email.com wrote : Devils_Advocate wrote: I keep getting blank pages at various sites when using Seamonkey, then I have to open Internet Explorer or Firefox and try it again. I note that you didn't give an example URL. http://www.efax.com/help/faq Turn on cookies works for me: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8pre) Gecko/20100106 Lightning/1.0b1 SeaMonkey/2.0.3pre Without cookies, the page comes up blank except for the basiceFax edge left English | United States [ Change ] Sign Up ProductsPricing Promotions Enterprise Contact Us My Account Who knew? I mean, if we weren't techies, would we have a clue what was wrong? Sites that require cookies without bothering to tell you or provide alternate content are among my pet peeves. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is SM a dying product?
David E. Ross wrote: On 1/9/2010 5:58 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 1/9/2010 5:55 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 1/9/2010 4:41 PM, Devils_Advocate wrote: JeffMjef...@email.com wrote : Devils_Advocate wrote: I keep getting blank pages at various sites when using Seamonkey, then I have to open Internet Explorer or Firefox and try it again. I note that you didn't give an example URL. http://www.efax.com/help/faq There are a lot of bozos who are putting up Web pages but who have NO IDEA what they are doing. The next time you encounter this situation, go to this page: http://validator.w3.org/ Feed in the URL of the page with problems. You should see something like this http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.debian.org/ **Passed** and not like this http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://marketshare.hitslink.com/oper ating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8 3134 Errors At that point, you will know where to place the blame. 26 XHTML errors, 6 CSS errors I get a mostly blank page. There is a logo in the top-left corner, the text English | United States[ Change ] in the top-right corner, and three lines of pale grey text at the bottom. If I accept images from all servers, I also get a navigation bar running across the page near the top; but I normally browse with my preference set to allow only images from the current page's server. By the way, I don't think this is a sniffing problem because I got the same result while spoofing Firefox 3.5.6. Oops! It is a sniffing problem. I get a To enter portal, click here line (with a link) when I spoof IE 7. Selecting that link gives me the FAQ. David, NoOp has suggested this site needs cookies turned on. I have my cookies set for sessional cookies and this site WFM! -- Seasons greeting, one and all and may this year be a better one! Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is SM a dying product?
Daniel wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 1/9/2010 5:58 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 1/9/2010 5:55 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 1/9/2010 4:41 PM, Devils_Advocate wrote: JeffMjef...@email.comwrote : Devils_Advocate wrote: I keep getting blank pages at various sites when using Seamonkey, then I have to open Internet Explorer or Firefox and try it again. I note that you didn't give an example URL. http://www.efax.com/help/faq There are a lot of bozos who are putting up Web pages but who have NO IDEA what they are doing. The next time you encounter this situation, go to this page: http://validator.w3.org/ Feed in the URL of the page with problems. You should see something like this http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.debian.org/ **Passed** and not like this http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://marketshare.hitslink.com/oper ating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8 3134 Errors At that point, you will know where to place the blame. 26 XHTML errors, 6 CSS errors I get a mostly blank page. There is a logo in the top-left corner, the text English | United States[ Change ] in the top-right corner, and three lines of pale grey text at the bottom. If I accept images from all servers, I also get a navigation bar running across the page near the top; but I normally browse with my preference set to allow only images from the current page's server. By the way, I don't think this is a sniffing problem because I got the same result while spoofing Firefox 3.5.6. Oops! It is a sniffing problem. I get a To enter portal, click here line (with a link) when I spoof IE 7. Selecting that link gives me the FAQ. David, NoOp has suggested this site needs cookies turned on. I have my cookies set for sessional cookies and this site WFM! Have set use default cookie permissions seems to work for me. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is SM a dying product?
Phillip Jones wrote: [...]sites[...]that use[ActiveX]. Yup. Site owners who insist on using junk that only *some* folks have is another case of stupidity that surfers have to deal with. Webmaster who don't know how to sniff for browsers properly has also been mentioned. Folks who go to stupid people's sites, have to get to be smarter than those stupid people. Devils_Advocate wrote: I've run into a Bunch [of sites] that don't show up right because they are not written correctly. Martin's link in news:hice6n$a6...@news.albasani.net is the starting point. Most stupid webmasters don't even realize how stupid they are. Where does that leave me though? Reading the FAQ / Release Notes for something you use is a good practice: http://google.com/search?q=cache:QTkuBlNz5d8J:www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0b1+via+via+*-*-a-new-profile+Troubleshooting+via+via+Safe.Mode#troubleshooting http://tinyurl.com/VisitingBrokenWebsites http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0b1/ The other part of Martin's post adds a useful detail to that. Sure you may be technically right, but how can I use a browser that gives me so many blank pages? Start by making sure it's not YOU whose preferences bork things. NoOp has given a solution that has been echoed and confirmed multiple times in this thread. news:gcwdnsv6d7dountwnz2dnuvz_jji4...@mozilla.org Again, a *smart* webmaster / site builder would give you AN ERROR MESSAGE stating what is needed. :Is SM a dying product? : No, but the number of folks who understand HOW MANY ways a webmaster can screw up a web site has always been a tiny proportion of users. ...and if a site owner has built a site in a way that it will ONLY work with ONE browser and he ISN'T listening to complaints to his email, the obvious solution is to surrender to his stupidity and use the browser he prefers. Welcome to 1997. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is SM a dying product?
