Re: [freenet-support] doctype and other html tags through fproxy
Paul Derbyshire wrote: Other http:// URLs are automatically converted by fproxy to point to a warning page, so inline images are not displayed. So freesites can't have images? Or can, if the image URLs point back They can, if you don't use absolute paths and thus stay within Freenet. You can have image URLs point to other freesites, too. Just use the following format: img src=/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/sitename//image.png Other keytypes (CHK and KSK) can be used, too. to fproxy rather than a regular web server? Not just image URLs, but any URLs pointing outside Freenet are changed to point to a warning page within fproxy. -- Mika Hirvonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nightwatch.mine.nu/ ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] doctype and other html tags through fproxy
Paul Derbyshire wrote: What about inline images? If tested this on a test freesite, and the scr for an inline image on the WWW gets changed to /__CHECKED_HTTP__www.urlofimage.com/directory/image.gif On 15 Mar 2004 at 14:10, Mika Hirvonen wrote: Yes, because you could harvest the visitors' IP addresses by putting the DTD to your own WWW server and waiting for the visitors' browsers to automatically retrieve it. Ok, so what is the DOCTYPE doesn't have a reference to an external DTD, such as the one on the freenet gateway page: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN What is this type of doctype screened out? (It is screened out, checked) Does fproxy just cut down all doctype tags? Michal ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] doctype and other html tags through fproxy
On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 11:42:36AM +, Michal Charemza wrote: Hi, I have two questions: 1. All the sites I've viewed on freenet, don't have a full doctype tag, they either have none, or just !DOCTYPE, instead of !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC blah blah The test site I inserted into my own node did have a full doctype tag when I wrote it, but it didn't when I retrieved it, it just had !DOCTYPE. Is this due to fproxy's anonymity filter? If so, why does it remove/shorten them? Also, I've noticed that the default gateway page does have a full doctype tag, why, if is fproxy that removes the tags from freesites, does it let this one through? A bug probably. There is code to let through valid HTML doctypes... 2. I have noticed on some pages they have this sort of section in the header: !--index titleThe Freedom Engine/title categoryIndex/category descriptionThe mother of all freesite link lists./description activelinkActiveLink.jpg/activelink address typeDBR/address type authorCofE/author -- What are all the tags for? Is there a list of all the tags you can put in this section somewhere? -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] doctype and other html tags through fproxy
On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 12:42:34PM +, Michal Charemza wrote: Paul Derbyshire wrote: What about inline images? If tested this on a test freesite, and the scr for an inline image on the WWW gets changed to /__CHECKED_HTTP__www.urlofimage.com/directory/image.gif On 15 Mar 2004 at 14:10, Mika Hirvonen wrote: Yes, because you could harvest the visitors' IP addresses by putting the DTD to your own WWW server and waiting for the visitors' browsers to automatically retrieve it. Ok, so what is the DOCTYPE doesn't have a reference to an external DTD, such as the one on the freenet gateway page: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN What is this type of doctype screened out? (It is screened out, checked) Does fproxy just cut down all doctype tags? It shouldn't be screened out, but presumably there is a bug of some sort. Michal ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] doctype and other html tags through fproxy
On 16 Mar 2004 at 15:29, Mika Hirvonen wrote: Paul Derbyshire wrote: What about inline images? Other http:// URLs are automatically converted by fproxy to point to a warning page, so inline images are not displayed. So freesites can't have images? Or can, if the image URLs point back to fproxy rather than a regular web server? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] doctype and other html tags through fproxy
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 19:40:17 -0500 Paul Derbyshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So freesites can't have images? Or can, if the image URLs point back to fproxy rather than a regular web server? Right. The best way to place an image on a freesite is: IMG SRC=/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -s ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] doctype and other html tags through fproxy
Michal Charemza wrote: !DOCTYPE, instead of !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC blah blah Is this due to fproxy's anonymity filter? If so, why does it remove/shorten them? Also, I've noticed that the default gateway page does have a full doctype tag, why, if Yes, because you could harvest the visitors' IP addresses by putting the DTD to your own WWW server and waiting for the visitors' browsers to automatically retrieve it. is fproxy that removes the tags from freesites, does it let this one through? Fproxy doesn't filter it's own pages, just the freesites. 2. I have noticed on some pages they have this sort of section in the header: !--index titleThe Freedom Engine/title categoryIndex/category descriptionThe mother of all freesite link lists./description activelinkActiveLink.jpg/activelink address typeDBR/address type authorCofE/author -- What are all the tags for? Is there a list of all the tags you can put in this section somewhere? These tags were used with TFEE, an index site with an automatic spider. DFI's spider might still use them, though. -- Mika Hirvonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nightwatch.mine.nu/ ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] doctype and other html tags through fproxy
