Re: This Connection is Untrusted

[bbeau1126]

On Saturday, February 17, 2018 at 7:42:13 AM UTC+8, Smiles wrote:
> I keep getting this warning but can not choose to accept the error and 
> go forward
> 
> can anyone advise
> thanks

Uninstall browser and reinstall stable version
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Re: This Connection is Untrusted

[Roger Fink]

On 2/18/2018 3:36 PM, Roger Fink wrote:

On 2/18/2018 3:05 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/18/2018 11:56 AM, Roger Fink wrote:

On 2/16/2018 6:42 PM, Smiles wrote:

I keep getting this warning but can not choose to accept the error and
go forward

can anyone advise
thanks


Regarding the warning, same problem here on about half the sites I have
bookmarked. "Technical Details" in most but not all cases displays an
option to override, but does not always give you a good result.

I think the anti-virus program you are using may have something to do
with this. I was using Avast with 2.49 and things were fine. The problem
only appeared after I changed to Kaspersky.

OT: IMO Kaspersky is a breath of fresh air compared to Avast and I
intend to keep using it.


 "Secure Connection"
Kaspersky had (or still has?) a problem relative to Web sites that are
secured.  This has been widely noted in news Web sites and in other
newsgroups.



Hi David. I just fixed this. Perhaps fixed belongs in quotes. Apparently
Kaspersky overheard you. Kaspersky has a user installable feature called
"Secure Connection" that has its own uninstaller in the control panel. I
didn't uninstall it but you can go into the settings and disable it,
which I did, and now things are normal. It is a mystery why it affects
SeaMonkey so heavily and it would be nice to keep it active in the other
browsers, but that's not currently possible. It does make one wonder
what the protection level against this threat is in Kaspersky compared
to other browsers that don't advertise it as a feature.


".in Kaspersky compared to other A/V PROGRAMS that"



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Re: This Connection is Untrusted

[Roger Fink]

On 2/18/2018 3:05 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/18/2018 11:56 AM, Roger Fink wrote:

On 2/16/2018 6:42 PM, Smiles wrote:

I keep getting this warning but can not choose to accept the error and
go forward

can anyone advise
thanks


Regarding the warning, same problem here on about half the sites I have
bookmarked. "Technical Details" in most but not all cases displays an
option to override, but does not always give you a good result.

I think the anti-virus program you are using may have something to do
with this. I was using Avast with 2.49 and things were fine. The problem
only appeared after I changed to Kaspersky.

OT: IMO Kaspersky is a breath of fresh air compared to Avast and I
intend to keep using it.


 "Secure Connection"
Kaspersky had (or still has?) a problem relative to Web sites that are
secured.  This has been widely noted in news Web sites and in other
newsgroups.



Hi David. I just fixed this. Perhaps fixed belongs in quotes. Apparently 
Kaspersky overheard you. Kaspersky has a user installable feature called 
"Secure Connection" that has its own uninstaller in the control panel. I 
didn't uninstall it but you can go into the settings and disable it, 
which I did, and now things are normal. It is a mystery why it affects 
SeaMonkey so heavily and it would be nice to keep it active in the other 
browsers, but that's not currently possible. It does make one wonder 
what the protection level against this threat is in Kaspersky compared 
to other browsers that don't advertise it as a feature.





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Re: This Connection is Untrusted

[David E. Ross]

On 2/18/2018 11:56 AM, Roger Fink wrote:
> On 2/16/2018 6:42 PM, Smiles wrote:
>> I keep getting this warning but can not choose to accept the error and
>> go forward
>>
>> can anyone advise
>> thanks
> 
> Regarding the warning, same problem here on about half the sites I have 
> bookmarked. "Technical Details" in most but not all cases displays an 
> option to override, but does not always give you a good result.
> 
> I think the anti-virus program you are using may have something to do 
> with this. I was using Avast with 2.49 and things were fine. The problem 
> only appeared after I changed to Kaspersky.
> 
> OT: IMO Kaspersky is a breath of fresh air compared to Avast and I 
> intend to keep using it.
> 

Kaspersky had (or still has?) a problem relative to Web sites that are
secured.  This has been widely noted in news Web sites and in other
newsgroups.

-- 
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Re: This Connection is Untrusted

[Roger Fink]

On 2/16/2018 6:42 PM, Smiles wrote:

I keep getting this warning but can not choose to accept the error and
go forward

can anyone advise
thanks


Regarding the warning, same problem here on about half the sites I have 
bookmarked. "Technical Details" in most but not all cases displays an 
option to override, but does not always give you a good result.


I think the anti-virus program you are using may have something to do 
with this. I was using Avast with 2.49 and things were fine. The problem 
only appeared after I changed to Kaspersky.


OT: IMO Kaspersky is a breath of fresh air compared to Avast and I 
intend to keep using it.


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Re: This Connection is Untrusted

[Smiles]

ok on checking my other profile
I see only a period on the right side which when clicked says untrusted 
site no pad lock

I see no certificate manager

using 2.48 on win7

Smiles wrote:

thank you David

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/16/2018 3:42 PM, Smiles wrote:

I keep getting this warning but can not choose to accept the error and
go forward

can anyone advise
thanks



When I get this -- and I am sure the Web site is safe -- I use the
Certificate Manager to establish an exception by downloading the site
certificate.  Sometimes, I do this only for the current session; other
times, I mark it to be saved.

To get the Certificate Manager, right-click on the padlock near the
right end of the status bar at the bottom of the SeaMonkey window.  To
make an exception, select the Servers tab on the Certificate Manager
window.


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Re: This Connection is Untrusted

[Smiles]

thank you David

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/16/2018 3:42 PM, Smiles wrote:

I keep getting this warning but can not choose to accept the error and
go forward

can anyone advise
thanks



When I get this -- and I am sure the Web site is safe -- I use the
Certificate Manager to establish an exception by downloading the site
certificate.  Sometimes, I do this only for the current session; other
times, I mark it to be saved.

To get the Certificate Manager, right-click on the padlock near the
right end of the status bar at the bottom of the SeaMonkey window.  To
make an exception, select the Servers tab on the Certificate Manager
window.


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Re: This Connection is Untrusted

[David E. Ross]

On 2/16/2018 3:42 PM, Smiles wrote:
> I keep getting this warning but can not choose to accept the error and 
> go forward
> 
> can anyone advise
> thanks
> 

When I get this -- and I am sure the Web site is safe -- I use the
Certificate Manager to establish an exception by downloading the site
certificate.  Sometimes, I do this only for the current session; other
times, I mark it to be saved.

To get the Certificate Manager, right-click on the padlock near the
right end of the status bar at the bottom of the SeaMonkey window.  To
make an exception, select the Servers tab on the Certificate Manager
window.

