Re: [freenet-support] Freenet is connecting to the network - this may take a few minutes ...

2011-02-12 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Sunday 30 Jan 2011 22:06:34 Jep wrote:
 Matthew Toseland :
  On Wednesday 26 January 2011 10:04:27 Jep wrote:
  Jep :
  [FN not connecting to strangers]
 
  Bootstrapping has been a lot slower for the last couple of weeks (you 
  obviously have some other problem, 
  maybe a low MTU, as well). I have checked all the obvious possibilities, 
  I'm fairly sure there isn't anything 
  seriously broken in the opennet code, it seems to be a side effect of wider 
  network problems (e.g. the backoff when 
  fetching stuff through fproxy). It is being worked on; if I had an easy and 
  low-risk solution I'd deploy it.
 
 
 Thanks for replying.
 
 If there exists a problem with my winz, it is not bothering anything but 
 Freenet.
 Even other, very demanding java apps run fine and there is no networking 
 issue with anything else.
 
 Ain't no tech, that MTU, is that something I can check for, and alter?
 Wikipedia isn't making me much wiser, it's over my head.
 If some network-guru can take me by the hand, please do. Spoonfeeding is 
 not needed :)
 
 Was off FN again for a day when updating to 1339.
 Only restarts of Freenet seem to give some chance of letting it find peers.
 Time and again, for a few seconds seednodes are found and if there ain't 
 no peers found right after that, it never happens.
 Would a script be possible that 'sees' if there are connections, and 
 when not, restarts FN?

Has Freenet successfully announced and updated itself? A lot of work has been 
done on this and 1352 should work really well...
 
 
 And once more, I just keep asking... :
 
  A question asked earlier, to which I have not seen an answer:
  Can I conclude the Freenet wrapper no longer runs as a service, meaning 
  that the FN service can be removed?

It depends when you installed it. Recent versions don't use a service. However, 
if your node uses a service, keep the service.


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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet is connecting to the network - this may take a few minutes ...

2011-02-12 Thread Jep

Matthew Toseland :

On Sunday 30 Jan 2011 22:06:34 Jep wrote:

Matthew Toseland :

On Wednesday 26 January 2011 10:04:27 Jep wrote:

Jep :

[FN not connecting to strangers]



Has Freenet successfully announced and updated itself? A lot of work has been 
done on this and 1352 should work really well...


No. The recent update flood left my node disconnected for a day and a 
half once more. Nothing I tried helped. Only a reinstall from scratch 
brought me back on FN. I mean really from scratch, also the (big) 
datastore and .ini anew; a reinstall with that put back also didn't work.
Since I have not opened the new port numbers in my router, I figured it 
may be my router misbehaving or me configuring it wrong.
But OTOH then FN  would not function at all and not like usual for me, 
be a big problem to connect but OK once in and left running. Also, an 
online test for open ports said it's OK once my old software firewall 
was removed.


So then what's left is that I somehow misconfigured Freenet; I'll send 
you the old .ini.


I'd really like to know what the problem at mine might be! Because I've 
done a complete reinstall more often in the past but the problem always 
returned after some time. So if you would care to look into it?


Got another xp box, only used for childs games too, a plain vanilla xp 
that's only updated for security and it had the same problem when I 
tried. Can't remember though if I reused my .ini file.


Can I conclude the Freenet wrapper no longer runs as a service, meaning 
that the FN service can be removed?


It depends when you installed it. Recent versions don't use a service. However, 
if your node uses a service, keep the service.


Noticed the service is still there doing nothing. I'll remove it.

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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet is connecting to the network - this may take a few minutes ...

2011-01-30 Thread Jep

Matthew Toseland :

On Wednesday 26 January 2011 10:04:27 Jep wrote:

Jep :

[FN not connecting to strangers]


Bootstrapping has been a lot slower for the last couple of weeks (you obviously have some other problem, 
maybe a low MTU, as well). I have checked all the obvious possibilities, I'm fairly sure there isn't anything 
seriously broken in the opennet code, it seems to be a side effect of wider network problems (e.g. the backoff when 
fetching stuff through fproxy). It is being worked on; if I had an easy and low-risk solution I'd deploy it.



Thanks for replying.

If there exists a problem with my winz, it is not bothering anything but 
Freenet.
Even other, very demanding java apps run fine and there is no networking 
issue with anything else.


Ain't no tech, that MTU, is that something I can check for, and alter?
Wikipedia isn't making me much wiser, it's over my head.
If some network-guru can take me by the hand, please do. Spoonfeeding is 
not needed :)


Was off FN again for a day when updating to 1339.
Only restarts of Freenet seem to give some chance of letting it find peers.
Time and again, for a few seconds seednodes are found and if there ain't 
no peers found right after that, it never happens.
Would a script be possible that 'sees' if there are connections, and 
when not, restarts FN?



And once more, I just keep asking... :


A question asked earlier, to which I have not seen an answer:
Can I conclude the Freenet wrapper no longer runs as a service, meaning 
that the FN service can be removed?


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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet is connecting to the network - this may take a few minutes ...

2011-01-26 Thread Jep

Jep :

... must at mine be read as
'Freenet is *not* connecting to the network no matter what- this may 
take forever and a day.'



As long as I'm using FN, which is nearly a year;
my working scheme when updating, rebooting the system or for some other 
reason having to restart Freenet looks like this:


1 Just try it - this almost never works. Okay okay, say 3 out of 4 times 
it doesn't.

2 delete nodedb4o and try it
3 delete nodedb4o and everything with the port numbers in its name and 
try it
4 put the datastore folder and freenet.ini aside, uninstall Freenet and 
reinstall, put the stuff back and try it


More often than not, only after step 4 it finally finds its stranger 
peers. But today again, nothing and nothing helps so Freenet is dead and 
I am, again, out of options.



What I see happening is that when starting FN, for some 45 seconds, some 
seednodes are found and connected to.

Then those connections drop and are never built up again.
After that, the wrapper log only adds, line after line: 'Trying to 
connect to some seednodes...' and nothing else happens.



XP, plenty of RAM and HD space, java up to date, ports fwd'd in the router.
Once FN does connect, it stays that way. That is, apart from the backoff 
problem that seems to get worse.



If there is any tip, short of giving up on Freenet, please let me know.


Thanks for your reply.



A question asked earlier, to which I have not seen an answer:
Can I conclude the Freenet wrapper no longer runs as a service, meaning 
that the FN service can be removed?


And yet another.
Matthew, you asked for a big log some time ago, and I sent it. And I 
have not seen any conclusion of it other than that you hoped a new FN 
build would solve my connection problems. Which was a little bit true, 
but only a very little bit.
It connected finally then, but it still stays hell if if I need to 
restart FN.


1335 somehow connected to strangers once more, after being off FN for 
more than a day.
But, there's a new build already, mandatory on Friday, and I am for 
obvious reason not very keen to update.


The backoff problem seems to have gone worse than ever, currently 8 
connected and 32 backoffs. Maybe all will backoff today and not come 
back, and I will have to try to connect anyway...


Very nice, those plans for .8 but am I asking too much if I solely want 
FN to work?


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