JeffM wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: [...]sites[...]that use[ActiveX]. Yup. Site owners who insist on using junk that only *some* folks have is another case of stupidity that surfers have to deal with. Webmaster who don't know how to sniff for browsers properly has also been mentioned. Folks who go to stupid people's sites, have to get to be smarter than those stupid people. Devils_Advocate wrote: I've run into a Bunch [of sites] that don't show up right because they are not written correctly. Martin's link in news:hice6n$a6...@news.albasani.net is the starting point. Most stupid webmasters don't even realize how stupid they are. Where does that leave me though? Reading the FAQ / Release Notes for something you use is a good practice: http://google.com/search?q=cache:QTkuBlNz5d8J:www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0b1+via+via+*-*-a-new-profile+Troubleshooting+via+via+Safe.Mode#troubleshooting http://tinyurl.com/VisitingBrokenWebsites http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0b1/ The other part of Martin's post adds a useful detail to that. Sure you may be technically right, but how can I use a browser that gives me so many blank pages? Start by making sure it's not YOU whose preferences bork things. NoOp has given a solution that has been echoed and confirmed multiple times in this thread. news:gcwdnsv6d7dountwnz2dnuvz_jji4...@mozilla.org Again, a *smart* webmaster / site builder would give you AN ERROR MESSAGE stating what is needed. :Is SM a dying product? : No, but the number of folks who understand HOW MANY ways a webmaster can screw up a web site has always been a tiny proportion of users. ...and if a site owner has built a site in a way that it will ONLY work with ONE browser and he ISN'T listening to complaints to his email, the obvious solution is to surrender to his stupidity and use the browser he prefers. Welcome to 1997. I've continually updated my website from time to to time. although the content itself may seem childish, hokey, or stupid, to most here (its mostly a website about my family tree and family) I've finally (I think) have got it so that it passes w3C standards for XHTML 1.0 Transitional with out any errors. So it should show up on any browser and look relatively the same. I have two instances in which I use embed tags for the same Flash Slide Show on two pages. I use DreamWeaver 8. and would like to figure out a method to do this instead of using embed. But other than those two instances it 100 compatible with XHTML 1.0 Transitional. http://www.phillipmjones.net -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is SM a dying product?
Devils_Advocate wrote: I keep getting blank pages at various sites when using Seamonkey, then I have to open Internet Explorer or Firefox and try it again. Is SM a dying product that I should just quit using already? No. It's an excellent product that's too advanced for some putzy sites. -- -Rinaldi- Machine-Independent, adj.: Does not run on any existing machine. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is SM a dying product?
Devils_Advocate wrote: I keep getting blank pages at various sites when using Seamonkey, then I have to open Internet Explorer or Firefox and try it again. I note that you didn't give an example URL. There are a lot of bozos who are putting up Web pages but who have NO IDEA what they are doing. The next time you encounter this situation, go to this page: http://validator.w3.org/ Feed in the URL of the page with problems. You should see something like this http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.debian.org/ **Passed** and not like this http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8 3134 Errors At that point, you will know where to place the blame. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is SM a dying product?
Rinaldi J. Montessi rina...@senior.envision wrote : Devils_Advocate wrote: I keep getting blank pages at various sites when using Seamonkey, then I have to open Internet Explorer or Firefox and try it again. Is SM a dying product that I should just quit using already? No. It's an excellent product that's too advanced for some putzy sites. If it cant read a lot of sites, it wont matter. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is SM a dying product?
Devils_Advocate wrote: I keep getting blank pages at various sites when using Seamonkey, then I have to open Internet Explorer or Firefox and try it again. Is SM a dying product that I should just quit using already? How about a couple of links to the pages that come up blank? -- JD.. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is SM a dying product?
JeffM jef...@email.com wrote : Devils_Advocate wrote: I keep getting blank pages at various sites when using Seamonkey, then I have to open Internet Explorer or Firefox and try it again. I note that you didn't give an example URL. http://www.efax.com/help/faq There are a lot of bozos who are putting up Web pages but who have NO IDEA what they are doing. The next time you encounter this situation, go to this page: http://validator.w3.org/ Feed in the URL of the page with problems. You should see something like this http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.debian.org/ **Passed** and not like this http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://marketshare.hitslink.com/oper ating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8 3134 Errors At that point, you will know where to place the blame. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is SM a dying product?