-- 
David E. Ross


President Trump:  Please stop using Twitter.  We need
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Re: "This connection is untrusted"

[MNeeks]

On Saturday, January 28, 2017 at 12:26:04 PM UTC-5, Richmond wrote:
> MNeeks  writes:
> 
> >> What virus scanner are you using? Maybe it installed a certificate
> >> for Firefox only and is snooping on the network traffic.
> >> 
> >> FRG
> >> 
> > I have Kaspersky and interestingly enough, just discovered that if I
> > pause protection SeaMonkey will load my normal websites with no
> > errors. Hmmm.
> 
> It might be worth checking some fingerprints to make sure there is no
> snooping.
> 
> https://www.grc.com/fingerprints.htm

I don't know what fingerprints are - and am a little afraid to go clicking on 
things...with all the craziness out there today. Thank you so much tho, the 
answer by Lem fixed the problem. Wow you guys are awesome for all the help!
Neeks
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Re: "This connection is untrusted"

[MNeeks]

On Saturday, January 28, 2017 at 1:48:47 PM UTC-5, Lemuel Johnson wrote:
> On 1/28/2017 10:57 AM, MNeeks wrote:
> >
> >> What virus scanner are you using? Maybe it installed a certificate for 
> >> Firefox
> >> only and is snooping on the network traffic.
> >>
> >> FRG
> >>
> > I have Kaspersky and interestingly enough, just discovered that if I pause 
> > protection SeaMonkey will load my normal websites with no errors. Hmmm.
> >
> When Kaspersky self-updates it doesn't reinstall its security certificate.
> 
> In SeaMonkey Preferences please go to Privacy & Security -> Certificates 
> -> Manage Certificates. Click the Authorities tab.
> There import (this is my Win 7 path, your path may be different):
> C:\ProgramData\Kaspersky Lab\AVP17.0.0\Data\Cert\(fake)Kaspersky 
> Anti-Virus Personal Root Certificate.cer
> 
> Lem Johnson

Thank you so much! That took care of the problem so quickly.  Thanks again!
Neeks
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Re: "This connection is untrusted"

[Lemuel Johnson]

On 1/28/2017 10:57 AM, MNeeks wrote:



What virus scanner are you using? Maybe it installed a certificate for Firefox
only and is snooping on the network traffic.

FRG


I have Kaspersky and interestingly enough, just discovered that if I pause 
protection SeaMonkey will load my normal websites with no errors. Hmmm.


When Kaspersky self-updates it doesn't reinstall its security certificate.

In SeaMonkey Preferences please go to Privacy & Security -> Certificates 
-> Manage Certificates. Click the Authorities tab.

There import (this is my Win 7 path, your path may be different):
C:\ProgramData\Kaspersky Lab\AVP17.0.0\Data\Cert\(fake)Kaspersky 
Anti-Virus Personal Root Certificate.cer


Lem Johnson
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Re: "This connection is untrusted"

[Lee]

On 1/28/17, Richmond  wrote:
> MNeeks  writes:
>
>>> What virus scanner are you using? Maybe it installed a certificate
>>> for Firefox only and is snooping on the network traffic.
>>>
>>> FRG
>>>
>> I have Kaspersky and interestingly enough, just discovered that if I
>> pause protection SeaMonkey will load my normal websites with no
>> errors. Hmmm.
>
> It might be worth checking some fingerprints to make sure there is no
> snooping.

Is there an easy way to compare the certificate store from FF & SM?

> https://www.grc.com/fingerprints.htm

  "Web browsers trust the identity assertion made by a remote web
   site when that site presents a certification of its identity that has
   been signed by a higher authority that the browser already trusts."

I used to work at a place that installed their own CA cert in the
Firefox certificate store so they could do 'data loss protection' (ie.
look at _everything_)  Firefox would happily accept the certs they
served up but SeaMonkey would complain about everything.

Lee
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Re: "This connection is untrusted"

[Richmond]

MNeeks  writes:

>> What virus scanner are you using? Maybe it installed a certificate
>> for Firefox only and is snooping on the network traffic.
>> 
>> FRG
>> 
> I have Kaspersky and interestingly enough, just discovered that if I
> pause protection SeaMonkey will load my normal websites with no
> errors. Hmmm.

It might be worth checking some fingerprints to make sure there is no
snooping.

https://www.grc.com/fingerprints.htm
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Re: "This connection is untrusted"

[MNeeks]

> What virus scanner are you using? Maybe it installed a certificate for 
> Firefox 
> only and is snooping on the network traffic.
> 
> FRG
> 
I have Kaspersky and interestingly enough, just discovered that if I pause 
protection SeaMonkey will load my normal websites with no errors. Hmmm. 

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Re: "This connection is untrusted"

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

What virus scanner are you using? Maybe it installed a certificate for Firefox 
only and is snooping on the network traffic.


FRG

MNeeks wrote:

"This Connection is Untrusted" message only comes up in SeaMonkey, not on 
Firefox. All of a sudden I can't use SeaMonkey anymore to browse and it is my all time 
favorite browser.
The only thing that will load is the home page (yahoo.com)I have set up. I am 
running the newest SeaMonkey download and my OS is Windows 10 Home on my Lenovo 
Ideapad. Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong? Thanks for any help.
Neeks



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Re: This connection is untrusted

[Paul B. Gallagher]

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:


Without that information, I can't be sure, but my first suspicion is
that the your new computer doesn't have the right date set, so
SeaMonkey thinks the certificates have expired or are not yet valid.
Make sure the date, time and time zone are set correctly -
right-click the clock in the taskbar, select Adjust Date/Time (or
similar); the details vary from one version of Windows to another,
but hopefully it should be fairly clear what to do from there.


His message header contains the following:

X-Received: by 10.140.96.137 with SMTP id k9mr66228qge.10.1435380087335; 
Fri, 26 Jun 2015 21:41:27 -0700 (PDT)

...
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 21:41:27 -0700 (PDT)

The first is set by the receiving mail server (I chose the first 
recipient in the chain of custody), and the second by the sending 
computer. Since they match and both specify a very recent date/time 
(last night), it seems unlikely that there is a date/time issue. Unless, 
of course, he wasn't sending from the problem computer.


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Re: This connection is untrusted

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:


Without that information, I can't be sure, but my first suspicion is
that the your new computer doesn't have the right date set, so
SeaMonkey thinks the certificates have expired or are not yet valid.
Make sure the date, time and time zone are set correctly -
right-click the clock in the taskbar, select Adjust Date/Time (or
similar); the details vary from one version of Windows to another,
but hopefully it should be fairly clear what to do from there.


His message header contains the following:

X-Received: by 10.140.96.137 with SMTP id k9mr66228qge.10.1435380087335;
Fri, 26 Jun 2015 21:41:27 -0700 (PDT)
...
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 21:41:27 -0700 (PDT)

The first is set by the receiving mail server (I chose the first
recipient in the chain of custody), and the second by the sending
computer. Since they match and both specify a very recent date/time
(last night), it seems unlikely that there is a date/time issue. Unless,
of course, he wasn't sending from the problem computer.


