Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics rig - loudspeakers directivity

2014-07-08 Thread Gregorio Garcia Karman
On 08.07.2014, at 00:36, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: > On 07/08/2014 12:20 AM, Gregorio García Karman wrote: > >> How about using loudspeakers with cardioid characteristic in the bass range? >> >> http://www.me-geithain.de/index.php/en/studio/products/active-loudspeaker/rl901k > > I've used that

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics rig - loudspeakers directivity

2014-07-07 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 07/08/2014 12:20 AM, Gregorio García Karman wrote: How about using loudspeakers with cardioid characteristic in the bass range? http://www.me-geithain.de/index.php/en/studio/products/active-loudspeaker/rl901k I've used that speaker a couple of times, and it's fantastic. I sure would like

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics rig - loudspeakers directivity

2014-07-07 Thread Gregorio García Karman
On 08 Jul 2014, at 00:14, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 09:24:14PM +0200, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: >> On 07/01/2014 07:05 PM, Marc Lavallée wrote: >>> >>> Hi Fons. >>> >>> Tue, 1 Jul 2014 16:45:31 +, >>> Fons Adriaensen wrote : >> * If your room acoustics are bad,

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics rig - loudspeakers directivity

2014-07-07 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 09:24:14PM +0200, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: > On 07/01/2014 07:05 PM, Marc Lavallée wrote: > > > >Hi Fons. > > > >Tue, 1 Jul 2014 16:45:31 +, > >Fons Adriaensen wrote : > > >>* If your room acoustics are bad, using directional speakers > >> will not necessarily help,

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics rig - loudspeakers directivity

2014-07-07 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 07/01/2014 07:05 PM, Marc Lavallée wrote: Hi Fons. Tue, 1 Jul 2014 16:45:31 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote : * If your room acoustics are bad, using directional speakers will not necessarily help, they could even make things worse. Unless maybe when you're building a PA system in a s

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics rig - loudspeakers directivity

2014-07-04 Thread Martin Leese
Dave Malham wrote: > We had a rig in our original Music Technology room consisting of four Quad > electrostatics (the original ones!) suspended about a metre and a half > below the sloping wooden ceiling so they were above head height but angled > so they were directed at a central head height poi

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics rig - loudspeakers directivity

2014-07-04 Thread Dave Malham
We had a rig in our original Music Technology room consisting of four Quad electrostatics (the original ones!) suspended about a metre and a half below the sloping wooden ceiling so they were above head height but angled so they were directed at a central head height point. The array worked very we

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics rig - loudspeakers directivity

2014-07-04 Thread Dave Malham
I'll just add my comments to the other excellent replies you've had. Experience of rather more years than I care to remember (of rigs in concert halls) leads me to suggest that amongst the best in terms of imaging (though, unfortunately not sound quality) are the Tannoy Dual Concentric designs. I t

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics rig - loudspeakers directivity

2014-07-02 Thread Martin Leese
Sero wrote: ... > What is the best loudspeaker directivity (polar pattern) for an ambisonics > listening rig? > > I am very confused about this because I cannot find any reference on this > on any pubblication or discussion on the net. The only work I know on this is a study by Dermot Furlong usin

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics rig - loudspeakers directivity

2014-07-02 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2014-07-01, umashankar manthravadi wrote: I have a completely untested theory that if the loudspeakers are mounted flush to room boundaries, reflections will not be an issue. a 1st order system might then work with Omni (in this case hemispherical) speaker directivity. Once you mount anyt

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics rig - loudspeakers directivity

2014-07-01 Thread Marc Lavallée
Hi Fons. Tue, 1 Jul 2014 16:45:31 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote : > On Tue, Jul 01, 2014 at 09:28:47AM -0500, Sero wrote: > > > I am very confused about this because I cannot find any reference > > on this on any pubblication or discussion on the net. > > My feeling is that the larger directivi

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics rig - loudspeakers directivity

2014-07-01 Thread Marc Lavallée
klava.net > > To: sursound@music.vt.edu > > Subject: Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics rig - loudspeakers directivity > > > > Tue, 1 Jul 2014 09:28:47 -0500, Sero wrote : > > > > > Hello All, > > > > Hello Serafino. > > > > > First, thank you v

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics rig - loudspeakers directivity

2014-07-01 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Tue, Jul 01, 2014 at 09:28:47AM -0500, Sero wrote: > I am very confused about this because I cannot find any reference on this > on any pubblication or discussion on the net. > My feeling is that the larger directivity angle the best (up to > omnidirectional) but I am still not sure about this

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics rig - loudspeakers directivity

2014-07-01 Thread umashankar manthravadi
rom: m...@hacklava.net > To: sursound@music.vt.edu > Subject: Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics rig - loudspeakers directivity > > Tue, 1 Jul 2014 09:28:47 -0500, Sero wrote : > > > Hello All, > > Hello Serafino. > > > First, thank you very much for this amazing and very

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics rig - loudspeakers directivity

2014-07-01 Thread Marc Lavallée
Tue, 1 Jul 2014 09:28:47 -0500, Sero wrote : > Hello All, Hello Serafino. > First, thank you very much for this amazing and very useful mailing > list. > > I have a query that might look like it is very newbie but it has > created a big confusion in my head when someone asked that to me > rece

[Sursound] Ambisonics rig - loudspeakers directivity

2014-07-01 Thread Sero
Hello All, First, thank you very much for this amazing and very useful mailing list. I have a query that might look like it is very newbie but it has created a big confusion in my head when someone asked that to me recently. What is the best loudspeaker directivity (polar pattern) for an ambison