On 01/09/2010 04:41 PM, Devils_Advocate wrote: JeffM jef...@email.com wrote : Devils_Advocate wrote: I keep getting blank pages at various sites when using Seamonkey, then I have to open Internet Explorer or Firefox and try it again. I note that you didn't give an example URL. http://www.efax.com/help/faq Turn on cookies works for me: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8pre) Gecko/20100106 Lightning/1.0b1 SeaMonkey/2.0.3pre Without cookies, the page comes up blank except for the basiceFax edge left English | United States [ Change ] Sign Up ProductsPricing Promotions Enterprise Contact Us My Account ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is SM a dying product?
Devils_Advocate wrote: JeffMjef...@email.com wrote : Devils_Advocate wrote: I keep getting blank pages at various sites when using Seamonkey, then I have to open Internet Explorer or Firefox and try it again. I note that you didn't give an example URL. http://www.efax.com/help/faq There are a lot of bozos who are putting up Web pages but who have NO IDEA what they are doing. The next time you encounter this situation, go to this page: http://validator.w3.org/ Feed in the URL of the page with problems. You should see something like this http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.debian.org/ **Passed** and not like this http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://marketshare.hitslink.com/oper ating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8 3134 Errors At that point, you will know where to place the blame. The EFax site is working fine from here. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is SM a dying product?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Devils_Advocate wrote: JeffM jef...@email.com wrote : Devils_Advocate wrote: I keep getting blank pages at various sites when using Seamonkey, then I have to open Internet Explorer or Firefox and try it again. I note that you didn't give an example URL. http://www.efax.com/help/faq There are a lot of bozos who are putting up Web pages but who have NO IDEA what they are doing. The next time you encounter this situation, go to this page: http://validator.w3.org/ Feed in the URL of the page with problems. You should see something like this http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.debian.org/ **Passed** and not like this http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://marketshare.hitslink.com/oper ating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8 3134 Errors At that point, you will know where to place the blame. efax.com come up fine for m. Bill -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAktJKiwACgkQZKy5BF5T3OFpMgCgu/3sXCk08/UPR/ShHDqYvvdq FYIAoLem3CslQgrGoouG6HmH9NnmFFsR =03Vg -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Interviewed by CNN on 9/1/2010 22:41, Devils_Advocate told the world: http://www.efax.com/help/faq Funny, I could get into the site with no problem. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... BOFH excuse #248: Too much radiation coming from the soil. * TagZilla 0.0661 * http://tagzilla.mozdev.org on Seamonkey 2.0 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is SM a dying product?
On 1/9/2010 4:41 PM, Devils_Advocate wrote: JeffM jef...@email.com wrote : Devils_Advocate wrote: I keep getting blank pages at various sites when using Seamonkey, then I have to open Internet Explorer or Firefox and try it again. I note that you didn't give an example URL. http://www.efax.com/help/faq There are a lot of bozos who are putting up Web pages but who have NO IDEA what they are doing. The next time you encounter this situation, go to this page: http://validator.w3.org/ Feed in the URL of the page with problems. You should see something like this http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.debian.org/ **Passed** and not like this http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://marketshare.hitslink.com/oper ating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8 3134 Errors At that point, you will know where to place the blame. 26 XHTML errors, 6 CSS errors I get a mostly blank page. There is a logo in the top-left corner, the text English | United States [ Change ] in the top-right corner, and three lines of pale grey text at the bottom. If I accept images from all servers, I also get a navigation bar running across the page near the top; but I normally browse with my preference set to allow only images from the current page's server. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is SM a dying product?
On 1/9/2010 5:55 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 1/9/2010 4:41 PM, Devils_Advocate wrote: JeffM jef...@email.com wrote : Devils_Advocate wrote: I keep getting blank pages at various sites when using Seamonkey, then I have to open Internet Explorer or Firefox and try it again. I note that you didn't give an example URL. http://www.efax.com/help/faq There are a lot of bozos who are putting up Web pages but who have NO IDEA what they are doing. The next time you encounter this situation, go to this page: http://validator.w3.org/ Feed in the URL of the page with problems. You should see something like this http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.debian.org/ **Passed** and not like this http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://marketshare.hitslink.com/oper ating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8 3134 Errors At that point, you will know where to place the blame. 26 XHTML errors, 6 CSS errors I get a mostly blank page. There is a logo in the top-left corner, the text English | United States [ Change ] in the top-right corner, and three lines of pale grey text at the bottom. If I accept images from all servers, I also get a navigation bar running across the page near the top; but I normally browse with my preference set to allow only images from the current page's server. By the way, I don't think this is a sniffing problem because I got the same result while spoofing Firefox 3.5.6. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is SM a dying product?