Also in the headers from Rick's message:
User-Agent: G2/1.0
Which I think someone mentioned a few weeks ago means the message was 
posted via Google Groups, so the timestamps in the message are probably 
derived from Google's servers and not the date on his own computer.


And, as you say, there's the possibility he was sending from a computer 
other than the one exhibiting the problem anyway.


Mark.

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Re: This connection is untrusted

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

Rick Daly wrote:

PLEASE! Can someone please help me? A few days ago I installed Seamonkey 2.33 
on a brand new computer. For a couple of days all worked fine. I was able to 
transfer all my bookmarks and passwords and settings from my old computer using 
MozBackup.

Then I started having problems with this This connection is untrusted 
message. It was hit and miss at first, now it stops me from doing virtually anything. I 
even had to add an exception for the Seamonkey Project website.


That message indicates something is up with the digital certificates 
used to set up a secure connection to the website. It's not a good idea 
to add exceptions without understanding what the problem is, 
particularly for important things like your bank.



I can't get into my banks, I can't even get to Youtube. Some strange looking 
screen pops up.

Seamonkey 2.33 is working fine on my older computer. I checked all the 
settings, comparing one to the other and nothing is different. What could have 
happened? I don't want to ditch Seamonkey. It's been my go to browser for 
years. I will NOT use Internet Explorer, and don't really like Chrome or 
anything else I've tried.


Are both computers using the same Internet connection?


Can anyone give me some guidance as to what the hell is going on and how, 
maybe, to fix it?


Click on Technical Details and it should give some more information. 
It may not mean much to you, but copy that text and paste it into a 
reply to this post.


Without that information, I can't be sure, but my first suspicion is 
that the your new computer doesn't have the right date set, so SeaMonkey 
thinks the certificates have expired or are not yet valid. Make sure the 
date, time and time zone are set correctly - right-click the clock in 
the taskbar, select Adjust Date/Time (or similar); the details vary 
from one version of Windows to another, but hopefully it should be 
fairly clear what to do from there.


Mark.

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Re: This Connection is Untrusted

[Daniel]

On 03/05/15 02:31, »Q« wrote:

In news:pacdnzh1qiutttninz2dnuu7-rudn...@mozilla.org,
Daniel dan...@albury.net.spam.au wrote:


On 02/05/15 21:33, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:



Look under Edit  Preferences  Privacy
 Security  Certificates  Manage Certificates  Authorities. For
me, GoDaddy.com, Inc. is listed there, with a root certificate
authority and a secure certificate authority.


At this point, I see I've got a GoDaddy.com, Inc. listing that
includes a Go Daddy Root Certificate Authority - G2 which is listed
as a Software Security Device.

When I highlight that and click View, under the General tab there
is various information


At the top of that General tab, does it say this? :

This certificate has been verified for the following uses:
SSL Certificate Authority

.
No, Q, it does not, it says

Could not verify this certificate because the issuer is unknown.

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20141218225909

or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.33 Build identifier: 20150215202114

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Re: This Connection is Untrusted

[Daniel]

On 03/05/15 02:40, »Q« wrote:

In news:pacdnzh1qiutttninz2dnuu7-rudn...@mozilla.org,
Daniel dan...@albury.net.spam.au wrote:


On 02/05/15 21:33, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Entering godaddy in the search box of the SM data manager gets an
empty Domain field ... do I need something in there??


It probably won't be there. Look under Edit  Preferences  Privacy
 Security  Certificates  Manage Certificates  Authorities. For
me, GoDaddy.com, Inc. is listed there, with a root certificate
authority and a secure certificate authority.


At this point, I see I've got a GoDaddy.com, Inc. listing that
includes a Go Daddy Root Certificate Authority - G2 which is listed
as a Software Security Device.

When I highlight that and click View, under the General tab there
is various information including Organizational Unit (OU) Not Part
Of
Certificate and Serial Number 00 and Period of Validity began on
01/09/09 and expires on 01/01/38 and SHA1 and SHA-256 fingerprints


At the top of that General tab, does it say this? :

This certificate has been verified for the following uses:
SSL Certificate Authority


See my reply to your other post.


On the Details tab, there are many Certificate Fields but all are
empty  including the Validity Not Before and Not After
fields which contained data on the other General tab.


On the Details tab, make sure you're looking in the right place.
Clicking on, e.g., Not Before should cause the field info to appear
well below where the Not Before appears.


Yeap, you're right, when I select one of the Certificate Fields, its 
value appears in the Field Value section of the screen.

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20141218225909

or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.33 Build identifier: 20150215202114

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Re: This Connection is Untrusted

[Daniel]

On 03/05/15 04:44, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 02/05/15 21:33, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Entering godaddy in the search box of the SM data manager gets an
empty Domain field ... do I need something in there??


It probably won't be there. Look under Edit  Preferences  Privacy 
Security  Certificates  Manage Certificates  Authorities. For me,
GoDaddy.com, Inc. is listed there, with a root certificate authority
and a secure certificate authority.


At this point, I see I've got a GoDaddy.com, Inc. listing that includes
a Go Daddy Root Certificate Authority - G2 which is listed as a
Software Security Device.


That's interesting. For me, that one is a Builtin Object Token (a
preinstalled root certificate). The Go Daddy Secure... one is a
Software Security Device type, indicating that it is either a
previously seen intermediate certificate, or a root certificate I've
added myself (I'm pretty sure it's the former in this case).

If you click Edit Trust, are any of the options ticked there? On mine,
it is set to allow identifying web sites, and identifying software makers.

It might be worth installing a release build of SeaMonkey, rather than
your current beta version, to see if that makes any difference? I'm
currently using 2.33.1, which is newer than 2.33b1 anyway. While using
the latest beta is great for getting the latest features (and finding
any problems early), I'm not sure that there's any advantage in using an
outdated beta in preference to a newer release.


When I highlight that and click View, under the General tab there is
various information including Organizational Unit (OU) Not Part Of
Certificate and Serial Number 00 and Period of Validity began on
01/09/09


That all matches the entry in my certificates.


and expires on 01/01/38


Mine shows expires on 31/12/2037, although that's probably because the
timestamp is adjusted for our local timezones.


and SHA1 and SHA-256 fingerprints


Do they match these?
SHA-256: 45:14:0B:32:47:EB:9C:C8:C5:B4:F0:D7:B5:30:91:F7:
  32:92:08:9E:6E:5A:63:E2:74:9D:D3:AC:A9:19:8E:DA


45:14:0B:32:47:EB:9C:C8:C5:B4:F0:D7:B5:30:91:F7:32:92:08:9E:6E:5A:63:E2:74:9D:D3:AC:A9:19:8E:DA


SHA1: 47:BE:AB:C9:22:EA:E8:0E:78:78:34:62:A7:9F:45:C2:54:FD:E6:8B


47:BE:AB:C9:22:EA:E8:0E:78:78:34:62:A7:9F:45:C2:54:FD:E6:8B

so they both begin and end the same, so that's good


On the Details tab, there are many Certificate Fields but all are
empty  including the Validity Not Before and Not After fields
which contained data on the other General tab.