!DOCTYPE, instead of !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC blah blah The test site I inserted into my own node did have a full doctype tag when I wrote it, but it didn't when I retrieved it, it just had !DOCTYPE. Is this due to fproxy's anonymity filter? If so, why does it remove/shorten them? Also, I've noticed that the default gateway page does have a full doctype tag, why, if is fproxy that removes the tags from freesites, does it let this one through? This is a very likely possibility because the doctype makes reference to a W3C DTD which is a public internet link. The annonymity filter needs to remove references to internet sites since most browsers will send a referral URL that invades your privacy (it essence if the web browser goes to the validation site it will do so with the address of the page you are viewing. This invades your privacy becomes someone reading the access logs can find out what freesite you were visiting). The government could subpoena W3C's weblogs to find out about freesite accesses and they'll have an IP number attached to the visit to their site so the referral freesite URI + the IP number access in W3C's log could be used against you if the material you were accessing is outlawed in the jurisdiction of W3C's server or any government system that sees packets along the route to W3C. They could visit the same freesite by the referal URI and find out what book you were reading at the time 2. I have noticed on some pages they have this sort of section in the header: !--index titleThe Freedom Engine/title categoryIndex/category descriptionThe mother of all freesite link lists./description activelinkActiveLink.jpg/activelink address typeDBR/address type authorCofE/author -- These are the meta tags used by freesites to support their inclusion onto the various indexing freesites. title - ovbious, this is the site's name category - what kind of site is this? I don't have knowledge about what acceptable values for this are description - textual description of the freesite activelink - the site icon to be associated with your freesite (think like the little banner icons many people put onto their regular internet websites for people to link to them with) addresstype - again I'm iffy on all the acceptable values but DBR AFAIK means the address of this freesite permutates automatically to a different site name either daily or weekly at midnight GMT. A site marked as DBR has to reinsert itself at the new DBR generated redirect key or the site effectively disappears (unless you select go to earlier site in the error screen that comes up for references to DBR sites that haven't been updated yet [or your routing can't find the new content yet]). The alternative to DBR is to using revisions by putting an integer in the URI part of your site. You start the integer at 1 on your first insertion of the site. Your site forward references a number of 'editions' ahead (that you have not yet inserted) by refering to the same uri echanging 1 for 2, 2,3 3,4 etc for several steps (usally four or five). You have an activelink image on each edition so on the existing (edition 1) page shows up for edition 1. If you haven't inserted a new edition then the other activelinks show up as broken images. But if at somepoint you insert with the integer now set to 2 the #2 activelink comes alive and the visitor to the #1 site now knows (by the unbroken activelink) that a second edition is now available. To be nice to people that might want to check on older content your edition list should be design so that when more editions are available that your have edition links that you put forward and at least one previous edition so the users can backtrack the editions of your freesite. ie: site using 5 edition links (the numbers in [] would be your edition activelinks) first edition: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] second edition: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] third edition: [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] fourth edition: [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] fifth edition: [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] sixth edition: [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] The edition list 'scrolls' as you have more editions than links the user can still follow the backlinks to get to previous editions. Or you can keep a permanent edition list with at least one forward edition link). You'd probably do it with buckets. This following setup would let you do four editions before having having to add another row for the next five editions: while publishing edition 1-4: [ 1] [ 2] [ 3] [ 4] [ 5] while publisihing edition 5-9: [ 1] [ 2] [ 3] [ 4] [ 5] [ 6] [ 7] [ 8] [ 9] [10] while publisihing edition 10-14: [ 1] [ 2] [ 3] [ 4] [ 5] [ 6] [ 7] [ 8] [ 9] [10] [11] [12] [12] [14] [15] while publisihing edition 15-19: [ 1] [ 2] [ 3] [ 4] [ 5] [ 6] [ 7] [ 8] [ 9] [10] [11] [12] [12] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19]
Re: [freenet-support] doctype and other html tags through fproxy
On 15 Mar 2004 at 14:10, Mika Hirvonen wrote: Michal Charemza wrote: !DOCTYPE, instead of !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC blah blah Is this due to fproxy's anonymity filter? If so, why does it remove/shorten them? Also, I've noticed that the default gateway page does have a full doctype tag, why, if Yes, because you could harvest the visitors' IP addresses by putting the DTD to your own WWW server and waiting for the visitors' browsers to automatically retrieve it. What about inline images? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