On 1/9/2010 5:58 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 1/9/2010 5:55 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 1/9/2010 4:41 PM, Devils_Advocate wrote: JeffM jef...@email.com wrote : Devils_Advocate wrote: I keep getting blank pages at various sites when using Seamonkey, then I have to open Internet Explorer or Firefox and try it again. I note that you didn't give an example URL. http://www.efax.com/help/faq There are a lot of bozos who are putting up Web pages but who have NO IDEA what they are doing. The next time you encounter this situation, go to this page: http://validator.w3.org/ Feed in the URL of the page with problems. You should see something like this http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.debian.org/ **Passed** and not like this http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://marketshare.hitslink.com/oper ating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8 3134 Errors At that point, you will know where to place the blame. 26 XHTML errors, 6 CSS errors I get a mostly blank page. There is a logo in the top-left corner, the text English | United States [ Change ] in the top-right corner, and three lines of pale grey text at the bottom. If I accept images from all servers, I also get a navigation bar running across the page near the top; but I normally browse with my preference set to allow only images from the current page's server. By the way, I don't think this is a sniffing problem because I got the same result while spoofing Firefox 3.5.6. Oops! It is a sniffing problem. I get a To enter portal, click here line (with a link) when I spoof IE 7. Selecting that link gives me the FAQ. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other Mozilla-related applications. You can access Mozdev much more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is SM a dying product?
Devils_Advocate wrote: Rinaldi J. Montessirina...@senior.envision wrote : Devils_Advocate wrote: I keep getting blank pages at various sites when using Seamonkey, then I have to open Internet Explorer or Firefox and try it again. Is SM a dying product that I should just quit using already? No. It's an excellent product that's too advanced for some putzy sites. If it cant read a lot of sites, it wont matter. Give a sample The only sites I can't get into (on Mac) are ones that use Active-X Even if SM Mac was setup for active -X Apple doesn't or won't allow it . they deem it too dangerous. I've run into a Bunch that don't show up right because they are not written correctly. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is SM a dying product?
Devils_Advocate wrote: JeffMjef...@email.com wrote : Devils_Advocate wrote: I keep getting blank pages at various sites when using Seamonkey, then I have to open Internet Explorer or Firefox and try it again. I note that you didn't give an example URL. http://www.efax.com/help/faq came up fine for me, of course it had 209 warnings There are a lot of bozos who are putting up Web pages but who have NO IDEA what they are doing. The next time you encounter this situation, go to this page: http://validator.w3.org/ Feed in the URL of the page with problems. You should see something like this http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.debian.org/ **Passed** and not like this http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://marketshare.hitslink.com/oper ating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8 3134 Errors At that point, you will know where to place the blame. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is SM a dying product?
On or about 1/9/2010 8:01 PM, Leonidas Jones typed the following: Devils_Advocate wrote: JeffMjef...@email.com wrote : Devils_Advocate wrote: I keep getting blank pages at various sites when using Seamonkey, then I have to open Internet Explorer or Firefox and try it again. I note that you didn't give an example URL. http://www.efax.com/help/faq There are a lot of bozos who are putting up Web pages but who have NO IDEA what they are doing. The next time you encounter this situation, go to this page: http://validator.w3.org/ Feed in the URL of the page with problems. You should see something like this http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.debian.org/ **Passed** and not like this http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://marketshare.hitslink.com/oper ating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8 3134 Errors At that point, you will know where to place the blame. The EFax site is working fine from here. Lee Hmm - only getting the top line - rest of the page is blank (or white on white). W3C shows errors - http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.efax.com%2Fhelp%2Ffaqcharset=(detect+automatically)doctype=Inlinegroup=0 -- Ed http://mysite.verizon.net/vze1zhwu Corduroy pillows are making headlines. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is SM a dying product?
Devils_Advocate wrote: JeffM jef...@email.com wrote : Devils_Advocate wrote: I keep getting blank pages at various sites when using Seamonkey, then I have to open Internet Explorer or Firefox and try it again. I note that you didn't give an example URL. http://www.efax.com/help/faq Works good for me. 1117 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is SM a dying product?
On 01/09/2010 07:03 PM, BeeNeR wrote: .. Hmm - only getting the top line - rest of the page is blank (or white on And are do you have cookies turned on? The site has nothing to do with browser sniffing etc. It works just fine in SeaMonkey (1.1.18, 2.0.1, 2.0.3pre etc). But it will not display the remainder of the site if you do not have cookies turned on. Capiche? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