That is odd. As »Q« mentioned, to see the values of a field, you have to
click on it in Certificate Fields list, and the value appears in the
Field Value section below. If that works, you'll probably see that the
Not After field is shown as some time on 01/01/2038 (this is in your
local time) followed by 31/12/2037 23:59:59 GMT.


I'm guessing the secure one might not be listed if you haven't
successfully visited a site using that certificate, but if the root one
isn't there that could be your problem.

Mark.


Yeap, you got that right, the secure one is not listed!


The Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2 certificate is signed
by a Go Daddy Root Certificate - G2, which I assumed to be the same
one as appears in the certificate store. However, it appears that it's a
different certificate, with the same name, appearing elsewhere in the
Certificate Manager list, so I may have had you looking in the wrong
place (sorry for that!)

Further down in the Certificate Manager, there is a group of
certificates headed The Go Daddy Group, Inc. (beginning The, so
sorted under T not G!). The relevant ones I have there, which appear
to be used when I connect to https://recruitment.wodonga.vic.gov.au/, are:

Go Daddy Class 2 CA (Builtin Object Token)
   SHA-256: C3:84:6B:F2:4B:9E:93:CA:64:27:4C:0E:C6:7C:1E:CC:
5E:02:4F:FC:AC:D2:D7:40:19:35:0E:81:FE:54:6A:E4


C3:84:6B:F2:4B:9E:93:CA:64:27:4C:0E:C6:7C:1E:CC:5E:02:4F:FC:AC:D2:D7:40:19:35:0E:81:FE:54:6A:E4


   SHA1: 27:96:BA:E6:3F:18:01:E2:77:26:1B:A0:D7:77:70:02:8F:20:EE:E4


27:96:BA:E6:3F:18:01:E2:77:26:1B:A0:D7:77:70:02:8F:20:EE:E4

So they're both the same.


Go Daddy Root Certificate Authority - G2 (Software Security Device)
   SHA-256: 3A:2F:BE:92:89:1E:57:FE:05:D5:70:87:F4:8E:73:0F:
17:E5:A5:F5:3E:F4:03:D6:18:E5:B7:4D:7A:7E:6E:CB


Note on mine, the Cert is not named as -G2
SHA-256 
09:ED:6E:99:1F:C3:27:3D:8F:EA:31:7D:33:9C:02:04:18:61:97:35:49:CF:A6:E1:55:8F:41:1F:11:21:1A:A3



   SHA1: 34:0B:28:80:F4:46:FC:C0:4E:59:ED:33:F5:2B:3D:08:D6:24:29:64


7C:46:56:C3:06:1F:7F:4C:0D:67:B3:19:A8:55:F6:0E:BC:11:FC:44


Do you have either or both of these?

Mark.


Both different!!

Guess I might go the Install Release Route to see if that helps!

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Re: This Connection is Untrusted

[Daniel]

On 02/05/15 00:08, Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:

On Fri, 01 May 2015 20:52:35 +1000, Daniel dan...@albury.net.spam.au
wrote:


On 01/05/15 20:38, Daniel wrote:

On 01/05/15 20:20, Daniel wrote:

I'm currently unemployed, so, to get me out and about, I'm looking to
apply for one of the positions here
http://www.wodonga.vic.gov.au/about-us/careers-with-us/current-vacancies/
however,
in SM 2.33B1, I get told that This Connection is Untrusted and it
offers to take me to my Home Page instead (and I should point out that
it actually takes me to the http://www.seamonkey-project.org/start/ page
rather than my Home Page, maybe because I use a Home Group rather than
a Home page!!)

If I open that page in FF 24.2.0, no problem, it even works in Konqueror
4.11.4!

Just not SM.

Anybody got any ideas??


Alright, now that my post has connected to a thread from last year, I'll
have a look through these posts and see if anything suggested works!!


Reading back through the thread, it would seem that I first need to know
who issued the Cert. Any ideas how I find out what Cert Auth a website
might use??


I'm not seeing this warning message here on SM 2.33.1. Date/Time/Year
on your PC correct? Had one instance of a PC exhibiting this only to
find out the battery had died and CMOS lost time/date info and Windows
Time couldn't auto update.

- Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]

The clock is a minute or two fast, but I wouldn't expect that to cause a 
problem!!


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On 02/05/15 06:16, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 01/05/15 20:38, Daniel wrote:

On 01/05/15 20:20, Daniel wrote:

I'm currently unemployed, so, to get me out and about, I'm looking to
apply for one of the positions here
http://www.wodonga.vic.gov.au/about-us/careers-with-us/current-vacancies/


however,
in SM 2.33B1, I get told that This Connection is Untrusted and it
offers to take me to my Home Page instead (and I should point out
that
it actually takes me to the http://www.seamonkey-project.org/start/
page
rather than my Home Page, maybe because I use a Home Group rather than
a Home page!!)

If I open that page in FF 24.2.0, no problem, it even works in
Konqueror
4.11.4!

Just not SM.

Anybody got any ideas??


Alright, now that my post has connected to a thread from last year, I'll
have a look through these posts and see if anything suggested works!!


Reading back through the thread, it would seem that I first need to know
who issued the Cert. Any ideas how I find out what Cert Auth a website
might use??


If you click on Technical Details, it should show why the certificate
was rejected. e.g. when I go to https://localhost/ (on my machine,
running a web server for testing) I get:

The certificate is not trusted because it is self-signed.
The certificate is only valid for hostname
The certificate expired on 04/01/2014 19:21. The current time is
01/05/2015 20:56.

Which tells me the site is using a self-signed certificate, which is
only valid when addressed as hostname (not as localhost) and expired
over a year ago. Not a good sign if that's coming from a usually
reputable website ;o)

If you click on I Understand the Risks, and then Add Exception...,
you get to see a few more details before deciding whether to actually
add an exception. In the resulting dialog, click Get Certificate, then
View. On the Details tab, you should be able to trace through the
intermediate certificates to the root authority. Click Cancel to close
those dialogs (unless you want to add an exception to use the site,
which isn't recommended unless you understand why the error is occurring
- particularly as no-one else is seeing a problem).

Mark.


Thanks for this, Mark, and when I look at the Technical Details I see

Technical Details

recruitment.wodonga.vic.gov.au uses an invalid security certificate. The 
certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is unknown. 
(Error code: sec_error_unknown_issuer)


So why do my old FF and current'ish Konqueror both work o.k.?? Are they 
not examining the certificate??


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Re: This Connection is Untrusted

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Daniel wrote:

Entering godaddy in the search box of the SM data manager gets an
empty Domain field ... do I need something in there??


