Re: [Sursound] what mics do you use?

2013-05-03 Thread Daniel Courville
Le 2013-04-29 16:07, Eric Benjamin a écrit : Calibration of Soundfield Microphones using the Diffuse-Field Response http://www.aes.org/tmpFiles/elib/20130429/16453.pdf A second-order soundfield microphone with improved polar pattern shape http://www.aes.org/tmpFiles/elib/20130429/16470.pdf The

Re: [Sursound] what mics do you use? - Eric's second order mic

2013-05-02 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
discussion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] what mics do you use? I'd like to expand just a bit on what Dave said. The narrowing of the pattern of microphones at high frequencies is equivalent to the addition of higher order spherical harmonics into the directionality. I recently went through the exercise

Re: [Sursound] what mics do you use?

2013-04-29 Thread Martin Kantola
Eero Aro skrev 29.4.2013 14:28: Discussions about the various miking systems for surround sound and Ambisonics can be found in the Sursound archives. This subject surfaces every now and then. Another one also with Pearl capsules here: http://nu47.com/NU-880F.pdf Yes, I finally got this far...

Re: [Sursound] what mics do you use?

2013-04-29 Thread Mauricio Gargel
Yes Martin! This is in my wish list for sure Hope you are well... Mauricio Sent from my iPhone On Apr 29, 2013, at 10:18 AM, Martin Kantola mar...@nordicaudiolabs.com wrote: Eero Aro skrev 29.4.2013 14:28: Discussions about the various miking systems for surround sound and Ambisonics can

Re: [Sursound] what mics do you use?

2013-04-29 Thread Dave Malham
Ok, you have two problems with large capsules. Firstly there's the standard one of the basic directionality going off. The directional patterns of any capsules degrades as the frequency goes up, due to interference effects, and this happens at lower frequencies with larger capsules. Secondly if

Re: [Sursound] what mics do you use?

2013-04-29 Thread Eric Benjamin
dave.mal...@york.ac.uk To: Surround Sound discussion group sursound@music.vt.edu Sent: Mon, April 29, 2013 9:28:32 AM Subject: Re: [Sursound] what mics do you use? Ok, you have two problems with large capsules. Firstly there's the standard one of the basic directionality going off. The directional

Re: [Sursound] what mics do you use?

2013-04-25 Thread Eric Carmichel
Hello Matthew, I know you already received accurate and detailed responses to your question, but thought I'd add something. The ears, by themselves, are essentially omnidirectional. They're akin to most pressure mics with no rearward venting. The head shapes the sound (ITDs, ILDs... the stuff

Re: [Sursound] what mics do you use?

2013-04-25 Thread Ronald C.F. Antony
Given the subject of mics: Has anyone experience with this here: http://www.nevatonmics.com/pdf/Nevaton_Flyer_centerfold_v2.pdf Looks like since the four capsules are individually wired, it could be used for 1st order HOA recording. Ronald -- next part -- A non-text

Re: [Sursound] what mics do you use?

2013-04-25 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2013-04-25, Ronald C.F. Antony wrote: Looks like since the four capsules are individually wired, it could be used for 1st order HOA recording. 1st order pantophony, I think. The details are somewhat sparse, but I at least get the feeling the four mics are wired into the horizontal plane.

Re: [Sursound] what mics do you use?

2013-04-25 Thread David Pickett
At 15:29 25-04-13, Ronald C.F. Antony wrote: Given the subject of mics: Has anyone experience with this here: http://www.nevatonmics.com/pdf/Nevaton_Flyer_centerfold_v2.pdf Their mics are expensive, though they look nice on the outside and the electronics appear to be good; but the

Re: [Sursound] what mics do you use?

2013-04-24 Thread Peter Lennox
Of Sampo Syreeni Sent: 23 April 2013 20:06 To: Surround Sound discussion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] what mics do you use? On 2013-04-23, Augustine Leudar wrote: I dont even think you can make proper binaural recordings as you wont have shoulder reflections (important elevation cue

Re: [Sursound] what mics do you use?

2013-04-24 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2013-04-24, Peter Lennox wrote: It's only a tiny point, but Sampo, you said ... because our vertical resolution is so bad... Strictly, our perception in the vertical plane isn't the same as in elevation, except for the special case where the head is kept still, not tilted. Fully granted.

Re: [Sursound] what mics do you use?

2013-04-24 Thread Augustine Leudar
I had a really nice diagram that showed the hearing accuracy (MAAs etc) of different positions in the azimuth and elevation but I cant find it . If I remember rightly its generally true that horizontal localisation is better than vetrtical with a couple of exceptions - If I remember rightly

Re: [Sursound] what mics do you use?

2013-04-24 Thread Matthew Palmer
many thanks to many people. - matt -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20130424/e04041f2/attachment.html ___ Sursound mailing list

Re: [Sursound] what mics do you use?

2013-04-24 Thread John Leonard
I think he missed the Soundfield ST450 as well, didn't he?: http://www.soundfield.com/products/st450.php Regards, John (Happy ST450 and TetraMic User) On 24 Apr 2013, at 21:41, Martin Leese martin.le...@stanfordalumni.org wrote: Eric missed only the Russian made Octava

[Sursound] what mics do you use?

2013-04-23 Thread Matthew Palmer
Can you make ambisonic mixes with this: 3diosound.com? It's much cheaper than http://www.core-sound.com/TetraMic/1.php. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20130423/9ced216d/attachment.html

Re: [Sursound] what mics do you use?

2013-04-23 Thread Augustine Leudar
To: sursound@music.vt.edu Sent: Tue, April 23, 2013 11:02:28 AM Subject: [Sursound] what mics do you use? Can you make ambisonic mixes with this: 3diosound.com? It's much cheaper than http://www.core-sound.com/TetraMic/1.php. -- next part -- An HTML attachment

Re: [Sursound] what mics do you use?

2013-04-23 Thread Matthew Palmer
recordings with a binaural microphone. At least not directly. Eric Benjamin - Original Message From: Matthew Palmer palme...@mymail.vcu.edu To: sursound@music.vt.edu Sent: Tue, April 23, 2013 11:02:28 AM Subject: [Sursound] what mics do you use? Can you make ambisonic

Re: [Sursound] what mics do you use?

2013-04-23 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2013-04-23, Augustine Leudar wrote: I dont even think you can make proper binaural recordings as you wont have shoulder reflections (important elevation cue) or as Eric has already mentioned, the head, which will affect the ILDs and ITDs. Under heavy assumptions you can, because our

Re: [Sursound] what mics do you use?

2013-04-23 Thread Eric Benjamin
On 23 April 2013 21:05, Matthew Palmer palme...@mymail.vcu.edu wrote: Thanks for the heads-up. Which mics do you use? My 2 cents worth. For binaural recording I have used the Bruel and Kjaer type 4101 setup: http://www.bksv.com/products/transducers/acoustic/binaural-headsets/4101.aspx

Re: [Sursound] what mics do you use?

2013-04-23 Thread Eric Benjamin
On 23 April 2013 21:05, Matthew Palmer palme...@mymail.vcu.edu wrote: Thanks for the heads-up. Which mics do you use? Another 2 cents worth. For Ambisonic recording there are a few alternatives. Soundfield research has several models, mostly based on the original Calrec design.