Re: [Sursound] Catching the same fly twice (and a curious question)

2012-06-07 Thread Dave Hunt
superfluous is weeded out, creating a sort of hyper-reality. Ciao, Dave Hunt Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 19:37:14 +0200 From: J?rn Nettingsmeier netti...@stackingdwarves.net Subject: Re: [Sursound] Catching the same fly twice (and a curious question) On 05/31/2012 11:38 AM, Richard

Re: [Sursound] Catching the same fly twice (and a curious question)

2012-06-02 Thread Augustine Leudar
Interesting - must be an aspect of the cocktail effect ... On 2 June 2012 04:13, umashankar mantravadi umasha...@hotmail.com wrote: as a location sound mixer, i exploited the visual reinforcement of sound in many situations. if you are recording half a dozen people speaking, and the camera

Re: [Sursound] Catching the same fly twice (and a curious question)

2012-06-01 Thread Augustine Leudar
I once had a piece played atspatial audio concert and some people came to visit. Afterwards one guy came up to me and said - the sound was right there - right there in front of my face ! Was it ambionics ? Im pretty sure he just heard what he expected or hoped to hear - simply because he thought

Re: [Sursound] Catching the same fly twice (and a curious question)

2012-05-31 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
to build a anechoic room :-) - Bo-Erik -Original Message- From: sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of etienne deleflie Sent: den 31 maj 2012 02:28 To: Surround Sound discussion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] Catching the same fly twice

Re: [Sursound] Catching the same fly twice (and a curious question)

2012-05-31 Thread Richard Dobson
On 31/05/2012 01:27, etienne deleflie wrote: .. perception. I wonder if perhaps direction is *not* that important to spatial audio. Ofcourse, it is a part, but is it central? This view leads to the questioning of the value of higher order ambisonics. I don't think people are actually allowed

Re: [Sursound] Catching the same fly twice (and a curious question)

2012-05-31 Thread Dave Malham
On 30/05/2012 21:49, Eric Carmichel wrote: So how good is Ambisonics in reproducing the original auditory 'scene'? If the reconstructed wavefield is close to the original, then what happens when you record the Ambisonics system itself? Will the playback of this recording yield the same

Re: [Sursound] Catching the same fly twice (and a curious question)

2012-05-31 Thread Peter Lennox
Dave said: Here, to any extent, I depart from Gibson. With sufficiently advanced technology there comes a point at which the effort required to suspend disbelief is so small as to be negligible. I was reading a report on a paper a few months ago (I think in New Scientist) where the authors

Re: [Sursound] Catching the same fly twice (and a curious question)

2012-05-31 Thread Dave Malham
On 31 May 2012 12:52, Peter Lennox p.len...@derby.ac.uk wrote: Actually, there is something here, though I do wonder if it is pathological. I've met people who told me that such-and-such a driving game was fantastically realistic. I found it stilted, leaden and profoundly unrealistic. I've

[Sursound] Catching the same fly twice (and a curious question)

2012-05-30 Thread Eric Carmichel
Greetings All, I was intrigued by the post titled 'catching flies' because distance-to information is an area of interest to me. As a few folks out there know, my interest in Ambisonics (aside from music) is its application to hearing research. It is important for safety reasons that a hearing

Re: [Sursound] Catching the same fly twice (and a curious question)

2012-05-30 Thread etienne deleflie
Although I don’t ascribe to a single 'school' of psychology, I do buy into James Gibson's idea that man (and animals) and their environments are inseparable (this is at the heart of Ecological Psychology). I think (or at least hope) that James Gibson's ideas are slowly making their way into