It probably won't be there. Look under Edit  Preferences  Privacy  
Security  Certificates  Manage Certificates  Authorities. For me, 
GoDaddy.com, Inc. is listed there, with a root certificate authority 
and a secure certificate authority.


I'm guessing the secure one might not be listed if you haven't 
successfully visited a site using that certificate, but if the root one 
isn't there that could be your problem.


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Re: This Connection is Untrusted

[Daniel]

On 02/05/15 06:05, »Q« wrote:

In news:roydny41x7usx97inz2dnuu7-eudn...@mozilla.org,
Daniel dan...@albury.net.spam.au wrote:


On 01/05/15 20:38, Daniel wrote:

On 01/05/15 20:20, Daniel wrote:

I'm currently unemployed, so, to get me out and about, I'm looking
to apply for one of the positions here
http://www.wodonga.vic.gov.au/about-us/careers-with-us/current-vacancies/
however,
in SM 2.33B1, I get told that This Connection is Untrusted



If I open that page in FF 24.2.0, no problem, it even works in
Konqueror 4.11.4!

Just not SM.

Anybody got any ideas??



Reading back through the thread, it would seem that I first need to
know who issued the Cert. Any ideas how I find out what Cert Auth a
website might use??


In general, you have to find the https URL and paste it into an address
bar.  If that doesn't work, you'd have to move on from browsers to other
tools, which are less easy to use but more flexible.

That page just encloses https://recruitment.wodonga.vic.gov.au/ in a
frame, which is IMO is a useless, annoying obfuscation.  Open that URL
in one of the browsers that works to see that the issuer is Go Daddy
Secure Certificate Authority - G2.

Trying to open https://recruitment.wodonga.vic.gov.au/ in SeaMonkey
may reveal clues about whatever the problem is.

Do you get your SeaMonkey directly from Mozilla or from a repository
specific to your distro?  If it's from a repo, remind me what distro
you use.

I'm starting to suspect that some Debianish devs but not others find
GoDaddy objectionable and disable trusting it.  That's really just
speculation, but it would explain why others can't reproduce your
problem and why only one of your browsers is affected.


Thanks for trying, Q.

Clicking on your recruitment.wodonga links above still comes up with the 
This connection is Untrusted page.


Entering godaddy in the search box of the SM data manager gets an 
empty Domain field ... do I need something in there??


I get my Beta versions of SeaMonkey direct via the ftp site, 
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.33b1/contrib/


Just as well I've got the old Firefox and Konqueror that do get me to 
the site.


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Re: This Connection is Untrusted

[Daniel]

On 02/05/15 21:33, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Entering godaddy in the search box of the SM data manager gets an
empty Domain field ... do I need something in there??


It probably won't be there. Look under Edit  Preferences  Privacy 
Security  Certificates  Manage Certificates  Authorities. For me,
GoDaddy.com, Inc. is listed there, with a root certificate authority
and a secure certificate authority.


At this point, I see I've got a GoDaddy.com, Inc. listing that includes 
a Go Daddy Root Certificate Authority - G2 which is listed as a 
Software Security Device.


When I highlight that and click View, under the General tab there is 
various information including Organizational Unit (OU) Not Part Of 
Certificate and Serial Number 00 and Period of Validity began on 
01/09/09 and expires on 01/01/38 and SHA1 and SHA-256 fingerprints


On the Details tab, there are many Certificate Fields but all are 
empty  including the Validity Not Before and Not After fields 
which contained data on the other General tab.



I'm guessing the secure one might not be listed if you haven't
successfully visited a site using that certificate, but if the root one
isn't there that could be your problem.

Mark.


Yeap, you got that right, the secure one is not listed!

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Daniel wrote:

On 02/05/15 21:33, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Entering godaddy in the search box of the SM data manager gets an
empty Domain field ... do I need something in there??


It probably won't be there. Look under Edit  Preferences  Privacy 
Security  Certificates  Manage Certificates  Authorities. For me,
GoDaddy.com, Inc. is listed there, with a root certificate authority
and a secure certificate authority.


At this point, I see I've got a GoDaddy.com, Inc. listing that includes
a Go Daddy Root Certificate Authority - G2 which is listed as a
Software Security Device.


That's interesting. For me, that one is a Builtin Object Token (a 
preinstalled root certificate). The Go Daddy Secure... one is a 
Software Security Device type, indicating that it is either a 
previously seen intermediate certificate, or a root certificate I've 
added myself (I'm pretty sure it's the former in this case).


If you click Edit Trust, are any of the options ticked there? On mine, 
it is set to allow identifying web sites, and identifying software makers.


It might be worth installing a release build of SeaMonkey, rather than 
your current beta version, to see if that makes any difference? I'm 
currently using 2.33.1, which is newer than 2.33b1 anyway. While using 
the latest beta is great for getting the latest features (and finding 
any problems early), I'm not sure that there's any advantage in using an 
outdated beta in preference to a newer release.



When I highlight that and click View, under the General tab there is
various information including Organizational Unit (OU) Not Part Of
Certificate and Serial Number 00 and Period of Validity began on
01/09/09


That all matches the entry in my certificates.


and expires on 01/01/38


Mine shows expires on 31/12/2037, although that's probably because the 
timestamp is adjusted for our local timezones.



and SHA1 and SHA-256 fingerprints


Do they match these?
SHA-256: 45:14:0B:32:47:EB:9C:C8:C5:B4:F0:D7:B5:30:91:F7:
 32:92:08:9E:6E:5A:63:E2:74:9D:D3:AC:A9:19:8E:DA
SHA1: 47:BE:AB:C9:22:EA:E8:0E:78:78:34:62:A7:9F:45:C2:54:FD:E6:8B


On the Details tab, there are many Certificate Fields but all are
empty  including the Validity Not Before and Not After fields
which contained data on the other General tab.


That is odd. As »Q« mentioned, to see the values of a field, you have to 
click on it in Certificate Fields list, and the value appears in the 
Field Value section below. If that works, you'll probably see that the 
Not After field is shown as some time on 01/01/2038 (this is in your 
local time) followed by 31/12/2037 23:59:59 GMT.



I'm guessing the secure one might not be listed if you haven't
successfully visited a site using that certificate, but if the root one
isn't there that could be your problem.

Mark.


Yeap, you got that right, the secure one is not listed!


The Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2 certificate is signed 
by a Go Daddy Root Certificate - G2, which I assumed to be the same 
one as appears in the certificate store. However, it appears that it's a 
different certificate, with the same name, appearing elsewhere in the 
Certificate Manager list, so I may have had you looking in the wrong 
place (sorry for that!)


Further down in the Certificate Manager, there is a group of 
certificates headed The Go Daddy Group, Inc. (beginning The, so 
sorted under T not G!). The relevant ones I have there, which appear 
to be used when I connect to https://recruitment.wodonga.vic.gov.au/, are:


Go Daddy Class 2 CA (Builtin Object Token)
  SHA-256: C3:84:6B:F2:4B:9E:93:CA:64:27:4C:0E:C6:7C:1E:CC:
   5E:02:4F:FC:AC:D2:D7:40:19:35:0E:81:FE:54:6A:E4
  SHA1: 27:96:BA:E6:3F:18:01:E2:77:26:1B:A0:D7:77:70:02:8F:20:EE:E4

Go Daddy Root Certificate Authority - G2 (Software Security Device)
  SHA-256: 3A:2F:BE:92:89:1E:57:FE:05:D5:70:87:F4:8E:73:0F:
   17:E5:A5:F5:3E:F4:03:D6:18:E5:B7:4D:7A:7E:6E:CB
  SHA1: 34:0B:28:80:F4:46:FC:C0:4E:59:ED:33:F5:2B:3D:08:D6:24:29:64

Do you have either or both of these?

Mark.

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[»Q«]

In news:pacdnzh1qiutttninz2dnuu7-rudn...@mozilla.org,
Daniel dan...@albury.net.spam.au wrote:

 On 02/05/15 21:33, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

  Look under Edit  Preferences  Privacy
   Security  Certificates  Manage Certificates  Authorities. For
  me, GoDaddy.com, Inc. is listed there, with a root certificate
  authority and a secure certificate authority.
 
 At this point, I see I've got a GoDaddy.com, Inc. listing that
 includes a Go Daddy Root Certificate Authority - G2 which is listed
 as a Software Security Device.
 
 When I highlight that and click View, under the General tab there
 is various information 

At the top of that General tab, does it say this? :

This certificate has been verified for the following uses:
SSL Certificate Authority





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[»Q«]

In news:pacdnzh1qiutttninz2dnuu7-rudn...@mozilla.org,
Daniel dan...@albury.net.spam.au wrote:

 On 02/05/15 21:33, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:
  Daniel wrote:
  Entering godaddy in the search box of the SM data manager gets an
  empty Domain field ... do I need something in there??
 
  It probably won't be there. Look under Edit  Preferences  Privacy
   Security  Certificates  Manage Certificates  Authorities. For
  me, GoDaddy.com, Inc. is listed there, with a root certificate
  authority and a secure certificate authority.
 
 At this point, I see I've got a GoDaddy.com, Inc. listing that
 includes a Go Daddy Root Certificate Authority - G2 which is listed
 as a Software Security Device.
 
 When I highlight that and click View, under the General tab there
 is various information including Organizational Unit (OU) Not Part
 Of 
 Certificate and Serial Number 00 and Period of Validity began on 
 01/09/09 and expires on 01/01/38 and SHA1 and SHA-256 fingerprints

At the top of that General tab, does it say this? :

This certificate has been verified for the following uses:
SSL Certificate Authority

 On the Details tab, there are many Certificate Fields but all are 
 empty  including the Validity Not Before and Not After
 fields which contained data on the other General tab.

On the Details tab, make sure you're looking in the right place.
Clicking on, e.g., Not Before should cause the field info to appear
well below where the Not Before appears.


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Daniel wrote:

On 01/05/15 20:38, Daniel wrote:

On 01/05/15 20:20, Daniel wrote:

I'm currently unemployed, so, to get me out and about, I'm looking to
apply for one of the positions here
http://www.wodonga.vic.gov.au/about-us/careers-with-us/current-vacancies/

however,
in SM 2.33B1, I get told that This Connection is Untrusted and it
offers to take me to my Home Page instead (and I should point out that
it actually takes me to the http://www.seamonkey-project.org/start/ page
rather than my Home Page, maybe because I use a Home Group rather than
a Home page!!)

If I open that page in FF 24.2.0, no problem, it even works in Konqueror
4.11.4!

Just not SM.

Anybody got any ideas??


Alright, now that my post has connected to a thread from last year, I'll
have a look through these posts and see if anything suggested works!!


Reading back through the thread, it would seem that I first need to know
who issued the Cert. Any ideas how I find out what Cert Auth a website
might use??




Also no problem loading the page using SeaMonkey 2.33.1 release.
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[»Q«]

In news:roydny41x7usx97inz2dnuu7-eudn...@mozilla.org,
Daniel dan...@albury.net.spam.au wrote:

 On 01/05/15 20:38, Daniel wrote:
  On 01/05/15 20:20, Daniel wrote:
  I'm currently unemployed, so, to get me out and about, I'm looking
  to apply for one of the positions here
  http://www.wodonga.vic.gov.au/about-us/careers-with-us/current-vacancies/
  however,
  in SM 2.33B1, I get told that This Connection is Untrusted 

  If I open that page in FF 24.2.0, no problem, it even works in
  Konqueror 4.11.4!
 
  Just not SM.
 
  Anybody got any ideas??
 
 Reading back through the thread, it would seem that I first need to
 know who issued the Cert. Any ideas how I find out what Cert Auth a
 website might use??

In general, you have to find the https URL and paste it into an address
bar.  If that doesn't work, you'd have to move on from browsers to other
tools, which are less easy to use but more flexible.

That page just encloses https://recruitment.wodonga.vic.gov.au/ in a
frame, which is IMO is a useless, annoying obfuscation.  Open that URL
in one of the browsers that works to see that the issuer is Go Daddy
Secure Certificate Authority - G2.

Trying to open https://recruitment.wodonga.vic.gov.au/ in SeaMonkey
may reveal clues about whatever the problem is.

Do you get your SeaMonkey directly from Mozilla or from a repository
specific to your distro?  If it's from a repo, remind me what distro
you use.

I'm starting to suspect that some Debianish devs but not others find
GoDaddy objectionable and disable trusting it.  That's really just
speculation, but it would explain why others can't reproduce your
problem and why only one of your browsers is affected.
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Daniel wrote:

On 01/05/15 20:38, Daniel wrote:

On 01/05/15 20:20, Daniel wrote:

I'm currently unemployed, so, to get me out and about, I'm looking to
apply for one of the positions here
http://www.wodonga.vic.gov.au/about-us/careers-with-us/current-vacancies/

however,
in SM 2.33B1, I get told that This Connection is Untrusted and it
offers to take me to my Home Page instead (and I should point out that
it actually takes me to the http://www.seamonkey-project.org/start/ page
rather than my Home Page, maybe because I use a Home Group rather than
a Home page!!)

If I open that page in FF 24.2.0, no problem, it even works in Konqueror
4.11.4!

Just not SM.

Anybody got any ideas??


Alright, now that my post has connected to a thread from last year, I'll
have a look through these posts and see if anything suggested works!!


Reading back through the thread, it would seem that I first need to know
who issued the Cert. Any ideas how I find out what Cert Auth a website
might use??


If you click on Technical Details, it should show why the certificate 
was rejected. e.g. when I go to https://localhost/ (on my machine, 
running a web server for testing) I get:

The certificate is not trusted because it is self-signed.
The certificate is only valid for hostname
The certificate expired on 04/01/2014 19:21. The current time is 01/05/2015 
20:56.
Which tells me the site is using a self-signed certificate, which is 
only valid when addressed as hostname (not as localhost) and expired 
over a year ago. Not a good sign if that's coming from a usually 
reputable website ;o)


If you click on I Understand the Risks, and then Add Exception..., 
you get to see a few more details before deciding whether to actually 
add an exception. In the resulting dialog, click Get Certificate, then 
View. On the Details tab, you should be able to trace through the 
intermediate certificates to the root authority. Click Cancel to close 
those dialogs (unless you want to add an exception to use the site, 
which isn't recommended unless you understand why the error is occurring 
- particularly as no-one else is seeing a problem).


Mark.

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[Daniel]

On 01/05/15 20:20, Daniel wrote:

I'm currently unemployed, so, to get me out and about, I'm looking to
apply for one of the positions here
http://www.wodonga.vic.gov.au/about-us/careers-with-us/current-vacancies/ 
however,
in SM 2.33B1, I get told that This Connection is Untrusted and it
offers to take me to my Home Page instead (and I should point out that
it actually takes me to the http://www.seamonkey-project.org/start/ page
rather than my Home Page, maybe because I use a Home Group rather than
a Home page!!)

If I open that page in FF 24.2.0, no problem, it even works in Konqueror
4.11.4!

Just not SM.

Anybody got any ideas??

Alright, now that my post has connected to a thread from last year, I'll 
have a look through these posts and see if anything suggested works!!


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[Daniel]

On 01/05/15 20:38, Daniel wrote:

On 01/05/15 20:20, Daniel wrote:

I'm currently unemployed, so, to get me out and about, I'm looking to
apply for one of the positions here
http://www.wodonga.vic.gov.au/about-us/careers-with-us/current-vacancies/
however,
in SM 2.33B1, I get told that This Connection is Untrusted and it
offers to take me to my Home Page instead (and I should point out that
it actually takes me to the http://www.seamonkey-project.org/start/ page
rather than my Home Page, maybe because I use a Home Group rather than
a Home page!!)

If I open that page in FF 24.2.0, no problem, it even works in Konqueror
4.11.4!

Just not SM.

Anybody got any ideas??


Alright, now that my post has connected to a thread from last year, I'll
have a look through these posts and see if anything suggested works!!


Reading back through the thread, it would seem that I first need to know 
who issued the Cert. Any ideas how I find out what Cert Auth a website 
might use??


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20141218225909

or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.33 Build identifier: 20150215202114

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Re: This Connection is Untrusted

[Lee]

Well I am not dumb just not a techie!  Plus if I make a mistake
I lose all the stuff on here.  My time was spent in the Army
and believe me while I learned a lot in some ways I missed a lot
also.  Hey thanks for the help will give it a try.  You young
whipper snaper! Mine is July!


David E. Ross wrote:

Age 75 is not so bad.  I am about two months shy of 73.  But then my
whole 40+ year career -- until I retired -- involved computer software.


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Re: This Connection is Untrusted

[Lee]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/21/2014 4:05 AM, Lee wrote:

This is being typed on another computer.  On my Desktop running Vista I
keep getting that message every time I try almost any site.  It has just
started doing that and needless to say has me perplexed.
Below is the msg I keep getting with a symbol of a crossing guard I
assume. I have run my security programs with negative results

You have asked SeaMonkey to connect securely to www.facebook.com but we
cannot confirm that your connection is secure.

Normally,when you try to connect securely, websites will present
trusted identification to prove that you are going to the right place.
However, this website identity cant be verified.

Any tips would be appreciated.  I use AVG for Internet security.



Either you have distrusted root SSL certificates or else your database
of certificates has become corrupted.

To start, go to your SeaMonkey menu bar and select [Edit  Preferences].
  On the left side of your Preferences window, select [Preference 
Privacy  Security  Certificates].  On the Certificates pane, select
the Manage Certificates button.  On the Certificates Manager window,
select the Authorities tab.  Do you see a list of certification
authorities, under which their root certificates are listed indented?

If so, scroll down the list to Digicert.  Select DigiCert High Assurance
EV Root CA (the certificate used by Facebook) and then the Edit Trust
button.  You should see a checkmark for This certificate can identify
websites.  If there is no checkmark, terminate SeaMonkey, open the
folder containing your profile, delete file cert8.db, relaunch
SeaMonkey, and try Facebook again.

If you do not see a list of certification authorities and their root
certificates in the Certificates Manager window, then your database of
certificates is corrupted or missing.  You need to import the database
file from a good SeaMonkey installation while SeaMonkey is not running.
  In this case, I do not know the name of the file; but someone else
reading this thread should be able to provide it.  If the file on your
PC already exists but is corrupted, I do not know if reinstalling
SeaMonkey will help.

I followed each step and found all 3 boxes checked.  Is it possible to 
just delete the Sea Monkey folder and then re install Sea Monkey?  Also 
how in the heck do you change the pass word?  I have looked and looked 
but did not find it.  BTW if I appear lost I am at almost 75 I am slow 
at this stuff and most of the time it is over my head but I try.  BTW 
again thanks for your assistance that was easy to follow.

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Re: This Connection is Untrusted

[David E. Ross]

On 5/22/2014 11:10 AM, Lee wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 5/21/2014 4:05 AM, Lee wrote:
 This is being typed on another computer.  On my Desktop running Vista I
 keep getting that message every time I try almost any site.  It has just
 started doing that and needless to say has me perplexed.
 Below is the msg I keep getting with a symbol of a crossing guard I
 assume. I have run my security programs with negative results

 You have asked SeaMonkey to connect securely to www.facebook.com but we
 cannot confirm that your connection is secure.

 Normally,when you try to connect securely, websites will present
 trusted identification to prove that you are going to the right place.
 However, this website identity cant be verified.

 Any tips would be appreciated.  I use AVG for Internet security.


 Either you have distrusted root SSL certificates or else your database
 of certificates has become corrupted.

 To start, go to your SeaMonkey menu bar and select [Edit  Preferences].
   On the left side of your Preferences window, select [Preference 
 Privacy  Security  Certificates].  On the Certificates pane, select
 the Manage Certificates button.  On the Certificates Manager window,
 select the Authorities tab.  Do you see a list of certification
 authorities, under which their root certificates are listed indented?

 If so, scroll down the list to Digicert.  Select DigiCert High Assurance
 EV Root CA (the certificate used by Facebook) and then the Edit Trust
 button.  You should see a checkmark for This certificate can identify
 websites.  If there is no checkmark, terminate SeaMonkey, open the
 folder containing your profile, delete file cert8.db, relaunch
 SeaMonkey, and try Facebook again.

 If you do not see a list of certification authorities and their root
 certificates in the Certificates Manager window, then your database of
 certificates is corrupted or missing.  You need to import the database
 file from a good SeaMonkey installation while SeaMonkey is not running.
   In this case, I do not know the name of the file; but someone else
 reading this thread should be able to provide it.  If the file on your
 PC already exists but is corrupted, I do not know if reinstalling
 SeaMonkey will help.

 I followed each step and found all 3 boxes checked.  Is it possible to 
 just delete the Sea Monkey folder and then re install Sea Monkey?  Also 
 how in the heck do you change the pass word?  I have looked and looked 
 but did not find it.  BTW if I appear lost I am at almost 75 I am slow 
 at this stuff and most of the time it is over my head but I try.  BTW 
 again thanks for your assistance that was easy to follow.
 

Try reinstalling SeaMonkey WITHOUT deleting anything.  If that does not
work, use the Windows [Control Panel  All Control Panel Items 
Programs and Features} to delete SeaMonkey and then try reinstalling
SeaMonkey again.

Age 75 is not so bad.  I am about two months shy of 73.  But then my
whole 40+ year career -- until I retired -- involved computer software.

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Re: This Connection is Untrusted

[David E. Ross]

On 5/21/2014 4:05 AM, Lee wrote:
 This is being typed on another computer.  On my Desktop running Vista I 
 keep getting that message every time I try almost any site.  It has just 
 started doing that and needless to say has me perplexed.
 Below is the msg I keep getting with a symbol of a crossing guard I 
 assume. I have run my security programs with negative results
 
 You have asked SeaMonkey to connect securely to www.facebook.com but we 
 cannot confirm that your connection is secure.
 
 Normally,when you try to connect securely, websites will present 
 trusted identification to prove that you are going to the right place. 
 However, this website identity cant be verified.
 
 Any tips would be appreciated.  I use AVG for Internet security.
 

Either you have distrusted root SSL certificates or else your database
of certificates has become corrupted.

To start, go to your SeaMonkey menu bar and select [Edit  Preferences].
 On the left side of your Preferences window, select [Preference 
Privacy  Security  Certificates].  On the Certificates pane, select
the Manage Certificates button.  On the Certificates Manager window,
select the Authorities tab.  Do you see a list of certification
authorities, under which their root certificates are listed indented?

If so, scroll down the list to Digicert.  Select DigiCert High Assurance
EV Root CA (the certificate used by Facebook) and then the Edit Trust
button.  You should see a checkmark for This certificate can identify
websites.  If there is no checkmark, terminate SeaMonkey, open the
folder containing your profile, delete file cert8.db, relaunch
SeaMonkey, and try Facebook again.

If you do not see a list of certification authorities and their root
certificates in the Certificates Manager window, then your database of
certificates is corrupted or missing.  You need to import the database
file from a good SeaMonkey installation while SeaMonkey is not running.
 In this case, I do not know the name of the file; but someone else
reading this thread should be able to provide it.  If the file on your
PC already exists but is corrupted, I do not know if reinstalling
SeaMonkey will help.

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Re: This Connection is Untrusted

[Ed Mullen]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/21/2014 4:05 AM, Lee wrote:

This is being typed on another computer.  On my Desktop running Vista I
keep getting that message every time I try almost any site.  It has just
started doing that and needless to say has me perplexed.
Below is the msg I keep getting with a symbol of a crossing guard I
assume. I have run my security programs with negative results

You have asked SeaMonkey to connect securely to www.facebook.com but we
cannot confirm that your connection is secure.

Normally,when you try to connect securely, websites will present
trusted identification to prove that you are going to the right place.
However, this website identity cant be verified.

Any tips would be appreciated.  I use AVG for Internet security.



Either you have distrusted root SSL certificates or else your database
of certificates has become corrupted.

To start, go to your SeaMonkey menu bar and select [Edit  Preferences].
  On the left side of your Preferences window, select [Preference 
Privacy  Security  Certificates].  On the Certificates pane, select
the Manage Certificates button.  On the Certificates Manager window,
select the Authorities tab.  Do you see a list of certification
authorities, under which their root certificates are listed indented?

If so, scroll down the list to Digicert.  Select DigiCert High Assurance
EV Root CA (the certificate used by Facebook) and then the Edit Trust
button.  You should see a checkmark for This certificate can identify
websites.  If there is no checkmark, terminate SeaMonkey, open the
folder containing your profile, delete file cert8.db, relaunch
SeaMonkey, and try Facebook again.

If you do not see a list of certification authorities and their root
certificates in the Certificates Manager window, then your database of
certificates is corrupted or missing.  You need to import the database
file from a good SeaMonkey installation while SeaMonkey is not running.
  In this case, I do not know the name of the file; but someone else
reading this thread should be able to provide it.  If the file on your
PC already exists but is corrupted, I do not know if reinstalling
SeaMonkey will help.



I believe the file is:  cert8.db

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey#Files


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Re: This Connection is Untrusted

[David E. Ross]

On 5/21/2014 9:39 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 5/21/2014 4:05 AM, Lee wrote:
 This is being typed on another computer.  On my Desktop running Vista I
 keep getting that message every time I try almost any site.  It has just
 started doing that and needless to say has me perplexed.
 Below is the msg I keep getting with a symbol of a crossing guard I
 assume. I have run my security programs with negative results

 You have asked SeaMonkey to connect securely to www.facebook.com but we
 cannot confirm that your connection is secure.

 Normally,when you try to connect securely, websites will present
 trusted identification to prove that you are going to the right place.
 However, this website identity cant be verified.

 Any tips would be appreciated.  I use AVG for Internet security.


 Either you have distrusted root SSL certificates or else your database
 of certificates has become corrupted.

 To start, go to your SeaMonkey menu bar and select [Edit  Preferences].
   On the left side of your Preferences window, select [Preference 
 Privacy  Security  Certificates].  On the Certificates pane, select
 the Manage Certificates button.  On the Certificates Manager window,
 select the Authorities tab.  Do you see a list of certification
 authorities, under which their root certificates are listed indented?

 If so, scroll down the list to Digicert.  Select DigiCert High Assurance
 EV Root CA (the certificate used by Facebook) and then the Edit Trust
 button.  You should see a checkmark for This certificate can identify
 websites.  If there is no checkmark, terminate SeaMonkey, open the
 folder containing your profile, delete file cert8.db, relaunch
 SeaMonkey, and try Facebook again.

 If you do not see a list of certification authorities and their root
 certificates in the Certificates Manager window, then your database of
 certificates is corrupted or missing.  You need to import the database
 file from a good SeaMonkey installation while SeaMonkey is not running.
   In this case, I do not know the name of the file; but someone else
 reading this thread should be able to provide it.  If the file on your
 PC already exists but is corrupted, I do not know if reinstalling
 SeaMonkey will help.

 
 I believe the file is:  cert8.db
 
 http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey#Files
 
 

That is what Mozillazine says.  However, I thought cert8.db contained
only what the user changed relative to untrusting or deleting root
certificates and changing trust bits.

If I delete cert8.db and then relaunch SeaMonkey, a new cert8.db is
created.  What is the source of that?

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